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[NoMoreOldCrap!]

OMGZ!!11 old people go away with your crappy old music!!!!1 and evil opinions! :eek:

when you were young (if you can still remember) your parents hated your music and said it sucked (although i might agree thats beyond the point.. or maybe it makes for a better point?) now we're the younger ones and your old and u say our music sucks.. well seems a bit hypocritical.

the truth is every generation has their own taste in music (overall)
and even more so, everybody has their own unique favorites

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

dont bash us and we wont bash you, :)

of course i know nothing will change, but i figure the more we say it, the closer we can get to shoving it into those thick skulls of yours :)

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

btw thats not my opinion, its TRUTH!

deal

[likwidomg]

And the truth is, every generation gets the right to knock on the younger generation's music. It's been goin' on forever and it always will. :)

[blue_dragonzero]

OMGZ!!11 old people go away with your crappy old music!!!!1 and evil opinions! :eek:

when you were young (if you can still remember) your parents hated your music and said it sucked (although i might agree thats beyond the point.. or maybe it makes for a better point?) now we're the younger ones and your old and u say our music sucks.. well seems a bit hypocritical.

the truth is every generation has their own taste in music (overall)
and even more so, everybody has their own unique favorites

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

dont bash us and we wont bash you, :)

of course i know nothing will change, but i figure the more we say it, the closer we can get to shoving it into those thick skulls of yours :)

I'm 16 and like old music. I am perfectly obligated to say whatever I want.. I knock your music for it is bad. Not because it is new.

[DesiredFX]

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

There are no arguments. 90% of music being released today is utter crap, just like 90% of music being released in my day was utter crap.

And as I've gotten older, I've also recognized that much of the music I enjoyed when I was younger--primarily between the ages of 13 and 20--was also utter crap, and I no longer listen to most of it anymore except when I'm feeling nostalgic.

So I imagine when you elect to grow up--assuming that happens--you will also find that some of the things older music fans are calling crap actually ARE crap and you were just too liquid-brained to recognize it.

And there is a fundamental flaw with your argument about our parents thinking our music was crap: my parents didn't grow up with music played on an electric guitar, they grew up listening to big band. I, on the other hand, did grow up listening to music that not only relates directly in style to the crap that's being churned out today but also is often the inspiration for the musicians that are churning out that crap.

[rgaino]

I am almost 30 and I still try to find new bands and I still go to small bars to see bands I never heard of, and I am always listening to the radio and reading music blogs. I love to find a new band and realizing that they are freaking awesome.

This is specially true with Brazilian music. I am from Brazil and although I live in the US now, I am still in touch with the music from my home place and my friends from there keep me posted on everything that is going on. There is a very rich rock scene there, specially in Rio and São Paulo.

It is not a question of being new or old. It is just that the kind of music that appeals to a younger audience is usually not very creative. This has been true since the dawn of time, and one day you will understand.

We don't bash music just because it is new. We bash because we know it follows the same old formula, because it is lazy for not trying anything new. Most of the stuff we like is old because it survived the test of time, that's all.

[jdmdsp911]

I'm 30 years old, and I listen to a lot of music that is considered "new" as well as old. In my opinion, one of the greatest things about music is it's diversity. I can sit and listen to Beethoven one minute, then turn around and listen to something Tommy from the Who, Bands like Poison, Motley Crue, Metallica, or even Korn, Linkin Park, Godsmack or System of a Down. A person doesn't think music is "crap" just because they are old or young, it is because they simply just don't like it.

[GCJ]

Yeah I also have a wide variety of music taste. For instance I'm a proud Kiss fan (you know that band that no one else has ever emulated......EVER) primarily the 70's era Kiss. I also like Zepp, Black Sabbath, The Who etc....bands that formed in the 70's and are still touring today. I also like a little bit of country, not much because most of it is the same damn feel sorry for me story 3 chord jangle or this new pop-country? wow what a crossover........which is crap. I like southern rock in general because really there aren't that many southern rock artists out there, old and new, to carry a sub-genre title. I also have vast collections of thrash like Slayer and Lamb of God and so on. I also like rap, not much cause like country most of it is the same damn boasting my fake rich thug image (and not to be confused w/ hip hop or top 40 which is also crap) which is all garbage IMO...I have NWA and Eazy E albums along w/ Eminem and Dr. Dre and Bone Thugs. I listen to all these generations of music most of which were new and old before I was even born, I'm only 24. Unlike most kids my age, yes i still consider myself a kid lol, I dug in to find unknown music. I made it an effort to seek out records of bands that aren't on the radio that are way more creative than radio bands. It's like when any artist makes it big, the whole nation knows them based on one single that is so commercial you want to permanently maime the producer, whether it is good or bad. I'm the person that either already heard of them, or researched their library to get an overall feel for their music befor I go making any judgement about them, usually in the metal/rock genre because thats where i lean towrards in preference. Most of the worlds' greatest rock music is never heard because it don't get radio play, unless it is classic rock. which most classic rock stations will play good music because classic rock is rock that has been around and lasted. It has lasted so many generations because and only because it is good music, classic is not a genre or a sound or a type or sub of a genre, it is a time stamp of the music in that class per se. Classic rock truely is the group of the best of the best because the music in that class is still here and rockin. I guess you could group Metallica in there, it's gonna happen someday. so in sumation, anything new today that lasts to make it classic generations later is the best music there is. And i may not have lived long enough to say i have experience in labeling the crappy music that is a result of new untalented overhyped artists, but I dare to say I'm well educated and do have the unique ability to tell which is and isn't crap.

