Full Albums We Do/Don't Need (In My Opinion)

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

I am just giving my thoughts on each official album in the catalog (except 1, Let It Be. . . Naked, Yellow Submarine Songtrack, etc. since those songs are all available elsewhere). I use "yes" or "no" with a brief explanation as to why I do/don't think it would work.

Please Please Me - No. Too much filler.
With The Beatles - No. See above.
A Hard Day's Night - Yes. The quality of these songs is a notch above the first albums.
Beatles For Sale - No. Some of these songs aren't good enough in my opinion.
Help! - Yes. These songs are also better than much of the early material.
Rubber Soul - Already confirmed.
Revolver - Yes. Can we really have all of Rubber Soul but not have all of Revolver?
Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band - Already confirmed.
Magical Mystery Tour - Yes. Many of these songs are good.
The Beatles - No. Too many songs use alternate instrumentation and material like "Good Night" and "Revolution 9" wouldn't fit well.
Yellow Submarine - No. The second side is orchestral material not performed by the band. We are only missing four songs from the soundtrack that are actually performed by the band.
Abbey Road - Already confirmed.
Let It Be - Yes. The songs not on disc are great as well.

Past Masters - No. Though about half the songs should make it, like "Rain" and "She Loves You."
Love - Of course not, but a couple songs, like "Drive My Car/What You're Doing/The Word" would be really cool.
Anthology Series - No. But I would be shocked if "Free as a Bird," "Real Love," and other songs not released in other forms didn't make the game eventually.

As you can see, I feel that they are better served focusing on the latter albums. They contain better material and sound more fun to play. The singles from the first few years are what I feel we really need from that period.

[mva5580]

Disagree regarding Beatles for Sale and White Album, I absolutely want both of those.

Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Yellow Submarine are the only 3 I could deal with never being released. Everything else; Bring It.

[MostSpartan14]

Please Please Me, With the Beatles, and Yellow Submarine are the only 3 I could deal with never being released. Everything else; Bring It.

This, except I do want All My Loving, Love Me Do, and Please Please Me (the song)

[mva5580]

This, except I do want All My Loving, Love Me Do, and Please Please Me (the song)

I would agree. I was very surprised to not see All My Loving on the disc considering that was the first song they played on Sullivan.

[Chael]

You have to have The Beatles(album). It would be a travesty otherwise. That is one of their best(if not the best) albums.

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

Based on the comments that they are not going to release the full discography, I assumed they would attempt to pick out the best songs and most fun material possible for the remaining albums.

In my mind, that means sacrificing some of the early covers and filler material.

The Beatles were good, but let's face it, some of the early songs just don't hold up now, especially the ballads. Nothing sounds more dated in their catalog than some of the early ballads.

[rockfresh126]

ILove - Of course not, but a couple songs, like "Drive My Car/What You're Doing/The Word" would be really cool.


I personally LOVE listening to that album (see what i did there?) Some fantastic arrangements. If I'm just throwing in a Beatles album to jam to, it usually ends up being that one. And hey...Hey Jude from that album might actually be playable.

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

You have to have The Beatles(album). It would be a travesty otherwise. That is one of their best(if not the best) albums.

The Beatles is too widely spaced out for me. It isn't as enjoyable to listen to completely as much as Revolver or even Let it Be.

[MostSpartan14]

The Beatles is too widely spaced out for me. It isn't as enjoyable to listen to completely as much as Revolver or even Let it Be.

It still deserves to be DLC because it has a lot of awesome songs that weren't on the disc that I would buy. Just because you don't like all the songs, other people do and it's a lot of peoples favorite Beatles album. It definitely deserves to be DLC.

[mva5580]

Many people love the White Album though because of that very reason; it's so big and there are so many different types of songs on it. I listened through the entire vinyl last night (except for Revolution 9 of course,) and to me it's just a brilliant album. And it's widely regarded as one of the best albums ever, it was #10 in RS's Top 500 list.

It would be very surprising if the White Album is not largely represented. It's gotta be there.

