Harder Vocals Than RB2?

[RetroMonster]

I'm an expert vocalist and I can see the difference in complicated vocal styles of The Beatles RB Singing styles. Its completely harder. I can GS ever song except maybe two, on disc for RB2 and I can't barely get ONE Gs on the beatles disc. Has anyone noticed this?

[moviebuff1084]

Singing solo I find it as easy if not easier. Now harmony's is another story.

[Emalythe]

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=163593

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=158407

[Cliphead]

The second link has nothing to do with comparing difficulty to Rock Band 2.

The scoring is definitely stricter than Rock Band 2, and the way the arrows work, it's harder to tell when you're slightly off, especially on songs with wide ranges (in which the line appears to be even more narrow). On top of everything else, you don't have talkies to give you free points. I find myself playing on Hard more often but then I can 5-star almost any song, even in Performance Mode.

[Emalythe]

The second link has nothing to do with comparing difficulty to Rock Band 2.

Whoops, cut and pasted the wrong link.

[MistressD]

When I first saw the title, I was instantly "YES!" OMG, is it harder! I got a few GS's on my own; "While my Guitar Gently Weeps" and "Revolution" were the first, but it's nowhere RB2! I'm kinda glad though, it's almost too easy to GS vocals in RB2. RB1 on the other hand is too hard, I think Beatles is a nice middle. Still challenging without becoming impossible.

[SirDrexl]

Have you tried "Do You Want to Know a Secret" or "Yellow Submarine?" Those were the two easiest for me to get gold stars. "Here Comes the Sun" is another that wasn't too hard.

[rayrox222]

I find the pitches easier to identify with in beatles' singing though some of the harmonies are really tricky . . . harder to hear the pitches of singers in other rock bands because their singing isn't as clear and beautiful, frankly

another big factor making beatles easier to sing than bands in rb2 for me, as anohter person indicated, is that the arrow showing what pitch you're hitting doesn't wobble up and down rapidly like in rb2 so it's easier to figure out if I'm where I need to be or need to go higher or lower

and simply as a matter of personal preference I can't help but sing beatles' songs because they're so awesome and the way I'm drawn in has even got me enjoying mastering singing some in practice mode which also serves making the singing experience easier to learn in beatles RB whereas RB2 vocal practice is poorly done

[master2uall]

Yep vocals suck. I agree. So does wife.

[-Amayo-]

I can gold star pretty much any song on the Beatles Rock band, as long as it doesn't go too high or too low, it's on Rock Band two I have difficutlies on, actually. Harmonies though are just, impossible >.>

Getting those Double and Triple Fab achievements are going to be hell.

[CONAN9845]

I don't have a problem when singing solo. The harmonies are a major ***** to keep track of on one vocal "highway"! When we get three people singing, not only do the arrows melt together, but it's hard to see who's off their line based on all the crap going on around the arrows.

[CONAN9845]

Getting those Double and Triple Fab achievements are going to be hell.We've been doing the songs on easy, just to learn the harmonies, and have gotten a couple of them down towards the achievements. It sucks because only the player signed into the microphone gets credit if the others aren't playing an instrument. So we'll have to do them three times if we never learn them well enough to do while playing.

[rayrox222]

I don't have a problem when singing solo. The harmonies are a major ***** to keep track of on one vocal "highway"! When we get three people singing, not only do the arrows melt together, but it's hard to see who's off their line based on all the crap going on around the arrows.

Harmonies definitely isn't the sort of thing you can "wing it" with friends singing together unless you're all good singers with real experience and know what you're doing

I am not and most of my friends are not, but once we went to practice mode and sorted out who would sing what part we could get triple fabs when we played the song through! We could easily sort out who was msising their part because his arrow would be a distinctly different color

I still say the vocal aspect of beatles rock band is practically perfect, and I never cared for singing in previous RB games!

[Gryffindor]

I finally got to try harmonies last night with my oldest daughter. We were laughing the entire time because one of us would accidentally sing the other's harmony line and then switch back. It became a battle of arrows going up and down.