[dodgyknees]

but I dare to say I'm well educated

Yet you don't seem to know what a paragraph is.

To the OP. How stereotypical do you want to be? All old people like old music? That would be like me saying all young people can't spell and mope around thinking the world owes them a favour. Oh, and that they alone discovered music.

But that would be silly, wouldn't it?

[Will-san]

When I was a kid I liked Wham and Spandal Ballet. My parents told me my music was crap - they liked Pink Floyd and the Beatles. I thought they were old farts. Now That I am older I see that they were right and I was wrong. Maybe 10% of the music I liked as a kid stood the test of time, the rest I am pretty embarrassed about. Same is true today, most of the "young bands" you like suck and in 15 or 20 years you will realize that.

[Jealleo]

You damn kids get off my lawn!

::Goes inside to listen to Flock of Seagulls::

[Rokkstar]

Lol "When You Were Young" is a song.

[DesiredFX]

Lol "When You Were Young" is a song.

Yup, and I find myself singing "he doesn't look a thing like Jesus" every time I open this thread.

[Renegade1007]

There are no arguments. 90% of music being released today is utter crap, just like 90% of music being released in my day was utter crap.

And as I've gotten older, I've also recognized that much of the music I enjoyed when I was younger--primarily between the ages of 13 and 20--was also utter crap, and I no longer listen to most of it anymore except when I'm feeling nostalgic.

So I imagine when you elect to grow up--assuming that happens--you will also find that some of the things older music fans are calling crap actually ARE crap and you were just too liquid-brained to recognize it.

And there is a fundamental flaw with your argument about our parents thinking our music was crap: my parents didn't grow up with music played on an electric guitar, they grew up listening to big band. I, on the other hand, did grow up listening to music that not only relates directly in style to the crap that's being churned out today but also is often the inspiration for the musicians that are churning out that crap.


Dude, I love Big Band music.....I'm a saxophone player who is in his College's Jazz Band and was in many Jazz Ensembles in High school.....So that is further proof that the OPs argument has many flaws.....Its garbage because it is garbage....not because it is new

[Brentstah]

Dude.
Did you really mean all that crap you said in the first post? Do you actually think only OLD people listen to GOOD music?
Im 13 and I hate this crappy music they have today. SOAD is the ONLY new music that is good.
Long live Led Zeppelin, Motley Crue, Jethro Tull, Iron Maiden, Beatles, etc.

[DesiredFX]

Dude, I love Big Band music.....I'm a saxophone player who is in his College's Jazz Band and was in many Jazz Ensembles in High school.....So that is further proof that the OPs argument has many flaws.....Its garbage because it is garbage....not because it is new

As a trumpet player, I have some Big Band blood in me, too. The angle I was coming from was that my parents called the music I listened to bad because they couldn't connect with the drastically different instrumentation.

People who grew up listening to The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Genesis, Yes, the Clash, the Sex Pistols, Elvis Costello, etc. were at least operating in a genre that used the same instruments today's bands used.

In other words, when my parents disliked the music I listened to, it came from the music being alien to them. When I dislike current music, it's because it sucks.

[Bryan Atomic]

I tend to agree and disagree with the OP. I do dispise the elitist attitude most "classic" rock fans have, and the attitude that in order to impress someone when you talk about music you have to mention several bands from the 60's in order to have credability. I hate the rolling stones, I hate the doors, I hate pink floyd, all are over rated bands in my opinion. They were great back in the day, before the invention of grunge rock and metal, when you had a choice between crappy 60's bands and country. But now we have tons of stuff to chose from, and jim morrisons crappy poetry put to someone mashing an organ doesnt quite stand up to modern music.

On the other hand, I hate the emo scene and most modern music also. Fall out boy and the likes is just insubstantial crap produced at speed and shoveled to the flock of seagulls haircut sporting masses. I have never seen a muscial niche so in love with itself without any substance to back it up. This music has produced the most annoying musical fan of all time, the emo kid.

The 80's and 90's seemed to produce the best stuff believe it or not. Bands like metallica, nirvana, pearl jam, alice in chains, tool, and Slayer all produced CD's you could honestly listen strait threw and rarely find a song you wanted to skip over. The music quality was great, every song was a hit and every song was enjoyable.