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

Many people love the White Album though because of that very reason; it's so big and there are so many different types of songs on it. I listened through the entire vinyl last night (except for Revolution 9 of course,) and to me it's just a brilliant album. And it's widely regarded as one of the best albums ever, it was #10 in RS's Top 500 list.

It would be very surprising if the White Album is not largely represented. It's gotta be there.

I understand and agree with you on most of that. I just listened to it in its entirety for the first time (I much prefer the first half and usually just stop it before "Birthday"). I just think, of all the music we could have in this game, Harmonix would be better off spending time giving us other great tunes instead of the less interesting ones from The Beatles.

[Timmerbo]

I want the whole White Album. I would love to see how they would chart some of the more abstract stuff. Including Revolution 9. But a few of the non-RB appropriate songs aside, that album in general would be great.

Sexy Sadie, Cry Baby Cry, Savoy Truffle, Glass Onion, Yer Blues, Me and My Monkey, Happiness is a Warm Gun, Why Don't We Do it in the Road, Ob-La-Di Ob-La-Da, Long, Long, Long, Bungalow Bill, Rocky Raccoon, Honey Pie, Revolution 1, I'm So Tired, Don't Pass Me By... these are all the remaining songs that have the requisite instruments. The rest would be require some creativity on HMX, and some would still be missing stuff (there's not much you can do with Blackbird other than guitar and vocals... you could chart the metronome tap, but it wouldn't be much fun).

[Chael]

I understand and agree with you on most of that. I just listened to it in its entirety for the first time (I much prefer the first half and usually just stop it before "Birthday"). I just think, of all the music we could have in this game, Harmonix would be better off spending time giving us other great tunes instead of the less interesting ones from The Beatles.

Theres some great songs on the second side too.

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

Theres some great songs on the second side too.

Yes, just not my favorites.

On the topic of the 500 Greatest Albums list: I've never understood how Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band could outrank Rubber Soul and Revolver. The latter are just more complete albums. As groundbreaking as Sgt. Pepper was, the quality, in my opinion, is just a notch below.

[Chael]

Yes, just not my favorites.

On the topic of the 500 Greatest Albums list: I've never understood how Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band could outrank Rubber Soul and Revolver. The latter are just more complete albums. As groundbreaking as Sgt. Pepper was, the quality, in my opinion, is just a notch below.

I prefer Rubber Soul and Revolver too(barely though). But it's pretty obvious why Sgt. Peppers is a landmark. Every song is excellent.

[rockfresh126]

Yes, just not my favorites.

On the topic of the 500 Greatest Albums list: I've never understood how Sgt. Pepper's Lonely Hearts Club Band could outrank Rubber Soul and Revolver. The latter are just more complete albums. As groundbreaking as Sgt. Pepper was, the quality, in my opinion, is just a notch below.

I couldn't agree more. Especially considering how Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane got cut off the album at the last minute. Don't get me wrong, there's some killer tunes on Peppers, but the whole "concept" of the album drags it down. The beginnig parts and end are really well done, but some of the middle stuff drags. With that being said...it's still better than most others people's best albums

[Dizzy8Atmosphere]

I couldn't agree more. Especially considering how Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane got cut off the album at the last minute. Don't get me wrong, there's some killer tunes on Peppers, but the whole "concept" of the album drags it down. The beginnig parts and end are really well done, but some of the middle stuff drags. With that being said...it's still better than most others people's best albums

Agreed.

Rubber Soul and Revolver could be the only albums I ever listened to. There isn't a song on either album that I can't listen to at any time, especially in the original track order.

[Chael]

I couldn't agree more. Especially considering how Strawberry Fields and Penny Lane got cut off the album at the last minute. Don't get me wrong, there's some killer tunes on Peppers, but the whole "concept" of the album drags it down. The beginnig parts and end are really well done, but some of the middle stuff drags. With that being said...it's still better than most others people's best albums

Well, only one of them would have been on the album. I'm guessing Strawberry Fields to give John another song.

