Please Help... NEED 100 VOTES

[DookieMan]

Ok... I need your help, guys...

My friend claims that Journey is a hair band. As I'm sure we all know, that is completely wrong. So, please vote to try and convince him that it's not even close.

[Alright_Computer]

I have a question.

Does your friend post on these forums?

If so, is his username here leftover_crack?

[MrFruitLord]

I support this cause.

[back_blows]

A poll is supposed to convince this friend of yours? I also doubt you'll find your 100 votes from the HoR forums.

[Soratar]

I was tempted to say "yes" just to bug you.

[DookieMan]

A poll is supposed to convince this friend of yours? I also doubt you'll find your 100 votes from the HoR forums.

I think I could. I already have 7 after a couple minutes. All people have to do is vote.

Thanks guys.

No, he's not on the forums.

[franticfish]

Eh, why not? I'll vote no.

[Teh_Jakester]

Get a new friend; yours is broken.

[Evilbottom]

Oh come on, I was expecting someone else to have voted yes for the lulz!

[MovieFreak921]

Who the hell voted yes?

[DookieMan]

:[ Who voted yes?

[Mystlyfe77]

:[ Who voted yes?

Evilbottom.

And Journey is closer to hair than RATM is to punk.

[Lone Bulldogs]

No chance, Journey is not a hair band and RATM is not punk.

[Mega-Tallica]

You're friend is a dumbass. Tell him I said that.

[OGGhostguy]

Journey is a hair band when Van Halen is death metal.

[cherokeesam]

Journey is arena rock. Rooted in the 70s (even though, of course, they were still popular in the 80s hair era.)

The only "hair bands" that were active in the 70s were Van Halen and Aerosmith, whose look and sound gave rise to hair's LA sound of the 80s.

Your friend is obviously confused because Journey secretly enacted a federal law that required ALL hair bands of the 80s to release a sappy power ballad as their second career single.

[Teh_Jakester]

The only "hair bands" that were active in the 70s were Van Halen and Aerosmith, whose look and sound gave rise to hair's LA sound of the 80s.

Wait, what. They're both Hard Rock bands.

[DookieMan]

Van Halen and Aerosmith are both not hair bands either.

[cherokeesam]

Van Halen and Aerosmith are both not hair bands either.

I've had that argument elsewhere on HoR long ago (too lazy to look up the link).

But there's no way anybody can look at VH and Aerosmith in the mid-late 70s and NOT see the beginnings of the Hair Revolution, long before Crue and Poison and co. hit the LA scene.

Big hair: check
headbands: check
glitter and spandex uniforms modeled after the glam rockers: check
hell, even makeup: check (occasionally)
hedonism as the religion of the day: check
songs about hot chicks, fast cars, partying all night: check
required power ballads: check
the sound: identical

Van Halen and Aerosmith invented Hair in the 70s, period. Crue and Poison and Cinderella and the rest took their cues directly from Diamond Dave, Edward, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, and even Joey Kramer.

[Teh_Jakester]

the sound: identical

Um, no. This couldn't be farther from truth.

[Tank9088]

Make the OP look stupid, vote Yes!

[cherokeesam]

Follow-up question:

Was the following video filmed in 1979, or 1984?

Van Halen -- Dance the Night Away (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MEvpreZcAfI)

1977, or 1987?:

Aerosmith -- Back in the Saddle (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rf0Vd7dmsJI&feature=related)

[Teh_Jakester]

Music videos have nothing to do with a band's genre.

[cherokeesam]

Music videos have nothing to do with a band's genre.

Just answer the question.

Do you think those videos, made in the 70s, could just as well fit in the 80s hair units?

Damn straight they could. That's where hair got their influence, their look, their sound.

[Teh_Jakester]

Black Sabbath were influenced by Blues bands! They can't be Blues! THEY'RE ALL METAL BANDS

[afterstasis]

aerosmith and van halen's glory days were both undoubtedly a huge influence on hair metal, but they fit much better in the hard rock category.

