Iron Maiden Or Megadeth

[Blazez]

Which is Better

[Oscar-Rio]

apples and oranges

[Mega-Tallica]

I'll take both please.:D

[whypick1]

Maiden tries WAYYYY too hard to be epic and I hate Dickinson's voice.

Megadeth all the way.

[MrFruitLord]

Maiden is epic.

Megadeth is too.

Fixed. Also pointless thread is pointless, especially since the bands have almost nothing to do with each other.

[Skittles]

Judas Priest

[afterstasis]

i definitely prefer maiden, though i do dig some megadeth here and there.

[Mystlyfe77]

Paramore.

[tridentgum0]

brokeNCYDE

[Xander730]

i say tie.... Both are really good

[dabears116]

The Bear's Shufflin' Crew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhYwYJRlS8A)

[Alright_Computer]

brokeNMORE

Or paraNCYDE. You pick.

[back_blows]

brokeNMORE

Or paraNCYDE. You pick.

brokeNMore sounds more scenish. Like they've had their heart broken, but more often.

[Mystlyfe77]

i say tie.... Both are really good

YOU MUST PlCK ONE!!!!!!

[Alright_Computer]

brokeNMore sounds more scenish. Like they've had their heart broken, but more often.

True, but paraNCYDE sounds sort of like "parasite", which could also be pretty scene-ish.

[Stones_Clash]

Judas Priest

this. but after priest, these are my next favorite metal bands. very hard to decide, but ill go with megadeth here.

[Oscar-Rio]

YOU MUST PlCK ONE!!!!!!

sorry to go off topic, but staring at your avatar while listening to those stupid Dos Equis TV commercials cracks me up.

[thedoorsdk]

Judas Priest

Yep.
I think Maiden and Megadeth are the two most over-hyped bands of their respective genres.
Frankly I don't find either of them to be very interesting at all.
BUT if I had to pick I'd go with Maiden because they tend to be a tad more humorous/epic.

[dabears116]

sorry to go off topic, but staring at your avatar while listening to those stupid Dos Equis TV commercials cracks me up.
I don't drink often... BUT WHEN I DO... I make it Dos Equis.

5406

[a21schizoidman]

The Bear's Shufflin' Crew (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vhYwYJRlS8A)

HEY!!!


i really do like that song (but i'm also a Bears fanboy) in fact, look at what i own (http://c3.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/18/l_4b3b122e524414fc5ea97ce8c5cb6b96.jpg)

[Mystlyfe77]

sorry to go off topic, but staring at your avatar while listening to those stupid Dos Equis TV commercials cracks me up.

You mean Bill Clinton? (http://whereamiwearing.com/2009/08/06/daily-show-names-bill-clinton-as-the-most-interesting-man-in-the-world/)

[ArmsAreLoud]

Judas Priest

Took the words right out of my mouth.

And really, there isn't any point in comparing a NWOBHM band to a Thrash band.

[a21schizoidman]

Took the words right out of my mouth.


Meat Loaf

[Mystlyfe77]

And really, there isn't any point in comparing a NWOBHM band to a Thrash band.

Really? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sxvA3XzO_A)

[dabears116]

Really? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sxvA3XzO_A)Hardcore punk influenced version is better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLMD-wmirY).

Anyways, NWOBHM and thrash? (Megadeth was a lot more NWOBHM influenced than most thrash bands btw)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mE--ehEUg5I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bMEf7oF0iS0

[Mystlyfe77]

Hardcore punk influenced version is better (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZLMD-wmirY).

While I do think the Reign in Blood version is overall better (particularly on vocals), there are aspects I definitely enjoy about the demo version more (particularly the melodic passage before the solo). The production value on the Reign in Blood version also helps, though I almost prefer the slower tempo on the demo version.

I posted the demo version because you can really hear the NWOBHM in it though.

Though I could have also posted Crionics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1hUraqRVLzc).

[dabears116]

Haunting the Chapel isn't a demo -_-

[Mystlyfe77]

Haunting the Chapel isn't a demo -_-

I know. But "Aggressive Perfector" is only a bonus track, that version originally came from one of their demos.

[dabears116]

k **** me.

Anyways, Show No Mercy is a great example of NWOBHM influenced thrash.

[Onslaught_fei]

Correct answer is: MegaMaiden

[Evilbottom]

I enjoy both, although I would have to say I prefer Megadeth. Judas Priest, despite not being asked about, would probably be second. Maiden go third. 'tallica are about....78th

[King_Nuthin]

Gotta go with Maiden, Megadeth is just a bit too uneven over their career for me.

[irockprettyhard]

possibly ive seen 2 much hangar 18 i know too much

[dabears116]

Gotta go with Maiden, Megadeth is just a bit too uneven over their career for me.And Maiden was steady throughout?

[King_Nuthin]

And Maiden was steady throughout?
They have certainly had some low points but the classic lineup from Piece of Mind through Seventh Son produced 4 very good to great albums plus one of the best live albums ever recorded which alone is enough to give them the edge over Megadeth in my book. Throw in Number of the Beast which is also great along with the two Di'Anno albums and you've got 8 very good to great albums in a row.

Yes, they fell off sharply when Adrian left and the Blaze years were like the dark ages (The Clansman is a great tune though). Since Adrian and Bruce returned they are right back in top form. Of course I prefer the classic stuff but I can't even really say I've enjoyed much of anything Megadeth has put out since Countdown to Extinction.

[DrewLee865]

Iron Maiden. I like all their albums but the 2 Blaze ones.

[gmarsh]

BrokeNCYDE

But anyway, Maiden No Contest.

[WhiffleBallTony]

Maiden tries WAYYYY too hard to be epic and I hate Dickinson's voice.

Epic
ep⋅ic /ˈɛpɪk/ [ep-ik]
–noun
6. Iron Maiden

[NormanCoxwell]

Im gonna go with Maiden.

[Snitsky]

Megadeth is just easier to listen to for the most part imo

Iron maiden does have a good ammount of good music , but the **** where Bruce Dickinson isn't the singer is just unbearable imo , plus alot of their musics production just sounds old and like it needs remastering , add to that that Iron maiden likes to be kinda stupid about a certain 3 digit number and that just annoys me

Mostly I just think Megadeths best songs are more impressive than Iron maidens best songs , although Megadeths worst songs are way worse than Iron maidens worst songs

So yeah Megadeth > Iron maiden imo

I'm going to go ahead and drag other classic metal bands into this like other people have

Usually people compare Metallica & Megadeth and then Iron maiden & Judas priest

Imo its :
Metallica > Megadeth
Judas priest > Iron Maiden

Metallica > Megadeth > Judas priest > Iron maiden

I could drag other classic metal bands into this but I'm just going to keep it down to those 4 for now

[JerryBrudos]

Maiden easily, megadeth had 4 extremely good albums...maiden had about 10. If I were to compare my favorite albums by each band Killers beats Killing is my business by a long shot. That being said Megadeth is still my favorite of the big 4.

