Guitar Hero 5 is now a platform

[toymachineSH]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/101/1011988p1.html

figured this was big enough news to not be in the GH5 Setlist thread

[Banky71]

Wow I really didn't think this would happen.

[cweaver8518]

Can you post what it says? My cell phone won't load it. Its obviously exportability but I'd like details. Inb4!

[toymachineSH]

And now for a bigger announcement. Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games. On PS3, Xbox 360 and Wii, some of the disc-based songs from Guitar Hero World Tour and Smash Hits will be importable, for a fee, to work with Guitar Hero 5 and the upcoming Band Hero. What's more, currently 152 out of 158 Guitar Hero World Tour downloadable tracks will automatically work with Guitar Hero 5. All of the songs you import will be upgraded to work with the new Guitar Hero 5 features, such as band moments and vocal star power.

Tim Riley, head of music licensing at Activision, had this to say about importing songs

"It's something we've wanted to do for a while now. They are separate licenses, so we need to go back and re-license previous content. So, songs from World Tour, songs from the download space, songs from Smash Hits that will technically work in Guitar Hero 5 and Band Hero had to be renegotiated...We didn't want to do it for a couple songs. We wanted to do it for a couple hundred songs. So we have a lot cleared and we're in the process of clearing a lot more."

Party Play makes it easier to simply play.
When asked if licenses being negotiated for Guitar Hero 5 and future games would work from here on out, Riley responded, "I wish there was an easy answer, but that's the idea."

Check back with IGN Monday morning for the complete details on how importing songs into Guitar Hero 5 will work.

[Pwnz0r3d]

Can you post what it says? My cell phone won't load it. Its obviously exportability but I'd like details. Inb4!

GH5 will export songs from previous Guitar heroes.
And Johnny Cash has his own ingame avatar.

[CommonCriminal]

Hmm. I'm still not buying it, but this makes my rent more worth it because I bought some DLC for GHWT. (Black Betty, Jessie's Girl)

[Apples]

"It's something we've wanted to do for a while now.

How disingenuous for the rep to say.

It's just a power play me-too move so they don't look as embarassing compared to the competition. I applaud the move, but please don't candy-coat it as something they're doing "out of the goodness of their hearts."

[instantdeath999]

I wonder how much this fee will be. To be honest, I'm really not too concerned with the whole platform thing (changing discs has never been too much of a problem for me, hence why I'm so excited for The Beatles), although I do enjoy RB2 a lot more with everything on it.

[topperharley]

What a cool idea. Why didn't HMX think of that? Oh yeah, they did. Over a freaking year ago.

[instantdeath999]

Well, it doesn't have to be viewed as a competition. It's like comparing a movie that's based after a book to its source material. There's always going to be something amiss, but it's good in its own right.

They're definitely late to the party, but it's nice for those who want everything in once place. I don't think I'll go for it, though... just doesn't seem essential enough.

[jonoo24]

lol.

My bet is that those "50 songs" are re-licensed songs.

Nice platform nevervision!

[Lady Siara]

A step in the right direction.

However, it's a little late now. :\

[toymachineSH]

the 50 songs thing was a misconception based on Gamestop's

2 free DLC songs froma a choice of 50 on purchase of GH5

Nice job though MTVMONIXARTS fan

[Jglaubman]

So... now I can get the terrible set list of GHWT and the awful charting of GHSH? Yeah... no thanks.

[jonoo24]

MTVMONIXARTS fan

This doesn't sound nearly as cool as nevervision.

Nice try, nevervision fan

[Apples]

So... now I can get the terrible set list of GHWT and the awful charting of GHSH? Yeah... no thanks.


Hey, the charting has improved a bit over the years compared to how it started. Maybe once the RBN docs and guides hit the internet they can learn a few more things. ;)

[Jixzer]

Not that this will sway me to buy GH5, but they are going in the right direction. Bring it on GH, the better you are, the better we'll get. :)

[RockBandRocker]

Lame!

They gave me another reason to not care.


GH is dead to me, and NOTHING they do can bring it back!!

[Jglaubman]

Hey, the charting has improved a bit over the years compared to how it started. Maybe once the RBN docs and guides hit the internet they can learn a few more things. ;)

GHWT charting wasn't too bad (a few over-charting here and there)... but Smash Hits was horrible.

[MdrnDayWarrior]

And now for a bigger announcement. Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games.

:confused::confused::confused::confused:

[ace360]

it does'nt really matter the only guitar hero game I play is metallica anyway and that won't export so I don't care. Although I can't wait till guitar hero 5 comes out.,

[jonoo24]

Am i the only one that finds it laughable that currently has 16 more posts than this one?

[tv3636]

Awesome!

While Harmonix did this first, it is a definite step in the right direction for the Guitar Hero franchise.


I have recently preferred Rock Band, but Guitar Hero is on its way to being equally awesome!

There you go I fixed that for you

Seriously..how can you be such a big RB fan, due to features like this, and they say that this is lame and a bad thing? No matter how much you like RB, this is A VERY GOOD THING. Perhaps, someday in the future, GH and RB fanboys will be able to peacefully co-exist and enjoy both games.

[toymachineSH]

:confused::confused::confused::confused:


Franchise = Guitar Hero
Genre = Plastic Instrument Games

[jonoo24]

Lame!

They gave me another reason to not care.


GH is dead to me, and NOTHING they do can bring it back!!


There you go I fixed that for you

Seriously..how can you be such a big RB fan, due to features like this, and they say that this is lame and a bad thing? No matter how much you like RB, this is A VERY GOOD THING. Perhaps, someday in the future, GH and RB fanboys will be able to peacefully co-exist and enjoy both games.

I love how they even used the word "some" and you still think that GH's "exporting" woukd be like RB1.

Also, why do they flood the markets with games, THEN decide to do this?

They did it because of RB. If rockband wouldn't have done this, neither woud GH. Same goes for the full band.

[toymachineSH]

yeah but but Harmonix stole the beginner mode from World Tour for RB: Lego and the countdown after Pause for Beatles.

bawwwww!

[tv3636]

I love how they even used the word "some" and you still think that GH's "exporting" woukd be like RB1.

Also, why do they flood the markets with games, THEN decide to do this?

They did it because of RB. If rockband wouldn't have done this, neither woud GH. Same goes for the full band.I didn't say it was like RB1's at all, I just said it was a good thing and a step in the right direction. Also, I'm personally more excited for the forward compatibility than the exportability, since I already have those games and I don't really need to play them on a new engine again.

And yes, they probably did do it because of Rock Band...who cares? They did it, and it's a good feature, so what exactly is the problem?

[Jixzer]

Franchise = Guitar Hero
Genre = Plastic Instrument Games

Thanks, you beat me to it. :)

[jonoo24]

yeah but but Harmonix stole the beginner mode from World Tour for RB: Lego and the countdown after Pause for Beatles.

bawwwww!
The begginer mode is in a childs game, so that makes sense. and Honestly? The countdown timer? Is that ALL you can think of?