[timmay9]

Yeah, I would say Van Halen and Aerosmith HEAVILY influenced the entire hair scene, but in no way were they a part of it.

[DookieMan]

I've had that argument elsewhere on HoR long ago (too lazy to look up the link).

But there's no way anybody can look at VH and Aerosmith in the mid-late 70s and NOT see the beginnings of the Hair Revolution, long before Crue and Poison and co. hit the LA scene.

Big hair: check
headbands: check
glitter and spandex uniforms modeled after the glam rockers: check
hell, even makeup: check (occasionally)
hedonism as the religion of the day: check
songs about hot chicks, fast cars, partying all night: check
required power ballads: check
the sound: identical

Van Halen and Aerosmith invented Hair in the 70s, period. Crue and Poison and Cinderella and the rest took their cues directly from Diamond Dave, Edward, Steven Tyler, Joe Perry, and even Joey Kramer.
You make good points that I agree with, but the sound is definitely not identical. The sound is probably what sets them mainly apart.

Regardless, as much as Aerosmith and Van Halen might be involved, Journey has absolutely nothing to do with it.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Journey Hair = No.

:D

[WhiffleBallTony]

Get a new friend; yours is broken.

Or he may just need new batteries.

[ArmsAreLoud]

They're Arena Rock, but I'm going to vote yes because I know how much it will bug you.

Also, @cherokeesam: Mother Freakin' Love Bone dressed like the glam bands. I don't think anyone would be able to put them in the hair genre.

[Jixzer]

I was tempted to say "yes" just to bug you.

I voted yes just to bug him.

[Rockbandfan23467]

The versions of Van Halen and Aerosmith that were around in the 70's were not hair, but they did have a very large influence on Hair.

However, the 80's version of Aerosmith (IE, after Run-DMC covered Walk This Way) might be Hair, as well as Van Hagar.

[ArmsAreLoud]

80's Aerosmith was incredibly hair. "Angel" is about as hair as "Livin' On a Prayer".

[Rockbandfan23467]

Exactly!

I wonder if AxlVanHagar is around for the fun in here....

[cherokeesam]

the 80's version of Aerosmith (IE, after Run-DMC covered Walk This Way) might be Hair, as well as Van Hagar.


80's Aerosmith was incredibly hair. "Angel" is about as hair as "Livin' On a Prayer".

Exactly to RBF's "exactly."

Anyone who says Aerosmith and Van Halen were NOT hair clearly never experienced the 80s.

Panama
Hot for Teacher
I'll Wait
Jump
When It's Love
Best of Both Worlds
Why Can't This Be Love
Finish What Ya Started
Dude Looks Like a Lady
Love In An Elevator
Rag Doll
Angel


^hair, hair, and even more hair. In every sense of the genre.

[OGGhostguy]

I used to describe Van Halen to folks who had never experienced them as the ultimate hair band. I mean come on...Roth's appearance circa jump? Nuff' said.

[DookieMan]

Only 40 more...

[Teh_Jakester]

Anyone who says Aerosmith and Van Halen were NOT hair clearly never experienced the 80s.
song list
^hair, hair, and even more hair. In every sense of the genre.

None of those songs sound the least bit like Glam Metal.

[DookieMan]

Just need 38 more...

[tridentgum0]

Do you really need to go to 100? 64 is more than enough for "no'' to win even if everyone else votes ''yes''.

[Rockbandfan23467]

None of those songs sound the least bit like Glam Metal.

Yes, they do sound like Hair/Glam.

[Teh_Jakester]

Yes, they do sound like Hair/Glam.

No, they don't. They never have, and they never will.

[rowtheboat]

I voted yes HAHAHAHAHA

[DookieMan]

I voted yes HAHAHAHAHA

Hilarious...

[Cpt. Overkill]

Hilarious...

