Rap on Rock

[GoldenStateWarrior]

I was curious if it crossed anyones mind using some rap songs on rockband...and i dont really consider beastie boys the solution. they have plenty of rap artists using rock instrumentals (i.e. the shop boys whole cd "Rock Star Mentality") has all rock instrumentals and is rock inspired with rap lyrics. i think you would be surprised if you released a set list on live how many people would purchase them

[rickhernandez76]

I remember back in the day when LL Cool J did "Mama Said Knock You Out" on the MTV VMA's with a live band. For its time, it was a killer performance. There are some solid tracks out there. I think the biggest problem is not having enough guitar/bass lines in most tracks. You can find some solid tracks though, especially from The Roots!

[Xx SteameR xX]

There are a great number of live performances from hip hop artists that would work well. Perhaps from an awards show or from a concert...

[Xx SteameR xX]

I would love to see Amerie's "1 thing"

[AgamousChild]

The Judegment Night Sound Track has got to be one of the BEST Rock/Rap collaborations ever put together. In some spots it sounds a bit rushed, but it still has the best of both worlds.

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0107286/soundtrack

[Highlandlassie]

Absolutely, positively, emphatically,

NO!!!

[CaptainCoins]

Absolutely, positively, emphatically,

NO!!!

Congratulations! You have been selected as this threads senior ******.

On topic, sounds cool. Some rap albums/artists do have a more rock sound with rap lyrics. If it sounds good and has instrument parts for guitar, drums, bass, and vocals I don't see why not. There are also some remix versions of songs that have rock bands playing with the rappers singing. Like Rammstein playing Hi My Name Is, with Eminem singing, that would be funny. Or the Linkin Park/Jay-Z album.

Don't be so condesending on new ideas, some people would love these types of songs as dlc

[HyeJinx1984]

I could see a FEW working out. Off the top of my head...

Shamrocks n' Shenaningans by House of Pain
All About the Benjamins (Rock Version, obviously) by Puff Daddy and the Fam.
or, All About The Pentiums by Weird Al
most anything by Limp Bizkit
Rock Superstar by Cypress Hill

I'm sure there's other Rap n' Roll that could work...

[Highlandlassie]

Congratulations! You have been selected as this threads senior ******.

On topic, sounds cool. Some rap albums/artists do have a more rock sound with rap lyrics. If it sounds good and has instrument parts for guitar, drums, bass, and vocals I don't see why not. There are also some remix versions of songs that have rock bands playing with the rappers singing. Like Rammstein playing Hi My Name Is, with Eminem singing, that would be funny. Or the Linkin Park/Jay-Z album.

Don't be so condesending on new ideas, some people would love these types of songs as dlc

Hey, I just cringe at the thought that rap might come up in a mystery setlist.

As DLC, whatever blows your skirt up, but not at the expense of true Rock and Roll.

The time it takes to do DLC on rap is time away from doing real rock and roll, which is what this game was designed to be all about.

These are my concerns.

[CaptainCoins]

They aren't going to add anything to any setlist. Everything new will be brought in as DLC. Don't like it don't buy it, but don't bash those that do like it.

[Highlandlassie]

They aren't going to add anything to any setlist. Everything new will be brought in as DLC. Don't like it don't buy it, but don't bash those that do like it.

So far, I have been "ALL IN" for whatever downloadable content comes along.

I dont know the new bands, or artists all that well, dont really matter, but to buy something blindly assuming it is rock and roll and getting rap would be bad, as it WILL come up in your mystery setlists.

Now if they called it a "Rap Pack" that would be ok, just dont want any surprises.

[Rock_Starman]

Run DMC and also Bring the Noise by Public Enemy & Antrhax

[ty1gonz]

this is a stupid ? but how do u create a new post:confused:

[Highlandlassie]

this is a stupid ? but how do u create a new post:confused:

Go to the forum you want to create a post in, and at the upper lefthand corner, there is a button marked New Thread, click it and start your thread.

Hope this helps.

[HyeJinx1984]

I know! "Boyz In The Hood" by Dynamite Hack!

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[ty1gonz]

thanku!! high land

[EricA]

Gym Class Heroes would be awsome.

[TKurata]

Hip hop drumming is very difficult performed live. Many hip hop drums have 16th note kicks, nearly impossible to play on a kit, not to mention the finicky RB kick pedal.