Things GH took from RB:
Core band gameplay
exporting songs
hammer on chords
a childs game(band hero)
many other things
Things RB took from GH:

As of now, nothing.

When beatles and lego come out:
countdown timer
beginner mode.

I didn't say it was like RB1's at all, I just said it was a good thing and a step in the right direction. Also, I'm personally more excited for the forward compatibility than the exportability, since I already have those games and I don't really need to play them on a new engine again.

And yes, they did do it because of Rock Band...who cares? They did it, and it's a good feature, so what exactly is the problem?

Because they didn't do it well. I just don't like the game. Stop trying to convince me.

[instantdeath999]

I'd be lying if I said this GH vs RB thing doesn't remind me of "my dad can beat up your dad!!!"

[tv3636]

You don't know enough details about the exporting to say it hasn't been done well yet, to quote from the article:
"We didn't want to do it for a couple songs. We wanted to do it for a couple hundred songs. So we have a lot cleared and we're in the process of clearing a lot more.

I'm not trying to convince you to like GH, I'm trying to convince people not to hate on GH for adding a good feature, regardless of RB adding it first.

Also, lol at GH taking a child's game from RB. Neither game is even released yet, and the development process begins months before games are announced, but somehow Band Hero is copying Lego RB?

[RockBandRocker]

There you go I fixed that for you

Seriously..how can you be such a big RB fan, due to features like this, and they say that this is lame and a bad thing? No matter how much you like RB, this is A VERY GOOD THING. Perhaps, someday in the future, GH and RB fanboys will be able to peacefully co-exist and enjoy both games.

No, I really don't care.

Sure, I might try this out (especially if Npeaen gets it since we'll be roommates).


But after the atrocity and HUGE disappointment (to me) that was GH3, I'm done with the GH series. I will NEVER purchase another GH game and adding feature sets that were already implemented in RB doesn't impress me (considering how late to the game a lot of these "new features" are).

[jonoo24]

No, I really don't care.

Sure, I might try this out (especially if Npeaen gets it since we'll be roommates).


But after the atrocity and HUGE disappointment (to me) that was GH3, I'm done with the GH series. I will NEVER purchase another GH game and adding feature sets that were already implemented in RB doesn't impress me (considering how late to the game a lot of these "new features" are).

OMG you and npean willl be roommys?

[hawkofva]

Cool, but I've got my fingers crossed that they haven't relicensed exclusivity on any of the Skynyrd tracks. I'm still praying for Free Bird and Sweet Home Alabama in Rock Band. :)

[RockBandRocker]

OMG you and npean willl be roommys?

Yep! That's the benefit of knowing people in real life. :D


We actually played some RB2 over Live last night (me on guitar, him on drums). He's actually a pretty good drummer.

[jonoo24]

Yep! That's the benefit of knowing people in real life. :D


We actually played some RB2 over Live last night (me on guitar, him on drums). He's actually a pretty good drummer.

I wish i was on 360.

[moose39]

How innovative.

[nicko68]

What a cool idea. Why didn't HMX think of that? Oh yeah, they did. Over a freaking year ago.

Did HMX think about it on the Wii too? Because GH5 disc import will work on the Wii as well.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

And now for a bigger announcement. Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games.

"I think that's called Rock Band...."

Why are they allowed to put such falsities in press releases?

[toymachineSH]

/facepalm ^

[tv3636]

And now for a bigger announcement. Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

And now for a bigger announcement. Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games.

missed that :p

but now that "different business model" excuse for crappy expansions is bull****.

[Rock_Starman]

They're exporting to Band Hero too. This is great. It's not just switching discs,I don't know why people keep saying that. Consider all the new features and the hopefully fixed vocal engine too. I'm gonna have to buy a ton of points and new hard drive. :p

[Pwnz0r3d]

Did HMX think about it on the Wii too? Because GH5 disc import will work on the Wii as well.

They did.
And they couldnt because it was a patch that came with the import function, patches are not allowed under Nintendo's policy, so how is GH supposed to do it?

[FloodOne]

Better late than never I suppose. Too bad they don't have the band specific titles exportable as well.

[nicko68]

Definitely looking forward to this game even more now.

[ThunderCurls]

SOME?!

Failure, but atleast they're trying.

[HeyRiles]

To me, it still doesn't change the fact that GH:WT had THE WORST setlist in the history of rhythm games

[N-Play]

To me, it still doesn't change the fact that GH:WT had THE WORST setlist in the history of rhythm games
Love Removal machine, Pull Me Under, La Bamba

Alone That Rocks.

Wii export, how is That Possible?!

[ThunderCurls]

To me, it still doesn't change the fact that GH:WT had THE WORST setlist in the history of rhythm games

In the history of your opinions.

[HeyRiles]

Match GH:WT up against GH, GH2, GH3, RB, RB2, and you think World Tour has a better setlist than any of those?

[ThunderCurls]

Match GH:WT up against GH, GH2, GH3, RB, RB2, and you think World Tour has a better setlist than any of those?

It matters not, it's only opinion.

[HeyRiles]

Well, you can think of it this way - you can go ahead and take personal opinion into account when it's a part of a mass general consensus

[ThunderCurls]

Well, you can think of it this way - you can go ahead and take personal opinion into account when it's a part of a mass general consensus

We're on a RB forum so RB is sure to win, because of opinion.

[HeyRiles]

By all means, you can go ahead and ask to see the general consensus of WT's setlist to GH5, RB, or RB2 over on the GHC, and you'll still probably find that the consensus is that WT's is the worst of the four. It just has far too much obscurity for a disc

[tv3636]

Obscurity != bad
Bang Camaro was obscure, but they're awesome. I think most people on here would agree. Yes, that 's one example..but the bonus setlists of GH2 and RB are mostly obscure bands and they have some great songs.

And I really don't think the general consensus is that WT had the worst setlist ever. The general consensus may be that the gameplay was bad/other aspects were bad, but overall the setlist was pretty good.

[ThunderCurls]

It just has far too much obscurity for a disc

So obscurity is bad now? Well damn, the way RBN is panning out so far it's going to be the worst thing in the history of things.

[Coldplay619]

^For a disc......RBN gives you the choice to buy them...now stop and get back on topic...

I haven't been into the Guitar Hero series since 2 so this doesn't affect me, but it's nice to see, now both parties will be happy.

[ArchangelZero]

Now if RB3 can get exporting for the Wii. I'll be happy:)

Still not buying GH5 though, might rent it, not buy it.

[Runesmith]

This is good news for Wii owners. Hopefully this little bit of news will inspire HMX to work towards exporting RB1/2/Lego/etc. songs on the Wii console.

It feels good to look on the bright side, eh?

[kiggidykev]

I do hope GH5 has an improved song select screen to sort out all these songs. The GH:WT song screen irritates me with its lack of sorting compared to RB2

[kingtonyx]

it's pretty ridiculous to see the people who are so anti-GH

[Andyx1337]

it's pretty ridiculous to see the people who are so anti-GH
Agreed, I like both franchises. And this is a good thing to hear, I loved GTSH's setlist.

