Disappointed with missing features in Wii Lego RB

[nicko68]

What, are we back in the days of RB1 again? We know the Wii can handle DLC thanks to GH and RB2, and we know there are ways to export tracks thanks to GH5/BH. I find it ridiculous that those features are missing from Lego RB.

I am still excited to get both games tomorrow, but I am more excited about BH because I know I can export the tracks to my growing GH5 collection.

And now I guess that means we Wii owners won't get any of the tracks that are in Lego RB as DLC in RB2, which is a shame because there are some good tracks in there.

I love RB and I love HMX, but Activision, Neversoft and Vicarious Visions treat the Wii platform better.

[MourganDespana]

I could do a rant about second rate things keeping close to each other, but I won't.

[ArchangelZero]

Well unless you want all your songs to export to Lego: RB, then I don't think this is gonna happen.

Export to RB2 was a patch. A patch that was in within the first month of release for the other versions (by this time, the Wii version was already being reproduced in-factory)

[monkeyfish]

Rock Band sucks on the Wii. And it's only about 30% the Wii's fault.

[Flawless]

Rock Band sucks on the Wii. And it's only about 86% the Wii's fault.

That's actually kind of true.

[ArchangelZero]

Rock Band sucks on the Wii. And it's only about 30% the Wii's fault.

Well RB1 sucked. RB2 was a huge improvement along with TB:RB (we all know that Medley fiasco was not the game, rather the hardware)

Here's to hoping RB3 will finally find a foothold in the Rock Band franchise for the Wii.

[nicko68]

Well unless you want all your songs to export to Lego: RB, then I don't think this is gonna happen.

Export to RB2 was a patch. A patch that was in within the first month of release for the other versions (by this time, the Wii version was already being reproduced in-factory)

I don't care about exporting RB2 to LegoRB, but going from LegoRB to RB2. And GH5 showed there are ways to do it without needing patches. Offer the Lego tracks as DLC that you can buy as a package with a game code. That's how GH/BH does it.

[lotr rocks 0]

enjoy lego rock band for the game that it is, and not just for the auto export *cough * band hero *cough*

Lots of work was put in to make lego a fun stand alone game so enjoy it for that.

I realise that not export sucks, but id rather buy lego with no export than band hero with export any day. Band hero is basically a glorified track pack

[nicko68]

I could do a rant about second rate things keeping close to each other, but I won't.

GHWT was second rate, but I think they did a fantastic job on GH5, and I put it on par with RB2. Some features put it ahead on the Wii (SDHC support, import, etc)

Maybe Activision would't have to try so hard were it not for HMX. But that's why they say competition is a good thing.

[monkeyfish]

Well RB1 sucked. RB2 was a huge improvement along with TB:RB (we all know that Medley fiasco was not the game, rather the hardware)

Here's to hoping RB3 will finally find a foothold in the Rock Band franchise for the Wii.

Here's hoping the developers or people they shovel the port job to don't get lazy and make build it at Playstation 2-levels. Though you are right, TBRB was a step in the right direction.

It'll be at least two RB games/packs before Wii gets any chance of export at all, since I imagine they won't bother negotiating with Nintendo over methods of downloading the old games as DLC.

[GNFfhqwhgads]

Take it up with Traveller's Tales.


Yeah, that sounds right.

[Rich T.]

Getting LRB for Wii, and as long as it's a fun experience that plays well and captures the humor I've seen in the youtube videos taken from other consoles, I'll be happy. RB2 is awesome on Wii, and so is TB:RB. Not quite as awesome as they are on 360 and PS3, but the gameplay and heart are all present, and that's what counts for me. These are great games, pure and simple. I'm glad my little white Nintendo box can take part, since Harmonix's games are--pretty much--the only non-first-party games I buy for Wii.

[InsanityEx]

To the guy that said Band Hero was merely a "glorified trackpack", uhmm.... Wake up and smell the coffee bro. Band Hero has online, DLC and export features. Lego RB for Wii has NOTHING but songs (awesome ones) and Lego (awesome Lego). I'm sure the game is great and I'll get it one day but the least they could've done was add online and DLC to the Wii version since we know it CAN be done. Rock Band 2 can't support exports and I understand that but no online and DLC is ridiculous. I'm sorry TTGames but next time, don't ever touch an RB game again. Here's hoping the serial code at the back of the manual means export for the next major RB game made by the one and only, Harmonix.