It would be awesome, though...I'm down for some J Dilla or Madlib!

[TNTales]

I think something like the cross over Aerosmith Run DMC version of "Walk This Way" would be cool. The Roots would be cool.

[lucifer vandross]

every time a rap artist was musical guest on SNL they would have a full band, if i remember correctly. Snoop, Dre, pac... i can't think of any others, and this was mid nineties. it might be different now.

Gym Class would totally work.

Also in to cats... hillarious.

[LED HEAD]

im not into rap but im up for it!

[BevoTheWarrior]

"Bring the Noize" by Public Enemy and Anthrax. Anyone who says that song wouldn't fit in Rock Band has lost their damn mind.

[BearFan51]

Serious questions, no trolling.

Wouldn't a guitar line have to be created for most rap songs?, because I hear very few of them with guitar. (I know you can probably name a dozen, but I'm referring to the vast majority of rap) The songs I've heard with guitar have been looped samples. Doesn't sound very challenging or fun to me.

The drums are programmed (studio versions, and again I'm talking the vast majority of rap) and are usually just loops with an occasional fill and a breakdown. (usually, just halftime of the rest of the song) Aside from a funky beat, and let's face it, a lot of them are very similar, it would be boring for most drummers.

Bass lines could be cool, but again, loops-repeated.

Vocals are really the only real challenge and fun aspect of why you'd want rap in this game, IMO.

You might not like what I've brought up here, but they are issues that would have to be resolved if you hope to sell this as DLC with a broad appeal. (looking to sell as many dl's as possible, to recoup the programming time, and song liscense, oh and profit!)

[BearFan51]

"Bring the Noize" by Public Enemy and Anthrax. Anyone who says that song wouldn't fit in Rock Band has lost their damn mind.

Hell, I'd buy that.

[mando86]

I think rap on Rock Band is a terrible idea. In my opinion hip hop ruins anything it touches. Look at nu-metal or reggeaton. Look at all the pathetic wiggers acting like thugs in suburbs all across America. Bad, bad idea.

On a related note, one of my bands is called Wigger Genocide.

[amolinam]

Anthrax/Public Enemy's Bring the Noise, please?

[Rotten Possum]

I think that they are fundementally flawed because when I try to sound like Faith No More, I'll get... okay ratings, but someone muttering the song gets awesome.

[ky0d3n]

Crank that - Soulja boy Remixed by Travis Barker...

Get Back - Ludacris feat. Sum41 Rock N Roll Remix

Break Stuff -Limp Bizkit

Faith - Limp Bizkit

Ditty - Paperboy

Shut up and Drive - Rhianna

Party like a rockstar - Shop Boys

Lets go - Lil John Crazy train remix

Superstar - Cypress Hill

King of Rock - Run DMC

Ofcourse not all of these would really work on Rockband without them letting you have more than one vocalist but these would definitely be fun to play on Rockband.

[Brentstah]

man I really dont want rap as one of my three per week DLC...
But i guess Linkin Park is good...

[Badosh]

Crank that - Soulja boy Remixed by Travis Barker...

Get Back - Ludacris feat. Sum41 Rock N Roll Remix

Break Stuff -Limp Bizkit

Faith - Limp Bizkit

Ditty - Paperboy

Shut up and Drive - Rhianna

Party like a rockstar - Shop Boys

Lets go - Lil John Crazy train remix

Superstar - Cypress Hill

King of Rock - Run DMC

Ofcourse not all of these would really work on Rockband without them letting you have more than one vocalist but these would definitely be fun to play on Rockband.
are you like high or something?

[ky0d3n]

are you like high or something?

I'm sad we can't have an intelligent discussion.... so instead of intellectually mind spanking you, I will stoop down to same level IQ as you...

A-durrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr Heeeyuck!

P.S. Yes this is the internet, and yes of course everyones a BAMF. But guess what, being a jerk and a dumbass has been done already, you bring absolutely nothing new to the thread. Now scurry along and think REALLY hard about what you can say in this thread (Also, in any other thread you choose to be in) that is contributional whether good or bad in opinion about the subject.

[S1ashRev]

The Sugarhill Gang - "Rapper's Delight" anyone? (would be boring for guitar)

I am not much of a rap fan. Kind of was when it first hit the music scene but really hate the new stuff. Run DMC, Public Enemy, Sir Mix-A-Lot, LL Cool J, Fresh Prince, etc. (I would say NWA, EasyE, 2 Live Crew, Ice Cube, Dr. Dre, but I don't know if any of their songs are clean enough) might have some good songs that might work.

