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Highflyer23
10-31-2009, 12:43 PM
I thought licensing Hendrix was almost impossible, the only way Guitar Hero got it was by making Hendrix in the game. Also does this mean we might see some Hendrix DLC?

meck77
10-31-2009, 12:44 PM
Beatin to death already!!! this topic that is

Flawless
10-31-2009, 01:02 PM
My guess is through negotiation.

HeyRiles
10-31-2009, 01:03 PM
Through the power of negotiation

EDIT: DARN IT!

Lone Bulldogs
10-31-2009, 01:04 PM
They just had the Ghost Hunters ask Jimi. He said it was cool and the rest is history.

Julio_Strikes_Back
10-31-2009, 01:04 PM
Lots and lots of money.

BayouBengal032
10-31-2009, 02:00 PM
I though I read something around GHWT's release that both companies were in talks with the Hendrix estate and GH just got it first or something.

SonicRocker15X
10-31-2009, 02:18 PM
I though I read something around GHWT's release that both companies were in talks with the Hendrix estate and GH just got it first or something.

This, as well as the fact that the Hendrix character was Neversoft's idea which they trapped themselves in.

Wrathy
10-31-2009, 02:26 PM
One man.

Dave Grohl.

Doc_SoCal
10-31-2009, 02:28 PM
Welcome to the Rockband Forums.

In this world, impossible just means it has not been done yet.

Forever is a mighhty long time, so everything is possible eventually.

LuigiHann
10-31-2009, 03:09 PM
This, as well as the fact that the Hendrix character was Neversoft's idea which they trapped themselves in.

Yeah. I'm sure the only-playable-as-Hendrix-character thing was part of their specific contract

Poncho
10-31-2009, 03:10 PM
It's not actually Jimmy Hendrix its a cover that David Grohl put together.

Cliphead
10-31-2009, 04:13 PM
My first thought was a Lego Jimi Hendrix, but a video that leaked implies otherwise.

lotr rocks 0
10-31-2009, 05:21 PM
It's not actually Jimmy Hendrix its a cover that David Grohl put together.


^this isn't important, because every song in rock band to date is a cover by Dave Grohl! :P

Jdurgit
10-31-2009, 05:27 PM
I think that initially, before the rhythm game genre had exploded, the Hendrix Estate was probably hesitant to include Jimi's songs in the game. After they started seeing how much money was being generated by these games and how it was exposing his music to new generations of people, the estate started changing their mind. Throw in the fact that RB is such a high quality example of this genre and that the company behind it are musicians first, and videogamers second, the estate probably no longer sees it as a "bad" thing for Hendrix' name to be tied to.

Legion37
10-31-2009, 09:07 PM
Something I would like to point out is that ACTs Jimi Hendrix is tied ONLY to WT, including DLC, and can not be exported to other titles, while LEGO/Rockband Jimi Hendrix is exportable...as far as we know anyway lol.

I think thats pretty significant in itself. I think Act. is losing the interest of alot of artists.

I also believe sooner than later we will see Hendrix in the DLC, if not early next year.

ArmsAreLoud
10-31-2009, 09:12 PM
I think people forgot that the dude who owns the rights to Hendrix's songs isn't a musician, so there's none of the silly pretensions we get from guys like Jimmy Page. Any idiot can get the songs, it's just a matter of how much money you need to throw at the guy.

Schultzy
10-31-2009, 10:11 PM
Forever is a mighty long time...

...but I'm here to tell you there's something else; The Afterworld. A world of never-ending happiness. You can always see the sun, day or night. So when you call up that shrink in Beverly Hills, you know the one; Doctor Everything-will-be-alright. Instead of asking him how much of your time is left, ask him how much of your mind, baby. Cause in this life, things are much harder than in the Afterworld. In this life, you're on your own.

And if the elevator tries to break you down; go crazy! Punch a higher floor!
-Prince, Let's Go Crazy

Sorry bout that. Absolute first thing that popped into my head. You may now return to your regularly scheduled thread proceedings. :D

Reaver
10-31-2009, 10:23 PM
Something I would like to point out is that ACTs Jimi Hendrix is tied ONLY to WT, including DLC, and can not be exported to other titles, while LEGO/Rockband Jimi Hendrix is exportable...as far as we know anyway lol.

I think thats pretty significant in itself. I think Act. is losing the interest of alot of artists.

I also believe sooner than later we will see Hendrix in the DLC, if not early next year.

And actually be a decent pack unlike what Activision threw out. I have faith that when and if we get more Hendrix it will be a LARGE pack with nothing but the really good stuff and several deeper cuts to please the die-hard fans. That is unless the pack is a 10-pack. But I think the best way to approach a Hendrix pack would be to do what they did with The Who.

Ferocious Q
10-31-2009, 10:29 PM
That is a secret. Dave Grohl only knows the answer!