[Renegade1007]

I tend to agree and disagree with the OP. I do dispise the elitist attitude most "classic" rock fans have, and the attitude that in order to impress someone when you talk about music you have to mention several bands from the 60's in order to have credability. I hate the rolling stones, I hate the doors, I hate pink floyd, all are over rated bands in my opinion. They were great back in the day, before the invention of grunge rock and metal, when you had a choice between crappy 60's bands and country. But now we have tons of stuff to chose from, and jim morrisons crappy poetry put to someone mashing an organ doesnt quite stand up to modern music.

On the other hand, I hate the emo scene and most modern music also. Fall out boy and the likes is just insubstantial crap produced at speed and shoveled to the flock of seagulls haircut sporting masses. I have never seen a muscial niche so in love with itself without any substance to back it up. This music has produced the most annoying musical fan of all time, the emo kid.

The 80's and 90's seemed to produce the best stuff believe it or not. Bands like metallica, nirvana, pearl jam, alice in chains, tool, and Slayer all produced CD's you could honestly listen strait threw and rarely find a song you wanted to skip over. The music quality was great, every song was a hit and every song was enjoyable.

Its all musical taste.....I honestly don't like some Stones stuff and although Pink Floyd was great, I don't like them too much and I do love some Grunge and Metal....I like some modern Hard Rock, and even some Hardcore stuff from today....Its just my taste....and your taste doesn't like the Stones and Stuff....My taste doesn't really like Slipknot and such....and thats ok

[dodgyknees]

The 80's and 90's seemed to produce the best stuff believe it or not. Bands like metallica, nirvana, pearl jam, alice in chains, tool, and Slayer all produced CD's you could honestly listen strait threw and rarely find a song you wanted to skip over. The music quality was great, every song was a hit and every song was enjoyable.

Thats stretching things a bit. Vitalogy? Bleach? Reload?

[BevoTheWarrior]

You know, most of the people bashing music in this forum are young elitists who think that they're the only ones with decent taste in music. I'm almost thirty and when I see a post about a band I don't like, I just don't read or post in said thread. So stop generalizing about a particular age group and suggest the music you like with pride.

[BearFan51]

OMGZ!!11 old people go away with your crappy old music!!!!1 and evil opinions! :eek:

when you were young (if you can still remember) your parents hated your music and said it sucked (although i might agree thats beyond the point.. or maybe it makes for a better point?) now we're the younger ones and your old and u say our music sucks.. well seems a bit hypocritical.

the truth is every generation has their own taste in music (overall)
and even more so, everybody has their own unique favorites

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

dont bash us and we wont bash you, :)

of course i know nothing will change, but i figure the more we say it, the closer we can get to shoving it into those thick skulls of yours :)

Easy there, whippersnapper-else I'll beat you with my cane!:p

To be blunt, those of us over 30 tend to have more disposable income, enabling us to afford more DLC.

Do yourself a favor, write down (on paper) a list of your favorite new songs/bands and tuck it away for 20 years. In 20 years, count the number of turds in that bowl -I guarantee, most will be considered obscure/one hit wonders. Remember, lots of young people loved the Macarena, that doesn't make it suck any less, then or now.

Life's not fair, buy a helmet.

[TrunkMonkey]

OMGZ!!11 old people go away with your crappy old music!!!!1 and evil opinions! :eek:

when you were young (if you can still remember) your parents hated your music and said it sucked (although i might agree thats beyond the point.. or maybe it makes for a better point?) now we're the younger ones and your old and u say our music sucks.. well seems a bit hypocritical.

the truth is every generation has their own taste in music (overall)
and even more so, everybody has their own unique favorites

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

dont bash us and we wont bash you, :)

of course i know nothing will change, but i figure the more we say it, the closer we can get to shoving it into those thick skulls of yours :)

We are the ones with all the MONEY.

[Kingfish]

Yet you don't seem to know what a paragraph is.

To the OP. How stereotypical do you want to be? All old people like old music? That would be like me saying all young people can't spell and mope around thinking the world owes them a favour. Oh, and that they alone discovered music.

But that would be silly, wouldn't it?

QFT!

Well said!

[NismoRR]

Yet you don't seem to know what a paragraph is.



:D LOL! That did make me laugh!

[a terrible drummer]

I know a 40 year old bar tender who's favorite is Matisyahu.

The vast majority of music sucks, the old classics are called classics because they don't suck.

[KillAutumn]

In all fairness...

I'm a 20 year old with an extensive The Beatles collection and Lynyrd Skynyrd... <3 it.

I think that everyone has a taste of music and your affected by what you listened to growing up, because that's how you learned music should sound.

Yup

[BhindBluEyes430]

Im 17 and i listen to things that came out yesterday and things that came out 60 years ago
for instance The foo fighter and Muddy waters are on my playlist right now

[DesiredFX]

Do yourself a favor, write down (on paper) a list of your favorite new songs/bands and tuck it away for 20 years. In 20 years, count the number of turds in that bowl -I guarantee, most will be considered obscure/one hit wonders. Remember, lots of young people loved the Macarena, that doesn't make it suck any less, then or now.

Y'know what song was #1 the week I graduated High School?

"My Sharona," by the Knack.

