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futurejp
09-11-2009, 04:07 PM
Hi,

In addition to playing regular BRB, I also play guitar, and with these games I often like to start up a song in no-fail mode as if I'm going to play the guitar part, and then just put the controller down (so none of the guitar notes are played), then play along to the song on real guitar. In BRB, I've gone to the main menu and turned sound effects and crowd noise down to 0 (all the way to the left), turned on performance mode, went to quick play and turn on no-fail mode, then chose a song. It works fine...except that every time I "miss" a note that it expects me to play, it makes that clangy sound even though I've turned sound effects off, and I obviously don't want to hear that. I just want to hear everything but the guitar so I can play it myself.

Is there no way to fully turn off that sound effect?

Thanks

T-Hybrid
09-11-2009, 04:08 PM
Wait...what? The "clang" sound for a missed note is only if you mis-strum. If you don't play ANYTHING you should just have a bunch of red notes pop up.

veng
09-11-2009, 04:10 PM
You can always use a microphone for that - there are no "clangy" sounds then.

SonicRocker15X
09-11-2009, 04:13 PM
You can always use a microphone for that - there are no "clangy" sounds then.

You don't understand though: He wants to mute the guitar as well so that he can play along.

Anyway, you shouldn't be hearing them at all actually.
Like T Hybrid said, that's only if you mis-strum in game.

futurejp
09-11-2009, 04:13 PM
Wait...what? The "clang" sound for a missed note is only if you mis-strum. If you don't play ANYTHING you should just have a bunch of red notes pop up.

Idno man...I'm sitting right here, I just did it again. I started 'Something', then just put the controller down. At first, while I'm in the green, no clangy sounds happen. But then after I miss a handful of notes and get into the yellow, they happen every time I don't play a note. Then into the red a bit it stopped, and when the meter reached the bottom (when I would normally fail) they start again.

Belcebu
09-11-2009, 04:18 PM
I thought it only made that sound if you mis-strum. I'll check it out later.

kirward_derby
09-11-2009, 04:23 PM
I noticed that yesterday with "Getting Better"--I put it on Performance Mode and had a guitar handy, so I selected guitar and didn't play. It gave me a bunch of clangy sounds. Kind of hurts people's expectations of getting to listen to a guitar-less mix of certain songs.

travmeatwad
09-11-2009, 05:16 PM
Practice mode? Maybe that'll do something.

ghostofjarjar
09-11-2009, 07:31 PM
This is just another copy protection tactic, thus no play along guitar-less, bass-less, drum-less versions. If you don't play any notes, in a few seconds the sounds go haywire.

RoboEnigma
09-11-2009, 09:28 PM
Exactly. It will only start making that noise after you miss a few. The Beatles sent encrypted tracks over to Harmonix to do the original note tracking for this purpose. I believe they were afraid of unauthorized sampling, that hasn't changed now. I was kind of curious how they would get around it so I decided to do it.

You could try putting in two guitars and having one person play bass and have the guitar fail out, that should mute the sound for a bit maybe? Not sure, it was probably one of the stipulations for getting this game made, so we'll just have to deal.

odd-props
09-11-2009, 09:48 PM
Very soon we will all be able to break apart any song into individual tracks using a cheaper version of the same software they used to split up the old pre-multi-track recordings.

CNN: Can you tell us about the processes of separating the various parts of the songs, how difficult was that process?

Martin: Well, I don't know if anyone is aware, but the way these games work is you control guitar, bass and drums, if you don't play the bass correctly you don't hear the bass. The biggest problem for us is that a lot of the Beatles stuff isn't recorded separately, they started recording on two tracks, so the Cavern club which is "Twist and Shout," "I Saw Her Standing There," for instance, "Boys" is on two tracks -- all of the drums, bass and guitars together. And so we had someone here at Abbey Road, a guy named Simon Gibson and an engineer called Paul Hicks who filtered everything and so separated, made what would have been multitracks out of one track, if that makes sense ... so created new separate mixes. So when you don't play the bass in "Twist and Shout" you don't hear the bass. Sort of like taking your voice off an answer phone message with having the background still on.

BeatlesGuy
09-13-2009, 08:43 PM
Hey guys! I'm so glad I found this thread. I play drums and am having a blast playing the Beatles Rock Band, but when I play along with my electronic drums during a drums practice session for one of the songs the clickity-clack missed-note sounds do start to ruin the experience. I've found the same applies to bass and guitar.

If anyone finds a way around this it would be great--for now I've found that just hitting a RB drum pad every 5 seconds or so keeps it at bay...

ArchangelZero
09-13-2009, 08:46 PM
Hey guys! I'm so glad I found this thread. I play drums and am having a blast playing the Beatles Rock Band, but when I play along with my electronic drums during a drums practice session for one of the songs the clickity-clack missed-note sounds do start to ruin the experience. I've found the same applies to bass and guitar.

If anyone finds a way around this it would be great--for now I've found that just hitting a RB drum pad every 5 seconds or so keeps it at bay...

It's an anti-sampling/copying issue. There's no way to turn it off.

monkeyfish
09-13-2009, 08:47 PM
I think you can turn on no-fail and then go to easy vocals? Unless they have some Abbey Road engineer gagging every few seconds if you don't sing. :D I haven't even checked to see if you can turn the instrument volume down, but I somewhat doubt it...

ArchangelZero
09-13-2009, 09:11 PM
I think you can turn on no-fail and then go to easy vocals? Unless they have some Abbey Road engineer gagging every few seconds if you don't sing. :D I haven't even checked to see if you can turn the instrument volume down, but I somewhat doubt it...

He's talking about drums and guitars (bass and regular)

It's not possible.

Mysterio897
03-13-2010, 09:26 PM
Very soon we will all be able to break apart any song into individual tracks using a cheaper version of the same software they used to split up the old pre-multi-track recordings.


Ermmm.......I hate to break it to you, The software aint easy its called a Spectral Editor and you even sometimes even have to guess where things are and some things will be the same frequency and almost impossible to remove. Dont beleive the technologys out there? Buy Adobe Audition:p

gamegyro56
03-13-2010, 09:30 PM
Ermmm.......I hate to break it to you, The software aint easy its called a Spectral Editor and you even sometimes even have to guess where things are and some things will be the same frequency and almost impossible to remove. Dont beleive the technologys out there? Buy Adobe Audition:p

necropost wtf?

Also Welcome to the Forums, i guess...

theINC
03-13-2010, 10:11 PM
Yeah, the technology exists for splitting instrumentals into their respective instruments, but it's hit and miss and requires long amounts of time to get a passable multi-track. I'd hazard a guess that they'd spend at least a few days of full-time work at Abbey Road on each song.