The Current State of Album Dreamscape Thought

[chrth_rb]

The original supposition for Album Dreamscape came from the end of the SPLHCB/LHFMF video, because it looked like the balloon was going into the night sky ... but then returned to the studio, so it appeared there was a dual end programmed, one for quickplay, one for an album dreamscape.

However, we now know that LitSwD is actually on disc, and we know that there is now a chapter challenge mode. This throws two hitches into the album dreamscape idea. First off, the original "evidence" is now tainted, as we now have to presume that what looked like a continuation into LitSwD as album dreamscape is actually part of the chapter challenge.

The second hitch is the extra work required to do album dreamscape. Chapter challenges mode would have to have a transition from Getting Better to whatever follows (either Within You Without You/Tomorrow Never Knows or Good Morning Good Morning, most likely). Album dreamscape would require that another transition needs to be added to the end of Getting Better to lead into Fixing a Hole. WYWY/TNK or GMGM would then need a second intro to bind it to whatever preceding song in the album dreamscape. And then, of course, there's the quickplay intro/outro.

It's not unworkable, of course. But I hesitate to expect that much complicated effort to do album dreamscapes.

(but I hope I'm wrong ;) )

[zepplinmike]

There could be scoring/loading screens between the songs but the dreamscapes could still be connected. Think of it like a commercial break in a tv show.

[chrth_rb]

There could be scoring/loading screens between the songs but the dreamscapes could still be connected. Think of it like a commercial break in a tv show.

The "chapter challenges" (my bad, it's not called chapter mode) is supposed to string all the songs in a chapter together, presumably without a loading screen break.

[juan29zapata]

That would be very cool, maybe there will a more longer loading screen for that, or while playing it will load. Who knows?

[RADIO CHRIS]

good point

[tingly]

If tracks begin and end in Abbey Road, transitions would be a snap. The beginning of the first track and end of the last track are the exceptions.

[IColinoI]

I know this is going to sound bad, but people have to stop shortening the song names. It's annoying and it doesn't save you that much time. I'd even go as far as to say it's offensive towards the works of art that are those songs.

Come on, it doesn't take that long to type "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and it's a forum, no one's going to bash you if it doesn't take less than 3 seconds to type out what you're typing.

[chrth_rb]

If tracks begin and end in Abbey Road, transitions would be a snap. The beginning of the first track and end of the last track are the exceptions.

But I don't think it does end there unless you're in quickplay or story (non- chapter challenge) mode. By all appearances, LitSwD is going to pick up immediately with the balloon in the night sky, with no return to the studio. This could be wrong, but I suspect not.

[tingly]

I don't mind "Pepper", but initials can be more puzzle than readable. (HB? HB??? what could that be? *looks up an alphabetical list of beatle songs* oh, hey bulldog)

[chrth_rb]

I know this is going to sound bad, but people have to stop shortening the song names. It's annoying and it doesn't save you that much time. I'd even go as far as to say it's offensive towards the works of art that are those songs.

Come on, it doesn't take that long to type "Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band" and it's a forum, no one's going to bash you if it doesn't take less than 3 seconds to type out what you're typing.

SPLHCB: 2 seconds

Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band: 9 seconds

PS: Why didn't you spell out "Sergeant"


In all seriousness, it makes it easier to read. I made sure to spell out WYWY/TNK and GMGM the first time so there wouldn't be any confusion, and I would never abbreviate HG or HS, but seriously, there's in nothing wrong with abbreviations. Or do you type out United States of America every time too?

[tingly]

They'd have to have an alternate ending stored somewhere or 2 complete dreamscapes per song, but that would be pretty cool.

I muchly prefer "Pepper/Friends" over SPLHCB/WIHFMF, or "Lucy" instead of LitSwD, tho I didn't have trouble with post #1 above.

[chrth_rb]

They'd have to have an alternate ending stored somewhere or 2 complete dreamscapes per song, but that would be pretty cool.

Well, I wouldn't think you need 2 complete dreamscapes. But any song on disc would need up to 3 intros and 3 outros (exceptions would be those bordering other on-disc songs). I guess the DLC (sorry, downloadable content) would only ever need 2.

Honestly, I think it's the complexity of two separate dreamscape sequences that makes it too much of an effort.

[osteofight]

My language convention is better than your language convention. I vote for portmanteaus: Sgt. Pepper's Friends, and... Lucmonds.

:D

Edit: Why so serious?

[panch321]

PS: Why didn't you spell out "Sergeant"


The name of the album is "Sgt. Pepper's..." not "Sergeant Pepper's..."