At the time, I really enjoyed the song and, in fact, the entire Get the Knack album (didn't know they had an album, did you?), but by the time I was a sophomore in college, I had forgotten all about them. The song didn't get airplay anymore, not even as a "remember this song?" because radio changed shape pretty drastically in the 80s when MTV hit.

Nowadays, everyone knows My Sharona--it's become a cult hit that even made its way into Rock Band.

But I still remember it as a song that played itself out in about two months nearly 30 years ago. Bundle it up with Surrender by Cheap Trick and a few other songs and it represents an era when rock was trying WAY too hard to be pop.

I wouldn't pick on or bash anyone who likes it, though, because when I was 18 years old, it was pretty darned catchy.

[EJ826]

Age has nothing to do with your taste in music. I'm only 20 and my entire iPod has filled with music from the 60s. Pink Floyd, the Beatles, the Grateful Dead, and many others of the time. I think what draws me and many others to this type of music is the fact that these people were pioneers in the music scene at the time and helped to pave the way for all "new" music. And don't get me wrong because I am not bashing new music at all, but if you listen to both new and old music you can really tell that a lot of the new stuff has its roots in old music.

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

i'm actually 20 years old so i HAVE money, and a good bit. :)
$_$

all that old music sucks, the generation before you told you it sucked, the generation after is telling you it sucks, so i dont think you have much of an opinion, :)

out with it old in with the new!

and for those of you tainted by the old people... i'm sorry for you, :)
we'll still forgive you if you convert back.. its not too late!

[NoMoreNewCrap]

new music sucks and they have to slam on their instruments and scream cause they cant sing, naturally your mad. I would be too if i had to listen to that horsecrap.

[Rock_Starman]

I'm not that old but I'll comment anyway....

The real truth is even in 2112 people will still be listening to 2112. The Who,Hendrix,Zeppelin,Bowie,Queen etc. will still be listend to when the songs will be 100 years old. Movies tend to keep the classic songs alive too. They're classics for a reason.

No one is gonna remember Atreyu,Priestess or Fallout Boy. New Kids on the Block,Nsync,Backstreet Boys,Vanilla Ice,all those "pop princessess" I can't even remember the names of....forgotten already,just like all this emo/pop punk crap will be.

[BearFan51]

Y'know what song was #1 the week I graduated High School?

"My Sharona," by the Knack.

At the time, I really enjoyed the song and, in fact, the entire Get the Knack album (didn't know they had an album, did you?), but by the time I was a sophomore in college, I had forgotten all about them. The song didn't get airplay anymore, not even as a "remember this song?" because radio changed shape pretty drastically in the 80s when MTV hit.

Nowadays, everyone knows My Sharona--it's become a cult hit that even made its way into Rock Band.

Right. See the part of my post: one hit wonders. A good song is a good song, and people tend to remember it, even when the band is all but forgotten.


i'm actually 20 years old so i HAVE money, and a good bit. :)
$_$

How many people your age not living at home can claim the same? That's the point. No point in lecturing such an experienced, learned sage such as yourself. You've already seen and done it all, I'm sure.:rolleyes:


all that old music sucks, the generation before you told you it sucked, the generation after is telling you it sucks, so i dont think you have much of an opinion, :)

out with it old in with the new!

Quoted for laughter, and sheer stupidity.

So far, it looks like the younger people in this thread have placed you in the minority on this subject. You don't even have to like certain music to appreciate how it's created. If this confuses you, you have a lot of growing up to do.


So this new music of yours.........do any of the bands cite any of their influences? They must be creating all these modern masterpieces without having ever heard any music made before today,....right? Nothing is completely new, all music is inspired by other music.

Try again.

[Xzyliac]

Aren't you being hypocritical by asking us to not stereotype but you're stereotyping?

I'm honestly not upset. Chances are good I'm younger than you (don't give out age) and I listen to whatever I like. For the past I like the 60s and 70s. For today I listen to indie because radio went down the crapper in the 90s.

I just wish you'd realize you're playing both the victim and the suspect. We are all individuals. We are unique. Let us listen to what connects to us and if someone criticizes you let them be.

[Renegade1007]

Right. See the part of my post: one hit wonders. A good song is a good song, and people tend to remember it, even when the band is all but forgotten.



How many people your age not living at home can claim the same? That's the point. No point in lecturing such an experienced, learned sage such as yourself. You've already seen and done it all, I'm sure.:rolleyes:



Quoted for laughter, and sheer stupidity.

So far, it looks like the younger people in this thread have placed you in the minority on this subject. You don't even have to like certain music to appreciate how it's created. If this confuses you, you have a lot of growing up to do.


So this new music of yours.........do any of the bands cite any of their influences? They must be creating all these modern masterpieces without having ever heard any music made before today,....right? Nothing is completely new, all music is inspired by other music.

Try again.

QFT

19 and Freshman in College....Love everything from Bach to Parker to Elivis to Led Zep to Breaking Benjamin.....of course, I'm also a music Major. ;)

[johnlennonaid]

why does everything think they have the right to decide what music is good or bad, no one does. You just have the ability to state what you like and what you dont like. If you like something thats cool, talk it up all you want. If you dont go find something more constructive with your time then insulting it, like anything really...


