Best punk band ever.

[Bowiefanperson]

what do you think is the best Punk Band ever, I say the stooges (I don't count the clash because they became much more all around rock and roll and ska then Punk, otherwise it would be them, you can count them though). They had the best frontman and were pretty much the first real Punk Band.

[afterstasis]

husker du, and if they're too alt/post-punk then amebix it is.

[tridentgum0]

My favorites:

The Clash
Stiff Little Fingers
Amebix
Leftover Crack
Television (of course, I'm counting post punk)
Joy Division
(early) The Replacements
Dead Kennedys
Bad Brains
Black Flag
New York Dolls
Husker Du

[ArmsAreLoud]

The Offspring.

It would be The Clash, but they aren't punk.

[Fizzeler]

Husker Du as well if they do not count then early Replacements

[Rocket2Russia]

My favorites are pretty similar to tridentgum0's.

The Clash
The Ramones
The Sex Pistols
Bad Religion
Bad Brains
Black Flag
Joy Division
Television
Dead Kennedys
The Replacements
The Buzzcocks
The Stooges

I've never heard Husker Du, but I've heard much praise for them. Any albums to start with?

[Reverse]

Television, followed extremely closely by Joy Division.

[timmay9]

I've never heard Husker Du, but I've heard much praise for them. Any albums to start with?

I'd say Zen Arcade. You won't be disappointed.


As for the question, I'll say Joy Division.

[supernova1324]

I've never heard Husker Du, but I've heard much praise for them. Any albums to start with?

Zen Arcade. Now.

Husker Du is my favorite punk band, and like stasis said, if they are too alt/post-punl then i go with Against! Me.

[Tank9088]

Dead Kennedys,FFFRV is my favorite punk album.

[Runesmith]

The Jam. Paul Weller is the most overlooked songwriter in the history of popular music, IMO. X is probably my runner-up.

[a21schizoidman]

can't name just one, The Dead Kennedys, Television, The Jam, Husker Du, Eve 6 (yeah, not the best, but i love 'em), The Clash, too many great bands

[Lameboy19]

Black Flag my favorite punk band

[gusano311]

pistols,ramones,groovie ghoulies,les stiches,pennywise,misfits,bad brains,mr t experience,the q u e e rs,and assorted jelly beans.

[a_bull_on_parade]

pistols,ramones,groovie ghoulies,les stiches,pennywise,misfits,bad brains,mr t experience,the q u e e rs,and assorted jelly beans.

Saw both of these bands live, Pennywise was decent but nothing amazing. The Q u ee r s played to themselfs and played this place sucks twice.....I used to love that song now it feels cheep like we only played it because we knew we had to *sigh* kinda vibe. My friend and I started yelling for a encore.....they came back, played one song realy fast then left.

Needless to say I don't like them nearly enough to call them one of the best.

[a_bull_on_parade]

Black Flag, NOFX, Bad Religion, Op Ivy, Chokeing Victim, D.O.A., DK, Ramones, Minor Threat, Good Charlotte.....ahhhahhhaaaaa

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

The Clash and Ramones. 2 of the most influential bands in punk and music in general

[seriousbusson]

The Offspring.

It would be The Clash, but they aren't punk.

But neither are The Offspring.

My favs include:
The Stooges
Television
Sex Pistols
The Clash
The Ramones
New York Dolls
Joy Division
Crass(not a single mention before me? Shame)
GG Allin
Dead Kennedys
Misfits(even if the metalheads ruin it for me)
Subhumans
GBH
Minor Threat
The Casualties
Leftover Crack

I love punk but haven't listened to as much of it in a while.

[JukeBoxHero]

Dead Kennedys for me so far through in my exploration of punk. There is this one band I want to check out I would put of here as well. They had an obnoxious looking name starting with an I but made up for it in the musical content.

[Hungryfreak]

Hüsker Dü, Dead Kennedys, Fugazi, Minutemen, Amebix, and Wipers are all up there for me.

[MrFruitLord]

Black Flag, Dead Kennedys, Bad Brains, Minor Threat, 7seconds, Crass, and Hellbastard.

As you can see, I tend to favor Hardcore Punk. I like some other forms though (Mainly Post Punk, and Crust Punk.)

[franticfish]

I'll go with Dead Kennedys, Black Flag and Amebix.

[DrewLee865]

Dead Kennedys

[mercury11]

Husker Du

[Punisher2191]

Misfits.

[neckermanncj]

almost all that have already been said

also Descendents, best Hardcore/Pop-Punk band

[chumsicles]

Dead Kennedys, followed by Black Flag and Husker Du

[neckermanncj]

Descendents & The Ergs!

best pop-punk bands :)

[bubblegumpop]

As of now I am favoring Authority zero...:p

[ChaseFV]

If only because they inspired so many other good bands - The Sex Pistols.