[davidshek]

Lego RB for Wii has NOTHING but songs (awesome ones) and Lego (awesome Lego). I'm sure the game is great and I'll get it one day but the least they could've done was add online and DLC to the Wii version since we know it CAN be done.

Hey uh, psssst...the PS3 and X360 versions of L:RB don't have online either. Or leaderboards.

http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/thegurglingcod/images/2008/02/12/the_more_you_know2.jpg

[Pubknight]

The one thing that I just don't understand about Lego RB on the Wii is why it wouldn't maintain the same dlc 'screening' functionality as the other consoles.
Meaning, reading the RB2 dlc, but filtering out the non-family friendly songs.

Seems to be a pretty big miss.
I would recommend the title to friends with a Wii if it had this function... basically using it as a familly friendly front-end to RB2.
A feature that you would figure would have a lot of value on the Wii platform, given the family demographic.

I'm actually stunned that they didn't do this.
It's the RB2 engine, so there is no reason it couldn't read the existing rb2 dlc off of the sd card.

[esquehill]

It's a truly poor decision by Harmonix; that is, to decide to cripple the wii version of Lego Rock Band. I have no idea why or how these bad decisions get made; but my guess is that this won't be the last one... what will they choose to leave out of RB3 for the wii? For TB:RB, they chose to leave out slowing down the guitar/bass track in Practice Mode. I don't get it. Why do this? It's madness.

[davidshek]

It's a truly poor decision by Harmonix; that is, to decide to cripple the wii version of Lego Rock Band.

Harmonix did not develop Lego Rock Band.

[esquehill]

Harmonix did not develop Lego Rock Band.

Ok. I'm game. Who did?

On amazon.com it says "by MTV Games" for Rock Band 2.
On amazon.com is says "by MTV Games" for Lego Rock Band.

I remain extraordinarily disappointed in whoever they are, since their choice to
cripple the wii version (with respect to the features of the game on xbox and ps3)
is *very* disappointing; a black mark on the franchise as far as I am concerned.
And I wonder which features the wii version of RB3 is going to be missing...

[Neoxon]

Ok. I'm game. Who did?

On amazon.com it says "by MTV Games" for Rock Band 2.
On amazon.com is says "by MTV Games" for Lego Rock Band.

I remain extraordinarily disappointed in whoever they are, since their choice to
cripple the wii version (with respect to the features of the game on xbox and ps3)
is *very* disappointing; a black mark on the franchise as far as I am concerned.
And I wonder which features the wii version of RB3 is going to be missing...

Have a complaint (& I have a ton), take it up with Travelers Tales.

[ArchangelZero]

They should have given the developing job to Pi. They were the ones who've always developed the Wii games, not HMX. And they were the ones who started to develop their techniques and create an amazing TB:RB, a pinnacle of what a RB game should be on the Wii. Traveler's Tales should have given them the job of developing the Wii version, no one else.

BTW, MTV Games is the Publisher. Traveler's Tales is the developer the Lego RB.

[VAmpForgotten]

this game is pure fail fail fail fail.
i'll just import.

[ArchangelZero]

this game is pure fail fail fail fail.
i'll just import.

Give it about 11 months, then you'll be able to import.:p

[VAmpForgotten]

Give it about 11 months, then you'll be able to import.:p

trust me.
i will.

[taylorlee]

Wait, so LRB on the Wii can't use ANY DLC?

That's...

really wierd.

Even Rock Band 2 on the Wii could use DLC, this seems like a needless step backwards, considering it was already in place.

I know that Travellers Tales developed, but wasn't there some form of QA from Harmonix?

[ArchangelZero]

Wait, so LRB on the Wii can't use ANY DLC?

That's...

really wierd.

Even Rock Band 2 on the Wii could use DLC, this seems like a needless step backwards, considering it was already in place.

I know that Travellers Tales developed, but wasn't there some form of QA from Harmonix?

Well, I guess probably not.

I still say Pi Games should have developed it.

[JRJathome]

Band hero is basically a glorified track pack

And Lego Rock Band isn't?

[Finnulf]

Said it in another thread and I feel it bears repeating. LRB for Wii is an insult!

[InsanityEx]

Hey uh, psssst...the PS3 and X360 versions of L:RB don't have online either. Or leaderboards.

http://thegurglingcod.typepad.com/thegurglingcod/images/2008/02/12/the_more_you_know2.jpgOh please don't play smart, that just makes me even more sad/angry :( We all know 360 and PS3 versions can export the songs to RB2 then play online on there. Wii can't do anything AT ALL! It's like RB1 with Legos.