I am pretty much open to anything. Heck, Rock Band has already introduced me to songs and bands that I never thought I would have liked or never heard of.

Edit: forgot to mention Digital Underground.

[Rock_Starman]

Yea Let's Go would be good! Twista's part would be fun to try to sing.

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There's also this,it's called Loud Rocks:

1. Shame - System of a Down, Wu Tang Clan 2:40
2. Make Room - Sugar Ray, Tha Alkaholiks 3:59
3. Hip Hop - Static-X, Dead Prez 3:52
4. Los Angeles - Times Endo, Xzibit 4:05
5. Shook Ones, Pt. 2 - Everlast, Mobb Deep 4:16
6. Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthing ta F' Wit - Tom Morello, Chad Smith, Wu Tang Clan 3:52
7. Only When I'm Drunk - Crazy Town, Tha Alkaholiks 4:54
8. What U See Is What U Get - Sevendust, Xzibit 5:12
9. How Bout Some Hardcore - Butch Vig, MOP 3:28
10. For Heaven's Sake 2000 - Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Wu Tang Clan 4:55
11. Caribbean Connection - Shootyz Groove, Big Punisher 3:46
12. Survival of the Fittest - Sick of it All, Mobb Deep 3:46
13. Still Not a Player - Incubus, Big Punisher 4:12

There's a bonus track on the Canadian verision with Finger 11 and someone.

and this too,it's called Take A Bite Outta Rhyme:

1. Bring The Noise - Staind/Limp Bizkit
2. Going Back To Cali - Sevendust
3. Sucker M.C.'s - Lordz Of Brooklyn
4. Boyz-N-The Hood - Dynamite Hack
5. Posse On Broadway - Insane Clown Posse
6. It's Tricky - Bloodhound Gang
7. My Mind Playin' Tricks On Me - Kottonmouth Kings
8. Microphone Fiend - Fun Lovin' Criminals
9. New Jack Hustler - Dope
10. White Lines (Don't Do It) - Driver
11. Bring The Pain - Mindless Self Indulgence
12. Insane In The Brain - Factory 81
13. The Tribute (Tribute To 'Children's Story'/'Woo Hah! Got You All In Check'/'Method Man' - Nonpoint

and of course the xXx 2 soundtrack with that Korn/Xzibit song

[Hooligan]

I am very happy to see others intrested in rap as well. I listen to a lot of different music. But I am mostly a rap guy as thats all I heard growing up. But I have grown attached to rock, and thats with the help of those hybrid bands that add a rap twist. Rage Against the Machine most recently appealed to me, and I have always been a Linkin Park fan. Since I can't sing worth a damn, the only song my friends let me play on mic is Faith No More, lol. I have always been a bit of a closet Green Day and Metallica fan though, among other bands that had a couple songs I heard here and there that caught my attention.

I read the concerns some of you had about having any kind of rap in RB, and you made some good points. But there are hundreds of hybrid rock/rap songs out there. I'm sure these guys will can choose a handful of songs that would be fun for all instruments to play. ;)

[Xx SteameR xX]

Listen Let's face it, MOST rap songs would be B-O-R-I-N-G to play on either instrument. But there could be a handful of worthy songs to choose from. Nobody's asking HMX to change the game into RAP HERO or anything (at least I don't think they are) but they might could... maybe... if possible... see their way clear to bring in a coulple of DLC packs for fans of that genre (Rap, not Rap n Roll)

I personally don't care for anything beyond 1990 in the rap genre but if I have any hopes of getting my wish for some true R&B/jazz/Funk of any sort, I gotta hope they throw the fans of this style of music a bone too.

The problem is that even in many of the crossover songs or remixes the artist has either sampled or had a band play an existing song whilst they talk, err "rap" over music that would be more fun to play in it's original, or at worse, covered version. I think even the people that are clamoring for rap will find that once they played those repetitive or very simple parts on their respective instruments, they will grow tired of them real quick-like.... just my $.02

steamer

[Xzyliac]

My band would gladly donate our cover of Eric B and Rakim's Don't Sweat the Technique. Replacing the Sax for some nice guitar/wah of course.