Surprised there's not more surf punk on the lists. What about the Cramps or the Dead Milkmen?

[afterstasis]

Surprised there's not more surf punk on the lists. What about the Cramps or the Dead Milkmen?

if i had listed more the dead milkmen would have probably been there (maybe in a top 20 or so?)... love 'em.

[thedaniel]

I'm torn between Dead Kennedys and Bad Brains.

[Steelerfreak1977]

On the few days a year when I feel like listening to punk I reach for The Damned.

[Bub]

Nirvana. Bleach is probably one of the best punk records of all time it's gotta be up their with either the Sex Pistols or Ramones debut.

[kiggidykev]

Ramones, for their era

Closely followed by Dead Kennedys and Offspring

[overcookedbacon]

Nirvana. Bleach is probably one of the best punk records of all time it's gotta be up their with either the Sex Pistols or Ramones debut.

Nirvana is not a punk band, and Bleach is not a punk album. Nirvana was influenced by punk and post-punk bands, but they themselves were not punk. That's like calling Radiohead a krautrock band because of Kid A... Just no.

Oh, and the obvious: Husker Du.

[Bowiefanperson]

Nirvana is not a punk band, and Bleach is not a punk album. Nirvana was influenced by punk and post-punk bands, but they themselves were not punk. That's like calling Radiohead a krautrock band because of Kid A... Just no.

Oh, and the obvious: Husker Du.


I disagree, what makes them not punk. They were influenced by punk, there songs aren't complicated, and grundge is just an era. They were a hardcore punk band, like 2nd generation Stooges (or 3rd generation with Sex Pistols and their like being 2nd generation)

[overcookedbacon]

I disagree, what makes them not punk.

Let's make it simple. Would you call the Pixies a punk band? How about Sonic Youth? Interpol?

For that matter, what actually makes Nirvana a punk band?

Also, grunge is most certainly a genre, and definitely not an era... Not that it matters though, since Nirvana weren't really grunge either.

[neckermanncj]

i have to go with OCB on this one, this argument is stupid, regardless of my neutrality about Nirvana

[chumsicles]

Let's make it simple. Would you call the Pixies a punk band? How about Sonic Youth? Interpol?


This

I wouldn't call any of those bands punk, though they certainly were influenced by it

[Bowiefanperson]

Let's make it simple. Would you call the Pixies a punk band? How about Sonic Youth? Interpol?

For that matter, what actually makes Nirvana a punk band?

Also, grunge is most certainly a genre, and definitely not an era... Not that it matters though, since Nirvana weren't really grunge either.

Nirvana sound nothing like Interpool, and they could still be influenced by non punk bands and still be punk. Just look at the kinks and the Velvet Underground, not punk, but extremely influential to the genre.

[overcookedbacon]

Nirvana sound nothing like Interpool, and they could still be influenced by non punk bands and still be punk. Just look at the kinks and the Velvet Underground, not punk, but extremely influential to the genre.

That's kinda my point. Interpol is a post-punk revival band, which basically means they're closer to punk than Nirvana ever was, and yet no one in their right mind would actually call them a punk band. Why? Because they're too far removed from the genre to still be a part of it, just like Nirvana.

I don't get what you're trying to accomplish with that example either. If anything you've only helped prove my point.

No one answered my question: What exactly makes Nirvana a punk band?

[RonnieWood]

Are we talking about pure Punk or Post-Punk, because if just pure Punk, some of you need to rethink. Anyway, Husker Du. Nothing new to add here, but glad to see this forum has good taste.

[dabears116]

Husker Du is definitely my favorite, with Everything Falls Apart being my favorite punk album. I'm not into obscure punk stuff so I can't give the best answer, but my runner up would be Minor Threat.


I disagree, what makes them not punk.The audible qualities.


and grundge is just an era.No it's definitely a genre, many people just associate grunge with the big 4 which had many non-grunge songs (later Soundgarden and Nirvana for example)


They were a hardcore punk band.Are you trolling or are you just an idiot?

[Lithuanian_Boy]

and ska

Every time I see the word ska I have to say it aloud. It sounds so cool.