[esquehill]

Wait, so LRB on the Wii can't use ANY DLC?

That's...
really wierd.
Even Rock Band 2 on the Wii could use DLC, this seems like a needless step backwards, considering it was already in place.
I know that Travellers Tales developed, but wasn't there some form of QA from Harmonix?

Yes, it's bizarre. And your words "needless step backwards" are, distressingly; absolutely accurate.:mad:

In RB3, maybe they'll choose to leave out vocals on the wii. Who knows what they'll choose to omit! ARGH.

[Darkender]

Not trying to be an Xbox fanboy but I own all 3 systems, and I recognize the differences between them. The Wii is more of a party console, you give up the great graphics for a more group friendly experience, especially for youngsters, it also costs quite a bit less. You get an Xbox if you're a true Gamer and want only the best games and the best from your games, PS3 is kinda a mixture of both.

Complaining about this is kinda like buying a Vizio HDTV and complaining when the picture isn't as crisp or clear as the picture on a brand new Sony LED HDTV. You get what you pay for.

[InsanityEx]

Not trying to be an Xbox fanboy but I own all 3 systems, and I recognize the differences between them. The Wii is more of a party console, you give up the great graphics for a more group friendly experience, especially for youngsters, it also costs quite a bit less. You get an Xbox if you're a true Gamer and want only the best games and the best from your games, PS3 is kinda a mixture of both.

Complaining about this is kinda like buying a Vizio HDTV and complaining when the picture isn't as crisp or clear as the picture on a brand new Sony LED HDTV. You get what you pay for.Dude, please just stop. This kind of post is really not needed in this thread. All I'm gonna say is that RB2 and TB:RB were great Wii games. They may not have all the features that the 360 and PS3 versions have but they certainly had the core features down (DLC, online, character customization). If past games could do that, why can't this new and recent game?

[Darkender]

It has the core features... you can play all the songs in a LEGO themed setting. You don't know that an Export won't happen, it's probably in the works and will just take a bit of time. As far as the DLC is concerned, ever think there might be a reason it wasn't included? Trouble with compatibility in the Wii Store etc...

[InsanityEx]

It has the core features... you can play all the songs in a LEGO themed setting. You don't know that an Export won't happen, it's probably in the works and will just take a bit of time. As far as the DLC is concerned, ever think there might be a reason it wasn't included? Trouble with compatibility in the Wii Store etc...Yes I've thought about it and no, I don't think there was any problem. Lego RB just seems like RB with Lego, why is there no DLC support when RB2 and TB:RB had it? I understand why there's no export but no online and DLC just makes this a Lego themed track pack.

[davidshek]

Yes I've thought about it and no, I don't think there was any problem. Lego RB just seems like RB with Lego, why is there no DLC support when RB2 and TB:RB had it? I understand why there's no export but no online and DLC just makes this a Lego themed track pack.

And as pointed out earlier, none of the other console's versions of L:RB has online play either. You can stop including that as a "missing feature in the Wii version" now. :)

[esquehill]

Yes I've thought about it and no, I don't think there was any problem. Lego RB just seems like RB with Lego, why is there no DLC support when RB2 and TB:RB had it? I understand why there's no export but no online and DLC just makes this a Lego themed track pack.

Agreed... Having no DLC really limits the long-term playability of the game; irrespective of what console you are talking about. Sooner or later, it gets tiresome...being limited to the ondisk songs. Though it's going to take a while to get bored with the Hendrix track. But... I know I'll never get any *more* Hendrix tracks in this game. D'oh.

[16BitAlex]

This could have been prevented if the game were delayed. They could have had time to implement SD card support. Same-day game releases help no one if sacrifices have to be made.


You get an Xbox if you're a true Gamer and want only the best games and the best from your games.
I disagree. Look at the Halo-ripoff shovelware shooters being cranked out that are all the same but with different maps. None of those play well. The system discriminates against children, look at the majority of M-rated games. I pray that parents buy these for their kids, or that they abolish the law preventing these from being sold to kids. (and while I'm at it, the laws that prevents kids from buying R-rated movies, cigarettes, and alcohol)

In addition, no Nintendo titles. They are one of the only good non-music game developers remaining, and they lock their own games down on their pathetic underpowered system forcing true gamers to buy it. It would be good for business if they released Mario and such on the Xbox.