For those that are having problems with solo vocals the best advice I can give is to turn your mic's sensitivity up. The settings are drastically different than in RB1/2. You'll also have to get used to holding the notes a bit longer than you have to in RB1/2. The pie does fill up slower.

I'm truly thankful that they eliminated scoring for talky parts and that there are no tambourine/cowbell sections in any of the songs.

[CONAN9845]

Harmonies definitely isn't the sort of thing you can "wing it" with friends singing together unless you're all good singers with real experience and know what you're doingI don't know how to take that. :( We're not "winging it", and we've all been singing since the dawning days of RB1. I am exclusively an Expert vocalist, and find it to be the easiest station for me to attain Gold Stars. I have also been listening to the Beatles songs for 30 years, singing right along with them.


I am not and most of my friends are not, but once we went to practice mode and sorted out who would sing what part we could get triple fabs when we played the song through! We could easily sort out who was msising their part because his arrow would be a distinctly different colorWell, that's good for you, then. We are having distinct trouble telling who's not on their line, particularly when they are all bunched up, or even worse, start overlapping each other. It's less about the arrows (although they could have made them more distinct... the first and third are decent), and more about the sparkling trail BEHIND the arrows caused by two players hitting their lines. We have trouble seeing who's off.


I still say the vocal aspect of beatles rock band is practically perfect, and I never cared for singing in previous RB games!I sing all the time in all RB games, and while I agree that's it's "practically perfect", I would have loved to have some arrangement options for singing harmonies.

[rayrox222]

I don't know how to take that. :( We're not "winging it", and we've all been singing since the dawning days of RB1. I am exclusively an Expert vocalist, and find it to be the easiest station for me to attain Gold Stars. I have also been listening to the Beatles songs for 30 years, singing right along with them.



Well, that's good for you, then. We are having distinct trouble telling who's not on their line, particularly when they are all bunched up, or even worse, start overlapping each other. It's less about the arrows (although they could have made them more distinct... the first and third are decent), and more about the sparkling trail BEHIND the arrows caused by two players hitting their lines. We have trouble seeing who's off.


I am having trouble understanding the problem. If two arrows are overlapping and you guys have sorted it out like "ok, you take lead (blue), I'll take harmony 1 (yellow), and you take harmony 2 (red), you know whoever's overlapping on a line you agreed beforehand he's not to sing is the one who's messing up. When I said you can't really wing it unless you're awesome I didn't mean that as offense so much as the singers need to all be wary of what pitches they need to hit and do so competently AND each needs to be aware of what part is his because typically when people just "wing it" it happens like that other person posted where they start singing each other's parts and then get confused who has what part.

One way it can be very easy to tell who's messing up, if say, you're getting double fabs and are not sure who's messing up the triple fabs, drill that particular section in the practice mode. Try each of you soloiong your particular part and see who isn't getting fabulous on their part. Not only can you play a section of a song in practice mode, but you can put the score on lead/harmonies, lead, harmony 1, or harmony 2. If someone is scoring 100% on a section, as you probably know, that means they hit fabulous on every phrase. Whichever singer isn't pulling that off needs to figure out what he's doing wrong and fix that. Practice mode is the answer!



I sing all the time in all RB games, and while I agree that's it's "practically perfect", I would have loved to have some arrangement options for singing harmonies.

What do you mean by "arrangement options"? If it's anything like forcing mic 1, mic 2, and mic 3 "binding" in a sense one to lead, one to harmony 1, and the other to harmony 2, I am personally opposed to this mechanic as I much prefer that the singers can trade off parts even in the middle of songs. That for me has been exceptionally fun to do! After all with friends there are plenty of songs where at some times they want to take a verse and I prefer the harmony and in others it's the other way around; even within a single song! Now if each mic was bound via arrangement to a particular singing line the singers wouldn't have this awesome freedom and would be stuck singing something they didn't want to unless they did something like trade off microphones mid song which gets impractical when you're like me and my friends oftentimes singing while playing an instrument.

But maybe I misunderstood what you mean by arrangement options