[Mystlyfe77]

Iron maiden does have a good ammount of good music , but the **** where Bruce Dickinson isn't the singer is just unbearable imo , plus alot of their musics production just sounds old and like it needs remastering , add to that that Iron maiden likes to be kinda stupid about a certain 3 digit number and that just annoys me


Every time you post, you just make me respect your opinion less and less. Are you seriously complaining about them having a song called "The Number of the Beast" that uses 666 in it? Seriously?

Seriously?

[ryan12147]

This one is extremely hard but I'll say Megadeth because I don't want to say it's a tie.

[rowtheboat]

Both

[gmarsh]

The Following Statement is fail..




Megadeth is just easier to listen to for the most part imo

Iron maiden does have a good ammount of good music , but the **** where Bruce Dickinson isn't the singer is just unbearable imo , plus alot of their musics production just sounds old and like it needs remastering , add to that that Iron maiden likes to be kinda stupid about a certain 3 digit number and that just annoys me

Mostly I just think Megadeths best songs are more impressive than Iron maidens best songs , although Megadeths worst songs are way worse than Iron maidens worst songs

So yeah Megadeth > Iron maiden imo

Anyway
Metallica > Megadeth
Iron Maiden > Judas Priest(I love em both though)

Iron Maiden > Judas Priest > Metallica > Megadeth

[MrFruitLord]

Metallica > Megadeth

Disgusting.

[Teh_Jakester]

Maiden and Megadeth, odd combination. I like more Megadeth songs, so I'll go with them. If Paul Di'Anno hadn't been kicked out out Maiden, they'd be my favourite band ever, though.


Metallica > Megadeth > Judas priest > Iron maiden

wat
Megadeth > Iron Maiden > Black Sabbath > Judas Priest > Anthrax > Slayer > Metallica.
wow so much classic

[Bub]

Maiden.

[DrewLee865]

Iron Maiden > All Metal bands. And all other Thrash bands > Metallica.

[Quinarvy]

Maiden is made of Higgs boson particles....so, Maiden.

[Knucklesdude]

After some intensive thinking, much anguish, and two dead kittens, my decision is...


both.

[Zidane]

Maiden by miles. Have you ever seen them in concert? Amazing.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

Maiden

[Nitz13]

Iron Maiden > All Metal bands. And all other Thrash bands > Metallica.
This! I love all Maiden whether its Paul, Bruce or Blaze.

I like Megadeth, but they just don't compare to the Epicness that is Maiden.

[Cokerdoodle]

Iron maiden!!!!

[TeamAliceFTW]

Personally, Iron Maiden. But this isn't a very good thread. The two are pretty different styles of metal. Maiden should be compared with like, Judas Priest or Dio. Megadeth with Metalica, Slayer, or some other thrash metal band.

[FlameSama1]

Maiden, and if you say Megadeth you should be beaten with a pool cue >_>

[dabears116]

Personally, Iron Maiden. But this isn't a very good thread. The two are pretty different styles of metal. Maiden should be compared with like, Judas Priest or Dio. Megadeth with Metalica, Slayer, or some other thrash metal band.To be honest Megadeth is about as different from Slayer as they are from Megadeth. Megadeth isn't standard thrash really, and the majority of stuff on Rust In Peace and So Far So Good isn't even thrash at all.

[HeavyMetalKing]

Maiden, definitely. They were the first metal band I ever really got into, and in my opinion they're just more fun to listen to overall. Don't get me wrong, I like both bands, but I enjoy Maiden more. Plus, like someone else said, Maiden is beyond epic in concert.

[Teh_Jakester]

Maiden, and if you say Megadeth you should be beaten with a pool cue >_>

Not really. Megadeth are pretty much the epitome of Metal.
They have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hUqu9mUS_k) the riffs. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3QK9E2DMoI)
They have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OJBPnMJbuw) the solos. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m8ZRkgNYx4E)
They have (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GrbJi4MMnh0) the lyrics. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QRxTXb3L_L0)

Not to say iron Maiden are bad, but Megadeth are just amazing.

[dabears116]

Not really. Megadeth are pretty much the epitome of Metal.
Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[Teh_Jakester]

Noooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

Then what band iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiis

[a_bull_on_parade]

I'm going to say Megadeth here.........that was something I never thought I'd say.

[dabears116]

Then what band iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiis
Every metal band you've never heard of.

No band is the epitome of metal, all can tell you are some of what I find the greatest metal bands I've heard: Death, Hellhammer, !T.O.O.H.!, Atheist, Mayhem, Autopsy...

[Teh_Jakester]

Every metal band you've never heard of.

It's obvious that there's always going to be one band better than all bands in the same genre, but they're so obscure that no one's heard of them.
How about, Megadeth are the epitome of Metal that I can find at my local record store?

[Mystlyfe77]

It's obvious that there's always going to be one band better than all bands in the same genre, but they're so obscure that no one's heard of them.
How about, Megadeth are the epitome of Metal that I can find at my local record store?

That's still not true.

[Soror_YZBL]

Then what band iiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii iiiiiis

Winger.

[Teh_Jakester]

That's still not true.

My local record store only sells the most obvious of Metal bands.


Winger.

Good catch. Reb Beach and Kip Winger, great guys.

[back_blows]

Winger.

Miles Away redefined metal.

[a_bull_on_parade]

Miles Away redefined metal.

Dragonforce

[DrewLee865]

Megadeth is the epitome of metal? I'm pretty sure the greatest metal band ever would at least have a decent singer.

[Evilbottom]

Megadeth is the epitome of metal? I'm pretty sure the greatest metal band ever would at least have a decent singer.

Mustaine is a better singer than that of metallica/slayer/anthrax/judas priest.

Though not a better singer than Bruce Dickinson

[Mystlyfe77]

Mustaine is a better singer than that of metallica/slayer/anthrax/judas priest.

Though not a better singer than Bruce Dickinson

Mustaine is definitely not better than Rob Halford, Joey Belladonna, 80s Araya, or 80s Hetfield. His voice has held up to the years better than his thrash peers, but is still grating as hell. I love Megadeth, but certainly not for Mustaine's vocals. They grow on you, but they're never pleasant sounding.

[Evilbottom]

I dunno why but I had instant love for Mustaine's vocals. I don't know why everyone hates them

[Mystlyfe77]

I dunno why but I had instant love for Mustaine's vocals. I don't know why everyone hates them

They're okay and thrashy when he's talking, but when he "sings" it's just way too nasal.

[Teh_Jakester]

Megadeth is the epitome of metal? I'm pretty sure the greatest metal band ever would at least have a decent singer.

I'd rather listen to an acapella Mustaine album than an acapella Dickenson album.


80s Hammett.

Hammett wat
If you mean Hetfield, his vocals have always sucked terribly.