[Cyberwaste]

Some of you still can't be happy that something that has been wanted since the start has finally happened?

Good god you people can be petty.

[ThunderCurls]

it's pretty ridiculous to see the people who are so anti-GH

We pledge allegiance to the flag...

[toymachineSH]

I do hope GH5 has an improved song select screen to sort out all these songs. The GH:WT song screen irritates me with its lack of sorting compared to RB2

They do and it's actually more detailed than RB2

Just sayiiing.

[ylowbstard]

Agreed, I like both franchises. And this is a good thing to hear, I loved GTSH's setlist.

I agree aswell. I'm glad that the people who NEED exporting are getting what they have begged for and that Activision has listened too and has addressed a lot of fan requests.

But honestly, as with RB1, exporting isn't something that I'm down for. I'd rather just swap discs then pay extra.

It's also funny to see a lot of fanboys who claimed they'd "get the game if there was exporting" now change their minds with the classic "well...I'm still not getting it." Fanboyism on the GH forums (and their rants about all things METAL!!!) and the RB forums really gets annoying. Why hate when both games are great?

[chumsicles]

To me, it still doesn't change the fact that GH:WT had THE WORST setlist in the history of rhythm games


I believe that honor goes to Guitar Hero: Modern Hits. Out of 28 songs, only 1 (The Metal) isn't awful

[Ralphy2009]

Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games.

Wasn't GH:WT technically the first (and then GH:M the second) - with the Metallica album from GH3 working in GH:WT/GH:M?

Anyway, it's nice that they've decided to do this, but there's a few things I'm not liking too much...

I'm not seeing anything about GH: Metallica exporting in the article for some reason, and even if the band is an issue (like with The Beatles), there are enough non-Metallica songs in the game that will now be left off this "platform" if it doesn't export. Also, the whole "licensing fee" with a game as recent as Smash Hits strikes me as poor planning on behalf of Activision. And the fact that they aren't also releasing all the Smash Hits expansion game songs as DLC really doesn't sit well with me. Exporting may make it a platform, but it's certainly not the a la carte platform that Rock Band has. I can't buy GH5 and add on the song "No One Knows" for $2. I have to buy a whole other game and then pay a licensing fee on top of that.

Lastly, why can't Smash Hits songs also export and work with GH:WT? There are people out there with RB1 who didn't get RB2 and are still able to use brand new track packs and brand new DLC within RB1. That seems more like a platform theory than "Okay, we're starting all this platform business with GH5. Deal with it." It took Activision nearly two years after Rock Band for their own game that serves as a compatibility basis entry. Maybe it's just me, but am I the only one who noticed that they said nothing about how compatible future GH:WT/GH5 DLC would be? Are they going to just stop providing GH:WT DLC and make it only GH5 DLC from now on so that GH:WT users won't get anymore songs and will have to buy GH5 to get new DLC? That certainly wouldn't be in line with a platform philosophy at all. Oh yeah, it's starting with GH5, even though they started actually implementing cross-compatibility between multiple games before GH:WT was even released.

[Ozzie234]

Not entierly a good thing.

Plattform + DLC = bigger user diversification, suckier online experience, less progression, less tweaking, less development experimentation

[Ozzie234]

Unless they keep releasing two discs a year like before, but I doubt it.

[Ralphy2009]

Not entierly a good thing.

Plattform + DLC = bigger user diversification, suckier online experience

All I hear about on Guitar Hero forums is how the online user base is split up between like 5 games and it's hard to find people. So I think the non-platform outlook makes for the suckier online experience.

[HeyRiles]

So obscurity is bad now? Well damn, the way RBN is panning out so far it's going to be the worst thing in the history of things.

Read, please


It just has far too much obscurity for a disc

[ThunderCurls]

:o

[Weeksy77]

It's a platform for resurrecting / cheapening dead Legends, that's for sure.
Hendrix in the last game, Cash in this one - and if this is to be believed (and I pray to God it's not) - Courtney Love has allowed them to use Kurt Cobain as a playable character: click & shudder..... (http://www.ebgames.com.au/ps3/product.cfm?id=15008&refer=productsearch)

EDIT: I apologise if this is old news - it was the first time I'd seen it ;)

[R33DH4M]

What a cool idea. Why didn't HMX think of that? Oh yeah, they did. Over a freaking year ago.

you won the thread.

[Pwnz0r3d]

Also, the whole "licensing fee" with a game as recent as Smash Hits strikes me as poor planning on behalf of Activision. And the fact that they aren't also releasing all the Smash Hits expansion game songs as DLC really doesn't sit well with me..
Smash Hits was just awful
The setlist was good (it was the best songs from all GH's before WT), but we've played and still probably have the songs on the other disks.
This is the reason why it should've been DLC. The exec's at Activision only want the money, they dont care about the gamers.

And this is coming from an ex-GH fanboy. After the downfall that was World Tour, I've just lost all hope in the GH series (and I started playing Rock Band shortly after this, so fanboyism is not an issue) and the release of Smash Hits has justified that.

[Joeylinkmaster]

first game to export on wii, DLC uses no SD card space. damn this game actually looks good *gasp* :O

[j_dub_rules]

I'm curious why they used "some songs" and not "most songs" like Harmonix did. Less than 1/2 maybe?

[nicko68]

They did.
And they couldnt because it was a patch that came with the import function, patches are not allowed under Nintendo's policy, so how is GH supposed to do it?

A patch wasn't the only option. It could have been a channel. It could have been done from within RB2 (import) rather than RB1 (export). It call came down to time and money.

[nicko68]

SOME?!

Failure, but atleast they're trying.

RB1 was *some* as well. Some means "not all". HMX wasn't able to get 3 songs to export.

[ThunderCurls]

RB1 was *some* as well. Some means "not all". HMX wasn't able to get 3 songs to export.

and HMX stated that MOST would be transferrable.

[nicko68]

and HMX stated that MOST would be transferrable.

Well, the story so far is that Activision has some cleared for export, and is working on getting licensing for more.

So what percentage of "all" is "some" and what percentage is "most" anyway? :)

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

49% or less is some.

51% or more is Most.

IMO.

[Tego1in]

This isn't new at all.

[kingtonyx]

I'm guessing the Hendrix, Tool, and Ozzy songs will not be moving forward

[toymachineSH]

This isn't new at all.

You mean the fact that

RB ALREDDY DID DIS

[Bub]

What a cool idea. Why didn't HMX think of that? Oh yeah, they did. Over a freaking year ago.

This.

[MunkyZero]

This.

Well, seeing as this is the second full-band main game in the GH franchise, it makes perfect sense that this is the first time that importing songs from older games will be applied. Or are you going to bash Neversoft for not allowing exportability of every song in GH3 for WT with drums and vocals tracks added because that is not so ridiculous and yah HMX woud ttly haev dun tat bcuz DEY R SOO MuCH BETR. xD

So I guess you would all prefer that nobody ever stole from/was influenced by anything else EVER because we would all be much less advanced but hey, nobody was ever LAME and COPIED logical ideas from anyone else.

Right?