[chrth_rb]

Re: Sgt Pepper

It usually gets higher marks because of its overall influence on so many different aspects of the music industry. But don't overemphasize the "concept" part: in the end, it's just the opening track, help with my friends, and reprise that are the concept. While the rest of the album (with two exceptions, more in a sec) appear to fulfill the idea of a concept album, they were recorded and added to the album without concern whether they fitted the concept. Consider Within You/Without You: musically it doesn't belong on the album if you go along with the concept idea, especially when you consider Only a Northern Song was originally recorded for the album and could've been substituted if they really wanted to. The other exception, A Day in the Life, actually doesn't exist on the album at all: it's place after the reprise sort of makes it a bonus track, when you think about it.

I think ultimately the album that deserves to be #1 is Rubber Soul -- but of course, it's the US album that was so influential and instrumental to the evolution of music (which includes Sgt Pepper) not the UK one, and no one wants to admit that a "butchered" album deserves to be #1.

[chrth_rb]

As for albums to have or not have, while I don't think every track needs to be made into DLC (Rev 9, anything that's less than a minute), I think they should release all albums as DLC. I don't favor the old stuff particularly, but that doesn't mean it won't be fun to play.

[RADIO CHRIS]

Harmonix should just give us all the songs because we're the consumers and we want all the songs.

[Chael]

Harmonix should just give us all the songs because we're the consumers and we want all the songs.

I've been curious about something for a while. How old are you? If you want all the songs then I suggest you buy all DLC they release as that is how we are going to get more.

[Wave57]

Harmonix should just give us all the songs because we're the consumers and we want all the songs.

This

[mva5580]

I'm with you guys on the discussions re: Rubber Soul/Revolver, those are two brilliant albums as well. And when you consider that Rubber Soul/Revolver/Sgt. Pepper was a 3 consecutive album streak.....I mean what can be said about that? It's beyond unbelievable.

I'm ok w/ Sgt. Pepper being #1 on the list, but I think Rubber Soul should be higher than 5. Only the Beatle "haters" would complain if that list had Pepper 1/Revolver 2/ Rubber Soul 3. Because it would be totally justifiable.

But back on the White Album, there are so many songs on that which I really hope I get a chance to play. I just think it's got to be in there, to some extent. They can leave off Wild Honey Pie/Revolution 9, but I'd want everything else on there. Admit it, Why Don't We Do it in the Road would be great fun :) Plus it could be a great dreamscape!

[ParkaPalFred]

Admit it, Why Don't We Do it in the Road would be great fun :) Plus it could be a great dreamscape!

Oh gawd that is simultaneously the worst and best idea I've seen for this game.

[Chael]

Buy everything you can. If DLC sales skyrocket I guarantee we will get most everything we want. Money talks. Telling them you want more DLC isn't going to do anything. Show them with your cash.

[travmeatwad]

Here are my lists.

Need:
All

Don't Need:
None

[mva5580]

Here are my lists.

Need:
All

Don't Need:
None

This list works good for me. While I can live w/o the 3 that I mentioned, would I buy them if they became available?

Hell Yeah, Motha' Trucka'

[Wave57]

Here are my lists.

Need:
All

Don't Need:
None

Woah that's my list too.

[Rod_Stixx]

As a huge fan of The White Album, I would love to see it as a "nearly" full album. I don' want Rev 9, and I wouldn't cry if Wild Honey Pie wasn't on there (though I like it just fine as I listen to the album). I would definitely want most everything else on there, however.

[Zerobox94]

I really want to see Help!, A Hard Day's Night, Beatles For Sale, Past Masters, and Revolver make it as DLC. White Album couldnt hurt either.

[Jorm]

The White Album in its entirety, or skipping just a few tracks, is a must in my book.

It's The Beatles at their most experimental, it's all over the place. It would force charting that's just as creative and experimental as the original work. I'd be terribly excited to see what HMX does with it.

[mysfarbror]

Let it be and Magical mystery tour

[yaniv297]

The White Album is my favorite Beatles album and I want it in the game...

