Who is the better shredder? Eddie Van Halen OR Buckethead?

[Tokarev449]

So I was thinking one day...
Who is the better guitarist? Eddie Van Halen OR Buckethead?
I thought to myself, I can't decide!! :confused:

So I made this thread to see what you all think.... :)

Try out the poll above or just post your opinions on which one of these rock legends should be top dog....

Also include why you chose either guitarist....thank you....

Check out these links:
Buckethead shred - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaCErlW-3p8

Eddie Van Halen solo - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z_lwocmL9dQ

[Skittles]

Eddie

[Bub]

What a dumb question. Eddie easily.

[gmarsh]

Eddie, it's not even a contest.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Eddie was the first Shredder. He wins.

[tridentgum0]

I voted Buckethead mainly because I dislike VH as a band.

[JukeBoxHero]

Buckethead, I like the tonal quality in his playing.

[supernova1324]

Not a fan of either, but Buckethead wins by a little.

[classicrockdude]

Randy Rhoads

[Tokarev449]

So not a lot of Buckethead fans I see...
I understand since Eddie came first (plus songs like "Spanish Fly" are INSANE!!)....
Yet Buckethead is also proficient in playing the bass guitar > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIwi916Q588

BTW this video is little...different....

[JukeBoxHero]

He has great left hand technique, and while there is some cool stuff going when he does play bass, I don't believe he's very proficient at making good bass lines from what I heard.

[Tokarev449]

He has great left hand technique, and while there is some cool stuff going when he does play bass, I don't believe he's very proficient at making good bass lines from what I heard.

True that; Buckethead's forte is the electric guitar....
He can do some cool things on the bass.

[JukeBoxHero]

True that; Buckethead's forte is the electric guitar....
But you have to admit he can do some cool things on the bass.

I did, read a little bit closer. ;) There is some cool stuff going on there, but it gets lost in translation in the overall piece.

[Tokarev449]

I did, read a little bit closer. ;) There is some cool stuff going on there, but it gets lost in translation in the overall piece.

Sorry, I need to read the entire post more often.... :o my mistake....

[Teh_Jakester]

Rhandy Rhodes

Psst; it's not clever when you can't spell the guitarist's last name (or first name, for that matter).

[classicrockdude]

Psst; it's not clever when you can't spell the guitarist's last name (or first name, for that matter).

oops

[rowtheboat]

What a dumb question.Buckethead easily

[back_blows]

For a minute, I thought it read Eddie Vedder.

[Evilbottom]

I voted Buckethead, just because I actually enjoy his music. My vote puts it at 10-10. Seems like people are evenly divided on this subject.

[Rockbandfan23467]

The Orignal Shredder isn't winning?

[MrFruitLord]

Don't really like either, but I hate Van Halen, so Buckethead wins.

[RandomBrandon]

Randy Rhoads

You are the coolest guy on the planet for saying that

Its Eddie as a shredder but as guitarist its Buckethead because almost every solo from Eddie uses taping, Buckethead uses more styles, but I,m not saying Ed is a bad guitarist.

[WhiffleBallTony]

Buckethead is faster. However, all shredders owe their playing to Eddie.

[Teh_Jakester]

You are the coolest guy on the planet for saying that.

I totally would have said that if I hated both, but I actually like EVH, sorry

[DrewLee865]

I love how all someone has to do is die to get on the best ever lists. Randy Rhoads was nothing special.

[Teh_Jakester]

I love how all someone has to do is die to get on the best ever lists. Randy Rhoads was nothing special.

wat (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xenPlzAt3BI)

[classicrockdude]

I love how all someone has to do is die to get on the best ever lists. Randy Rhoads was nothing special.

wtf

[GNRrockslife]

Eddie was the first Shredder. He wins.

Actually, Dick Dale was the first shredder.

On topic, I take a null vote. Technically, Buckethead is faster, but EVH comes up with better melodies while shredding instead of just mindless wankery. I also love EVH's tone, it's probably my favorite tone of all time. That being said I do indeed love both guitarists.

[clashcityrocker10]

I prefer Van Halen's work, so I voted for him.

[ArmsAreLoud]

I voted Buckethead, but the gap between the two is rather negligible.

[polishdog90]

As a fan of both, I say Buckethead. He is one of the few people that I define as a melodic/emotional shredder. Just check this song out: Melodic/Emotional Shredding (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8akmP6Sjv2o&fmt=18)

[Onslaught_fei]

Bucket Van Headlan

[xX_Sandman_Xx]

Eddie's good, but I think Buckethead is a lot better. I love Whitewash and Jordan.

