My Daskonstruct Mod Review

[Spikbeatz]

Ok. So I did exactly what he did. This is just my review on it.

First of all, this mod is worth every penny.

10" inch pads from Vic Firth $6.99 a bag. You get 1 pad per bag.

You need 4 of these.

I used my compass to do a perfect circle and I measured it to 3 1/4 inches in diameter. I wanted to show the colors of the pads.

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I then used the left over material and cut a little square put in between the spring and the sensor. My pads looked completely different than DasKonstruct's pads but the premise is still the same. This is how all the pads looked like from underneath.

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Under that little orange piece lies a spring and another little rubber stopper which then hits the sensor. I just put the new pad in between those two and tighten the screws down.

Now when you do that, you don't want to tighten them down too tight or you will cause the pad next to it to double hit. I.E. you hit blue, green goes off without hitting it and same goes for yellow to red.

I just went into practice and kept hitting them in any big rock ending section to see how fast and to make sure the pad don't cross hit. I used regular green masking tape to hold the pads into place. That's it.

I also modded my bass pedal. I took the foot part off the hinge, and placed in on a sheet of stainless steel and just traced it. I plasma cut the steel and then took it to a belt sander to smooth out the edges.

I then placed it on the pedal and marked it up to drill holes through the pedal and the steel. I then riveted it down in place and then but some grip tape over it and I was done.

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I cannot thank DasKonstruct enough for doing this and letting us know how to do it. I love communities because of things like this. Someone figures out a way to make something better and instead of keeping for him/herself, they share it with others that could use it or not.

So total price is as follows:

$6.99 x 4 plus 7% tax = $29.92

**I cannot give price to stainless steel as I have some to my disposal at my shop. Nor can I give a price for rivets and a rivet gun as I have those too at my shop. You can substitute screws instead from a hardware store**

Masking tape - Free for me
??? like 3 or 4 bucks at an auto parts store.

Compass(if you don't have one) office depot - $3.50

Total - $37.40


Good luck to all that go this way. Even if you don't use the pads on top of the drum set, I would use the mod for the sensors for sure. It makes such a difference.

[bricot]

Do the drum surfaces just pull apart to get to the sensors or are there screws? Nevermind I went and looked they just lift off. I just pulled of the green pad and the piece over the spring is black on mine.... interesting though that there doesn't seem to be any movement on that piece if you push around on it.

Are the vic firth pads piece you used under the sensor approx. 3/16" thick?

Weren't others putting the material on top of the rubber bumber on the base of the drum pad instead of under the sensor?

[Spikbeatz]

Daskontruct did it in both places. I did the same thing he did.

Mine are 3/16" thick, yes. They are the same pads that I put on top I just cut it down to a little square for it to fit underneath.

[clasher]

So will this decrease the sensitivity? People are saying you have to hit harder in order for it to register. I just ordered my drum mutes and I'm gonna pick it up today. Little worried about the sensitivity issue. Thanks.

[clasher]

Oh, and do you put the pad on top of the sensor for all 4 pads? Or just the red and green? Thanks again.

[Spikbeatz]

yeah, I made 4 round 7" pads and just left enough to see the colors rings.

[Loonaci]

bumpity bump bump.

[Spikbeatz]

bumpity bump bump.

Thank you, I guess.

**EDIT**

I just read the other thread and now understand the free bump and I thank you Loon.

[clasher]

Thanks. But I mean do u do the sensor mod for all 4? Or just the red and green.

[bricot]

I only had to do it on the red and green pads, the middle two were just fine.

I haven't put the mutes on top of the pads yet, I've tried a few like the felt/foam and neoprene and they don't make much difference when I have the rubber silent tips on my sticks. The post about the gum rubber mutes is kind of interesting though.

They may have fixed the sensitivity issue recently, a friend just picked up the game for Christmas and all of his pads are very sensitive...

[Project_Mercy]

The way you mounted the internal foam pad is different from the purpose on how DasKonstruct put his. His increases the thickness of the rebound bumper at the bottom of his drum frame. Yours just disables the spring and increases tension on the piezo. Mostly, yours is another way to do something similar to the "penny mod".

I'm not saying you should undo it, but what you've done is very different from what he did.

[Meldlm]

I'm very confused on where DasKonstruct put his small squares inside the drum heads.

[Spikbeatz]

The way you mounted the internal foam pad is different from the purpose on how DasKonstruct put his. His increases the thickness of the rebound bumper at the bottom of his drum frame. Yours just disables the spring and increases tension on the piezo. Mostly, yours is another way to do something similar to the "penny mod".

I'm not saying you should undo it, but what you've done is very different from what he did.

Well I did what he did just on my drums. My drums are completely different than his as I stated in my review. But I just looked at his thread and I did do what he did.

My little orange piece kinda served the same way his black served. My foam piece is sitting on top of the nickel sized sensor. He doesn't have my layout of the drums so his does look different but I see what he did and I saw how mine were so I did what he did just on my drums.

You know what I'm saying? I don't think it would work in my drums how he did his. If I were to put the foam between the nickel sensor and the bottom of the base of the drum head.

What I also did was tighten down the 2 screws that keep the orange tab attached to the drums. I tighten down until I would NOT get cross hits between pads but still got extremely fast drum rolls say on red's and yellow's and on occasion blue's.

I did the same mod to my brother's drums and his looked like mine. His though, seemed to roll a lot better than mine. I don't know how but when I went into ballroom blitz expert, I would miss less red hits at the beginning than on mine. Sometimes, it was too fast. It was crazy. He loved it compared to "stock" drums.

I hope this kinda clears things up for some out there that are confused as to where to put the foam pads under the heads.

Look at the 2 different drums and try which ever applies to you.

[williams22]

Can someone post the link to the original mod thread? I'm considering doing this. How hard is it to remove the drum heads?

[Spikbeatz]

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15499

That is his mod thread. I apologize for not including that in mine. I thought I did but I also assumed most knew how to take their drums apart. My bad forum brother.

[AllisterFiend]

Under that little orange piece lies a spring and another little rubber stopper which then hits the sensor. I just put the new pad in between those two and tighten the screws down.


okay, a couple more questions...just to clarify a few things I'm still having trouble uderstanding.

When you say you "just put the new pad in between those two", did you mean in between the sensor and the little rubber stopper?

And if it was in between those two, should I cut the rubber to fit inside of the raised plastic circle that holds the sensor in place, or should I overlap it like I noticed in your picture, or does it even matter which way I do it.

I'm just trying to save some time and not have to keep undoing the drums to rearrange the setup.

Thank you for your help.

Allister Fiend.

BTW, the drum mutes are much better then the felt mod, IMO.

[Spikbeatz]

okay, a couple more questions...just to clarify a few things I'm still having trouble uderstanding.

When you say you "just put the new pad in between those two", did you mean in between the sensor and the little rubber stopper?

And if it was in between those two, should I cut the rubber to fit inside of the raised plastic circle that holds the sensor in place, or should I overlap it like I noticed in your picture, or does it even matter which way I do it.

I'm just trying to save some time and not have to keep undoing the drums to rearrange the setup.

Thank you for your help.

Allister Fiend.

BTW, the drum mutes are much better then the felt mod, IMO.

It doesn't matter if you cut it to fit the raised plastic or not. I didn't, but then I did it for my brother's set and it works just the same.

You place the mute pad material in between the sensor and the black rubber piece.

I hope this helps.