[BearFan51]

Listen Let's face it, MOST rap songs would be B-O-R-I-N-G to play on either instrument. But there could be a handful of worthy songs to choose from. Nobody's asking HMX to change the game into RAP HERO or anything (at least I don't think they are) but they might could... maybe... if possible... see their way clear to bring in a coulple of DLC packs for fans of that genre (Rap, not Rap n Roll)

I personally don't care for anything beyond 1990 in the rap genre but if I have any hopes of getting my wish for some true R&B/jazz/Funk of any sort, I gotta hope they throw the fans of this style of music a bone too.

The problem is that even in many of the crossover songs or remixes the artist has either sampled or had a band play an existing song whilst they talk, err "rap" over music that would be more fun to play in it's original, or at worse, covered version. I think even the people that are clamoring for rap will find that once they played those repetitive or very simple parts on their respective instruments, they will grow tired of them real quick-like.... just my $.02

steamer

That's what I'm saying.

[W H A T]

There's also this,it's called Loud Rocks:

1. Shame - System of a Down, Wu Tang Clan 2:40
2. Make Room - Sugar Ray, Tha Alkaholiks 3:59
3. Hip Hop - Static-X, Dead Prez 3:52
4. Los Angeles - Times Endo, Xzibit 4:05
5. Shook Ones, Pt. 2 - Everlast, Mobb Deep 4:16
6. Wu-Tang Clan Ain't Nuthing ta F' Wit - Tom Morello, Chad Smith, Wu Tang Clan 3:52
7. Only When I'm Drunk - Crazy Town, Tha Alkaholiks 4:54
8. What U See Is What U Get - Sevendust, Xzibit 5:12
9. How Bout Some Hardcore - Butch Vig, MOP 3:28
10. For Heaven's Sake 2000 - Ozzy Osbourne, Tony Iommi, Wu Tang Clan 4:55
11. Caribbean Connection - Shootyz Groove, Big Punisher 3:46
12. Survival of the Fittest - Sick of it All, Mobb Deep 3:46
13. Still Not a Player - Incubus, Big Punisher 4:12



I own this CD and agree. this would be fun for a change up.

[Admiralwiggin]

ROCK band not Rap Band, i hear a Rap Hero is being released by activision comes with a "sampling" program to sample songs from rock band DLC and a light gun to "cap"those pesky opponents

[mujeresliebres]

I'd totally DL The Roots.

[crabhammer]

Not only is rap THE worst music anyone could possibly listen to, singing to the Beastie Boys song is impossible as it is.

[Geeoff]

Sounds good to me... I know a lot of people hate rap, but there's more that love it. I'd download a good rap pack, but it'd be hard to find songs that aren't repetitive with all instruments.

[hodayathink]

ROCK band not Rap Band, i hear a Rap Hero is being released by activision comes with a "sampling" program to sample songs from rock band DLC and a light gun to "cap"those pesky opponents

As stereotypical as that response is, it's still kinda funny.

As far as the topic is concerned, unless you went to the rap/rock hybrid songs, it would be hard to find songs that aren't ridiculously repetitive.

[Xzyliac]

Not only is rap THE worst music anyone could possibly listen to, singing to the Beastie Boys song is impossible as it is.

I still don't get this. It's rapping. No skill involved.

Maybe the color of my skin gives me magical powers but I can do Sabotage easy.

[Hooligan]

ROCK band not Rap Band, i hear a Rap Hero is being released by activision comes with a "sampling" program to sample songs from rock band DLC and a light gun to "cap"those pesky opponents

I agree that rap songs would best be used on a karaoke game instead of RB or GH. But was that comment nessesary at all? Come on bud, this is a great game that opened doors for many to enjoy. Adding a bit more taste to this already legendary game woudln't hurt you would it? Share the wealth bud:cool:

[Larph]

Yea Let's Go would be good! Twista's part would be fun to try to sing.

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The problem with this is that it's very repetitive. Just listen to the beat, it loops over and over rendering this song to provide little challenge to all but the vocalist.

Nonetheless, it would be interesting to see more song variety in Rock Band, genre-wise.

[G Buckett]

What about Walk this Way By Aerosmith & Run DMC

[McNasty18]

there is very little hip-hop i like out now im just not a fan of most of the down south stuff, but i'd love 2 see some rap songs as DLC. it'd be awsome

[4degrees]

F*ck tha Police by NWA.