He thinks Avenged Sevenfold is great. You need to excuse the guy.

[cherokeesam]

None of those songs sound the least bit like Glam Metal.

I get it....instead of actually SUPPORTING your argument with facts, your "strategy" is simply to CONTRADICT everything I write.

Contradiction is not the same thing as argument, son.

If you seriously don't believe those 80s tracks from VH and Aerosmith belong in the same genre as anything by Crue, Poison, Ratt, Cinderella, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister or any of the other hair bands, PLEASE give me YOUR definition of what constitutes "hair metal," "glam metal," or whatever euphemism you choose to use. And then *try* to tell me how your definition differs *in any way* from the songs I listed above.

[Teh_Jakester]

If you seriously don't believe those 80s tracks from VH and Aerosmith belong in the same genre as anything by Crue, Poison, Ratt, Cinderella, Quiet Riot, Twisted Sister or any of the other hair bands, PLEASE give me YOUR definition of what constitutes "hair metal," "glam metal," or whatever euphemism you choose to use. And then *try* to tell me how your definition differs *in any way* from the songs I listed above.

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0dVF9LoZw) is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdDxz2bkfhE) what (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WhV5gWjJE) Glam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-Pg4r33bM) Metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1knO1Ip9oEg) is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWA28E0r_1c).

Honestly, Aerosmith and Van Halen do not sound anything like those songs. They sound more like Blue Oyster Cult (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OBs6S1lW_Q) or Guns N' Roses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7SYtuHUP3s).

[DookieMan]

Well, whether Aerosmith and Van Halen are glam or not, I think we can all agree that Journey is not.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Help him!

[cherokeesam]

This (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY0dVF9LoZw) is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GdDxz2bkfhE) what (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6WhV5gWjJE) Glam (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ne-Pg4r33bM) Metal (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1knO1Ip9oEg) is (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWA28E0r_1c).

Honestly, Aerosmith and Van Halen do not sound anything like those songs. They sound more like Blue Oyster Cult (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0OBs6S1lW_Q) or Guns N' Roses (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x7SYtuHUP3s).

BOC and GNR....????:confused: what the....???

[packerfan8675309]

Always willing to support a cause, even if it is a trivial matter between friends.

[Teh_Jakester]

BOC and GNR....????:confused: what the....???

The song structure, I mean, and mostly early BOC.

[Kasil]

Journey's obviously a hair band. Just like Boston and Kansas.

[NormanCoxwell]

No. Their singer's currently asian. There's no asian hair bands. That's just ridiculous.

[cherokeesam]

No. Their singer's currently asian. There's no asian hair bands. That's just ridiculous.

...What about Sex Machineguns and Bathtub Sh*tter....?

[polishdog90]

Journey's obviously a hair band. Just like Boston and Kansas.

Is this sarcasm?

[DookieMan]

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it's sarcasm, because those three bands are often compared, and are obviously not hair.

[Kasil]

Is this sarcasm?

What do you think?

[Zidane]

Hair? Like put lipstick on and use 2 cans of hairspray hair?

[Rockbandfan23467]

He didn't get 100 votes, so I'm helping him.

[Squaretriangles]

Two votes to go....


This is gonna be close.

[Blinkerz]

Who cares? Journey sucks either way.

[Zebracakes]

Slayer is the ultimate hair band, along with Journey!!

lol jk helping your cause man, 5 more to go =P

[guitarjacked]

Who cares? Journey sucks either way.

In your opinion. And so do all the lame bands you like too. Go and troll on another website.

Journey are not hair. Poison and Motley Crue are the best examples of hair and Journey are in no way like these bands.

[Rockbandfan23467]

98 votes for no, so I guess he's close enough.

[BrianExplosion]

I'm the 100th vote!! What do I win?!

[Evilbottom]

I'm the 100th vote!! What do I win?!

You win the satisfaction of knowing that you were the 100th vote