Even if some tracks won't work, at least make a 12 pack or something of the ones that will - Happiness is a warm gun, sexy sadie, Glass Onion etc

[Robondacob]

Buy everything you can. If DLC sales skyrocket I guarantee we will get most everything we want. Money talks. Telling them you want more DLC isn't going to do anything. Show them with your cash.

That's a horrible idea. Why would you support a company for doing something you don't agree with?

[Chael]

That's a horrible idea. Why would you support a company for doing something you don't agree with?

Its pretty simple. The more the DLC sells the more we get. Also, wouldn't it be nice to play online with people who have DLC? Come on, It's The Beatles here. Aside from Revolution 9 or the Honey Pies we should be supporting everything.

[Jayrod1137]

Am I the only one here who wants Revolution 9 for TB:RB DLC?

[chrth_rb]

That's a horrible idea. Why would you support a company for doing something you don't agree with?

You don't agree with the concept of making money?

[i_c_weiner]

The Beatles - I'd love especially Glass Onion, Bungalow Bill, Happiness, Don't Pass Me By, Yer Blues, Monkey, Savoy Truffle, and Good Night. Am I really the only person who would love to have Good Night just to sing it? They could chart the violin and cello as guitar and bass, as they seem to be doing on other songs on-disc like I Am the Walrus. It would be fun to sing, in my opinion.

Revolver - Whenever I listen to Rubber Soul on my iTunes, I always seem to listen to it and Revolver together. I would be disappointed if I'm Only Sleeping, She Said She Said, Good Day Sunshine, Gotta Get You Into My Life, and the original Tomorrow Never Knows never are DLC. And Here, There, and Everywhere is another song like Good Night which I would love to sing.


Otherwise, it's pretty here and there. If two of its songs weren't already on-disc and one wasn't already confirmed DLC, Yellow Submarine would appear on my list. However, with three songs left, that's more of a track pack than an album. The only songs on Magical Mystery Tour that I really want that are left are Your Mother Should Know, Strawberry Fields Forever, and Baby You're a Rich Man. Let It Be is in a similar situation, with only Two of Us and One After 909 left that I really want. There are here and there songs from the early era that I would want, but I don't know which of the early albums I'd most want.

[Robondacob]

Its pretty simple. The more the DLC sells the more we get. Also, wouldn't it be nice to play online with people who have DLC? Come on, It's The Beatles here. Aside from Revolution 9 or the Honey Pies we should be supporting everything.


You don't agree with the concept of making money?

Yeah it makes money for HMX, but why would you buy something if you don't like it? That's dumb.

[chrth_rb]

Yeah it makes money for HMX, but why would you buy something if you don't like it? That's dumb.

How would I know in advance if I don't like it? The Beatles are my favorite band, but there are a bunch of their songs I don't make an effort to listen to frequently. That doesn't mean it won't be fun to play them. If I can afford the DLC, then I'm going to buy them. I may discover something I didn't really care for before is a lot of fun. In addition, I'm rewarding HMX for doing something I do support -- releasing DLC of Beatles songs.

As far as I can see, it's a win-win proposition.

[carlos_el]

I like With the Beatles. :(

[Killercroissants]

I think it's pretty safe to say we'll be getting close to all (if not, all) of the albums.

There's way too much money in the DLC's to make too many exclusions.

Besides, their job is to try and get as many of the Beatles songs as they can. They've said many times that they are going for nearly all of the songs, which means nearly all of the albums...don't be afraid to lose Yellow Submarine, though.

[Rich T.]

I hope the next DLC albums would be Hard Day's Night, Help! and Revolver.

Help!, in particular, is a particular favorite for me. Side 1 (the movie songs) offers one big parade of great tracks (I Need You is one of George Harrison's very best), and The Side 2 material isn't too shabby, either. I'd vote this as their most under-rated album, just on the strength of that first side (plus I've Just Seen a Face and Yesterday).