[FATALISTSi]

ok... why do people compare these two like this the obvious winner is buckethead he is a far better shredder than van halen...yes van halen was first and without him there may not be a buckethead...but the question is who is a better shredder not who was the first shredder or who influenced the most ppl or invented tapping, etc. its who is the best technically...and anyone who watches one lick of bucketheads vs van halens knows its buckethead

[Lameboy19]

Paul Gilbert beats both

[franticfish]

Bucket Van Headlan
Win.

I voted Buckethead, I just like the dudes music a lot more than I do Van Halen.

[Rocket2Russia]

Don't really like either, but I hate Van Halen, so Buckethead wins.

This.

[Mega-Tallica]

I have a feeling I'm going to regret this, but Eddie Van Halen is slightly, just slightly, overrated. Just because he was the "pioneer" of shred guitar, doesn't mean he is better than everybody else. Buckethead is a lot more technical and better than Van Halen. Buckethead wins.

[Rocket2Russia]

I have a feeling I'm going to regret this, but Eddie Van Halen is slightly, just slightly, overrated.

I feel that, had he been in a band that didn't suck, he could have become a guitarist worthy of the heaps and heaps of praise that he gets. As was, the rest of the sound that is played around him for every song he played but "Eruption" really hurt my opinion of him.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Herman Li. In all honesty he is a good guitarist, it's just that Dragonforce sucks balls. He's pretty underrated IMO.

Back on topic; Van Halen, I never really liked Buckethead.

[Tank9088]

Buckethead's tribute to Michael Jackson is incredibly good.

[Rocket2Russia]

Buckethead's tribute to Michael Jackson is incredibly good.

This is true.

[Mega-Tallica]

Herman Li. In all honesty he is a good guitarist, it's just that Dragonforce sucks balls. He's pretty underrated IMO.

Back on topic; Van Halen, I never really liked Buckethead.

Different people say different things about Herman Li. Really the only he's got for him is that he plays fast, and that's about it. He doesn't have much technique and he plays with virtually no "feeling" or "soul". My impression of Herman Li is that he just plays fast and everybody thinks he's a guitar god. Not taking anything away from him, he's got incredible skill, but he doesn't match up with many of the great guitarists of our time.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

Different people say different things about Herman Li. Really the only he's got for him is that he plays fast, and that's about it. He doesn't have much technique and he plays with virtually no "feeling" or "soul". My impression of Herman Li is that he just plays fast and everybody thinks he's a guitar god. Not taking anything away from him, he's got incredible skill, but he doesn't match up with many of the great guitarists of our time.

That's pretty much the way I feel, he's underrated and overrated at the same time. Some people think he's too good, but like you said a lot of people think he just plays fast. He can pick fast and his solos are pretty skillful if you ask me, but he's lacking soul and feel like you said. If you asked me who the best "shredder" overall was I would say John Petrucci, and I'm putting emphasis on the word shredder.

Watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSChdfAzbqg) the last 2:00 minutes or so, starting at 8:05.

[I_Use_Shamwows]

EVH was a great shredder, and one that most looked up to, but ****, I like Buckethead's technique alot more.

[Meyernltn]

Like others before me have already said, I'm gonna go with Randy Rhoads.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Why is that freak of nature winning against the orignal shredder?

[xjadeskylinex]

i vote Buckethead , but both are very good.

[polishdog90]

Why is that freak of nature winning against the orignal shredder?

Buckethead is winning because he is a freak of nature!

[TheCrimsonSaint]

Is "shredders annoy the **** out of me" an acceptable answer?

[Mega-Tallica]

That's pretty much the way I feel, he's underrated and overrated at the same time. Some people think he's too good, but like you said a lot of people think he just plays fast. He can pick fast and his solos are pretty skillful if you ask me, but he's lacking soul and feel like you said. If you asked me who the best "shredder" overall was I would say John Petrucci, and I'm putting emphasis on the word shredder.

Watch (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KSChdfAzbqg) the last 2:00 minutes or so, starting at 8:05.

I play guitar and I idolize John Petrucci. But almost the same thing goes for him, he's got no soul when playing. He's like a freaking robot. He uses too much technique. The only real time he's shown some actual guitar feel is on his solo album Suspended Animation. Search Glasgow Kiss on youtube. This is John Petrucci at his best.

[Mega-Tallica]

Buckethead is winning because he is a freak of nature!