Xzyliac
10-31-2009, 10:40 PM
I think that initially, before the rhythm game genre had exploded, the Hendrix Estate was probably hesitant to include Jimi's songs in the game. After they started seeing how much money was being generated by these games and how it was exposing his music to new generations of people, the estate started changing their mind. Throw in the fact that RB is such a high quality example of this genre and that the company behind it are musicians first, and videogamers second, the estate probably no longer sees it as a "bad" thing for Hendrix' name to be tied to.

THIS!

The Hendrix estate claims they found the masters just in time for GH:WT but it seem really convenient. Also the story of how and where they found the masters is major sketchy.

As for the exportation I just don't think Neversoft wanted to shell out twice for the license. Harmonix probably presented them with the exporting notion right from the get go and was able to work out a deal.

Reaver
10-31-2009, 10:49 PM
HMX spent time and made a deal that both parties argeed was acceptable. A deal that sees his songs being played by people other than Jimi himself and across several games. Activision went to the Hendrix estate and was all gung-ho on getting any Hendrix track they could as quickly as possible, throwing in the fact that if they did, only Jimi would play his songs on the game. Sort of an incentive to dish out the songs ASAP.

I really like how HMX approaches bands about including their music in their game. I just wish Jimmy Page would see that and understand. One of these days though...

Mikey35
10-31-2009, 10:58 PM
HMX spent time and made a deal that both parties argeed was acceptable. A deal that sees his songs being played by people other than Jimi himself and across several games. Activision went to the Hendrix estate and was all gung-ho on getting any Hendrix track they could as quickly as possible, throwing in the fact that if they did, only Jimi would play his songs on the game. Sort of an incentive to dish out the songs ASAP.

I really like how HMX approaches bands about including their music in their game. I just wish Jimmy Page would see that and understand. One of these days though...

So IM not trying to be rude or anything, but do you actually know how Harmonix negotiates with Labels and artists?? Or are you just going by the hear say??

Reaver
10-31-2009, 11:00 PM
Okay, you got me. I don't know for a fact, but obviously whatever they do its effective, yes?

CCDaDon
11-01-2009, 01:12 AM
I think people forgot that the dude who owns the rights to Hendrix's songs isn't a musician, so there's none of the silly pretensions we get from guys like Jimmy Page. Any idiot can get the songs, it's just a matter of how much money you need to throw at the guy.

Chick actually. The estate is run by his half sister, although she shouldn't even be apart of the estate but that's for another conversation.

GNFfhqwhgads
11-01-2009, 01:59 AM
^this isn't important, because every song in rock band to date is a cover by Dave Grohl! :P
No, a cover implies he's not the original artist.

Fuelie79
11-01-2009, 02:14 AM
Could have been the controversy seen over Kurt Cobain, or maybe they were impressed by The Beatles. Or maybe it was boat loads of money or begging.

GNFfhqwhgads
11-01-2009, 02:16 AM
Could have been the controversy seen over Kurt Cobain, or maybe they were impressed by The Beatles. Or maybe it was boat loads of money or begging.
Maybe the Hendrix estate just really, really likes LEGOs.

Neoxon
11-01-2009, 02:16 AM
Maybe HMX went to their knees & begged the Estate to let them use Fire.

On a lighter note, now the Estate has no excuse to not let GH import the 2 Hendrix songs on GHWT or bring back the 6 Hendrix DLC songs.

GNFfhqwhgads
11-01-2009, 02:22 AM
On a lighter note, now the Estate has no excuse to not let GH import the 2 Hendrix songs on GHWT or bring back the 6 Hendrix DLC songs.
Activision tied them to the character in the contract and aren't coming back to open it up?

Reaver
11-01-2009, 02:57 AM
Don't contracts expire too?

MourganDespana
11-01-2009, 03:33 AM
By the power of flight.

GNFfhqwhgads
11-01-2009, 03:36 AM
Actually, HeyRiles jumped in and said, "Hey, Traveller's Tales! Harmonix needs your help! Clap if you believe!"

MourganDespana
11-01-2009, 03:43 AM
Actually, HeyRiles jumped in and said, "Hey, Traveller's Tales! Harmonix needs your help! Clap if you believe!"

Actually, Dave Grohl was busy.

Kariodude
11-01-2009, 07:24 AM
When I heard about this my mind jumped back to an interview they had with his sister or whatever that's over the estate. She said that Jimi was always a kid at heart and would love games like these. What's more of a kid game than a Lego game? Maybe that had something to do with it in the long run.

Neoxon
11-01-2009, 11:43 AM
When I heard about this my mind jumped back to an interview they had with his sister or whatever that's over the estate. She said that Jimi was always a kid at heart and would love games like these. What's more of a kid game than a Lego game? Maybe that had something to do with it in the long run.

