For The PS3 Users Lacking A Second Guitar...

[cjkuhlenbeck]

Has noone heard of e-Bay? Just buy another Fender Strat, their better anyways (IMO) more options like smaller keys, and effects options.

[deediare]

Because apparently everyone is rich and can easily spend money left and right....

Plus, they can come out to about 70-80 dollars...better off just waiting...

[cjkuhlenbeck]

You just spent 170 USD on a game, money can't be that tight. Besides, i bet you'll want 2 fenders later on anyways. And i've seen them on ebay for 35 Buy It Now. And the Les Paul and xplorer arent decently sized, nor easy to use.

[Xerosnake90]

If the strat didn't have that crappy ass strum-bar, and the way the frets push down, I'd recommend it over a Les Paul. But for now, I do not.

I also agree that you should just get a second one off of ebay. If you can afford to buy the game yourself, you can afford a guitar sooner or later.

[Keebler]

Because apparently everyone is rich and can easily spend money left and right....

Plus, they can come out to about 70-80 dollars...better off just waiting...

Uh, this is a suggestion for people that want a second guitar and can't use the Les Paul. Not everyone.

[deediare]

You just spent 170 USD on a game, money can't be that tight. Besides, i bet you'll want 2 fenders later on anyways. And i've seen them on ebay for 35 Buy It Now. And the Les Paul and xplorer arent decently sized, nor easy to use.

Although I do strongly agree with you that the Strat is MUCH better the the Les Paul, please show me one auction that is "Buy it Now" that is under $60...

http://search.ebay.com/search/search.dll?sofocus=bs&sbrftog=1&dfsp=32&catref=C6&from=R10&_trksid=m37&satitle=Rock+Band+Fender+Guitar&sacat=-1%26catref%3DC6&sargn=-1%26saslc%3D2&sadis=200&fpos=91746&fbfmt=1&sabfmts=2&sacqyop=ge&sacqy=&ftrt=1&ftrv=1&saprclo=&saprchi=&sass=&fsop=32%26fsoo%3D2&coaction=compare&copagenum=1&coentrypage=search

[muskett32]

I'd rather wait until end of January and just buy one at the store.

[Ventura]

And i've seen them on ebay for 35 Buy It Now.

$35 buys you a guitar case mate. The cheapest buy it now price I can see for just the strat is $119, but hey if you're seeing something I'm not, a link would be nice. Having been observing the prices for a while now, you'll excuse me if I don't hold my breath.

One of the reasons the compatibility patch was in such demand is that not everyone prefers the strat as you do (plus, the strum bar dies a lot), and if anything I'd say people dropping $170 on this game aren't going to be in a hurry to spend more, not when several are already going to have a fully functional Les Paul collecting dust in the corner.

[DesiredFX]

Wow...$135 for a Buy It Now price.

If I was gonna pay that much to Buy It Now, I'd just head to Best Buy and get another bundle, then sell the drums, mic and game with a Buy It Now of...um...

...$350 sounds fair for that, right?

[Angel-Jin]

i don't wanna buy another guitar. i just bought a $100-ish and $170+ game, both of which use guitars. I haven't had a need for more than just one guitar yet, but it's always nice to know that the option to use the other guitar that just sits unused is actually useable if i need it/want to change.

and yes, money is tight. i only work part-time.

[Conner Malvecino]

i don't wanna buy another guitar. i just bought a $100-ish and $170+ game, both of which use guitars. I haven't had a need for more than just one guitar yet, but it's always nice to know that the option to use the other guitar that just sits unused is actually useable if i need it/want to change.

and yes, money is tight. i only work part-time.

Money is tight...but I consider that $170 WELL SPENT. I've spent more time studying drums and practicing my technique on the RB drumpads more in the last 4 weeks than the previous 2 years combined. Right now, it's my drum coach until I pass everything on expert(which will probably take another 3 months!) I'm seriously thinking of buying another bundle for drum duals at parties and obviously getting the extra strat for bass.

[cjkuhlenbeck]

Like Keebler said "this is a suggestion for people that want a second guitar and can't use the Les Paul. Not everyone." Besides, i ended up buying 2 sets after my drums cracked. After i saw all the delayed order posts, and "new sets are better" posts, i went out and just bought a whole new set. And not that it matters, but i've been forced to buy a whole mass of lil plastic guitars. I have 8 TOTAL. (2 PS2, 2 XBOX Xplorers, 2 Les Paul's, 2 Fender Strats). At the end of the day, it's just more toys to play with...

[dorri732]

. . . i've been forced to buy a whole mass of lil plastic guitars. . .

Who forced you?

[MaximusDM]

Who forced you?

Developers because they don't make guitars compatible with one another.

I currently have 1 original black SG, 1 red SG, 1 Les Paul controller, and 2 Strats.
Now if I want to play Guitar Hero III co-op I need to buy another Les Paul coming to a total of 6 guitars.

Funny, on the Xbox 360, you can own 2 Xplorers and play both Guitar Hero games released on it AND Rock Band. Funny how that works out.

[AlmeidaCTU]

I have the Les Paul (GH3 Wii) and the Fender strats (PS3 Rock Band) and the Les Paul is way better than the Fender because of the strum bar.