GHWT was second rate, but I think they did a fantastic job on GH5, and I put it on par with RB2. Some features put it ahead on the Wii (SDHC support, import, etc)

Maybe Activision would't have to try so hard were it not for HMX. But that's why they say competition is a good thing.
The one thing that is a huge step back is the loss of facial hair. This is a basic feature in a character creator.

At this point, I give up on my GH beard crusade. I'll pretend the character creator doesn't exist and that GH5 is GH3 with better charts, missing Xavier, and tapped notes. I will be able to enjoy the game that way.

[davidshek]

The system discriminates against children, look at the majority of M-rated games. I pray that parents buy these for their kids, or that they abolish the law preventing these from being sold to kids. (and while I'm at it, the laws that prevents kids from buying R-rated movies, cigarettes, and alcohol)

Wait wait wait...what? You think that the Xbox itself discriminates against children? You do realize that it's the game developers that choose to create M-rated games, right?

And you want laws that prevent kids from buying R-rated movies, cigarettes, and alcohol abolished??

Ok pal, you just lost all credibility here.

[16BitAlex]

Wait wait wait...what? You think that the Xbox itself discriminates against children? You do realize that it's the game developers that choose to create M-rated games, right?

And you want laws that prevent kids from buying R-rated movies, cigarettes, and alcohol abolished??

Ok pal, you just lost all credibility here.
Well, children are second-class citizens around the world. Maybe to be reasonable, lower the age of these draconian laws to 14. Kids are growing older younger. A 14-year-old today is as mature as a 54-year-old 20 years ago and has experienced more than the old coot to boot. The only thing keeping kids back is that the education system is needlessly repetitive.

To bring this back on topic, does Lego Wii still have a character creator?

[davidshek]

Well, children are second-class citizens around the world. Maybe to be reasonable, lower the age of these draconian laws to 14. Kids are growing older younger. A 14-year-old today is as mature as a 54-year-old 20 years ago and has experienced more than the old coot to boot. The only thing keeping kids back is that the education system is needlessly repetitive.

Mature as a 54-year-old in 1989? Dude, what world do you LIVE in? Cause it sure ain't the same one the rest of us are in...

[jwebb1970]

Mature as a 54-year-old in 1989? Dude, what world do you LIVE in? Cause it sure ain't the same one the rest of us are in...


In LEGOland, maybe?:D

[boyandhisblobs]

alright, this is just fan boys now. Go back to your 360 forums.

[16BitAlex]

Mature as a 54-year-old in 1989? Dude, what world do you LIVE in? Cause it sure ain't the same one the rest of us are in...
Technology has helped compress time and space. The journey, the most painful and time-consuming part of acquiring experience, is becoming less necessary. People can now experience a trip around the world, just by watching videos and playing games. Ignore the nitwits who say "you have to be there".

With technology, life is a series of destinations reachable almost instantaneously.

[princeofcups]

Rock Band sucks on the Wii. And it's only about 30% the Wii's fault.

See the OP's comment about the competition. They've gone out of their way to make the Wii as full featured as possible. HMX has not made the same kind of effort, and has fallen short, again.

[Coach Z]

Technology has helped compress time and space. The journey, the most painful and time-consuming part of acquiring experience, is becoming less necessary. People can now experience a trip around the world, just by watching videos and playing games. Ignore the nitwits who say "you have to be there".


Technology creates the illusion of experience. Sort of like how Rock Band is a pale illusion of playing an actual instrument.

[Jdurgit]

Technology creates the illusion of experience. Sort of like how Rock Band is a pale illusion of playing an actual instrument.

+1 Nice analogy.

14 year olds today are not anywhere near as "mature" as a 54 year old in 1989. The sad thing is, they THINK they are just as mature but in reality they are probably more immature than a 14 year old was in 1989. The difference is that the 14 year old in 1989 didn't foolishly think he/she was fully mature.

[Pubknight]

Slightly veiled console jabs.
Misplaced blame on people that didn't develop the game.
Valid complaints on lack of certain features
Bohemian thoughts on minors.
Even a bit of existentialism.

A+ thread.
Would read again.

[Kidmitt]

Um, all the 14 year-olds I've seen around town certainly don't look or act very mature. 1989 must have been a sad state of affairs with the 54 year-olds leading the country and businesses if that's how they were.