Heck, I even liked it when all I had growing up was the lousy American LP that only had the 7 movie songs spread over 2 sides with film score filler in between! Part of my experience with that album was the ritual of automatically grabbing the turntable needle and skipping over the film score tracks. Thank goodness we eventually got the British version on CD.

[TheOzone]

I don't think we "don't need" any of the albums.

The Beatles are The Beatles - the more, the better. :)

[elitemastersam]

Some albums have a few (or quite a few) songs that may not be included for the sake of instrument playability. Thus, some albums, such as the White Album, may not be released as "full albums," but instead as "album packs" consisting of the songs that could feature playability for all instruments.

[FloydPink]

Here's my opinion: *ahem*

Albums We Need:

All of them

Well, I hope you liked my list.

[chrth_rb]

There's way too much money in the DLC's to make too many exclusions.


[Apologies for the wall of text that follows, this went on far longer than I anticipated]

DLC only makes money after a song has been sold X number of times. If the more popular songs from the later albums only sell X+[1d12] copies, HMX is going to be hesitant to work on the earlier, less notable songs.

Here's an example (these are all example numbers):

Let's say a song needs to be sold 100,000 times to break even. For a typical RB track at $2, that's roughly $100,000 in production costs (figure the other $1 goes to hardware/comm support for the song and/or money to the platform vendor to use their service).

If less than 100,000 copies of the song are purchased, the developer has lost money on that track. If 200,000 copies of the song are purchased, the developer has made $100,000 -- which is enough to fund another song, if you think about it.

So let's look at TB:RB. We have to reckon two things:
1) Each track will be more expensive to produce, due to dreamscapes or just fealty to the venue/song (George has to be singing Think For Yourself)
2) That means either DLC will cost more or they need to sell more copies to break even

I'm not going to go into a whole "what's better, selling at $3 versus selling at $2" margin analysis because microeconomics was my worst grade in the MBA program. But it can be summed up as "charge more and hope people buy it anyway" versus "charge typical and hope we sell a lot more". But thanks to algebra, we don't need to choose a selling price.

Hey Jude is released on DLC at $Y a copy. If it sells X copies, it breaks even. If it sells 2X copies, it has funded another song.

So what about that other song, obviously it could fund itself. And it could. Presume that there are three tiers of songs in the Beatles catalogue:
A: The top hits that everyone will want (100% will purchase)
B: The solid contenders that most people will want (75% will purchase)
C: The lesser-known hits that die-hards want (33% will purchase)

Now, if A sells Z copies, B will sell .75Z copies and C will sell .33Z copies. HMX, then, needs to assess what Z is, and how it compares to X.

If Z = X, they obviously can't make any profit.
If Z = 2X, A songs make Cost in Profit, B songs make 1/2 Cost in Profit, and C songs lose 1/3 cost for a total of (1 1/6 * cost) profit. You can see what happened here: if C songs didn't exist, profit would've been higher. A+B alone would've been more profitable. (I'm not suggesting that HMX not make C songs; there's obviously "goodwill", etc., gained by releasing as much of the catalogue as possible. Failure to release C songs could diminish the sales of B songs.)
If Z = 3X, C songs will break even, so there's no reason not to release them (again, goodwill)

There are then two inputs that need to be analyzed (and, of course, whether the 1/.75/.33 are realistic):
1) What is the breakdown of A vs B vs C? In the example above, it is being presumed that there's an equal distribution of A B and C songs. There isn't. B probably describes the majority; if A is 25%, B is 50%, and C is 25%, the actual profit is higher. If C ends up being a larger share, however, there can be a problem if DLC sells for less than 3X.
2) If C is a larger share, you need to set your target Z higher. This will influence pricing, tie-ins, etc.

There are other factors involved of course (nothing is this simple in real life). For example, you have to presume a depreciation of interest in the game over time, so Z will diminish for all classes. You can slow this by keeping your A/B/C mix consistent (in other words, HMX should never release a trio of C songs as DLC, they should always attempt to have an A in every release. And if you're guessing that's why 1) they're doing album DLC and 2) Help! isn't on Disc, you're probably guessing correctly).

