No fills. No whammy.

[HyeJinx1984]

From the "The Beatles: Rock Band" wikipedia page:

"A slight variation from the drum Overdrive activation method in other Rock Band games is the exclusion of a drum fill section, provided to allow drummers to perform their own fills before striking the Overdrive note. Another small change was made for guitars: while moving the whammy bar will still fill the Beatlemania meter during a sustained note, the pitch of the note will not be altered."

Your take? Most obviously, the beatles don't mind their music being in the game, as long as it isn't "altered" during play. So making up your own fills or whammying the sound would certainly do that. Who knows, maybe it was a struggle just to get them to allow letting notes to note be heard when the player messes up.

Edit: I know I know, there's another thread. I'm sorry!

[Theenditaint]

Im glad that the notes will no longer be distorted if you whammy them. Now I will be able to get those extra points without messing with the Beatles songs. I also like the chnage in the drum fills. Instead of hitting anything you want, the fill sections will now be tracked with notes so you play it the EXACT same way Ringo did.

[chrth_rb]

Why would you want to alter Beatles songs?

Also, drum fills will be in the game; you just have to play them the way Ringo did

[Aragorn123]

Im glad that the notes will no longer be distorted if you whammy them. Now I will be able to get those extra points without messing with the Beatles songs. I also like the chnage in the drum fills. Instead of hitting anything you want, the fill sections will now be tracked with notes so you play it the EXACT same way Ringo did.

You took the words right out of my mouth (hands?).

[broncosfan06]

Im glad that the notes will no longer be distorted if you whammy them. Now I will be able to get those extra points without messing with the Beatles songs. I also like the chnage in the drum fills. Instead of hitting anything you want, the fill sections will now be tracked with notes so you play it the EXACT same way Ringo did.

This pretty much sums it up.

Probably one of the conditions HMX was given when making the game is that the songs cant be distorted from their original version in any way, personally I love it, there are so many songs where overdrive is whammyed and it ruins the sound.

[OakTea]

In RB2 (and probably RB1), it's not very difficult to whammy and get the maximum amount of star power without changing the way the song sounds.

Just move it very lightly, not pushing it all the way down. Just wiggle it very slightly, or even just 'vibrate it' if you can. You'll get the same amount as long as the whammy bar is roughly in motion at all, and it won't affect the sound noticably.

[Frederf]

Any news about the FX switch on the guitars? The Beatles guitar controllers have it so are we going to have Flanger or WahWah during Penny Lane?

[HellishFiend]

Any news about the FX switch on the guitars? The Beatles guitar controllers have it so are we going to have Flanger or WahWah during Penny Lane?

As amusing and/or horrifying as that question is, I'm sure we already know the answer to it. :p The switch is, no doubt, there just to maintain feature compatibility with the RB platform, and not necessarily because they will function in TB:RB.

[Skullfire]

Makes me wonder what happens when you fail a song?

[nbalive2005]

Wow that post really made me happy that they are not using guitar effects.

Penny Lane *wah wah*

that would sound so horrible

[HeadHunter67]

I couldn't even find the effects switch on the image of the Gretsch controller.
I do hope it has one because I'm looking for an RB2 wireless guitar (just got the crummy RB1 wired Strat and GH Les Pauls to use for now) and my wife and I like the look of it better than the Rickenbacker.

[Kiesterman]

The knobby next to the neck is the switch on the Gretsch controller.
That almost sells the guitar for me. A lot harder to accidently turn a knobby when you're shredding a solo than to hit a switch.

[okiran]

I'm glad there's no whammy or guitar effects. In my experience with RB I've found few people who understand the art of the whammy bar.

[Apples]

One time I was dragged into a really lousy public band in online play. The drummer was hogging the song selections and finally decided to close with an encore of "Won't Get Fooled Again"

The bassist and I (guitarist) decided it would be great fun to ruin the song by whammying every sustain and using the most obnoxious guitar effects possible.

It was quite funny, but it sounded terrible. So I'm sorta glad that mess is going away. The whammy can really make things sound bad if you put some effort into it.

[flynlion]

I play mostly drums, and must confess that the "improv fills" are usually my favorite parts of a song. But they can also be kinda annoying when some noob decides to go nuts on every fill and doesn't groove with the rest of the tune.

Those of y'all who have tried the demo, is drumming as much fun without the fills?

[monkeyfish]

I would love me some flanger on Helter Skelter, or some funky wah-wah to Don't Let Me Down. Seems like the best way to make everyone happy would be a extras/bonus options/then a little box to allow whammy or SFX switch in the songs. That way, even if some idiot was going psycho on the whammy online, you wouldn't hear it on your end. Wouldn't that make everyone happy? :D

But it's probably a condition made just to have the Beatle's license not to alter the sound.

[T-Hybrid]

If you consider the reasons they took out the drum fills for the game, it makes sense that you couldn't whammy either. (Or use the effects switch)

You'll also note you can't freestyle with the drums before and after the song. Further proof that they were handed a very strict set of rules about what could and could not be done with the music.

[Renrock]

They believe the music was already perfect, and worked really hard to keep it pure and faithful to the original master recordings.

(that was the paraphrased answer HMXHenry gave me @ E3 when I asked about the drumfills etc.)

[HeadHunter67]

The knobby next to the neck is the switch on the Gretsch controller.
Thanks, I was wondering if that might be.


A lot harder to accidently turn a knobby when you're shredding a solo than to hit a switch.
True, and that's a good thing. But it also is probably even more difficult to change mid-song than the switch would be. I know there's times I've realized that I should have a different effect set for a song, or even wanted to change it while playing. I can sometimes manage it with the switch, but I imagine I'll have fewer opportunities with the knob.

Regardless, what matters is that it does indeed have an effects selector for the times I'll use it in RB2. It's such a nice looking guitar and it's very similar to the one my character uses already. Can't wait to get my hands on one!

[Headcase]

My take is that if "whammying" should not increase your Beatlemania meter if it doesn't change the sound of the instrument. Just have more star sections. All it'll do is confuse newcomers and I never really saw it as a good feature anyway. Too late now but I'm surprised they came to that decision.

[itsmemjg]

My take is that if "whammying" should not increase your Beatlemania meter if it doesn't change the sound of the instrument. Just have more star sections. All it'll do is confuse newcomers and I never really saw it as a good feature anyway. Too late now but I'm surprised they came to that decision.

in most cases whammying is what makes the difference on the leaderboards more overdrive = higher scores

[T-Hybrid]

My take is that if "whammying" should not increase your Beatlemania meter if it doesn't change the sound of the instrument. Just have more star sections. All it'll do is confuse newcomers and I never really saw it as a good feature anyway.
How would it confuse newcomers if they have nothing from before to get confused with?

[Jesus_and_the_E_St_Band]

w/e ringo does some sweet fills anyways...

why did the beatles "hate" him?