Smash Hits was just awful
The setlist was good (it was the best songs from all GH's before WT), but we've played and still probably have the songs on the other disks.
This is the reason why it should've been DLC. The exec's at Activision only want the money, they dont care about the gamers.

You don't seem to realize that buying a game with 48 songs costs LESS than buying 48 DLC songs. But that's cool; logic is overrated anyway.

[Sargehalo51]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

[tv3636]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

[MunkyZero]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

And I thought that the people in this thread COULD NOT get any stupider, but you proved me wrong. Congratulations. No, really.

[Soja]

Nice to see that Nevervision has caught up with the times.

A year later.

You must admit that between Smash Hits and WT, their setlist has some pretty impressive songs and names on it.

What disdains me the most is that they've made a lifeless marionette mockery of Johnny Cash now. FML.

[timmay9]

Notice how not every song is exportable.

[tv3636]

Notice how not every song is exportable."We wanted to do it for a couple hundred songs. So we have a lot cleared and we're in the process of clearing a lot more."

Just because it's "some" at the moment doesn't mean it won't end up being "most" like Rock Band's. And still, some is better than none. Besides, the forward compatibility is the much bigger feature in my opinion.

[ShoTTySLanKiN]

Wasn't GH:WT technically the first (and then GH:M the second) - with the Metallica album from GH3 working in GH:WT/GH:M?

Anyway, it's nice that they've decided to do this, but there's a few things I'm not liking too much...

I'm not seeing anything about GH: Metallica exporting in the article for some reason, and even if the band is an issue (like with The Beatles), there are enough non-Metallica songs in the game that will now be left off this "platform" if it doesn't export. Also, the whole "licensing fee" with a game as recent as Smash Hits strikes me as poor planning on behalf of Activision. And the fact that they aren't also releasing all the Smash Hits expansion game songs as DLC really doesn't sit well with me. Exporting may make it a platform, but it's certainly not the a la carte platform that Rock Band has. I can't buy GH5 and add on the song "No One Knows" for $2. I have to buy a whole other game and then pay a licensing fee on top of that.

Lastly, why can't Smash Hits songs also export and work with GH:WT? There are people out there with RB1 who didn't get RB2 and are still able to use brand new track packs and brand new DLC within RB1. That seems more like a platform theory than "Okay, we're starting all this platform business with GH5. Deal with it." It took Activision nearly two years after Rock Band for their own game that serves as a compatibility basis entry. Maybe it's just me, but am I the only one who noticed that they said nothing about how compatible future GH:WT/GH5 DLC would be? Are they going to just stop providing GH:WT DLC and make it only GH5 DLC from now on so that GH:WT users won't get anymore songs and will have to buy GH5 to get new DLC? That certainly wouldn't be in line with a platform philosophy at all. Oh yeah, it's starting with GH5, even though they started actually implementing cross-compatibility between multiple games before GH:WT was even released.

Wow! This pretty much sums up howw I feel. And also some of the questions we are being left in the dark about.

As for the whole GHWT has the worst setlist. I think that is highly debateable item. I think it appealed to a certain crowd, Tool fans would think it was a great game because they have 3 tracks.

I love RB and I like GH. The export feature is pretty cool, but I'm not sure if I want GH5 just so I can play all the GHWT & GHSH on one disc. It's def awesome they caught up, but I think GH has already lost interest for me.

My last thing is will we be able to export Band Hero's set to GH5? And ViseVersa. It would be kinda backwards if they said they were starting the platform thing and didn't allow both new titles to work with eath other.

[Knucklesdude]

Revolutionary!

Who'da thunk an invention so brilliant outta thin air!?

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

If there was an emoticon for :smug: I bet you would have had it all over your face when you wrote out that topic title, toymachine.

Oh well, good on them. Now maybe the Queen fans will have some solace knowing that they might be able to play their songs in a single setlist now.

[Zidane]

Oh ya? Well Activision-Blizzard is racist.Think about that.

[nicko68]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

Try reading again. GH5 is the first in THE franchise, not THE first franchise. GH5 is the first GH game to support exportability. You are so desperate to bash Activision that you're not even reading correctly.

[Zidane]

Try reading again. GH5 is the first in THE franchise, not THE first franchise. GH5 is the first GH game to support exportability. You are so desperate to bash Activision that you're not even reading correctly.

This forum is dedicated to bashing Activision. I think I'll do it now, actually. Pitfall sucks!

[MunkyZero]

Revolutionary!

Who'da thunk an invention so brilliant outta thin air!?

Har har hurr durr. You're so funny. I wish I was as funny as you.


If there was an emoticon for :smug: I bet you would have had it all over your face when you wrote out that topic title, toymachine.

If there was an emoticon for :smug:, it would be in every single post on this forum ever.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

If there was an emoticon for :smug:, it would be in every single post on this forum ever.

Nah, there'd have to be one about feeling betrayed because HMX didn't pick their favorite band for this week's DLC. So maybe :cut: or something.

Oh, also a panicked one since every time there is an announcement for GH suddenly that feature HAS TO BE ADDED TO ROCK BAND NO EXCEPTIONS OR ELSE HMX WILL LOSE AND I'M SAYING THIS AS A RB FANBOY HONEST11!!11!

[ylowbstard]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

Haha, this is the funniest thing I've seen today (yes, it has been a slow day). Your fanboyism is clouding your judgement and your ability to comprehend what your re reading. Look again, and this time closely lol.

[ThunderCurls]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

YEAH...:rolleyes:

[Chainedsoulz]

YEAH...:rolleyes:

Go back too your GH forums.

:)

[ThunderCurls]

Go back too your GH forums.

:)

I play both games sir. :(

[macamatic]

To me, it still doesn't change the fact that GH:WT had THE WORST setlist in the history of rhythm games
In my opinion it had the best. See how that works?


A patch wasn't the only option. It could have been a channel. It could have been done from within RB2 (import) rather than RB1 (export). It call came down to time and money.
Great. So remind me again how the RB2 disc is going to import songs from the RB1 disc? Try again. As for a channel, there's no evidence whatsoever that they have access to data on a game disc.

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

I play both games sir. :(

As do I.

AS IT STANDS NOW(meaning they said they are working on getting more to transfer), they said they were going after 200 songs to transfer.

DLC transfer is sitting at 152 right now. Subtract that from 200 and you have 48 from WT and SH coming over.

That's not a good ratio IMO, but like I said hopefully by release they get more to follow suit.

It's not the best of news, but at least they are heading in the right direction.

Now only if we can get the guest acts from GHM to come over as well.

I'd say the Metallica songs but I know how Lars can be, so that's most likely never going to happen.

[Ralphy2009]

You don't seem to realize that buying a game with 48 songs costs LESS than buying 48 DLC songs. But that's cool; logic is overrated anyway.

You don't seem to realize that 99% of the people out there would not be buying all 48 songs if they were released as DLC. Most wouldn't even pick up half, which gets you only the songs you want at less cost. But that's cool; logic is overrated anyway.