Ultimately, though, it's going to come down to the initial sales of album DLC (I'm excluding the funding of DLC from disc sales in this analysis). If Abbey Road and Sgt Pepper both sell at 3Z or higher, HMX has to be reasonably confident they can at least break even on all DLC -- although I'd recommend against saving the earliest stuff for last (there's no surer way of keeping interest alive for the entire lifecycle of Beatles DLC than to save The Beatles (White Album) for last -- I'm about to get pelted with stones, aren't I?). If Abbey Road and Sgt Pepper only linger around 2Z, though, the chances diminish. And if they only hit Z? Well I'd guess at that point the entire platform is in trouble.

Finally (and thanks to the two of you that actually read the whole thing) I would like to point out that this is an overly-simplistic model, and there are numerous factors that aren't being discussed here. But I just wanted to take the time to illustrate the mechanics of DLC profitability because with TB:RB being a limited lifecycle platform due to its current lack of importability/exportability, the typical DLC rules probably don't apply. On RB2, a C song would have many years (and be able to purchased with RB3, 4, etc.) to reach X copies sold. TB:RB DLC is not going to have that luxury.

[Mr. Tate]

Ultimately, though, it's going to come down to the initial sales of album DLC (I'm excluding the funding of DLC from disc sales in this analysis).

First of all, very appreciated analysis. Second of all, this is The Beatles and I don't think a short term sales figure would impact with much significance. It's not like this flavour of the week is going to pass and in 6 months no one will want to listen to this band. So I guess they will look at the sales but not necessarily in terms of "this products is financing this new product".

[Mr. Tate]

Why wouldn't we need the early albums? They're excellent pieces of rock'n'roll music with very good covers. This is The Beatles game, let's hope for the full catalogue with the exception of instrumental tracks and such that could create problems in "translating" into the game (which I think the "stretching it a bit" quote is referred to).

[chrth_rb]

First of all, very appreciated analysis. Second of all, this is The Beatles and I don't think a short term sales figure would impact with much significance. It's not like this flavour of the week is going to pass and in 6 months no one will want to listen to this band. So I guess they will look at the sales but not necessarily in terms of "this products is financing this new product".

It's not that so much as the fact that HMX is front-loading the DLC release with Abbey Road and Sgt. Pepper, probably the two most popular albums for casual fans. There will be very few casual fans that would pick up With the Beatles album DLC before Sgt. Pepper. So one would expect that if those two don't sell well, none of them will.

And I honestly do believe the decision to go with Abbey Road first and Sgt Pepper second or third was deliberate to ensure a healthy number of DLC purchases at first, not only for "funding" future album releases but also to expand the playability of the entire game to keep people's interest up.

[TheObscure]

Past Masters Volume 2 was one of my favorite Beatles singles/albums.

[colahead420]

Here's my opinion: *ahem*

Albums We Need:

All of them

Well, I hope you liked my list.

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All the singles would be nice too. A & B sides.

[tingly]

The other thing is if they'll make enough of a profit. If Harmonix profits a little from having employees working on Beatles DLC and profits a lot from the same people working on something else, Beatles DLC ought to get dropped for the something else.

[Robondacob]

How would I know in advance if I don't like it? The Beatles are my favorite band, but there are a bunch of their songs I don't make an effort to listen to frequently. That doesn't mean it won't be fun to play them. If I can afford the DLC, then I'm going to buy them. I may discover something I didn't really care for before is a lot of fun. In addition, I'm rewarding HMX for doing something I do support -- releasing DLC of Beatles songs.

As far as I can see, it's a win-win proposition.

You would seriously buy something you don't know if you like or not? You can listen to the music and see if you like the song.

We're not even arguing over the right thing at this point. The original argument was that if they release DLC we dislike, we should buy the songs so they release DLC that we do like.

[Chael]

You would seriously buy something you don't know if you like or not? You can listen to the music and see if you like the song.