No need to explain, just watch it.;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=86DEKFissl4

He's a freak, but damn he's good.

[Lithuanian_Boy]

I play guitar and I idolize John Petrucci. But almost the same thing goes for him, he's got no soul when playing. He's like a freaking robot. He uses too much technique. The only real time he's shown some actual guitar feel is on his solo album Suspended Animation. Search Glasgow Kiss on youtube. This is John Petrucci at his best.

His earlier stuff had a lot of feel. In the video I posted he's tearing it up and he still looks like he's having a good time. At their concert this summer he looked like he had Lou Gehrigs while playing a solo in everything but his fingers and arms.

[Bub]

Somebody close this thread I'm sick of seeing the ignorant title. So stupid.

[SynesterSeX]

Buckethead

I personally love his technique and originality in playing the guitar. His solos (to me) are simply mind blowing. Nuff said O:

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

Evh

[gmarsh]

buckethead is beating eddie? seriously?

[Rocket2Russia]

buckethead is beating eddie? seriously?

Weird how the better shredder is winning a better shredder poll. :rolleyes:

[LaLimonada]

I personally wouldn't really consider either shredders, perse.

Buckethead abuses the killswitch, EVH just happened to popularize two hand tapping.

hmm

Now Brian Setzer.....:cool:

[CyanFunk]

...Steve Vai

[Mega-Tallica]

buckethead is beating eddie? seriously?

The poll question is who is the better shredder? Buckethead is clearly the better shredder of the two. Just because EVH was one of the originators of 'shred' guitar doesn't mean he automatically wins every poll.

[SynesterSeX]

The poll question is who is the better shredder? Buckethead is clearly the better shredder of the two. Just because EVH was one of the originators of 'shred' guitar doesn't mean he automatically wins every poll.

This ^

[Mandala]

Buckethead...he's not only the better shredder, but you got to be pretty freakin' good to play alongside Les Claypool.

[Alright_Computer]

Neither, it's Al di Meola.

[afterstasis]

easily the best shredder of all time... (http://www.factory-express.com/images/inventory/shredder-collage11.jpg)

[Snitsky]

Eddie Van Halen imo , he doesn't ruin his shredding with a perverse over usage of effect pedals

[BombThatDeadGuy]

Eddie was the best shredder of the 80's however I think Buckethead is better due to he has more diversity in playing the guitar, from something slow and peacefull Padmasana to something more fast and heavy like Bontus.

But everyone is wrong so far as who the best shredder is. It should be Michael Angelo Baito
Here's one of his best especially the ending
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qG74eVb6V10

Plus the guy plays 2-4 guitars at a time, anyways as far as EVH and Buckethead goes Buckethead is better for me

[Teh_Jakester]

But everyone is wrong so far as who the best shredder is. It should be Michael Angelo Baito

...
You can not tell, but I am glaring at this post. Glaring harder than I have ever glared before.

[LaLimonada]

...
Glaring harder than I have ever glared before.

Glare harder, big boy.

Anyway, yeah, EVH is more shreddy, where as Buckethead is more Wanky.

Although they have both have their wanking moments.

[Lokifiregod]

EVH easily no one comes close

[Rockbandfan23467]

Neither, it's Al di Meola.

Not a shredder, he's not Metal.

[back_blows]

Not a shredder, he's not Metal.

And EVH is metal?

[Teh_Jakester]

And EVH is metal?

Stop! You're gonna make him short-circuit!

[Rockbandfan23467]

And EVH is metal?

Yes.

[Teh_Jakester]

Yes.

See, you just made him short-circuit! Look what you've done! I'll get the mop...

[back_blows]

Yes.

Please stop.

[LightningBolt]

I love Van Halen, but I voted Bucket as his style is a lot more creative while still having the same (if not more) technical prowess.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

And EVH is metal?

Onslaught says VH is metal, but they are not even close.

[Rockbandfan23467]

See, you just made him short-circuit! Look what you've done! I'll get the mop...

What do you mean?

[Teh_Jakester]

What do you mean?

See, he doesn't even understand simple remarks! I may need to get the spatula...

[Alright_Computer]

Not a shredder, he's not Metal.

Please, just stop.

[AKALink]

Go Go Power Rangers, I pick buckethead.

[NwYrkStofMnd]

i can't believe Buckethead is actually winning in this poll.... EVH all day!

[SolarFlare]

Sorry But Buckethead wins this. I love his style.... Can't wait for his DLC....

[RHCPgroupie42]

this is so not even close. Eddie