Good point, nothing brings out your inner child better than Legos, maybe that sold them on the idea.

RaymanFTW
11-01-2009, 05:25 PM
Dave Grohl suggested him to Harmonix and the rest was history...LOL

Reaver
11-01-2009, 05:34 PM
Okay. The Dave Grohl joke is old now.

RaymanFTW
11-01-2009, 05:35 PM
Dave Grohl jokes are the new Chuck Norris jokes they never get old xD

Reaver
11-01-2009, 05:37 PM
I see one around every corner. I'd much rather read about the game and stuff than all these over-exagerated Dave Grohl jokes. They're cluttering the forum. Thats what the thread is for.

Kariodude
11-01-2009, 05:48 PM
Dave Grohl jokes are the new Chuck Norris jokes they never get old xD

Yeah that makes sense. Chuck Norris jokes were never funny either.

Xzyliac
11-01-2009, 06:35 PM
Yeah that makes sense. Chuck Norris jokes were never funny either.

This.

LuigiHann
11-01-2009, 06:37 PM
I miss Vin Diesel jokes

woodwindpizza
11-01-2009, 07:11 PM
One man.

Dave Grohl.

:eek:

I knew it!

CyanFunk
11-01-2009, 07:13 PM
Activison didn't hold all the rights, that's how

woodwindpizza
11-01-2009, 08:48 PM
Maybe this was Hendrix's idea of "spreading the love"?

Runesmith
11-01-2009, 09:00 PM
HMX has a high charisma score.

karmalord
11-02-2009, 09:57 PM
Yeah that makes sense. Chuck Norris jokes were never funny either.

The Dave Grohl jokes are the Communitys way of saying this 1 musician should never have been given this amount of music as DLC.
If this was in HMX's interest,they should have just done a 20 pack like AC/DC all at once. But no we keep getting hit with the Foo's etc week after bloody week. So if thats how its gonna be,Let The good Times Grohl.

Flan26
11-02-2009, 10:00 PM
The Dave Grohl jokes are the Communitys way of saying this 1 musician should never have been given this amount of music as DLC.
If this was in HMX's interest,they should have just done a 20 pack like AC/DC all at once. But no we keep getting hit with the Foo's etc week after bloody week. So if thats how its gonna be,Let The good Times Grohl.

That was a big build-up just to make a Dave Grohl pun.

toymachineSH
11-02-2009, 10:03 PM
Janey Hendrix has flip flopped in a way that angers the songs trapped on my WT disc >__<

Magnet
11-02-2009, 10:17 PM
The Dave Grohl jokes are the Communitys way of saying this 1 musician should never have been given this amount of music as DLC.
If this was in HMX's interest,they should have just done a 20 pack like AC/DC all at once. But no we keep getting hit with the Foo's etc week after bloody week. So if thats how its gonna be,Let The good Times Grohl.

If they're going to be used to needlessly derail other threads, I guarantee you that is not how it's going to be. This is pretty ridiculous. Stay on topic.

If anyone has any uncontrollable urges to make Dave Grohl jokes, there is a dedicated thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170898) - believe it or not.


Janey Hendrix has flip flopped in a way that angers the songs trapped on my WT disc >__<

Wasn't there some kind of earlier change too that allowed Guitar Hero to bring Hendrix to the Wii as DLC for World Tour later on? Seems like a lot of licensing negotiations about Hendrix have taken place.

karmalord
11-03-2009, 02:22 AM
That was a big build-up just to make a Dave Grohl pun.
Not- I actually threw that in at the last second. Jimi Hendrix!

T-Hybrid
11-03-2009, 12:49 PM
The Dave Grohl jokes are the Communitys way of saying this 1 musician should never have been given this amount of music as DLC.
So because one artist happens to be associated with a number of bands more than willing to share their content...we should just not let him because of some stupid whiny-fan-imposed quota?

Sorry, don't care. If Grohl wants to bring the entire Foo-ography to Rock Band, then more power to him for supporting the genre.

Also, before whining about the abundance of Foo, it would be good to remind everybody that Dave Grohl had no part in the drumming for any of the Nirvana songs this week.

karmalord
11-04-2009, 02:29 AM
So because one artist happens to be associated with a number of bands more than willing to share their content...we should just not let him because of some stupid whiny-fan-imposed quota?

Sorry, don't care. If Grohl wants to bring the entire Foo-ography to Rock Band, then more power to him for supporting the genre.

Also, before whining about the abundance of Foo, it would be good to remind everybody that Dave Grohl had no part in the drumming for any of the Nirvana songs this week.
Not fair to Chuck Norris!-He has not one song in the game! Oh well at least we got Kung Fu Fighting in Lego!

KingKoolBeans
11-29-2009, 03:32 AM
the power of love

Jdurgit
11-29-2009, 09:07 PM
the power of love

Huey Lewis had nothing to do with it. :p