Its all opinions people, there are no facts in music preference.

[King_Nuthin]

The thing is, when our parents were telling us we should listen to this or that, they were usually right. Our young musical brains were like empty attics that we were filling up with as much as possible, but because we had so much space up there a lot of useless crap got to linger around until we ran out of room.

They had the benefit of years and years to fill that attic. The crap they listened to had all been filtered out and they only remembered the really good stuff which was still really good. And because they had years and years of good stuff filling their attic they could only make room for other really good stuff, so all the derivative crap we were listening to had to be filtered out. Over time as our own attics filled up we pushed our crap aside and kept the good stuff in our hearts and memories. But when something good comes along we find a way to make some room for it.

When you're empty attic fills up you'll feel the same way.

[Renegade1007]

This has nothing to do with rock Music because its early 20th century classical style but look up Percy Grainger...He wrote some of the best millitary Band stuff ever....Or Gustav Holst....He Wrote the Planets suite where one of the movements, Mars: The Bringer of War, was an inspiration for The Star Wars Theme

[NattyLight]

http://images.salon.com/comics/boll/2007/06/14/boll/story.gif

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

no no no. YOU all need to realize something. my music is better than your music. no opinions, just the facts.

the reason your music has been listened to for so long is cuz it could actually have been recorded. so you guys keep listening to it since you have it. just like i listen to all the music i grew up with. so the logic that "our musics better because its been listened to for so long" is not a good arguement at all. sorry, :)

ALSO the reason you sometimes hear old music in movies is because the makers are old enough to have been exposed it. therefore they like it and try to force it on us. lots of movies nowadays are playing songs from bands in our times. because the new makers grew up listening to that and so they like it and so they bless us with good music, :)

:D :D

my music > your music

[roaddogg6420]

I am not that old only 34, but some of the best music for rock band and the only game( you know which one I am talking about) are older songs. They are harder to play and more fun to play. Not that newer stuff is not good because that is what is mostly on my Ipod is from the last two years.

[Renegade1007]

Excuse me, but get over yourself....Music is music....Its all subjective....Let me ask you this, what kind of music do you like, and why do you limit yourself to music from today? Tell me when was the last time you heard people going, "man! those nelly songs from 10 years ago are awesome!" Yea, If you're like me, you haven't heard those Nelly songs for years on the radio or unless you were looking through things and are like, "man I would really like to listen to this just to kinda listen to it since I haven't listened to it in so long." On the other hand, People listen to Skynyrd, Slayer, Iron Maiden, Zeppelin, Journey, etc on a daily basis. Music of today is like a flavor of the week music....and won't be listened to a few years from now

[Xzyliac]

no no no. YOU all need to realize something. my music is better than your music. no opinions, just the facts.

the reason your music has been listened to for so long is cuz it could actually have been recorded. so you guys keep listening to it since you have it. just like i listen to all the music i grew up with. so the logic that "our musics better because its been listened to for so long" is not a good arguement at all. sorry, :)

ALSO the reason you sometimes hear old music in movies is because the makers are old enough to have been exposed it. therefore they like it and try to force it on us. lots of movies nowadays are playing songs from bands in our times. because the new makers grew up listening to that and so they like it and so they bless us with good music, :)



my music > your music

But what does that say for the people like me (and you ironically) who weren't around during that time and all this music is new to us?

My little brother is 10. He likes Radiohead, Coheed and Cambria, Rolling Stones, Cranberries, Jefferson Airplane, The Who, Queen, and AC/DC just to name a few. Now these are his own taste and as you can see they are very diverse. I always told him to build his own taste. So he did. He followed me around in stores, listened to music, and I would stand along the side. I wouldn't knock him for anything so that way he wouldn't feel pressured and I'm proud of his wide range in music.

He (again without my interference) will openly tell you he HATES My Chemical Romance, Fall Out Boy, Blink-182, and Beastie Boys which all top his list.

I mean how many 10 year olds can you say even have taste to begin with?

Edit: He also wanted me to tell you guys The Beatles and Bob Dylan own. :p

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

hahaha, its funny your still trying to say your music is better cuz you can say its been heard by people for longer than newer music.. thats such an idiotic reason to base your reasoning on. of course your music has been heard for a longer time... its actually been around longer. so quit that one, it hurts your opinions merit, :)

[Scarlet_Fire]

the O.P. is clearly delusional. this is mainly because there is no basis of comparison outside of technical sophistication. That being said one could argue that thrash Metal is the "best" music of all time just because of the intensely difficult songs. but just saying that one type of music is "better" then another is a poor suggestion to make, based on the differing environments that each individual reader was raised in.

so go **** yourself OP and take your crappy music out to the nearest emo venue and empty your veins into the nearest toilet stall. oh and by the way just so nobody thinks i like metal, my favorite music is the Allman Brothers Band and Grateful Dead.

