B18C5 Tom
12-17-2007, 11:57 PM
First of all I can't take credit for the idea as I originally saw it posted here in this tech forum, but I made an adjustment to the original method posted. The OP replaced a rubber insulator in the drum head assembly with a US penny - I simply add one in and retain the original parts too. Anyways here goes.
I fixed my red pad drum issue with a very easy fix. It took me 5 minutes and cost me 1 penny. If you are not aware of the "red drum pad roll issue" simply browse the forum for two minutes, or try this simple test:
Go to practice mode and find any song with a long intro that doesn't include drums. I choose "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who and set the speed to 50%. This allows me to free drum for a long period of time, and you can hear the drums as you hit them. This also allows you to guage exactly how delayed the sound really is, but that's for another topic.
Now try fast rolls on every drum pad. Many people will report at least one pad, usually the red one, being unresponsive to the fast drum rolls/hits. Mine was only picking up every 4-5th hit so any song I played with a fast roll (tons of songs on expert) was losing scores and note streaks.
This method will work on any drum pad, but the middle two only have three accessable rubber plugs to push through the backside to remove them as opposed to the four rubber plugs on the red and green pads. Here goes.
1. Take the red drum pad off by either pulling it, or flipping the drum head assembly over and pushing the 4 rubber plugs through with a drumstick - the pad will pop off. Be careful not to rip it off too hard of quickly as the wires connecting it are crazy thin.
2. Once the pad is off you can see the center sensor in the pastic base of the drum head assembly. Remove the two phillips screws that hold an orange plastic piece that holds a spring against the sensor.
3. Once the orange spring base/holder is out of the way gently pull the sensor out of it's hole and be sure to keep the sliver of rubber stuck to it, or if it comes off put it back on.
4. Drop a penny in the base of the drum head asssembly where the sensor and rubber sliver were.
5. Make sure the rubber sliver/insulator is between the sensor and the penny, then reinstall everything as it came apart
6. Key reassembly points would be make sure not to overtighten the phillips screws that held the orange spring holder/base against the sensor, and also make sure the drum head is completely snapped back on - this can be guaged by how flat the head sits, and also if the rubber plugs stick through the drum head assembly equally.
I am 100% dead serious in saying it completely fixed my red drum pad issues. I am top 20 on a few songs playing on expert, and I found any fast rolls beforehand on the red drum pad were unresponsive.
After the fix (which I saw on here BTW - only difference is the original poster of this idea reaplaced the rubber sliver with a penny which is noisy) the red pad is as fast as I can roll, and my scores improved as well as my note streaks.
I also think it's noteworthy that I had applied for replacement drums before I did this mod so that if I broke anything I was covered, but here's the funny part:
I got my new drums last night and they suffer from the exact same red pad issue! WTF?!?
So the thing now is my original drums work only after I've modded them with a penny, but my brand new ones don't work. Go figure. So which ones do I send back? I mean on principle alone I should reapply for replacements and return the brand new, non working ones, but the problem is it could literally be a never ending affair. I know my original modded ones work, but only after I rigged them, which is ridiculous.
I fixed my red pad drum issue with a very easy fix. It took me 5 minutes and cost me 1 penny. If you are not aware of the "red drum pad roll issue" simply browse the forum for two minutes, or try this simple test:
Go to practice mode and find any song with a long intro that doesn't include drums. I choose "Won't Get Fooled Again" by The Who and set the speed to 50%. This allows me to free drum for a long period of time, and you can hear the drums as you hit them. This also allows you to guage exactly how delayed the sound really is, but that's for another topic.
Now try fast rolls on every drum pad. Many people will report at least one pad, usually the red one, being unresponsive to the fast drum rolls/hits. Mine was only picking up every 4-5th hit so any song I played with a fast roll (tons of songs on expert) was losing scores and note streaks.
This method will work on any drum pad, but the middle two only have three accessable rubber plugs to push through the backside to remove them as opposed to the four rubber plugs on the red and green pads. Here goes.
1. Take the red drum pad off by either pulling it, or flipping the drum head assembly over and pushing the 4 rubber plugs through with a drumstick - the pad will pop off. Be careful not to rip it off too hard of quickly as the wires connecting it are crazy thin.
2. Once the pad is off you can see the center sensor in the pastic base of the drum head assembly. Remove the two phillips screws that hold an orange plastic piece that holds a spring against the sensor.
3. Once the orange spring base/holder is out of the way gently pull the sensor out of it's hole and be sure to keep the sliver of rubber stuck to it, or if it comes off put it back on.
4. Drop a penny in the base of the drum head asssembly where the sensor and rubber sliver were.
5. Make sure the rubber sliver/insulator is between the sensor and the penny, then reinstall everything as it came apart
6. Key reassembly points would be make sure not to overtighten the phillips screws that held the orange spring holder/base against the sensor, and also make sure the drum head is completely snapped back on - this can be guaged by how flat the head sits, and also if the rubber plugs stick through the drum head assembly equally.
I am 100% dead serious in saying it completely fixed my red drum pad issues. I am top 20 on a few songs playing on expert, and I found any fast rolls beforehand on the red drum pad were unresponsive.
After the fix (which I saw on here BTW - only difference is the original poster of this idea reaplaced the rubber sliver with a penny which is noisy) the red pad is as fast as I can roll, and my scores improved as well as my note streaks.
I also think it's noteworthy that I had applied for replacement drums before I did this mod so that if I broke anything I was covered, but here's the funny part:
I got my new drums last night and they suffer from the exact same red pad issue! WTF?!?
So the thing now is my original drums work only after I've modded them with a penny, but my brand new ones don't work. Go figure. So which ones do I send back? I mean on principle alone I should reapply for replacements and return the brand new, non working ones, but the problem is it could literally be a never ending affair. I know my original modded ones work, but only after I rigged them, which is ridiculous.