[jwebb1970]

Slightly veiled console jabs.
Misplaced blame on people that didn't develop the game.
Valid complaints on lack of certain features
Bohemian thoughts on minors.
Even a bit of existentialism.

A+ thread.
Would read again.


:D

[16BitAlex]

Technology creates the illusion of experience. Sort of like how Rock Band is a pale illusion of playing an actual instrument.
Sometimes all you need is a pale illusion. Sometimes the real thing is too much effort for not enough return.

[Darkender]

Slightly veiled console jabs.
Misplaced blame on people that didn't develop the game.
Valid complaints on lack of certain features
Bohemian thoughts on minors.
Even a bit of existentialism.

A+ thread.
Would read again.

Win

[monkeyfish]

Sometimes all you need is a pale illusion. Sometimes the real thing is too much effort for not enough return.

Hmm...Internet "experiences" being better than the "real thing," the ease and freedom of the "illusions," while saying the real thing takes "too much effort..."

Anyone else seeing a little too much sadness to be considered funny here?

[GRUMP1019]

[QUOTE Wii can't do anything AT ALL! It's like RB1 with Legos.[/QUOTE]

This was exactly my thought when I was playing it last night. Although I only played a few songs, I just feel that we were let down by this incarnation and may just return the game and pick up GH5/BH.. eventhough I would have to buy the guitar controller too. :mad:

[16BitAlex]

Sometimes all you need is a pale illusion. Sometimes the real thing is too much effort for not enough return.
Oh-ho-ho-ho-ho...Caught myself! The Wii is a "pale illusion" of gaming here. The Xbox 360 and PS3 are the "real thing". In this case, the pale illusion is not enough, and the real thing is worth the effort (slogging through shovelware like Halo 3 in the case of the 360 in addition to having to rebuy all my old songs and instruments)


Hmm...Internet "experiences" being better than the "real thing," the ease and freedom of the "illusions," while saying the real thing takes "too much effort..."

Anyone else seeing a little too much sadness to be considered funny here?
I said "sometimes" the real thing is too much effort. My point was that kids deserve to be treated older younger (including all the rights of being old) because they can have experienced more by their age than their parents did.

[Ehfahq]

I My point was that kids deserve to be treated older younger (including all the rights of being old) because they can have experienced more by their age than their parents did.

No they dont. Go on youtube and watch the teens. Go to the mall and watch the teens.

Hell go to a bar and watch how a typical 21 year old acts.

[davidshek]

I said "sometimes" the real thing is too much effort. My point was that kids deserve to be treated older younger (including all the rights of being old) because they can have experienced more by their age than their parents did.

Sorry to be the one to have to shatter your reality here, but watching something on Youtube is not the same as "experiencing it". 14 year olds today are nowhere NEAR as mature as you seem to think they are. And you want to give them the ability to buy alcohol?!

God help us all.

[16BitAlex]

Why is real-life experience so good anyway? As I said, the journey of life is the worst part. Knowledge is the same no matter how you learn it. Some ways are just less painful.

Example: Instead of reading these forums, I could have bought Lego Rock Band Wii for myself. Either way I would have found out about the lack of DLC, but one way would have cost me $50 I could have used for much more worthwhile purposes like saving up for the PS3 to free me from my Nintendo prison.

[davidshek]

Why is real-life experience so good anyway? As I said, the journey of life is the worst part. Knowledge is the same no matter how you learn it. Some ways are just less painful.

You're doing something seriously wrong, man. Or in Internet lingo, "Life: Ur doing it wrong".

Remember the words of Real Steven Tyler: "Life's a journey, not a destination!"

If the journey is the worst part for you, you might want to think about changing your method of transportation ;)

[16BitAlex]

If the journey is the worst part for you, you might want to think about changing your method of transportation ;)
Since you put it that way, my trip through life (outside of Rock Band) is best represented by the infamous game "Desert Bus". Lonely, nothing to look at, yet I still have to tap left regularly or I crash.

[OakTea]

Since you put it that way, my trip through life (outside of Rock Band) is best represented by the infamous game "Desert Bus". Lonely, nothing to look at, yet I still have to tap left regularly or I crash.

Then do something better?

[Finnulf]

Well, this has devolved into a mess... nice to see the original point forgotten: LRB for Wii sucks colossal piles of fecal matter.