[DrewLee865]

Vocals on Kill Em All were pretty good.

[Mystlyfe77]

I'd rather listen to an acapella Mustaine album than an acapella Dickenson album.

...are you deaf?



Hammett wat
If you mean Hetfield, his vocals have always sucked terribly.

Woops, I did mean Hetfield. And no, they did not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nCy5CITc8). And if you disagree, ask yourself this, why was Hetfield the vocalist for Metallica and not Mustaine? Why did Mustaine look for a vocalist to front Megadeth, and only began doing it himself once he couldn't find one up to his standards?

[Teh_Jakester]

...are you deaf?

Dickinson, even in his prime, is/was annoying to listen to for more than a few songs. He feels the need to falsetto all day for no good reason.


Woops, I did mean Hetfield. And no, they did not (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C4nCy5CITc8).

Way to pick their worst song that wasn't off The Black Album or Death Magnetic. Stupid lyrics, and a guitar part that goes nowhere. Whee. The Mechanix is a better song all around; vocals included.


And if you disagree, ask yourself this, why was Hetfield the vocalist for Metallica and not Mustaine?

Why did they hire Kirk Hammett as a guitarist? Because they like to suck.


Why did Mustaine look for a vocalist to front Megadeth, and only began doing it himself once he couldn't find one up to his standards?

Some people are just over-critical of themselves. Megadeth wouldn't be nearly as awesome without Mustaine on vocals.

[Mystlyfe77]

Dickinson, even in his prime, is/was annoying to listen to for more than a few songs. He feels the need to falsetto all day for no good reason.

Yeah, that has obviously nothing to do with the style of music that Maiden plays. Just Dickinson's desire to screw everything up so he can sign higher. :rolleyes:


Way to pick their worst song that wasn't off The Black Album or Death Magnetic. Stupid lyrics, and a guitar part that goes nowhere. Whee. The Mechanix is a better song all around; vocals included.

You're kidding, right? "The Four Horsemen" is easily one of, if not the, best Metallica songs. Are you seriously suggesting that not only their classic material, but stuff off of Load, Reload, and St. Anger is better than it?



Why did they hire Kirk Hammett as a guitarist? Because they like to suck.

That's totally why they did that! I FORGOT! DUH!



Some people are just over-critical of themselves. Megadeth wouldn't be nearly as awesome with Mustaine on vocals.

Even though I know you meant something other than what you typed, this is the only correct part of your post. Megadeth isn't nearly as awesome as they could have been because Mustaine is on vocals.

[DrewLee865]

The Four Horsemen > Mechanix

[Knucklesdude]

Dave Mustaine's vocals are very solid today. Earlier on, I agree, he was not as great of a vocalist. But the raw sound to his vocals really fit the thrash style of the music (imo).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lwhceqMGOr4

I also agree Bruce Dickinson is a better vocalist, but overall Dave Mustaine is much more talented. His compositions never cease to amaze me and
"I like to play the stuff that makes you say, ‘How does he do that and sing?' "

[Zidane]

The Four Horsemen > Mechanix

True words, The Four Horsemen is an upgrade from Mechanix. Mechanix is just a stupid song at the end of the day.

Out of all the singers in the Thrash movement, Mustaine had the most annoying vocals, still does too. It may be one of the reasons his songs rarely do anything for me. (I listened to Psychotron again today, after learning it was written about a Marvel super hero and cringed at the song.)

[FastSolo.]

brokeNCYDE
Seconded

[DrewLee865]

True words, The Four Horsemen is an upgrade from Mechanix. Mechanix is just a stupid song at the end of the day.

Out of all the singers in the Thrash movement, Mustaine had the most annoying vocals, still does too. It may be one of the reasons his songs rarely do anything for me. (I listened to Psychotron again today, after learning it was written about a Marvel super hero and cringed at the song.)However, Megadeth > Metallica.

[Zidane]

However, Megadeth > Metallica.

I had a conversation with someone about this a while back-let's agree on this, "To each their own."

[Stones_Clash]

basically, my guideline for metal is that as long as the guy is trying to SING then im fine with it. mustaines vocals arent great, but thrash vocals arent great in general, at least compared to halfords or dickinsons anyway. however, at least hes not screaming/growling incomprehensibly, so im fine with it, it fits the music without degrading it.

[DrewLee865]

I prefer Megadeth to Metallica but Metallica's first couple albums were on par or better than Megadeth's first 3 albums.

[dabears116]

basically, my guideline for metal is that as long as the guy is trying to SING then im fine with it. mustaines vocals arent great, but thrash vocals arent great in general, at least compared to halfords or dickinsons anyway. however, at least hes not screaming/growling incomprehensibly, so im fine with it, it fits the music without degrading it.You obviously don't listen to much metal. Vocals that are not sung in a soaring style aren't good? You're leaving out way too much metal. Growling, screaming, shouting, snarling; some can be way better. Vocals don't need to be clean seen as great, for example: The Swarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHUNEYW37M) by At The Gates contains vocals in my opinion which hold strong emotion (in fact the whole song does).


I prefer Megadeth to Metallica but Metallica's first couple albums were on par or better than Megadeth's first 3 albums.I really can only say Metallica's first two albums were decent, although over time even those have lost their enjoyment with me. Even for Megadeth, Rust In Peace and Peace Sells honestly only are the Megadeth albums that I like (the other two 80s ones are decent only)

[DrewLee865]

You obviously don't listen to much metal. Vocals that are not sung in a soaring style aren't good? You're leaving out way too much metal. Growling, screaming, shouting, snarling; some can be way better. Vocals don't need to be clean seen as great, for example: The Swarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHUNEYW37M) by At The Gates contains vocals in my opinion which hold strong emotion (in fact the whole song does).

Agreed. Screaming, growling, snarling, etc. can have just as much emotion as clean singing.

[Stones_Clash]

You obviously don't listen to much metal. Vocals that are not sung in a soaring style aren't good? You're leaving out way too much metal. Growling, screaming, shouting, snarling; some can be way better. Vocals don't need to be clean seen as great, for example: The Swarm (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=USHUNEYW37M) by At The Gates contains vocals in my opinion which hold strong emotion (in fact the whole song does).

it distracts from the music in my opinion. theres little metal that musically i cant enjoy, but i expect some coherence from the vocals, its just personal taste. in that at the gates song for instance, musically its great, but i find it hard to concentrate on that because the vocals overpower the music. you can be musically aggressive with clean vocals, and my preference is that i want the singing to feel like its coming from a human being, not a tiger. to each their own though.

[Soja]

The two aren't even comparable.

Both were immensely influential in their own arenas, but you know what inspired Mustaine?

The Killers album by Iron Maiden.

Thus, Maiden > Megadeth because without Maiden there would be no Megadeth.

[dabears116]

The two aren't even comparable.

Both were immensely influential in their own arenas, but you know what inspired Mustaine?

The Killers album by Iron Maiden.