[Xzyliac]

hahaha, its funny your still trying to say your music is better cuz you can say its been heard by people for longer than newer music.. thats such an idiotic reason to base your reasoning on. of course your music has been heard for a longer time... its actually been around longer. so quit that one, it hurts your opinions merit, :)

I'm not saying mine is better. In fact if you check your PM I actually respect todays music very much.

What I'm saying is if the people who like it like it because they grew up with it what does that have to say about the people who didn't? Why can't people have different taste? Why are you stereotyping and asking us not to?

There are so many holes in your logic. I personally think people should just listen to whatever the hell they like.

Notice I have not *****ed about a single band. I am completely unbiased on the issue I'm just saying you have holes that need to be patched up before you go around complaining.

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

wow, your all so wrong. i'm so sad for you. really. my music is so much better than yours.. you guys really need to let go and just accept it. :)

[JukeBoxHero]

My facts drawn from the zombified part of my brain.

I couldn't help the urge, not with the way your spouting off complete absurdity .The facts you claim to have is YOUR opinion, it's not proven.

And this...


none i think we need some real music on this game, enough with your old crap. :)

All music is real, all compositions are solid. Old music didn't faded into the background.Music lies within the depths of your soul and your memory.

[Xzyliac]

wow, your all so wrong. i'm so sad for you. really. my music is so much better than yours.. you guys really need to let go and just accept it. :)

Well I guess I have to admit it. You're right. Your opinion is wins. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/ignorance)

Damn I've been wrong all these years. (http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/opinion)

Again dude I'm not upset and I'm not laying down my money on any side. All I'm saying is before I buy into your little cult of personality I need to know where your logic (not opinion but educated logic) comes from.

[Alphadown99]

I'm 16 and like old music. I am perfectly obligated to say whatever I want.. I knock your music for it is bad. Not because it is new.

Thank you for that fine statement, Blue Dragon. I'm only 13 and I only listen to music from the 70s and 80s, and maybe a little from the 90s. The best stuff is old stuff. New music overall mostly sucks, and I say that because I can because its a free country. I'm not going to say you have bad taste for listening to music I don't like. I get that some people like different kinds of music, it's just in my humble opinion that new music sux, though I respect people's taste in music.

[Julio_No_Mas]

hahaha, its funny your still trying to say your music is better cuz you can say its been heard by people for longer than newer music.. thats such an idiotic reason to base your reasoning on. of course your music has been heard for a longer time... its actually been around longer. so quit that one, it hurts your opinions merit, :)

Nobody's music is better, you're just a ******ed assshole who deserves to get doused in vodka and have Jimmy Page light the match on you.

[TheGrumpyHatter]

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

Please.

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

Nobody's music is better, you're just a ******ed assshole who deserves to get doused in vodka and have Jimmy Page light the match on you.

OH SNAP! harsh words there you.. hope you get banned. that really hurt my feelings... like really. i hold your opinions so high too. =(

according to everybody else, music IS better than other music.. soooo. you cant deny me of stating my music is better than yours (although it may not be, but actually it is) :D

[Xzyliac]

OH SNAP! harsh words there you.. hope you get banned. that really hurt my feelings... like really. i hold your opinions so high too. =(

according to everybody else, music IS better than other music.. soooo. you cant deny me of stating my music is better than yours (although it may not be, but actually it is) :D

And again that's why I haven't taken a side. Because he makes a point. Don't say "Hey your stupid music sucks," because that's doing what he's doing therefore proving him right.

I mean he obviously believes in this enough to attempt to put some logic under it. He deserves a fair argument.

[Will-san]

Dear NoMoreOldCrap Please name 5 New bands that you would like to see in the game.


One of the best things about Rockband is the potential for tons DLC. There is room in the game for a wide variety of music. Unfortunately Harmonix has to license the music and create note charts for every song, which is expensive so they need to be sure a song will sell reasonably well before they go to the effort.They are going to want to make sure the music they put up plays well in the game and has legs. New music is risky, wasting time on this weeks hit single will be a mistake if the song will be forgotten by the time they get the note charts done. I don't hate new music I just want Harmonix to focus on getting great music into the game rather than trendy music. If this weeks hot new single has legs and is still getting airplay in a year or two then by all means, stick it in the game.

[Kingfish]

wow, your all so wrong. i'm so sad for you. really. my music is so much better than yours.. you guys really need to let go and just accept it. :)

I am truely disappointed in my fellow forum members...why hasn't the TROLL alert been sounded before now.

Arguing with this kid is like agruing with the grass in your yard;

"Your green."

"Nope."

Yes you are!"

No am not and you can't prove it."

Pointless to argue with someones opinion...you want to say your music is the best...prove it.

Now move along folks and you...isn't there a bridge you need to climb back under? I hear there are goats trying to cross it even as we type...

[tombrady]

Looking through your post history, Mr. NoMoreOldCrap, I've noticed a lot of bashing older music, yet you have never given an alternative of what YOU prefer.