[InsanityEx]

And as pointed out earlier, none of the other console's versions of L:RB has online play either. You can stop including that as a "missing feature in the Wii version" now. :)Ok fine, 360/PS3 owners can't play online on Lego Rock Band BUT they can play online on RB2 through export. Like I said before, Wii can't do anything at all and this game is like RB1 with Legos.

[playmike]

See the OP's comment about the competition. They've gone out of their way to make the Wii as full featured as possible. HMX has not made the same kind of effort, and has fallen short, again.

HMX didn't make LRB, TT Games did.

[jwebb1970]

This was exactly my thought when I was playing it last night. Although I only played a few songs, I just feel that we were let down by this incarnation and may just return the game and pick up GH5/BH.. eventhough I would have to buy the guitar controller too. :mad:

GH5 & BH will work with your Wii RB gear just fine. You only need the GH guitar if you want to use either game's Mii Freestyle mode or do the advanced song creation in GHTunes (which I wonder if ANYONE actually uses).

[Yellig]

GH5 & BH will work with your Wii RB gear just fine. You only need the GH guitar if you want to use either game's Mii Freestyle mode or do the advanced song creation in GHTunes (which I wonder if ANYONE actually uses).

Not according to Harmonix's or Activision's compatibility charts.

[16BitAlex]

^In addition, Wii RB drum velocity sensitivity doesn't work in GH5/BH and if you use the cymbals, yellow doesn't work and instead plays the pedal.

As for my complaint about the journey of life being the worst part, I just realized that I'm not even on that trip. If we're still using that metaphor, I'm still packing my bags being forced to find and bring more crap along.

Oh no, here I go again...

[Transbrak]

Isn't it funny that the only ones who wan't to abolish laws regarding sales of adult items to kids, are the kids. :rolleyes:

[16BitAlex]

Isn't it funny that the only ones who wan't to abolish laws regarding sales of adult items to kids, are the kids. :rolleyes:
I'm actually 18 now and could buy the M-rated games that other developers put all their effort into, but kids still deserve better, and should have the right to buy the Xbox games, so Nintendo wouldn't have had to dumb down their console. This would also allow for uncensored songs.

And why is alcohol so sacred that only the elderly of 21 and up get it? The BS about "saving lives on the road" is nothing more than age discrimination.

[Rich T.]

Ok fine, 360/PS3 owners can't play online on Lego Rock Band BUT they can play online on RB2 through export. Like I said before, Wii can't do anything at all and this game is like RB1 with Legos.

Hi, InsanityEx. I know I'm an annoying optimist on this subject, but LRB is not like RB1 with Lego. LRB's character animations match your playing.

Wii LRB is more like GH3 with Lego. :)

The "With Lego" part makes a huge difference. My family and I have spent every night with this game since launch. We're nearing the end of story mode, and we've had a great time with it: Definitely in the top 5 of fun Wii gameplay experiences we've had this year.

So, yeah, like I've said on other threads, Blablabla great customization, unlockables, humor, charm, I love this game etc. I won't bust a cork defending it on this thread because this one's a place for folks to vent their disappointment and complain about the game's downsides.

I will say, though, that after nearly a week with the game, I've had the strange experience of simultaneously loving it (humor, fun, perfect gameplay) and wanting to send it back to Harmonix and TT to bake in the oven for a few more months. I'm not ticked about the DLC anymore, because I knew that going in, but more about the challenge events. They function, they work, and they're fun. But they don't look good. It looks like TT just took the amazing challenges they designed for 360 and PS3 and then just kept removing details and replacing animated elements with motionless 2D stand-ins until the note highway's framerate came back to where they wanted it. I know why it's happening: The visual scope of some of the challenges is vast, and they would've had to completely re-think and redesign the challenges from the ground up to make them look great on Wii. Needless to say, due to time, budget, whatever, that didn't happen here. It varies from challenge to challenge: Ghostbusters looks fine do its many quick cuts and edits. Break Out, which features camera pans across a huge ice cave with many characters and (in other version) animated animals is acceptable unless you've seen the 360 version and know what you're missing. Then you just wanna scream.

And yet, I still love this game. My little Lego dudes look awesome and hilarious, and I like 99% of the setlist. I'm letting a lot slide by on this one: With any other franchise, this might have been a quick trade-in.

It's GH3 with Legos and a better set list (though GH3 had Cliffs of Dover), but that "With Legos" part saves it for me. It won't save it for everyone here.

[IanC14]

Not according to Harmonix's or Activision's compatibility charts.