Thus, Maiden > Megadeth because without Maiden there would be no Megadeth.Look at it objectively. It shouldn't come down to who influenced who. Also, I wouldn't ever call Megadeth immensely influential, ever.

[Zidane]

Look at it objectively. It shouldn't come down to who influenced who. Also, I wouldn't ever call Megadeth immensely influential, ever.

I would. In fact I would tie them with Judas Priest behind Black Sabbath as the most influential Metal band ever.

[dabears116]

I would. In fact I would tie them with Judas Priest behind Black Sabbath as the most influential Metal band ever.What? Do you hear what you're saying? Hell Linkin Park is more influential than Megadeth. And don't tell me it's you're opinion, because it's not up to you to decide who influenced who.

[Knucklesdude]

What? Do you hear what you're saying? Hell Linkin Park is more influential than Megadeth. And don't tell me it's you're opinion, because it's not up to you to decide who influenced who.

Unless he's a musician. And plenty of bands have been influenced by Megadeth.

But, a band's greatness isn't measured by their influence, or at least it shouldn't be.

[Zidane]

I'm sorry, I thought you put Iron Maiden...

But that said, I do believe that Megadeth is immensely influential in the metal community.

[dabears116]

Unless he's a musician. And plenty of bands have been influenced by Megadeth. That doesn't make a band (immensely) influential, my friends are in a band inspired by Stone Temple Pilots (which essentially were a rip off of some Seattle grunge bands), does that make them influential?.

Immensely influential bands define genres, Iron Butterfly, Venom, Chuck Berry, Black Sabbath, The Stooges, Hellhammer; they are immensely influential.

[Knucklesdude]

That doesn't make a band (immensely) influential, my friends are in a band inspired by Stone Temple Pilots (which essentially were a rip off of some Seattle grunge bands), does that make them influential?

Oh, we're talking immensely influential?

Because your friends were inspired does make the band influential. You're referring to a 'standard of influence' which doesn't seem quite clear. It doesn't seem commonsensical to me to say a band is influential if only they are genre-defining.

But hey, what's the "founding father of thrash metal" anyway?

[dabears116]

Oh, we're talking immensely influential?

Because your friends were inspired does make the band influential. You're referring to a 'standard of influence' which doesn't seem quite clear. It doesn't seem commonsensical to me to say a band is influential if only they are genre-defining.I don't mean influential in terms of having influenced a band, I mean influential in terms of have a respectable amount of influence.


But hey, what's the "godfather of thrash metal" anyway?Godfather of thrash? Well Venom would be the grandfather of thrash, although whether or not they were thrash is arguable. Many hardcore punk bands and the band Motorhead (who could be considered the direct originator to thrash [besides earlier songs like Highway Star and Stone Cold Crazy]) are the predecessors. The first thrash band to perform thrash music that I am aware of is Overkill, closely followed by Exodus and Metallica (I could be wrong though). Slayer was a landmark in thrash with their 1984 EP Haunting The Chapel, adding a new level of aggression. That, in addition Hellhammer's 1983 demos (and likely others that I am not aware of) influenced proto-death metal bands Death, Possessed, and Necrophagia (although this was arguably still thrash). That's all I can tell you about the pioneers.

[Knucklesdude]

I changed it to "founding father"

I think it's important to note Mustaine was of course a prominent writer on Metallica's first album, but I don't really care who founded thrash. As with all "who founded" discussions it's a stalemate and you can't point to a band or songwriter that "created" it.

I'll just add a few bands who have cited Megadeth as an influence

Rx Bandits
Celesty
Kalmah
Nightwish
HeXeN
Death Angel
Ghoul
Power Quest
Dream Theater
Arch Enemy
DevilDriver
Shadows Fall
Avenged Sevenfold
Lamb of God

[Teh_Jakester]

Yeah, that has obviously nothing to do with the style of music that Maiden plays. Just Dickinson's desire to screw everything up so he can sign higher. :rolleyes:

Paul Di'Anno didn't try to do impossibly high notes, and he was Maiden's best vocalist.


You're kidding, right? "The Four Horsemen" is easily one of, if not the, best Metallica songs. Are you seriously suggesting that not only their classic material, but stuff off of Load, Reload, and St. Anger is better than it?

Every song off those three albums are better than The Four Horsemen. They suck, sure, but at least they didn't take a great song and rape it to hell.


Even though I know you meant something other than what you typed, this is the only correct part of your post. Megadeth isn't nearly as awesome as they could have been because Mustaine is on vocals.

I CAN'T TYPE THIS MONTH ARGH


True words, The Four Horsemen is an upgrade from Mechanix. Mechanix is just a stupid song at the end of the day.

Oh, yeah, because uninspired lyrics about death and destruction for the hell of it are better than inspired lyrics feturing metaphors.
And playing your guitar at half tempo is so much better than the full tempo the song was originally written for. Oh, yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah.

[DrewLee865]

Paul Di'anno hit some pretty high falsettos. I don't think you know much about Iron Maiden.

[Teh_Jakester]

Paul Di'anno hit some pretty high falsettos. I don't think you know much about Iron Maiden.

The emphasis wasn't on fasettos. Unlike dickinson, where every other song is 75% falsetto.

[DrewLee865]

Oh, yeah, because uninspired lyrics about death and destruction for the hell of it are better than inspired lyrics feturing metaphors.
And playing your guitar at half tempo is so much better than the full tempo the song was originally written for. Oh, yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaah.Because lyrics about having sex in a repair shop are so much better....

[Cpt. Overkill]

tokio hotelllll

[Teh_Jakester]

Because lyrics about having sex in a repair shop are so much better....

Hey, it takes a great writer to make metaphors like that.

[Tank9088]

Every song off those three albums are better than The Four Horsemen. They suck, sure, but at least they didn't take a great song and rape it to hell.


No, if you think Mechanix is btter than Four Horsemen that's fine but if you think My World or any other song off of St.Anger is better than The Four Horsemen, you're just plain delusional. Also, how could you say the lyrics are better for Mechanix? They're ridiculous hence why they were changed. Sex in a repair shop, you're gonna tell me that's a better idea for a metal song than the four horsemen of the apocalypse?:rolleyes:

[Teh_Jakester]

They're ridiculous hence why they were changed. Sex in a repair shop, you're gonna tell me that's a better idea for a metal song than the four horsemen of the apocalypse?:rolleyes:

Yes, actually. Mustaine craftily used metaphors (i.e. makes my pistons bulge" for getting a boner). Tell me something. Who decided all Metal songs had to be about death and destruction? It's been played out; Mustine tried something new, and it worked. Even if you don't like the lyrics, the music behind said lyrics is better. Sure, faster =/= better, but Mustaine achieved both.

[Tank9088]

Yes, actually. Mustaine craftily used metaphors (i.e. makes my pistons bulge" for getting a boner). Tell me something. Who decided all Metal songs had to be about death and destruction? It's been played out; Mustine tried something new, and it worked. Even if you don't like the lyrics, the music behind said lyrics is better. Sure, faster =/= better, but Mustaine achieved both.