So I have 3 potential theories here:

1) The OP is indeed 20 or more years old, but he simply created a new account to **** with you.

2) The OP is 10 or 11 years old (as his typing would suggest) and is just being an obnoxious little kid.

3) The OP is pants-on-head ******ed.

[KingofQUEEN48]

**** new music! go Queen, Led Zeppelin, Aerosmith, rollingstones. beatles,acdc, pink floyd, the who...and so on!(and im 15:p)

[0tj]

I'm 14 and i think my generations music sucks. More old stuff would be great. Today's music is crap.



OMGZ!!11 old people go away with your crappy old music!!!!1 and evil opinions! :eek:
when you were young (if you can still remember) your parents hated your music and said it sucked (although i might agree thats beyond the point.. or maybe it makes for a better point?) now we're the younger ones and your old and u say our music sucks.. well seems a bit hypocritical.

the truth is every generation has their own taste in music (overall)
and even more so, everybody has their own unique favorites

so please, lets all be adults about this and not argue about how crappy music is

dont bash us and we wont bash you, :)
of course i know nothing will change, but i figure the more we say it, the closer we can get to shoving it into those thick skulls of yours :)

You are a hypocrite. Why are you even fighting about this? You constantly contradict yourself and discredit us. Yet all you are managing to do is make yourself look like an idiot.

EDIT: I think this guy has a split personality, because he has posts against old music, then he posts again, answering his own post in favor of old music.

[Renegade1007]

http://tn3-1.deviantart.com/300W/images3.deviantart.com/i/2004/111/0/e/Don__t_feed_the_Troll.jpg

Please.


Yea, he's really just doing this to get a kick now.....

[DrewP_85]

I'm 16 and like old music. I am perfectly obligated to say whatever I want.. I knock your music for it is bad. Not because it is new.

Well said!

[NoMoreOldCrap!]

I'm 14 and i think my generations music ROCKS. More NEW stuff would be great. YESTERDAY'S music is crap.

i agree, :)

[Julio_No_Mas]

OH SNAP! harsh words there you.. hope you get banned. that really hurt my feelings... like really. i hold your opinions so high too. =(

according to everybody else, music IS better than other music.. soooo. you cant deny me of stating my music is better than yours (although it may not be, but actually it is) :D

You'll get banned because you didn't think before making this flame-baiting thread. Hm, you know, maybe that'll spark too much argument. Obviously you are a no-brained waste of flesh that couldn't process thought even if your best friend was Einstein. You can't even say it's just your opinion, you state it as fact, and it's not.

[blackknight76]

He doesn't have an opinion, he's just a dirty bastard who doesn't even have enough confidence to post his own favorite or most wanted bands...

[dave93]

Im 13 and I hate this crappy music they have today. SOAD is the ONLY new music that is good.

That's where you're wrong. You need to open your musical horizons, so to speak. If you think soad's the only worthy music of today, you really don't know anything about music. Tool, Clutch, QOTSA (and not just b/c of tres' and sietes'), White Stripes, Weezer circa 10 years ago, Electric Six, Dog Fashion Disco. They're all creative, mostly non-mainstream artists who actually write not brain-deadening music. I'm not saying you can't have your own opinion - just don't make such ridiculous claims as if they are fact.

P.S. I love mostly older music. Hendrix, Stones, AIC, Sabbath/Ozzy, Cream/Clapton, Jethro Tull, Zeppelin, Pink Floyd, Steve Miller, Beatles, Doors, Stooges, etc. Also, the Offspring, the Cult kinda, Chili Peppers, Tool/Perfect Circle to name a few newer ones.

[Xzyliac]

I have to say after talk with Crap! via PM he's not that bad and you're all proving his point. The lot of you are battling opinion with opinion. Phail.

I have no problem with this gens music (go beyond emo/pop punk and a little towards the indie realm) and he does sound like a troll but the point of this thread has been met. Alot of modern rock bashing is done with opinion. But this music is still rock.

That said he's exagerrating his point (and tone) for a reason.

[tombrady]

I have to say after talk with Crap! via PM he's not that bad and you're all proving his point. The lot of you are battling opinion with opinion. Phail.

I have no problem with this gens music (go beyond emo/pop punk and a little towards the indie realm) and he does sound like a troll but the point of this thread has been met. Alot of modern rock bashing is done with opinion. But this music is still rock.

That said he's exagerrating his point (and tone) for a reason.
Actually, he's not really giving us his favorite music...he's just bashing all old music.

He's probably not as much of a moron as his posts indicate, but he's still a failure at trolling.

[Xzyliac]

Actually, he's not really giving us his favorite music...he's just bashing all old music.

That I do agree with. Specifics would be nice but all in all the fact still remains. We can't state opinion as fact and then say he can't.

His logic has holes, his tone is exagerrated, his approach is questionable, but his point has merit.

[NX013]

Heres the deal Im 14 and like classic bands and some new band (bang camaro, later MCR, priestess.) But since you seem that your music is better, tell us what bands you say are so high and mighty. We've all listed our own, so why don't you do the same, the reason for this is to show you that every single crap band was influenced by on of the greats ( panic at the disco was influenced by Queen for example) so why don't you stop compalining and tell us what you like.