Activision never acknowledge Rock Band instrument compatibly officially though. DJ Hero says it needs a Guitar Hero control for the Guitar vs DJ mode, yet it worked fine with my Rock Band guitar. (this is on 360 though, so it mgith be different on the wii...)

[davidshek]

And why is alcohol so sacred that only the elderly of 21 and up get it? The BS about "saving lives on the road" is nothing more than age discrimination.

It's called "maturity" and "self-control". 18-year-olds don't have enough of either one to be allowed to buy alcohol and drive.

In 1974, the legal drinking age in the U.S. was lowered from 21 to 18. It was raised back to 21 somewhere around 10 years later, and the reason above is exactly why.

[Kolma_]

Easily put... This feels like a PS2 port, inwhich the original game (for ps2) doesnt exist,
I blame the fault of Pi Studios and EA games not having part in the creation of the game at all.
thn again, wii never had DLC export so thats 1 of 3 things
and NONE of the version have online, so thats 2 of 3 things
The previous DLC not working would probably be the fault of Nintendo, just cuz they seem to be an easy target.

Please make note that i love Nintendo and i own 4 Rock Band games for the Wii, however that doesn't mean that i like their way of thinking....
Rock Band is a fantastic game Nintendo... I'm sure you can let it be an exception to the no 3rd party patching rule...

[InsanityEx]

Hi, InsanityEx. I know I'm an annoying optimist on this subject, but LRB is not like RB1 with Lego. LRB's character animations match your playing.

Wii LRB is more like GH3 with Lego. :)

The "With Lego" part makes a huge difference. My family and I have spent every night with this game since launch. We're nearing the end of story mode, and we've had a great time with it: Definitely in the top 5 of fun Wii gameplay experiences we've had this year.

So, yeah, like I've said on other threads, Blablabla great customization, unlockables, humor, charm, I love this game etc. I won't bust a cork defending it on this thread because this one's a place for folks to vent their disappointment and complain about the game's downsides.

I will say, though, that after nearly a week with the game, I've had the strange experience of simultaneously loving it (humor, fun, perfect gameplay) and wanting to send it back to Harmonix and TT to bake in the oven for a few more months. I'm not ticked about the DLC anymore, because I knew that going in, but more about the challenge events. They function, they work, and they're fun. But they don't look good. It looks like TT just took the amazing challenges they designed for 360 and PS3 and then just kept removing details and replacing animated elements with motionless 2D stand-ins until the note highway's framerate came back to where they wanted it. I know why it's happening: The visual scope of some of the challenges is vast, and they would've had to completely re-think and redesign the challenges from the ground up to make them look great on Wii. Needless to say, due to time, budget, whatever, that didn't happen here. It varies from challenge to challenge: Ghostbusters looks fine do its many quick cuts and edits. Break Out, which features camera pans across a huge ice cave with many characters and (in other version) animated animals is acceptable unless you've seen the 360 version and know what you're missing. Then you just wanna scream.

And yet, I still love this game. My little Lego dudes look awesome and hilarious, and I like 99% of the setlist. I'm letting a lot slide by on this one: With any other franchise, this might have been a quick trade-in.

It's GH3 with Legos and a better set list (though GH3 had Cliffs of Dover), but that "With Legos" part saves it for me. It won't save it for everyone here.Haha we need atleast one Wii owner that likes the game :p Well I said it was RB1 with Legos because of the features. RB1 had no DLC and online play, same is true with LRB. Both games still have the same great Rock Band gameplay though but not the great RB features that make it what it is. I'd like to call it GH3 with Lego but even GH3 had online. LRB doesnt :(

[16BitAlex]

It's called "maturity" and "self-control"
Well why can't we just teach self-control to kids? And what exactly is maturity composed of anyway? Why can't that be taught either?

But I've digressed too many times. Stop feeding me.

It's all Nintendo's fault for rushing a crippled system to the market while the third-party developers (anyone not named Harmonix / Pi Studios or Neversoft / Vicarious Visions) discriminate against children and release games filled with blood, gore, and sex.

[Jack5mikemotown]

back on the subject of L:RB. i was playing free play mode last night and i was changing sorting. out of curiousity i went through all the potions and saw a sort by location way of sorting. in RB2 this would be RB2/DLC(and also a RB1 section on ps3 and 360). why would they put that sorting method in L:RB if there were only one section. im not saying there's dlc or anything just wondering if theres anything to it