You're right about the song because I do like The Mechanix better but the lyrics on The Four Horsemen are 1000x better. The metaphors come off as corny more than badass.

[Teh_Jakester]

You're right about the song because I do like The Mechanix better but the lyrics on The Four Horsemen are 1000x better. The metaphors come off as corny more than badass.

And James Hetfield screaming about death war pestilence etc. is so much better. Cliche is always better than crafty.

[Tank9088]

And Jame Hetfield screaming about death war pestilence etc. is so much better. Cliche is always better than crafty.

Lol,crafty. "I'm giving you my room service" How clever. And yes, I would take Hetfield singing about death,war, and pestilence rather than Mustaine singing about having sex in a repair shop using weak metaphors.

[Teh_Jakester]

Hetfield singing

I lol'd.

[Zidane]

I always thought Mechanix was a joke song......

[Stevie B]

MEGADETH!!! (but I actually like Iron Maiden too)

[Steelerfreak1977]

A few points.

1. Megadeth(and more succintly Mustaine) is absolutely extremely influential. Nobody, let me repeat that, NOBODY composed the types of riffs Dave Mustaine did until he did them. You can thank him for adding in extreme technicality into extreme music.

2. Megadeth's first 3 albums are absolute gold mines of technical thrash and should be praised more than they are.

3. Mustaine's vocals absolutely fit their music perfectly.

4. Any fan of Megadeth should give the band Raven a try. I have a sneaking suspicion Raven was a major influence for Mustaine. Actually, they were a big inspiration for a lot of bands. Raven freaking ruled and never got their due.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foP9jXGnzKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0gBZrG3zbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8aV3cpJh4

[metlhed878]

Why are you even comparing these two? They are completely different sounds, this just shows that people deliberately try to create topics for the sake of doing so

[DrewLee865]

A few points.

1. Megadeth(and more succintly Mustaine) is absolutely extremely influential. Nobody, let me repeat that, NOBODY composed the types of riffs Dave Mustaine did until he did them. You can thank him for adding in extreme technicality into extreme music.

2. Megadeth's first 3 albums are absolute gold mines of technical thrash and should be praised more than they are.

3. Mustaine's vocals absolutely fit their music perfectly.

4. Any fan of Megadeth should give the band Raven a try. I have a sneaking suspicion Raven was a major influence for Mustaine. Actually, they were a big inspiration for a lot of bands. Raven freaking ruled and never got their due.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foP9jXGnzKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0gBZrG3zbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8aV3cpJh4There was technicality before Megadeth in extreme metal.

[Bub]

Why is this thread still alive? I actually am really starting to like Megadeth A LOT but Iron Maiden ranks way higher in my book by a long shot.

[dabears116]

A few points.

1. Megadeth(and more succintly Mustaine) is absolutely extremely influential. Nobody, let me repeat that, NOBODY composed the types of riffs Dave Mustaine did until he did them. You can thank him for adding in extreme technicality into extreme music.

2. Megadeth's first 3 albums are absolute gold mines of technical thrash and should be praised more than they are.

3. Mustaine's vocals absolutely fit their music perfectly.

4. Any fan of Megadeth should give the band Raven a try. I have a sneaking suspicion Raven was a major influence for Mustaine. Actually, they were a big inspiration for a lot of bands. Raven freaking ruled and never got their due.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foP9jXGnzKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0gBZrG3zbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8aV3cpJh4Are you implying that Megadeth was more technical in 1985 than Watchtower? By the way, technical and brutal death metal got most of their complexity from jazz. Mustaine was influential, not Megadeth (although I kind of contradicted myself)

[franticfish]

A few points.

1. Megadeth(and more succintly Mustaine) is absolutely extremely influential. Nobody, let me repeat that, NOBODY composed the types of riffs Dave Mustaine did until he did them. You can thank him for adding in extreme technicality into extreme music.

2. Megadeth's first 3 albums are absolute gold mines of technical thrash and should be praised more than they are.

3. Mustaine's vocals absolutely fit their music perfectly.

4. Any fan of Megadeth should give the band Raven a try. I have a sneaking suspicion Raven was a major influence for Mustaine. Actually, they were a big inspiration for a lot of bands. Raven freaking ruled and never got their due.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=foP9jXGnzKU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R0gBZrG3zbg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lt8aV3cpJh4
I would never call Killing is My Business... tech-thrash, Peace Sells... is tech-thrash at times while Rust In Peace is definetly tech-thrash but thats more due to Marty than Dave. The gold mines of tech-thrash were Coroner, Watchtower and Sadus.

[Mystlyfe77]

A few points.
1. Megadeth(and more succintly Mustaine) is absolutely extremely influential. Nobody, let me repeat that, NOBODY composed the types of riffs Dave Mustaine did until he did them. You can thank him for adding in extreme technicality into extreme music.

Even ignoring the stupid technical comment... Gary Holt would like a word with you.

[Wrathy]

If there was no Iron Maiden, there would probably be no Megadeth.

However, if there was no Megadeth, Maiden would still be going strong.

I love both bands but it's clearly Maiden.

[Sargehalo51]

Maiden.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Even ignoring the stupid technical comment... Gary Holt would like a word with you.


Yes, Mustaine's riffs aren't technical AT ALL. Where do you people come from? I think I'll take the words of members of actual thrash bands over you, thanks. And LMAO at the Gary Holt comment. Great guitarist for sure and BBB is one of my favorite records, but Mustaine's early riffs are waaaay more technical, period.

[Steelerfreak1977]

I would never call Killing is My Business... tech-thrash, Peace Sells... is tech-thrash at times while Rust In Peace is definetly tech-thrash but thats more due to Marty than Dave. The gold mines of tech-thrash were Coroner, Watchtower and Sadus.

If you don't think the riffs on KIMB aren't technical I can't help you.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Are you implying that Megadeth was more technical in 1985 than Watchtower? By the way, technical and brutal death metal got most of their complexity from jazz. Mustaine was influential, not Megadeth (although I kind of contradicted myself)


Your last line is what I already previously stated.

[Mystlyfe77]

Yes, Mustaine's riffs aren't technical AT ALL. Where do you people come from? I think I'll take the words of members of actual thrash bands over you, thanks. And LMAO at the Gary Holt comment. Great guitarist for sure and BBB is one of my favorite records, but Mustaine's early riffs are waaaay more technical, period.

Our point wasn't that they weren't technical, it's that there were plenty of technical musicians in metal before Mustaine. And Gary Holt was playing thrash riffs before Mustaine or Hetfield (and Hetfield had every bit as much to do with early Metallica as Mustaine).