[The_El_Gringos]

For those asking about how they're doing the Wii exports, I'm betting it'll have something to do with that unique code on the back of each manual for the recent games (I'm not totally sure of this for the Wii owners though since I have the 360 versions, but I'm betting they're on the Wii manuals too)

And to those complaining about them not doing it for GH:M, there's a code on the back of that booklet too, they might be trying to get the licenses for those songs too, so unbunch your panties.

And to everyone who's been bashing Guitar Hero in this thread, *looks at almost everyone* seriously, why? Guitar Hero is not that bad of a game. And this is even a Rock Band fanboy saying this. Sure, the drums aren't as good unless you have the GH drum kit, some charts are over/undercharted, they may slack on the DLC compared to Rock Band, but it's still a fun game! I love some of the new multiplayer modes they're adding in on GH5. I like a lot of the setlist for GH5. I was gonna buy it anyways, and now that they've announced song exporting (and updating for new features like band moments and expert+) is just icing on the cake for me.

So what if Guitar Hero copied Rock Band? So what if Rock Band copies Guitar Hero? THEY'RE STILL FUN! Entertaining! Fantastic party games! Isn't that the point of a video game, to be entertaining?

/rant.

[jonoo24]

For those asking about how they're doing the Wii exports, I'm betting it'll have something to do with that unique code on the back of each manual for the recent games (I'm not totally sure of this for the Wii owners though since I have the 360 versions, but I'm betting they're on the Wii manuals too)

And to those complaining about them not doing it for GH:M, there's a code on the back of that booklet too, they might be trying to get the licenses for those songs too, so unbunch your panties.

And to everyone who's been bashing Guitar Hero in this thread, *looks at almost everyone* seriously, why? Guitar Hero is not that bad of a game. And this is even a Rock Band fanboy saying this. Sure, the drums aren't as good unless you have the GH drum kit, some charts are over/undercharted, they may slack on the DLC compared to Rock Band, but it's still a fun game! I love some of the new multiplayer modes they're adding in on GH5. I like a lot of the setlist for GH5. I was gonna buy it anyways, and now that they've announced song exporting (and updating for new features like band moments and expert+) is just icing on the cake for me.

So what if Guitar Hero copied Rock Band? So what if Rock Band copies Guitar Hero? THEY'RE STILL FUN! Entertaining! Fantastic party games! Isn't that the point of a video game, to be entertaining?

/rant.


That code is for software returns. Because their games break a lot.

Wow, you just pointed out 3 things that suck about guitar hero, but you said it was fun.
"Yeah, I kill small animals, but i give them treats right before!"

[weirdphil]

"GAME WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!111one!!!!!!!!!!!

rockboand is garbage no hard songs

i just wish they would have kept the hammer-ons like GH3 but they reddemed themselves(kinda) in smash hits...
Posted by: xXELLIPHINOXx on August 09, 2009 01:24 PDT"

That kid probably didn't buy the dlc or rock band 2. Also, Smash Hits was a step backward after GH: Metallica.

[Explosion2]

some

This is the only word that keeps me skeptical. other than that, it's a smart move. being able to keep songs in one place is good. Good for GH!

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

"GAME WILL BE AWESOME!!!!!!!!!111one!!!!!!!!!!!

rockboand is garbage no hard songs

i just wish they would have kept the hammer-ons like GH3 but they reddemed themselves(kinda) in smash hits...
Posted by: xXELLIPHINOXx on August 09, 2009 01:24 PDT"

That kid probably didn't buy the dlc or rock band 2. Also, Smash Hits was a step backward after GH: Metallica.


Yeah I don't mind playing Guitar Hero games, but Smash hits was utter garbage for charting.

You can tell it was the developers first music game as it reminded me a lot of GH3.

GHM was however the best post HMX GH, IMO.

So I'm really looking forward to GH5 to see how they've improved in the last uhh...six months :D

[MunkyZero]

You don't seem to realize that 99% of the people out there would not be buying all 48 songs if they were released as DLC. Most wouldn't even pick up half, which gets you only the songs you want at less cost. But that's cool; logic is overrated anyway.

You're right, I didn't think of it that way.

Still, the way he put it was that they only had an entire game made for the songs because it's part of Activision's evil agenda blah blah etc. The point is that they made it a game, and if you buy it, you're free to play any song on it and maybe even try the ones you weren't so excited for a few times, and if you play every song in the game at least once, you still got a better deal than if it was DLC. If you don't want to buy the game, that's fine. Just don't whine about it because there are a FEW songs on it that you might want to play and you insist that you hate every other song in the game enough to make you not want to buy it, so they should have catered specifically to your needs and allowed you to purchase those few songs as DLC.


Wow, you just pointed out 3 things that suck about guitar hero, but you said it was fun.
"Yeah, I kill small animals, but i give them treats right before!"

Way to completely dodge his point. You really should stop posting in this thread.
1st point: That definitely is NOT something that SUCKS about GH. It sucks for YOU if you refuse to buy a GH drum kit and instead choose to use a RB one and subject yourself to the lame 4-lane charts. You should appreciate the fact that Neversoft actually added that game mechanic to allow people playing on their RIVAL's hardware to at least be able to play the drums at all in their game.
2nd point: The charting in WT (I don't know about M/SH) is not nearly as bad as you people exaggerate it to be, and believe it or not, there might actually be some Rock Band charts (OH NOES D:) that aren't very accurate.
3rd point: I can't argue that they don't keep up on DLC, but that still doesn't mean you have to ignore that which was the main point all along:


but it's still a fun game!

I don't expect you to be affected at all by my post, seeing as you're a prime example of why people dislike these forums.

[OrdealByFire]

It really doesn't matter.

GHWT didn't have many good songs, Smash Hits was mediocre at best, and the Guitar Hero V setlist is pretty poor IMO too.

I guess this is good news for Guitar Hero fans, but we already have had this. Only difference is, we have more songs. In quality and quantity.

[kingtonyx]

It really doesn't matter.

GHWT didn't have many good songs, Smash Hits was mediocre at best, and the Guitar Hero V setlist is pretty poor IMO too.

I guess this is good news for Guitar Hero fans, but we already have had this. Only difference is, we have more songs. In quality and quantity.

I thought the Smash Hits setlist was awesome, except for it's gaping hole in the punk genre

[OrdealByFire]

I thought the Smash Hits setlist was awesome, except for it's gaping hole in the punk genre

its*

I think a good number of the "Smash Hits" in that game were crap choices.

[Pwnz0r3d]

Smash Hits was crap.
Songs were good, but buying a collection of songs we might still have on GH 1,2,3 for $50-$60?
Really?!?!

[NormanCoxwell]

So they can import too? Eh i dont really care.

[RicoTheAwesomeCat]

This actually sold the game for me, World Tour wasn't great and neither was Smash Hits, but two big music game platforms sitting next to each other on my shelf sounds pretty nice. That, and the GH5 setlist looks pretty damn good.

[kingtonyx]

Smash Hits was crap.
Songs were good, but buying a collection of songs we might still have on GH 1,2,3 for $50-$60?
Really?!?!

no bass on GH1
only bass in GH2 or 3 if you were playing multiplayer or practice
no vocals or drums on any of those games...