THE ISSUE HERE COMES WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO READ A LOT OF CAPITAL LETTERS GROUPED TOGETHER. IT'S ANNOYING, AND CONFUSING!! THAT IS WHY SEEING SPLHCB JUST STABS YOUR EYEBALLS BECAUSE IT THROWS OFF THE FLOW OF ALL THE TEXT

[chrth_rb]

THE ISSUE HERE COMES WITH THE FACT THAT IT IS VERY UNCOMFORTABLE TO READ A LOT OF CAPITAL LETTERS GROUPED TOGETHER. IT'S ANNOYING, AND CONFUSING!! THAT IS WHY SEEING SPLHCB JUST STABS YOUR EYEBALLS BECAUSE IT THROWS OFF THE FLOW OF ALL THE TEXT

I was going to comment on the fact that you're causing the exact some problem you're decrying, but I'm guessing that was your intent. In reality, though, I just find it kind of sad that you are incapable of actually adding to the discussion. Here's a better tip: if you don't like something on the Internet, go somewhere else. There's plenty of places for those who don't like to actually make meaningful contributions.

[tingly]

Don't be sad. Panch is capable. *bearhug* ;)

[JBurton]

Saying that the dreamscapes will be tied together because they all begin and end with Abbey Road just doesn't seem right. All these dreamscapes we've seen they aren't just playing a single instrument. In Back In The USSR (I typed it out, did you notice?), Paul is playing his Hofner. In Birthday, he is playing a guitar? I think. So yeah I dont think they can be tied together.

[theINC]

In Back In The USSR (I typed it out, did you notice?), Paul is playing his Hofner. In Birthday, he is playing a guitar? I think. So yeah I dont think they can be tied together.

Are you sure about that? My judgement of the Back in the USSR video has Paul playing lead guitar and John playing a 6-string bass.

[JBurton]

Are you sure about that? My judgement of the Back in the USSR video has Paul playing lead guitar and John playing a 6-string bass.

I didn't really mean that as truth. Just as an example. Another one, in the end of With a Little Help, John has a purple shirt on with short hair. In Birthday, he looks completely different. All im saying is that there are things that make the music flowing into each other via Abbey Road flawed.

[afolafos]

It's sort of like a white-out fade to studio 2, right? I mean, that could just be cutting off the full album dreamscape... So, maybe an album could be one long animation that's edited for quickplay/chapter challenges with a simple fade. Sounds 'easy enough' from a development standpoint; just add a couple seconds of studio scene to the existing dreamscape...

EDIT: about different guitars and outfits... Is that really a problem? After all, they are dreamscapes... In "Friends" they sporadically jump from playing instruments to singing on the edge of the deck...

[chrth_rb]

The Beatles (White Album) is a different case than either Sgt Pepper or Abbey Road (and probably Yellow Submarine or Magical Mystery Tour). I don't really expect an album dreamscape because the songs sort of still happen in the studio, just with dreamscaped backgrounds. So I think we will see the transition in the studio.

[vcalzone]

I'm more curious as to how elaborate these dreamscapes will be. Can't wait till we find that out. I can't imagine how big a dreamscape would be to download and store, but I'm guessing a lot. As it is, they're 20MB, adding custom backgrounds and costumes (assuming that each character will keep their stock set of movements) would increase that by how much? Let alone if they're done with actual videos.

More official info can't come fast enough. We've got info on songs and a little bit on gameplay, but there really is a LOT we don't know that can't be gleaned by gameplay videos or reviews of game demos.

[chrth_rb]

The third trailer shows Lucy, and they're not in their Sgt. Pepper outfits. Not conclusive proof either way, but may point to seamless dreamscape not existing for either chapter challenges or albums.

[colahead420]

But I don't think it does end there unless you're in quickplay or story (non- chapter challenge) mode. By all appearances, LitSwD is going to pick up immediately with the balloon in the night sky, with no return to the studio. This could be wrong, but I suspect not.

And then descend into a river, and turn into a boat. The bottom of the gazebo already has a motor on it. :D

That would be brilliant.

[chrth_rb]

Hmmm Album Dreamscape may be dead:
http://www.thebeatlesrockband.com/inc/img/press/pdfs/TBRB_19_song_release_08_18_09.pdf

I Want You (She's So Heavy) is on the rooftop concert.

I wonder if they'll do seamless dreamscapes for only the songs in the DLC? Seems highly doubtful. Looks like we'll see a lot of the studio in transition. Still hoping the chapter challenges are seamless though.

Oh well. The dream is over.

EDIT: Screenshots at the main site also show Pepper costumes for Getting Better and Hello Goodbye ... although Paul is moustache-less in the latter one. So unless the songs are in a weird order (always possible), I have to think that seamlessness might not exist at all.

[tingly]

The press releases say the Abbey Road DLC will be the entire album. That would let them redo the venues as they see fit.

[i_c_weiner]

But they've never in the past sold a song via DLC to you when you already have the same exact song on-disc. The only way I see it working out is if they sell over-arcing dreamscapes for the current Abbey Road on-disc songs at a reduced price ($1? 50 cents? Free with purchase of album DLC?) as part of the deal.

[tingly]

That's what made me ignore it in its first press release, but since it popped up again in its 2nd, I'm open to it.

[autumnmantis]

My language convention is better than your language convention. I vote for portmanteaus: Sgt. Pepper's Friends, and... Lucmonds.

I like "Sgt. Pepper's Little Helper". And shouldn't it be pluralized "portmanteaux"? ;)