Also, when compared to tech-thrash, they really aren't technical.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Our point wasn't that they weren't technical, it's that there were plenty of technical musicians in metal before Mustaine. And Gary Holt was playing thrash riffs before Mustaine or Hetfield (and Hetfield had every bit as much to do with early Metallica as Mustaine).

Also, when compared to tech-thrash, they really aren't technical.


Nobody wrote riffs like Mustaine before Mustaine did. Period. Without him, your so-called "tech-thrash" doesn't exist.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klEuEtOWuI

Your boy Gary Holt says, and I quote, "Dave started it."

And, Joel McIver, an extremely respected metal journalist, named Dave Mustaine the best heavy metal guitarist EVER. EVER. Read his book and you will see why. It's called The 100 Greatest Metal Guitarists.

[40FootWolf]

Will you people quit making these stupid ****ing threads? THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE. You might as well ask which is better, Foghat or Chuck Berry?

[Stones_Clash]

Will you people quit making these stupid ****ing threads? THEY ARE NOT COMPARABLE. You might as well ask which is better, Foghat or Chuck Berry?

obviously chuck berry :)

[Mystlyfe77]

Nobody wrote riffs like Mustaine before Mustaine did. Period. Without him, your so-called "tech-thrash" doesn't exist.

Watch this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2klEuEtOWuI

Your boy Gary Holt says, and I quote, "Dave started it."

And, Joel McIver, an extremely respected metal journalist, named Dave Mustaine the best heavy metal guitarist EVER. EVER. Read his book and you will see why. It's called The 100 Greatest Metal Guitarists.

Wow, I don't even know where to begin.

You're using out of context quotes from yellow journalist DVDs to back up your story? Seriously?

Exodus had been around for more than a year by the time Metallica formed, and put out their first demo before Metallica did. While it's true that the first demo did have a lot of NWOBHM/speed to it, it was the first recording of thrash, period.

Nobody is denying that Dave Mustaine is a good guitarist. Nobody is denying Dave Mustaine is influential. Nobody is denying that Dave is probably the most influential man in the history of thrash metal. But Dave isn't the first to be technical in metal or the first to play those style riffs.

Also, in order to be the "best heavy metal guitarist ever," you first must be the best heavy metal guitarist in your band. Dave isn't. Chris Broderick rips Dave to shreds.

[MrFruitLord]

Also, in order to be the "best heavy metal guitarist ever," you first must be the best heavy metal guitarist in your band. Dave isn't. Chris Broderick rips Dave to shreds.

As do Friedman and Poland.

[40FootWolf]

obviously chuck berry :)

...Granted.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Nobody is denying that Dave Mustaine is a good guitarist. Nobody is denying Dave Mustaine is influential. Nobody is denying that Dave is probably the most influential man in the history of thrash metal. But Dave isn't the first to be technical in metal or the first to play those style riffs.




Yes, Dave Mustaine was the first to play and compose those style riffs. If he wasn't who was? Was there that type of technical proficiency beforehand? No, there was not. Ergo, Mustaine created a hugely influential style that led DIRECTLY to your definition of "tech-thrash". I'm not sure what you are finding so disagreeable here.

You have basically agreed with my WHOLE premise except for the "first to do it" part. Who was the first to create those types of riffs then if not Mustaine? Surely not Holt even if Exodus formed first. Remember, Mustaine joined Metallica in 1981. Who before 1981 created those types of riffs?

[Steelerfreak1977]

As do Friedman and Poland.

In technical lead-playing for sure. In rhythm playing? Not even close. In riff construction? Not even close. In influence? Not even close.

[MrFruitLord]

In technical lead-playing for sure. In rhythm playing? Not even close. In riff construction? Not even close. In influence? Not even close.

You are great at double posting. Besides, as far as mainstream thrash rythym playing, many would argue that Scott Ian is the better rythym player.

[Steelerfreak1977]

You are great at double posting. Besides, as far as mainstream thrash rythym playing, many would argue that Scott Ian is the better rythym player.

And many would be wrong. But that still doesn't detract from the fact that Mustaine is the best overall guitar player Megadeth ever had. Hence, he is one of the best metal guitarists period.

[Metal_Man]

I vote Iron Maiden but then again In my opinion no band is better than Iron Maiden so you may just want to add my vote then ignore the rest

[Mystlyfe77]

Yes, Dave Mustaine was the first to play and compose those style riffs. If he wasn't who was? Was there that type of technical proficiency beforehand? No, there was not. Ergo, Mustaine created a hugely influential style that led DIRECTLY to your definition of "tech-thrash". I'm not sure what you are finding so disagreeable here.

You have basically agreed with my WHOLE premise except for the "first to do it" part. Who was the first to create those types of riffs then if not Mustaine? Surely not Holt even if Exodus formed first. Remember, Mustaine joined Metallica in 1981. Who before 1981 created those types of riffs?

GARY ****ING HOLT! That's who!

The quote in there is taken OUT OF CONTEXT. You, surely, can't hope that is going to convince anyone with half a brain.

As for who was playing technical riffs before him?
Plenty of NWOBHM bands, including Blitzkrieg (which Metallica cites as a major influence) and Tank.
Hell, you can trace the roots of thrash metal back to Bliztkrieg too, probably.

[MrFruitLord]

And many would be wrong. But that still doesn't detract from the fact that Mustaine is the best overall guitar player Megadeth ever had. Hence, he is one of the best metal guitarists period.

...In your opinion...

[Mystlyfe77]

And many would be wrong. But that still doesn't detract from the fact that Mustaine is the best overall guitar player Megadeth ever had. Hence, he is one of the best metal guitarists period.

Chris Broderick kicks Mustaine's ass in every way. Are you seriously trying to argue that Mustaine's a better "overall guitar player" than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohcxxt6oHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSchoITeht0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYfLjsHBDE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXUpEQpiSLA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpZ645ztl0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBJUUogVyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di9UXIHUH84&feature=related


And, btw, Mustaine agrees. Even he says that Chris Broderick is the best guitarist Megadeth has ever had.

[Steelerfreak1977]

GARY ****ING HOLT! That's who!

The quote in there is taken OUT OF CONTEXT. You, surely, can't hope that is going to convince anyone with half a brain.

As for who was playing technical riffs before him?
Plenty of NWOBHM bands, including Blitzkrieg (which Metallica cites as a major influence) and Tank.
Hell, you can trace the roots of thrash metal back to Bliztkrieg too, probably.


I guess I'll ask for, what.....the 5th time now? Who was playing TECHNICAL THRASH RIFFS BEFORE DAVE MUSTAINE? Holt's riffs weren't technical and those British bands weren't thrash. Please, PLEASE don't make me ask again.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Chris Broderick kicks Mustaine's ass in every way. Are you seriously trying to argue that Mustaine's a better "overall guitar player" than this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xohcxxt6oHo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSchoITeht0&NR=1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NsYfLjsHBDE&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WXUpEQpiSLA&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xkpZ645ztl0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jBJUUogVyU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Di9UXIHUH84&feature=related


And, btw, Mustaine agrees. Even he says that Chris Broderick is the best guitarist Megadeth has ever had.