[ThunderCurls]

SMASH HITS WAS CRAP

Oh don't mind me! I thought I'd just jump on the wagon aswell.

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

GUITAR HERO IS AWESOME NEVER MIND THE FLAWS

Oh don't mind me! I thought I'd just jump on the wagon aswell. :smug:

[ThunderCurls]

GUITAR HERO IS AWESOME NEVER MIND THE FLAWS

Oh don't mind me! I thought I'd just jump on the wagon aswell. :smug:

I've never ridden in a wagon that didn't exist before. Be sure to let us know how it was!

[LinkStrifeLeonhart]

I've never ridden in a wagon that didn't exist before. Be sure to let us know how it was!

It seems to me that "anti-bandwagon" sentiments are a bandwagon as well.

Then again, it doesn't seem to matter how well reasoned the response is, if you don't like Guitar Hero then you're a Rock Band fanboy. It's almost as if people can't disagree with design decisions or something.

[Pwnz0r3d]

no bass on GH1
only bass in GH2 or 3 if you were playing multiplayer or practice
no vocals or drums on any of those games...

And i applaude Neversoft and Activision for doing so, but the way they did it was just not right.
DLC should've been the way to go

[xXjAmEZXx]

And i applaude Neversoft and Activision for doing so, but the way they did it was just not right.
DLC should've been the way to go

no. on disc is cheaper is much cheaper than dlc and with export it saves money for the consumer. unless you only want a small handful of those songs.

[gosox333]

I'm worried about what they meant when they said "some" :(

Still good news, though. And I was just aboot to sell GH:GH too...

[mateen110]

at least neversoft cares about ps3 players...

inb4flame/lock/closed thread

[Elegy]

Or maybe Microsoft just doesn't care to pony up more money for an inferior product.

Blame Son'y apathy towards exclusive benefits, not HMX for taking advantage of good deals from Microsoft.

[bmaninc]

Its a big step. Well done.

[gosox333]

Or maybe Microsoft just doesn't care to pony up more money for an inferior product.

Blame Son'y apathy towards exclusive benefits, not HMX for taking advantage of good deals from Microsoft.

No. I think I'll blame the latter, thank you very much.

[Elegy]

Well okay then.

[gosox333]

Just found this on Scorehero.

http://twitter.com/GuitarHero/status/3236734278

VERY interesting....

[Elegy]

Perhaps Guitar Hero 5 and Band Hero bundled together?

[gosox333]

Perhaps Guitar Hero 5 and Band Hero bundled together?

That's EXACTLY what I'm worried about. They don't clearly state which two games they're reffering to....

[CrazyIvan]

That's EXACTLY what I'm worried about. They don't clearly state which two games they're reffering to....

It doesn't, but I also doubt it's a combo of GH5 and Band Hero. 85 + 65 = 150, which would leave 18 songs unaccounted for. With them both being new games, I doubt there would be that much of an import problem between the two if they were going to boast "one EPIC offer".

I would imagine they are going to bundle GHWT and GH5 together.

[GNRrockslife]

Horn charts on Superstition = FAIL!!! I give the game a chance, but I can say I won't be buying it at this point, it's just beyond the point of being fun. But it is cool Johnny Cash will be playable.

Despite my negativity towards GH5, I'm still patiently awaiting GH:VH...

[ThunderCurls]

Horn charts on Superstition = FAIL!!! I give the game a chance, but I can say I won't be buying it at this point, it's just beyond the point of being fun. But it is cool Johnny Cash will be playable.

So not playing anything is more fun than playing something? Oh yeah I totally get what you mean...

[HeyRiles]

I did some number crunching, and the only two games that combined add up to 132 are Guitar Hero: Smash Hits, and, uh...

...Rock Band 2

[Jaden-San]

Oh, bull@#$%.... They weren't the fir.... oh wait.. first in THAT franchise... okay... *puts the C-4 away*

......Still pisses me off...

[toad3000]

This may already be posted on here, but I haven't seen it yet.
From the IGN article on importing songs:
"Can I only import some songs?
On Xbox 360 and PS3, you must import all of the disc-based songs in one step. On Wii, you must purchase the package, but can then import only the songs you want. On all platforms, you are free to delete individual tracks or re-import them at no cost after purchasing it once."
This is great news. If Neversoft can figure out how to delete individual tracks on the PS3, maybe HMX can too. The challenge is on...

[kingtonyx]

It doesn't, but I also doubt it's a combo of GH5 and Band Hero. 85 + 65 = 150, which would leave 18 songs unaccounted for. With them both being new games, I doubt there would be that much of an import problem between the two if they were going to boast "one EPIC offer".

I would imagine they are going to bundle GHWT and GH5 together.

that would be 172 songs, certainly not 132

[Ralphy2009]

Maybe it's just me, but am I the only one who noticed that they said nothing about how compatible future GH:WT/GH5 DLC would be? Are they going to just stop providing GH:WT DLC and make it only GH5 DLC from now on so that GH:WT users won't get anymore songs and will have to buy GH5 to get new DLC? That certainly wouldn't be in line with a platform philosophy at all. Oh yeah, it's starting with GH5, even though they started actually implementing cross-compatibility between multiple games before GH:WT was even released.

I didn't feel the need to create a new thread about this news, but it was just confirmed that GH:WT users will have to buy GH5 just to keep getting new DLC now (since GH:WT DLC is over and GH5 DLC will not work in GH:WT). That's pretty lame.

http://kotaku.com/5343301/guitar-hero-5-dlc-incompatible-with-world-tour

[jonoo24]

I didn't feel the need to create a new thread about this news, but it was just confirmed that GH:WT users will have to buy GH5 just to keep getting new DLC now (since GH:WT DLC is over and GH5 DLC will not work in GH:WT). That's pretty lame.

http://kotaku.com/5343301/guitar-hero-5-dlc-incompatible-with-world-tour

HAHAhahaHAHAHAHhahahaaaahaahaha.

GH5 is now the "platform". ghwt is just a spin-off game now.

[kiggidykev]

Really, they're stopping the GH:WT DLC altogether to concentrate on GH5? That would be a real ass move, forcing people to upgrade to keep buying songs online.

[jonoo24]

Really, they're stopping the GH:WT DLC altogether to concentrate on GH5? That would be a real ass move, forcing people to upgrade to keep buying songs online.

Yep, it's now GH5 DLC. You want stones? Go buy GH5.

Dick move.

[gosox333]

I don't think it'll matter very much. Most people that actually buy GH DLC will probably end up buying GH5 down the line.

Either way, this won't affect me, so I don't really care.

[afterstasis]

I don't think it'll matter very much. Most people that actually buy GH DLC will probably end up buying GH5 down the line.

Either way, this won't affect me, so I don't really care.

yeah, it's likely a bummer for some folks, but i suspect at least 90% of the GH DLC buying population will be getting GH5 anyhow.