[XrossoveR]

sooo.. now that i've got a lot of attention. and hopefully people realize how innapropriate it is to judge other peoples music. i guess i'll let you all know what i like. and by the way, i'm totally expecting trash from people but just so they know. those who trash me, after complaining on this thread, for about 7 pages now, of being trashed for their own musical taste.. those people will be the biggest hypocrites of them all.

also, i know there's probably a lot of people that sometimes might want to be polite in saying, i don't like your music, or maybe just want to say it in the least hurtful way. it's very hard to not hit somebody personally when your talking/judging their music. sooo, if u don't like certain music from them, just don't say anything really. i mean these threads are more to see what people want, not what people don't want. so if more people want your music then good for you, you'll get your songs. no need to suggest no. just suggest yes on the ones you do like. you know?

sooo.. my list, :D (of bands i LIKE, not what i think should neccesarily be on RB)

Linkin Park (of course)
Evanescence
Three Days Grace
Three Doors Down
Yellowcard
My Chemical Romance
the Killers
Fallout Boy
Weezer
Paramore
Avril Lavigne
Nickelback
Flyleaf
Garbage
OK Go
Coheed and Cambria
U2
Trapt
Green Day
Good Charlotte
Disturbed
He Is Legend
Senses Fail
Finger Eleven
Jimmy Eat World
Sum 41
Relient K
Switchfoot
30 Seconds to Mars
Story of the Year
Matchbox 20
Hinder
Avenge Sevenfold
Seether
Daughtry
Foo Fighters
the All-American Rejects
Lifehouse
blink-182
Creed
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Papa Roach
Breaking Benjamin
the Fray
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Muse
P.O.D.
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead

and now i've run out of bands to think of but i like them ALL. although it may be all from 1990's - 2000's, i consider that a pretty wide variety of music.

[XrossoveR]

one last/quick thing. when i started playing rock band there were a bunch of songs i liked and a bunch of songs i didnt like. when i came onto the forums, they had a listing of the songs by decade. every single song from the 90's - 00's i liked. and everything below that i disliked. so that's just to show you that i deffinetly dont like it because its new or dislike it because it's old. i already disliked those songs before i even knew what time they were from.

[blue_dragonzero]

sooo.. now that i've got a lot of attention. and hopefully people realize how innapropriate it is to judge other peoples music. i guess i'll let you all know what i like. and by the way, i'm totally expecting trash from people but just so they know. those who trash me, after complaining on this thread, for about 7 pages now, of being trashed for their own musical taste.. those people will be the biggest hypocrites of them all.

also, i know there's probably a lot of people that sometimes might want to be polite in saying, i don't like your music, or maybe just want to say it in the least hurtful way. it's very hard to not hit somebody personally when your talking/judging their music. sooo, if u don't like certain music from them, just don't say anything really. i mean these threads are more to see what people want, not what people don't want. so if more people want your music then good for you, you'll get your songs. no need to suggest no. just suggest yes on the ones you do like. you know?

sooo.. my list, :D (of bands i LIKE, not what i think should neccesarily be on RB)

Linkin Park (of course)
Evanescence
Three Days Grace
Three Doors Down
Yellowcard
My Chemical Romance
the Killers
Fallout Boy
Weezer
Paramore
Avril Lavigne
Nickelback
Flyleaf
Garbage
OK Go
Coheed and Cambria
U2
Trapt
Green Day
Good Charlotte
Disturbed
He Is Legend
Senses Fail
Finger Eleven
Jimmy Eat World
Sum 41
Relient K
Switchfoot
30 Seconds to Mars
Story of the Year
Matchbox 20
Hinder
Avenge Sevenfold
Seether
Daughtry
Foo Fighters
the All-American Rejects
Lifehouse
blink-182
Creed
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Papa Roach
Breaking Benjamin
the Fray
Yeah Yeah Yeahs
Muse
P.O.D.
Nine Inch Nails
Radiohead

and now i've run out of bands to think of but i like them ALL. although it may be all from 1990's - 2000's, i consider that a pretty wide variety of music.

Some of those were great.

[voodoo idol]

People who grew up listening to The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Genesis, Yes, the Clash, the Sex Pistols, Elvis Costello, etc. were at least operating in a genre that used the same instruments today's bands used.




I just wanted to point out that people who grew up listening to "The Beatles, Pink Floyd, The Rolling Stones, Led Zeppelin, Queen, Genesis, Yes," were most likely NOT listening to "the Clash, the Sex Pistols, Elvis Costello" as well. :D (I now this wasn't the point you were making, but I found it funny anyway)

[voodoo idol]

Some of those were great.

So, so not true. It's about 99% pop garbage.

[blue_dragonzero]

So, so not true. It's about 99% pop garbage.

I didn't say how many sucked for a reason.

[Magnus]

Wait, you're telling adults to be adults when you're whining..?