Who is the better rhythm guitarist? Who is the better riff writer? Who was more influential. They are rhetorical questions.

[MrFruitLord]

Who is the better rhythm guitarist? Who is the better riff writer? Who was more influential. They are rhetorical questions.

Scott Ian.

[Steelerfreak1977]

...In your opinion...

Well of course. What is yours by the way?

[Steelerfreak1977]

Scott Ian.


Please. But you are entitled to your opinion.

[Mystlyfe77]

Who is the better rhythm guitarist? Who is the better riff writer? Who was more influential. They are rhetorical questions.

Jesus Christ, you're thick.

I don't care if they're rhetorical, aside of influence (which doesn't make you any better of a guitar player, it just makes you more influential)... Chris Broderick.

And when DAVE MUSTAINE AGREES WITH ME, I'm not sure why you're arguing.

I'm done arguing with you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about and your knowledge of metal is based off of what people tell you to think in the DVDs you waste your money on.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Jesus Christ, you're thick.

I don't care if they're rhetorical, aside of influence (which doesn't make you any better of a guitar player, it just makes you more influential)... Chris Broderick.

And when DAVE MUSTAINE AGREES WITH ME, I'm not sure why you're arguing.


LOL, you saying Chris Broderick is a better riff writer than Mustaine makes you look foolish. Mark Briody wrote the majority of riffs in Panzer. He was also the rhythm guitar player, not Broderick.

[Steelerfreak1977]

I'm done arguing with you. You don't have a clue what you're talking about and your knowledge of metal is based off of what people tell you to think in the DVDs you waste your money on.


Haha, I know more about metal than you possibly can hope to. I can guarantee I've been in the scene longer and am more learned.

Oh, and genius, I was using that video clip and book to illustrate my point. That hard for you to grasp?

[Mystlyfe77]

Goddam it, I hate being stubborn.


LOL, you saying Chris Broderick is a better riff writer than Mustaine makes you look foolish. Mark Briody wrote the majority of riffs in Panzer. He was also the rhythm guitar player, not Broderick.

There's a reason Broderick played lead in Panzer, because he's good. But just because he played lead doesn't mean that he's a poor rhythm player. He played rhythm with Nevermore, and kicked ass.

And riff writing, Dave's not going to let Broderick get much space there (we both know that). But the riffs Broderick does turn out are golden.


Haha, I know more about metal than you possibly can hope to. I can guarantee I've been in the scene longer and am more learned.

I invite you to listen to my radio show sometime.
http://www.wkdu.org/node/8856
Don't have a set one this summer, but next term I will. You'll learn a thing or two about metal.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Goddam it, I hate being stubborn.



There's a reason Broderick played lead in Panzer, because he's good. But just because he played lead doesn't mean that he's a poor rhythm player. He played rhythm with Nevermore, and kicked ass.

And riff writing, Dave's not going to let Broderick get much space there (we both know that). But the riffs Broderick does turn out are golden.



I invite you to listen to my radio show sometime.
http://www.wkdu.org/node/8856
Don't have a set one this summer, but next term I will. You'll learn a thing or two about metal.


My friend (may I call you that?), I've been in the metal scene for many many years and like I said know enough about the subject. I daresay I have bands in my collection you've never heard of.

Anybody saying Broderick is on par with Mustaine in terms of riff-writing or rhythm playing is the one who needs schooling, not I. I mean, you bring up Nevermore but completely fail to mention Loomis, who AGAIN, was the main songwriter in that band. I'm not sure where you are going.

I will say this though, you have spirit and seemingly love metal. But please don't try to refute my points because they are all accurate. Anyone with a brain and some metal knowledge knows it.

Is Broderick a better lead player than Mustaine? Broderick is a better lead player than most guitarists period. Is Mustaine a better rhythm player and riff writer? I would bet insanely large amounts of money that Chris Broderick would agree with me.

[Hungryfreak]

I daresay I have bands in my collection you've never heard of.

Dude, get over yourself. I could probably say the same and I've only been into metal for 4-5 years at a stretch.

[MrFruitLord]

Fun Fact: Dark Angel's Darkness Descends came out the same year as one of Megadeth's two most influential album, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? Dark Angel also was formed in 1981, while Megadeth was formed in 1983.

[Mystlyfe77]

My friend (may I call you that?), I've been in the metal scene for many many years and like I said know enough about the subject. I daresay I have bands in my collection you've never heard of.

And I daresay that I, too, have band in my collection you've never heard of. Especially in the age of the internet, it's easy to find some obscure artists. That being said, I love to go to bar and basement shows for local and underground bands, and discover a fair bit of music that way. And being a radio DJ certainly helps too.
Feel free to call into my show sometime and suggest something you'd think I'd like.



Anybody saying Broderick is on par with Mustaine in terms of riff-writing or rhythm playing is the one who needs schooling, not I. I mean, you bring up Nevermore but completely fail to mention Loomis, who AGAIN, was the main songwriter in that band. I'm not sure where you are going.

You asked for his rhythm playing skills, I showed you an example. It's not Broderick's fault that the other members of Nevermore were creating solo projects while he was in the band, so they didn't write any new Nevermore material.
And, yes, Loomis is terrific. One of the few guitarists I like even more than Broderick.



I will say this though, you have spirit and seemingly love metal. But please don't try to refute my points because they are all accurate. Anyone with a brain and some metal knowledge knows it.

Is Broderick a better lead player than Mustaine? Broderick is a better lead player than most guitarists period. Is Mustaine a better rhythm player and riff writer? I would bet insanely large amounts of money that Chris Broderick would agree with me.

It's clear we've come to an point where we're going to have to agree to disagree on this matter. We both firmly believe in our stances, and we both have valid arguments to back them up (anyone "with a brain and some metal knowledge" knows that I'm not saying anything that's false, either).

I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about, but you clearly have a very different perception of some matters than I do.

[Steelerfreak1977]

And I daresay that I, too, have band in my collection you've never heard of. Especially in the age of the internet, it's easy to find some obscure artists. That being said, I love to go to bar and basement shows for local and underground bands, and discover a fair bit of music that way. And being a radio DJ certainly helps too.
Feel free to call into my show sometime and suggest something you'd think I'd like.



You asked for his rhythm playing skills, I showed you an example. It's not Broderick's fault that the other members of Nevermore were creating solo projects while he was in the band, so they didn't write any new Nevermore material.
And, yes, Loomis is terrific. One of the few guitarists I like even more than Broderick.



It's clear we've come to an point where we're going to have to agree to disagree on this matter. We both firmly believe in our stances, and we both have valid arguments to back them up (anyone "with a brain and some metal knowledge" knows that I'm not saying anything that's false, either).

I'm not saying you don't know what you're talking about, but you clearly have a very different perception of some matters than I do.