[McNasty18]

haha that "lets go" song would be tough simply cuz of twista's part

[Xx SteameR xX]

haha that "lets go" song would be tough simply cuz of twista's part

NO NO NO! Let's Go is a terrible choice. That beat is the opener to a Black Sabbath / Ozzy Ozborn song and it's THE MOST BASIC PART OF THE SONG. Why would HMX choose that over the original music which would be much, much more challenging? I suppose they could for the sake of the lyrical part, but how much would be left after filtering the endless, and pointless swearing?

steamer

[ancientwolf13]

Sugarhill Gang - Rappers Delight would be a good song that could work. Its a classic and a good endurance song.

[Johnny Webb]

Nerd would be a perfect example of a song begging to go through the RB treatment. Specifically "She Want's To Move"

[Rock_Starman]

how much would be left after filtering the endless, and pointless swearing?


There's a radio edit and also they've already said DLC doesn't have to be censored because it's individually rated.

[Josh O]

Anthrax/Public Enemy's Bring the Noise would kick large amounts of ass.

[hodayathink]

http://www.hustlerofculture.com/me_we/2008/01/guitar-hero-por.html

Just because I thought it might be almost somewhat relevant.

[suga3400]

amen. but I dont see how you guys have anything negative about them releasing a dlc of rap.

!.It would sell

2. These are plenty of songs that can be done, that would be challenging. there have been tons of good suggestions in this forum

3.as for repetiveness, there are quite a few songs already on RB that are very repetitive

4.IT WOULD SELL.

[drummerstud]

I actually have pictured myself playing the party like a rockstar remix a few times, but i don't know about it being on rock band

[PaulO_214]

how about that travis barker remix of crank dat?

that would be crazy to try and do that on expert... it also has guitar so it could work

[Toddfather82]

correct me if im wrong but i thought the game was called ROCK band not some dumbass rappin

[Drunk_Gamer]

People that don't want the songs quit your b*tching. Seriously DLC is your choice its not forced upon you. God forbid they release A SONG or a track pack that your not going to want to download. Obviously there are ALOT of people that would like this and anyone saying all rap songs wouldn't be fun on certain instruments is just plain ignorant. There are hundreds of songs that would work out well on ALL instruments and people have already suggested a bunch of them.

It's simple don't like it don't download it. And anyone who blindly downloads tracks without listening to them first is stupid. Hit up CDNOW.com and do a search for songs before you download them they have 30 seconds samples for every song that Rock Band has released so far.

[jnr1211]

Everyone forgets about The Roots. A hip hop act backed by an amazing band. Infact Ben Kenny left The Roots to play bass for Incubus.

[Dalamari]

Bring the Noise by By Public Enemy feat. Anthrax

[HagPuppy89]

Lil' Wayne Plays guitar onstage. and lets not forget that he is one of the best rappers alive. ROCK is rock. but that doesn't mean that rap cannot be featured in DLC for rock band. There are plenty of rap songs that could be featured in DLC for Rock Band, that have all four musical parts. And for those of you that say that the lyric parts "suck" or whatever then you just don't understand what rap is and what the style is about. For the record, personally i don't count sabotage as a real RAP song. OH AND NOT ONLY DO I WANT RAP ON ROCK BAND BUT I WANT SKINDRED AND SEVEN DUST ON THERE TOO! yeah i like both ROCK and RAP. suck it.

[lightningryan]

Lil' Wayne Plays guitar onstage. and lets not forget that he is one of the best rappers alive. ROCK is rock. but that doesn't mean that rap cannot be featured in DLC for rock band. There are plenty of rap songs that could be featured in DLC for Rock Band, that have all four musical parts. And for those of you that say that the lyric parts "suck" or whatever then you just don't understand what rap is and what the style is about. For the record, personally i don't count sabotage as a real RAP song. OH AND NOT ONLY DO I WANT RAP ON ROCK BAND BUT I WANT SKINDRED AND SEVEN DUST ON THERE TOO! yeah i like both ROCK and RAP. suck it.

You are amazing! Did you go to the Disturbed concert with Sevendust and Skindred. All of them are AMAZING!!!! Nice choice in music. These would be great choices.

As for the Thread; Its Rock Band, not Rap Band.

[Flux_Capacitor22]

Stick 'Em Up by Quarashi
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obeC4soyvgI
A little bit repetitive, but definately sounds like a lot of fun to sing and play.