We're not even arguing over the right thing at this point. The original argument was that if they release DLC we dislike, we should buy the songs so they release DLC that we do like.

Buy it all, it's The Beatles.

[Chew13acca]

I actually think that if LOVE were to be available as DLC, and you could play the entire album as a single, hour long track (no score screens. Just SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG SONG etc.) , Vocals would be HARD. Try FC'ing THAT lol.

I'd find it great fun.

[chrth_rb]

You would seriously buy something you don't know if you like or not? You can listen to the music and see if you like the song.


There's a difference between liking a song while listening to it, and liking a song while playing it. There are plenty of songs I've discovered on GH/RB that I like to listen to but don't enjoy playing and vice versa.



We're not even arguing over the right thing at this point. The original argument was that if they release DLC we dislike, we should buy the songs so they release DLC that we do like.

And I think you should. Think of it this way: let's say you're a big Def Leppard fan. And they finally release an RB pack, and it contains Foolin', Animal, and Nine Lives. Now, the songs you really want are Photograph, Pour Some Sugar on Me, and Do You Wanna Get Rocked. So you have a choice to make here: do you purchase the first pack release in the hopes that sales encourage the release of more songs, or do you sit on your hands and hope? Presuming they are songs I'd probably enjoy on some level, I'd rather act and be disappointed my effort was for naught rather than not act and wonder if I could've changed the outcome.

Now, there are limits here: I would never buy another Sting song just because I'd love to play Fortress Around Your Heart in RB. But when it's your favorite band and you really want the whole catalogue, there's virtue in making an effort.

[JasonDLT]

I don't really care what albums they release on DLC as long as the singles Hey Jude and Let It Be are released as DLC.

With that said, I am also a fan of the White album and would love to see the entire thing published.

Hell, come on HMX - publish the entire catalog - that's what you got it for.

[Robondacob]

And I think you should. Think of it this way: let's say you're a big Def Leppard fan. And they finally release an RB pack, and it contains Foolin', Animal, and Nine Lives. Now, the songs you really want are Photograph, Pour Some Sugar on Me, and Do You Wanna Get Rocked. So you have a choice to make here: do you purchase the first pack release in the hopes that sales encourage the release of more songs, or do you sit on your hands and hope? Presuming they are songs I'd probably enjoy on some level, I'd rather act and be disappointed my effort was for naught rather than not act and wonder if I could've changed the outcome.

Now, there are limits here: I would never buy another Sting song just because I'd love to play Fortress Around Your Heart in RB. But when it's your favorite band and you really want the whole catalogue, there's virtue in making an effort.

That is stupid. Why would I buy songs I dislike in hopes that there will be better songs later? If you're going to pay extra for the game, why choose songs you might not like? It's a waste of money.

[chrth_rb]

That is stupid. Why would I buy songs I dislike in hopes that there will be better songs later? If you're going to pay extra for the game, why choose songs you might not like? It's a waste of money.

We're going back and forth here. Apparently you're not going to understand my point of view. I have no issue rewarding companies for doing something I support, you obviously do. No biggie.

[Killercroissants]

I have a good hunch that almost all of the songs will be released eventually, so I can understand Robo's point.

However, even if they're not your favorites doesn't mean that they won't be fun to play, which is how I think Chrth makes a good point.

But then again, buying songs you may end up not liking doesn't do a whole lot for your money's worth..

But you need to take chances, sometimes, and try new things....

I'd rather just be the middle-man and not actually point out which side I agree with.

[mysticneji]

We're going back and forth here. Apparently you're not going to understand my point of view. I have no issue rewarding companies for doing something I support, you obviously do. No biggie.

I get what your saying. I've been supporting HMX for a while now. And that's from buying every DLC they've released. The only one's I don't have are the exclusives from the Country Track Pack.

And you can bet that I will be buying every Beatles song/album that they release for TB:RB because I want to them to release more and more.

[Demon4x4]

Am I the only one here who wants Revolution 9 for TB:RB DLC?

No! I want it. :)