Fair enough, have a good one. It was fun. And I may take you up on your offer.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Dude, get over yourself. I could probably say the same and I've only been into metal for 4-5 years at a stretch.


I wasn't the one who called Myst "thick" and labelled his post "stupid". It was the other way around. But hey, feel free to just look at what you want to Mr. Clique. Were you this way in High School as well?

I'm guessing yes.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Fun Fact: Dark Angel's Darkness Descends came out the same year as one of Megadeth's two most influential album, Peace Sells... But Who's Buying? Dark Angel also was formed in 1981, while Megadeth was formed in 1983.


And.......? I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with this post, but feel free to elaborate.

[Hungryfreak]

I wasn't the one who called Myst "thick" and labelled his post "stupid". It was the other way around. But hey, feel free to just look at what you want to Mr. Clique. Were you this way in High School as well?

I'm guessing yes.

You're the one who randomly proclaimed that you had a mastery over Myst in music.

And I am in high school now. Random assumptions again.

[MrFruitLord]

And.......? I'm not sure what you are trying to prove with this post, but feel free to elaborate.

Listen to Darkness Descends.

[Steelerfreak1977]

You're the one who randomly proclaimed that you had a mastery over Myst in music.

And I am in high school now. Random assumptions again.

Oh I see. When attacked, just lie there and take it then? Gotcha. Have a good night.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Listen to Darkness Descends.


I own it. What's your point again?

[Hungryfreak]

Oh I see. When attacked, just lie there and take it then? Gotcha. Have a good night.

My only point is that you can't claim yourself the czar of a genre because you can name a few obscure bands. I don't even claim myself that knowledgeable in music and I can at least do that.

[MrFruitLord]

I own it. What's your point again?

It's far more technical than Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?, which is one of Megadeth's two most influential albums.

[Steelerfreak1977]

It's far more technical than Peace Sells... But Who's Buying?, which is one of Megadeth's two most influential albums.


Erm, no it isn't. It's crushingly fast and heavy though, especially for that year. I know quite a few who prefer it to Reign In Blood actually.

More technical though? Not by a long shot.

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Define "technical" for me.

[Steelerfreak1977]

My only point is that you can't claim yourself the czar of a genre because you can name a few obscure bands. I don't even claim myself that knowledgeable in music and I can at least do that.


I never claimed anything of the sort. He claimed I knew nothing about metal. I responded that I knew more than him. He responded that I didn't. Please feel free to go re-read if you doubt it. I mean, I'm going off the assumption that you and he are probably tight 'round these parts and I'm just a nobody, but don't twist the facts.

K pardner?

[Steelerfreak1977]

Night all. I'll leave you with a cool little ditty from a cool underrated band, Sabbat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIPqG-JD7c

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Night all. I'll leave you with a cool little ditty from a cool underrated band, Sabbat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIPqG-JD7c

Holy crap, the vox just ruin it. I don't get the appeal of the higher-pitched girgle sounding vox.

[Mystlyfe77]

Night all. I'll leave you with a cool little ditty from a cool underrated band, Sabbat.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AIPqG-JD7c

You picked the wrong Sabbat. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvEJI15eIzE

[Hungryfreak]

I never claimed anything of the sort. He claimed I knew nothing about metal. I responded that I knew more than him. He responded that I didn't. Please feel free to go re-read if you doubt it. I mean, I'm going off the assumption that you and he are probably tight 'round these parts and I'm just a nobody, but don't twist the facts.

K pardner?

Yeah, I overreacted and owe you an apology, though I'll still say you can't use obscure bands or seniority to claim having better knowledge.

[Steelerfreak1977]

You picked the wrong Sabbat. :p
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TvEJI15eIzE

LOL, touche. They certainly are badass as well. I gotta say though I have an extremely soft spot for the UK band. Dreamweaver is one of my all-time favorite albums.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Yeah, I overreacted and owe you an apology, though I'll still say you can't use obscure bands or seniority to claim having better knowledge.


K, fair enough. Apology accepted and I agree. I was a little worked up is all.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Holy crap, the vox just ruin it. I don't get the appeal of the higher-pitched girgle sounding vox.

Wow, really? Everyone has an opinion but mine is that Martin Walkyier, who is an absolute beast at writing lyrics (see his subsequent band Skyclad especially), has a GREAT voice for thrash. Not as good as Pat Lind from Morbid Saint maybe, but great nonetheless. Totally vicious.

[RetroMonster]

Iron Maiden.

[RandomBrandon]

Iron Maiden is better. Megadeth is really good, but not as good as Maiden.

[TouchOfEvil]

Iron Maiden. But Megadeth are really great as well. Looking forward to Megadeth's next album "End Game" which ships in September.

[Steelerfreak1977]

Iron Maiden. But Megadeth are really great as well. Looking forward to Megadeth's next album "End Game" which ships in September.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oKsj0OBys

Not bad. Reminds me a little of SFSGSW which can only be a good thing as that album is criminally underrated.

[MrFruitLord]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D_oKsj0OBys

Not bad. Reminds me a little of SFSGSW which can only be a good thing as that album is criminally underrated.

This. That's a very overlooked album.

[Steelerfreak1977]

This. That's a very overlooked album.


Yeah, that one usually gets tossed in the memory trash heap for some reason. I always thought it was because it was the album between the Samuelsson/Poland and Menza/Friedman line-ups. Some of Megadeth's best tunes on it though and Jeff Young just rips on lead guitar.

[MrFruitLord]

Yeah, that one usually gets tossed in the memory trash heap for some reason. I always thought it was because it was the album between the Samuelsson/Poland and Menza/Friedman line-ups. Some of Megadeth's best tunes on it though and Jeff Young just rips on lead guitar.

Their "cover" of Anarchy In The U.K. is actually very good. And yes, Jeff Young was pretty good. I still like Marty and Chris more, but he was pretty good.

[linkkjm]

I cant stand Iron Maidens Singer, Megadeth please

[Mystlyfe77]

I cant stand Iron Maidens Singer, Megadeth please

You do know they've had three vocalists, right?

Actually five, but only three on full albums.

[ArtMarz]

Paramore.

Paramore is crap!

[Mystlyfe77]

Paramore is crap!

*slow clap*

[ArtMarz]

*slow clap*

Thank you!

*Pats self on back!

I'm sure you were being sarcastic anyways! About Paramore!

[Alright_Computer]

Thank you!

*Pats self on back!

I'm sure you were being sarcastic anyways! About Paramore!

You sure do like! Exclamation points! Don't you?!

[Mystlyfe77]

You sure do like! Exclamation points! Don't you?!

I'm trying to decide whether to peg him as a Panic! At the Disco Fan or a GY!BE fan. I'm thinking Panic.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

apples and oranges

This

How do you expect people to compare them? Megadeth is a Thrash Metal band and Iron Maiden is a stadium/operatic/epic metal band.