It's no problem for me to play "When you were young" (Killers) on 100% in GH3 on medium, but impossible to do so in Rock Band (even though it's easier in RockBand medium!). On the fast notes where you have to play the strumbar up and down very quickly in rhythm, the Fender just sucks! I got always a few errors there. This happens with every song, so I can finish all in medium with 4 or five stars, but not 100%.

It's also impossible with my Fender to keep the strum bar pushed when playing long notes (they just break up after a while from time to time). This would be ok for me because the workaround is to just push one time very quickly at the long ones.

Even in the menu I recognize that the Fender is just not accurate. Sometimes I have to push twice or hard to navigate. I guess I have one of those many guitars with this errors.

I read about a possible fix with the tape today and will try that this night. But as of now, the Les Paul is definetly my favorite choice. It's more accurate, more stable and you can put it in two halfs. Also the sensor works way better with the Wii!

[HMXDave]

It's also impossible with my Fender to keep the strum bar pushed when playing long notes (they just break up after a while from time to time). This would be ok for me because the workaround is to just push one time very quickly at the long ones.

Wait, you hold the strum bar down on sustain notes? You realize you're only supposed to keep the fret held down, right?

[riginal]

If I saw a buy it now at like $60 it would be mine, unfortunately the demand has pushed the price way higher than that. I've seen them up to $140 + $20 shipping (seriously, just buy another bundle if you're willing to go that high).

$35 is not a price at which someone can acquire a Strat.

[ShadowOfEden]

Only the X360 ones are cheaper, because the fact that you can use the LP really has dropped the rarity of the product.

[DesiredFX]

My living room looks like a miniturized version of Nigel Tufnel's showroom...

I bought GH with its SG controller. Liked the game so much that I went and got another SG. With the size of my TV, though, having wires was a pain, so I bought a React wireless. Hated it and returned it the next day. Ordered a wireless from RedOctane but when it accidentally got re-routed and took almost two weeks from ship date to arrival, I got impatient and bought a wireless RedOctane from EBGames.

At that point, I gave one of the wired SGs to a friend that had only one.

PS2 guitar count: 3, plus one I gave away.

Enter the PS3. I was determined not to buy GHIII until I confirmed that it would be compatible. It isn't, of course, but I still bought it based on hearing from several sources that it would be.

Picked up Rock Band three weeks later and had issues with the Strat, sent it off and due to a mix up ended up with two of them.

Current PS3 guitar count (until I figure out which Strat is better and send the other back): 3.

So, right now, I have six mini-guitars, primarily because of various compatibility issues--the only one that's really extraneous is the original wired SG, which would only get used in the case of a battery emergency.

I wasn't forced to buy them, per se, but the fact that three of them work on only one platform, and on the other platform, one works on one game and two work on the other, it's pretty close to being forced if I want to enjoy all the different games available.

[Xero314]

I have the Les Paul (GH3 Wii) and the Fender strats (PS3 Rock Band) and the Les Paul is way better than the Fender because of the strum bar.

It's no problem for me to play "When you were young" (Killers) on 100% in GH3 on medium, but impossible to do so in Rock Band (even though it's easier in RockBand medium!). On the fast notes where you have to play the strumbar up and down very quickly in rhythm, the Fender just sucks! I got always a few errors there. This happens with every song, so I can finish all in medium with 4 or five stars, but not 100%.

It's also impossible with my Fender to keep the strum bar pushed when playing long notes (they just break up after a while from time to time). This would be ok for me because the workaround is to just push one time very quickly at the long ones.


First why would you hold the strum bar down when playing a long note. Real guitarists don't keep the string pressed when they sustain a note. You keep the fret held and strum once at your normal speed.

Second it may be that you do better on Killers on GH3 over Rockband because the window which you have to strum in is gigantic on GH3 and smaller on RB. The Note charts in RB may be simpler but it is a harder game do to accuracy.

The only other issue is that some people do use the clicking sound of the strummer to help them keep timing. I personally prefer the silent strummer, but my wife would do much better with a noisy one.

[Nate Finch]

As others said, Guitars are not $35 on eBay, they're not even $80, they start at $120. For just the guitar. That's just too much of a premium for me. I'm tempted, but can't justify it. Heck, at $120, I might as well just buy another bundle, like DesiredFX said.

And like him, I, too, have a ton of guitars in my livingroom. 5 right now (6 when my replacement fender comes in).

[AlmeidaCTU]

First why would you hold the strum bar down when playing a long note. Real guitarists don't keep the string pressed when they sustain a note. You keep the fret held and strum once at your normal speed.
I know that you don't do it normally, but a lot of my friends complained about this and when I tried it I had to admit that they are right. In GH3, you can hold it down (or up) and it won't break in the middle. But whether you should do it or not, this fact shows that the Fender recognizes Strums where there are not any! (at least my one) Otherwise the sound would not break in the middle when holding the strumbar.

Sometimes pushing the strum bar down almost doesn't work at all, so I have to pull it all throughout the song in order to get the notes correct. This is not normal and not the timing, believe me... Why would it work by pulling and not by pushing?

As I said, I'll try this fix posted here and on YouTube, because I don't have a chance to return the guitar anyway (because I'm from germany).