[packerfan8675309]

yeah but but Harmonix stole the beginner mode from World Tour for RB: Lego and the countdown after Pause for Beatles.

bawwwww!

I really dont understand why you come to the Rock Band forums. You are obviously swayed to the Guitar Hero side, just stay over there and enjoy your platry DLC offerings. I admit I am a Rock Band fan boy, but at the same time Im not constantly on the Guitar Hero forums talking about how Rock Band is better. To conclude this: Things that Guitar Hero has stolen from Harmonix.

They stole the Guitar Hero franchise, they stole the idea to make a full band game, they stole the idea to have unison bonuses, they stole the idea to have backwards compatibly, they stole the idea to have individual star power, and they stole the idea to save band members after failing, the list goes on.

[ArmsAreLoud]

They stole the Guitar Hero franchise[1], they stole the idea to make a full band game[2], they stole the idea to have unison bonuses[3], they stole the idea to have backwards compatibly[4], they stole the idea to have individual star power[5], and they stole the idea to save band members after failing[6], the list goes on.
1. Activision has the rights to it, and Red Octane made the idea. They were only letting Harmonix be the developer.
2. Yes, because clearly Harmonix came up with the idea to have different instruments work in the same game.
3. I'll give you this one, but good ideas are meant to be borrowed.
4. See #3.
5. They tried to do otherwise, but people wouldn't stop complaining. They did it to make the fans happy.
6. Neversoft does it differently, though, in a way that doesn't screw over bands with a vocalist and, say, a guitarist in a song such as, say, Panic Attack. I think they improved on the system.

Also, I could have sworn I remembered a guy named Packerfan at the GHC who was a major Rock Band fanboy, but meh.

[masterantonio]

"Guitar Hero 5 will be the first in the franchise to feature forward compatibility of songs from past games"

This is an outright lie, that IGN's Erik Brudvig had the gaw to print as fact. I guess he is such a fanboy of GH, or he is so clueless, that he ignored that RB did this already.

I think he deserves some emails letting him know which franchise was first and how we feel about his false statement.

"First in the franchise", last I checked Rock Band isn't part of the Guitar Hero Franchise.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Sarge had a reading fail.

[toymachineSH]

I really dont understand why you come to the Rock Band forums. You are obviously swayed to the Guitar Hero side, just stay over there and enjoy your platry DLC offerings. I admit I am a Rock Band fan boy, but at the same time Im not constantly on the Guitar Hero forums talking about how Rock Band is better. To conclude this: Things that Guitar Hero has stolen from Harmonix.

They stole the Guitar Hero franchise, they stole the idea to make a full band game, they stole the idea to have unison bonuses, they stole the idea to have backwards compatibly, they stole the idea to have individual star power, and they stole the idea to save band members after failing, the list goes on.

I was being facetious but cool story bro

[Bullseye]

GH:WT was a failed design, so it's no surprise that GH5 (aka GH:WT 2.0) would be the new format. Sucks to be a GH devotee, but hey, that crowd should be used to getting the shaft (GH2 guitar not compatible with GH1, GH80s only on PS2, GH3 not compatible w/ GH 2 DLC, GH:WT not supporting GH3 material, GH:WT being mediocre compared to RB2, lack of consistent DLC, GH:M not compatible with anything).

Nah, it's just as well that GH:WT dies off as GH5 looks like it fixes most of the problems, and is setup to do what the RB franchise has done all along and be a music playing platform. For this, I'll buy into it and then get the best of both games, which comes down to what songs go to what game. There's a lot of the same songs featured in both RB and GH, but it's looking like certain artists/labels/etc are signing exclusive deals to one or the other (VH, Metallica, Hendrix appear to be GH only, and of course the Beatles and AC/DC went to the standalone RB discs). As for the naysayers, stick to RB2, as it's still the King of rock games, but I don't mind cashing in on the "other" brand as it looks like it might have some potential finally.

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

35 out of 84 songs transfer.

Some indeed.

Oi.

About a girl - Nirvana
Are you gonna go my way - Lenny Kravitz
Band on the Run - Wings
Damnit - Blink 182
Demolition Man - Sting
Do it Again - Steely Dan
Everlong - Foo Fighters (handy for a chord based bonus challenge for ESP sponsor gig!)
Heartbreaker - Pat Benatar
Hollywood nights - Bob Seger and the silver bullet band
The Joker - The Steve Miller Band
The Kill - 30 Seconds to Mars
L'Via L'Viaquez - The Mars Volta
Lazy Eye - Silversun Pickups
Livin' on a Prayer - Bon Jovi
Love Spreads -The Stone Roses
The Middle - Jimmy Eat World
Never Too Late - The Answer
No Sleep Til Brooklyn - Beastie Boys
Obstacle 1 - Interpol
One Armed Scissor - At the Drive-In
One Way or Another - Blondie
Our Truth - Lacuna Coil
Overkill - Motorhead
Re-Education Through Labor - Rise Against
Santeria - Sublime
Shiver - Coldplay
Soul Doubt - Nofx
Spiderwebs - No Doubt
Stillborn - Black Label Society
Stranglehold - Ted Nugent
Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Today - Smashing Pumpkins
Toy Boy - Stuck in the sound
Up around the Bend - Creedence
You're gonna say yeah - Hushpuppies

[General Lein979]

35 out of 84 songs transfer.

Some indeed.

Oi.

About a girl - Nirvana
Are you gonna go my way - Lenny Kravitz
Band on the Run - Wings
Damnit - Blink 182
Demolition Man - Sting
Do it Again - Steely Dan
Everlong - Foo Fighters (handy for a chord based bonus challenge for ESP sponsor gig!)
Heartbreaker - Pat Benatar
Hollywood nights - Bob Seger and the silver bullet band
The Joker - The Steve Miller Band
The Kill - 30 Seconds to Mars
L'Via L'Viaquez - The Mars Volta
Lazy Eye - Silversun Pickups
Livin' on a Prayer - Bon Jovi
Love Spreads -The Stone Roses
The Middle - Jimmy Eat World
Never Too Late - The Answer
No Sleep Til Brooklyn - Beastie Boys
Obstacle 1 - Interpol
One Armed Scissor - At the Drive-In
One Way or Another - Blondie
Our Truth - Lacuna Coil
Overkill - Motorhead
Re-Education Through Labor - Rise Against
Santeria - Sublime
Shiver - Coldplay
Soul Doubt - Nofx
Spiderwebs - No Doubt
Stillborn - Black Label Society
Stranglehold - Ted Nugent
Sweet Home Alabama - Lynyrd Skynyrd
Today - Smashing Pumpkins
Toy Boy - Stuck in the sound
Up around the Bend - Creedence
You're gonna say yeah - HushpuppiesPaul Mccartny but no muse? That's weird as F.

[coescastle]

This may be a partial list, Activision hasn't confirmed this yet and they are still working on the licensing as we speak.

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

I hope so Toy, because if this is their idea of importing a disc, I'm really disappointed.

[gosox333]

Sigh, I guess we just have to take what we can get. They at least managed to get most of the bigger songs....