[dabears116]

I forgot about Amebix, although they are equally speed metal with sometimes doom metal moments. If we can go as far as crust punk then I'll include Napalm Death, who had some really damn good anarcho/crust punk in their demo era, as well as 11 great grind songs (side-A of Scum)

[TheClashTheClashTheClash]

But neither are The Offspring.
My favs include:
The Stooges
Television
Sex Pistols
The Clash
The Ramones
New York Dolls
Joy Division
Crass(not a single mention before me? Shame)
GG Allin
Dead Kennedys
Misfits(even if the metalheads ruin it for me)
Subhumans
GBH
Minor Threat
The Casualties
Leftover Crack

I love punk but haven't listened to as much of it in a while.

Oh but they are (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KtvTeUkHSQU)

[Bowiefanperson]

Husker Du is definitely my favorite, with Everything Falls Apart being my favorite punk album. I'm not into obscure punk stuff so I can't give the best answer, but my runner up would be Minor Threat.

The audible qualities.

No it's definitely a genre, many people just associate grunge with the big 4 which had many non-grunge songs (later Soundgarden and Nirvana for example)

Are you trolling or are you just an idiot?

neither. They are just like the stooges (just a little bit faster and without as many instrumental parts and solos) who were a hardcore punk band.

[overdriveguitarman]

Rise Against :D

You don't have to agree!

[CyanFunk]

I stupidly thought that Rise Against were metal up until the pack was released

Tie between the Stooges/Iggy and the Ramones

[dabears116]

neither. They are just like the stooges (just a little bit faster and without as many instrumental parts and solos) who were a hardcore punk band.I'll take it you have never heard hardcore punk before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxB3b8CFZs

[YourGod]

the damned is the best real punk band. but you can't just not love post-punk bands like television,mission of burma and the fall.

[ROCKBANDFANATIC7526]

Bad Religion
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[Bowiefanperson]

I'll take it you have never heard hardcore punk before.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yMxB3b8CFZs

well they aren't much heavier then Nirvana or the stooges, Just that the production is a bit different and the song is much faster than the average stooges or nirvana song

[overcookedbacon]

well they aren't much heavier then Nirvana or the stooges, Just that the production is a bit different and the song is much faster than the average stooges or nirvana song

And? There's more to hardcore punk than just being heavy... Most metal is heavier than Minor Threat, but that doesn't make it punk.

[dabears116]

well they aren't much heavier then Nirvana or the stooges, Just that the production is a bit different and the song is much faster than the average stooges or nirvana songWhich is what makes it hardcore punk. Higher speed, rawer sound, and stripped down melody. Heaviness does not apply to hardcore punk.

[hmxhenry]

Which is what makes it hardcore punk. Higher speed, rawer sound, and stripped down melody. Heaviness does not apply to hardcore punk.

I think there's also something to hardcore punk that goes beyond the music that the bands play. It's part of the attitude. It's the DIY ethos, the stripped down, bare bones sensibility. The Minutemen don't sound as hard as Black Flag but they had that same set of ethics, that same self starting mentality, that same desire to live and die in the van. It's half sound and half attitude.

[LightningBolt]

I'm rather fond of The Replacements, UK Subs, and Misfits, personally.

[Bowiefanperson]

And? There's more to hardcore punk than just being heavy... Most metal is heavier than Minor Threat, but that doesn't make it punk.

would you consider the stooges a hardcore punk band then. Their production is more raw than sushi. Not to mention iggy pop was insane

[dabears116]

would you consider the stooges a hardcore punk band then. Their production is more raw than sushi. Not to mention iggy pop was insaneDon't look at it that way, look at it compared to other hardcore punk bands. If The Stooges are hardcore punk, then what genre are Minor Threat? They definitely can't be hardcore punk if The Stooges are.

[overcookedbacon]

would you consider the stooges a hardcore punk band then. Their production is more raw than sushi. Not to mention iggy pop was insane

No. In fact I'm hesitant to call The Stooges "punk" at all, let alone hardcore punk (not that The Stooges were bad).

[Bowiefanperson]

No. In fact I'm hesitant to call The Stooges "punk" at all, let alone hardcore punk (not that The Stooges were bad).

well I suppose if you look at punk like a scene (or many various scenes, like the london, L.A., New York scenes and such) then no they weren't, but if you can put a musical definition to it then I'd say they were punk.

[timmay9]

well I suppose if you look at punk like a scene (or many various scenes, like the london, L.A., New York scenes and such) then no they weren't, but if you can put a musical definition to it then I'd say they were punk.

They still weren't that different from other garage rock/proto-punk groups of the time. They still had a hard rock and a later glam edge to them.

[MrFruitLord]

Would crossover Thrash be allowed in this thread?

[a21schizoidman]

Don't look at it that way, look at it compared to other hardcore punk bands. If The Stooges are hardcore punk, then what genre are Minor Threat? They definitely can't be hardcore punk if The Stooges are.

Minor Threat! (orgasms)