I suppose $3.50 for 35 songs is still one helluva deal, but I can't help but feel disappointed. RB spoiled me.

[toymachineSH]

double u ehm Geee

[ThunderCurls]

This may be a partial list, Activision hasn't confirmed this yet and they are still working on the licensing as we speak.

Correct, there will be more tracks available.

[Bullseye]

Let's hope. 35 is a disappointing start. Especially since the majority are already on RB, and my main interest in GH5 is in getting those songs/artists that haven't appeared in RB yet.

[Indraco]

Yeah, with Matt and Haley signed on as avatars for games in the series, it's likely that Muse and Paramore will join the export list soon enough.

[BigJAG2004]

Match GH:WT up against GH, GH2, GH3, RB, RB2, and you think World Tour has a better setlist than any of those?
I think it does.

Satch Boogie, Pull Me Under, Crazy Train, Hot For Teacher, Monsoon, Overkill and above all PRISONER OF SOCIETY!

Those songs their make the game. IMO GH3 had the worst setlist.

[BigJAG2004]

I really dont understand why you come to the Rock Band forums. You are obviously swayed to the Guitar Hero side, just stay over there and enjoy your platry DLC offerings. I admit I am a Rock Band fan boy, but at the same time Im not constantly on the Guitar Hero forums talking about how Rock Band is better. To conclude this: Things that Guitar Hero has stolen from Harmonix.
Toymachine isn't saying anything about Guitar Hero being better. He supports both sides of the fence and wants peace. He comes to the Rock Band forums because he likes Rock Band, but he also likes Guitar Hero. He is only pointing out that you guys are Hippocrytes that Rock Band steal ideas from Guitar Hero and you guys are fine with it, but when Guitar Hero does it to Rock Band you guys are all like "FAIL, YOU GUYS SUCK, GET YOUR OWN IDEAS". When clearly Guitar Hero has many, many great ideas (open notes, expert+ for drums and a nice range of hyperspeed instead of just turning it on or off). Both games have a fair battle to the top, if you don't like the games, don't buy them, and don't bad mouth it when Rock Band is doing the same thing on a different subject.

[voodoo618]

He is only pointing out that you guys are Hippocrytes that Rock Band steal ideas from Guitar Hero and you guys are fine with it...

You lost me there. I was laughing too hard.

Especially from "hippocrytes".

[BigJAG2004]

You lost me there. I was laughing too hard.

Especially from "hippocrytes".

I dunno how to spell it. Just making a point.

[voodoo618]

I dunno how to spell it. Just making a point.

Ok then, why does toymachine post Guitar Hero related things on a Rock Band forum? Can't we just go to the Guitar Hero forum by ourselves if we really wanted to know what's up?

[jonoo24]

Toymachine isn't saying anything about Guitar Hero being better. He supports both sides of the fence and wants peace. He comes to the Rock Band forums because he likes Rock Band, but he also likes Guitar Hero. He is only pointing out that you guys are Hippocrytes that Rock Band steal ideas from Guitar Hero and you guys are fine with it, but when Guitar Hero does it to Rock Band you guys are all like "FAIL, YOU GUYS SUCK, GET YOUR OWN IDEAS". When clearly Guitar Hero has many, many great ideas (open notes, expert+ for drums and a nice range of hyperspeed instead of just turning it on or off). Both games have a fair battle to the top, if you don't like the games, don't buy them, and don't bad mouth it when Rock Band is doing the same thing on a different subject.

lol

[toymachineSH]

hippo crites!

I have had people say they appreciate knowing about the GH stuff going on because they dislike visiting other forums. If you don't like reading about it don't click on the discussion. Much like I don't care about weird news or the werewolf game.

[BigJAG2004]

Ok then, why does toymachine post Guitar Hero related things on a Rock Band forum? Can't we just go to the Guitar Hero forum by ourselves if we really wanted to know what's up?
This is why he posted this in a board called Off Topic.

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

I don't mind reading about it.

Just like I don't mind reading about RB related stuff over on the GH forums.

[kiggidykev]

I did the export last night and about 45 songs from GHWT were carried over

[Thirdkoopa]

I did the export last night and about 45 songs from GHWT were carried over
Which ones?
And of course not all will export on day one as we've heard.

[kiggidykev]

Which ones?
And of course not all will export on day one as we've heard.

I'm afraid I had to return my early rental copy this morning, but the Hendrix and Tool tracks were notably absent

[Thirdkoopa]

I'm afraid I had to return my early rental copy this morning, but the Hendrix and Tool tracks were notably absent
Did It have Obstacle 1, Love Me Two Times, and Re-Education Through Labor? Those are the three I want to export the most. ;_; Oh only a few days.

[kiggidykev]

Did It have Obstacle 1, Love Me Two Times, and Re-Education Through Labor? Those are the three I want to export the most. ;_; Oh only a few days.

I'm sorry, I only scrolled through the list quickly to count how many. The only ones I remember for sure were the ones at the top: About A Girl, and Are You Gonna Go My Way

[Thirdkoopa]

I'm sorry, I only scrolled through the list quickly to count how many. The only ones I remember for sure were the ones at the top: About A Girl, and Are You Gonna Go My Way
Well, at least those two were pretty good. Thanks for officially confirming those kinggidykev!:D

[mbnasir6]

He hasnt officially confirmed until we get a picture or video.

NEWS:
On the new GH website it says, almost all GH2 and GH3 DLC will work with GH5 and Band Hero. THAT IS BIG!

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

He hasnt officially confirmed until we get a picture or video.

NEWS:
On the new GH website it says, almost all GH2 and GH3 DLC will work with GH5 and Band Hero. THAT IS BIG!


I'm pretty sure that's a glitch in the system.

Look at the release date of some of this DLC.

Some of it says 1/09/09.

Meaning it's been out for 7 months.

So there's something wrong over there.

[kiggidykev]

Went into the Xbox's memory tab and saw that the GHWT songs are all saved in one big file on the hard drive. That means no individual deleting, but I suppose that one could always just use GH5's "make a setlist" feature to edit out the disiked songs.

[ThatAuthoringGroup]

It was a glitch.

It's now fixed and none of the old GH2 or GH3 games say they are compatible with GH5.

[forrest99]

i think it has always has been stupid that you have to pay a fee to get past songs on the game.

[hshizzle]

Speaking of the new GH website, looks like some parts of the company didn't get the memo that "importing" between versions is important. Without warning, they nuked the old GH site (including all private forums and post histories) and started over from scratch with the new site. Yikes!

[darkversion]

personally i think GH is killing the music game genra....seriously GH5,Bandhero,dj hero....vanhalen...toooo much, theres been over 13 GH games since its first release in 05' and its all the same stuff. they need to work on there DLC!!!instead of releasing sooooo many games

[ThunderCurls]

personally i think GH is killing the music game genra....seriously GH5,Bandhero,dj hero....vanhalen...toooo much, theres been over 13 GH games since its first release in 05' and its all the same stuff. they need to work on there DLC!!!instead of releasing sooooo many games

I doubt making Music Games will kill the Music Game genre...