The Lego Export is a 1.2GB download

[playmike]

The Lego Export is a 1.2GB download...

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[McNoob]

That's reasonable.

[Kidmitt]

Darn. Sounds like there'll be no deleting So What on its way to RB2.

[redbill]

did you use the disc at all? or the website code gave you the download from xbox live?

[folkeye]

Darn. Sounds like there'll be no deleting So What on its way to RB2.

Take deep breaths... :D I know there's some stuff on there I don't want. Maybe one day, just MAYBE PS3 will be able to delete.

[jeronemitchell]

Cool.... was just about to start a thread asking about this. I have another month or two before having to upgrade to a 120 Gig HD. :)

[samjjones]

I wish the songs would just rip from the disk.

A 1.2 gig download is going to take about a week with my connection.

[GraphicMang]

You have to use the disc to get to the ingame export option correct?
Also then the tracks are not ripped from the disc correct? Its a file download like all the other track packs?

[playmike]

did you use the disc at all? or the website code gave you the download from xbox live?

used the disk to access the export key: http://i.imgur.com/cqzXB.jpg

[CrazyIvan]

Can you confirm whether or not you can delete individual songs after you do the import?

[Dekieon]

I am a bit disappointed by this as well. Like others, I was hoping to delete some of the songs I didn't want like I could with the RB 1 export.

[redbill]

So:
1. get code from manual
2. get code from website
3. download license
4. in-game option to access license
5. download songs

simple enough

[fuzzai]

Anyone else getting issues when trying to download the export?
I keep getting error codes: 800700e8

...and yes i already downloaded the key to allow me this.

[Dekieon]

Anyone else getting issues when trying to download the export?
I keep getting error codes: 800700e8

...and yes i already downloaded the key to allow me this.

yes I got that too after I downloaded the key. What I did was exit back to the very front screen, where it says to press start to continue. from here I went back into the rockband store, and i didn't get the error anymore.

[fuzzai]

yes I got that too after I downloaded the key. What I did was exit back to the very front screen, where it says to press start to continue. from here I went back into the rockband store, and i didn't get the error anymore.


Just tried that, didn't work for me ;(
ill give it time, maybe to many are trying to download it, oh well.

[aspiring]

crap i am soooo out of room on my PS3. I only have 4 gigs left! Better buy a new HD soon!

[JPSChampagne]

That. Sucks.

Very, very poor decision. With this many songs, there is no reason we shouldn't have had a RB1 style export. Just miserably disappointing.

[davidshek]

Can you confirm whether or not you can delete individual songs after you do the import?

It's one big file, which means you cannot.

[redbill]

can you re-download from Xbox live, or would you need to use the disc again?

[CrazyIvan]

It's one big file, which means you cannot.

Wasn't the RB1 to RB2 export also one big file? Maybe I'm just mis-remembering how that one worked.

[Bullseye]

Completely bummed out about the bulk export file, but them's the breaks. I was hoping to get rid of the more annoying stuff. Kind of a moot point anyways, as I'm waiting on my transfer kit to get my 120 GB HDD up and running. No room for the export on the 14GB standard. According to Microsoft, I'll be waiting 3 weeks for that cable to arrive. Should I get all riled up and scream about HMX not caring for the 360 users that have sub-standard HDD that are maxed out w/ content?

[Apples]

Ugh, that is so disappointing. I don't want more filler/junk songs in my song list.

The game shell is already cracking under the weight of so many songs.

[T-Hybrid]

It's kind of funny really. People are treating this thing like a glorified track pack...and then when the export works just like a Track Pack they get all upset.

[Kidmitt]

It's kind of funny really. People are treating this thing like a glorified track pack...and then when the export works just like a Track Pack they get all upset.

I was hoping to treat this more like RB1. Now it seems more like a glorified track pack. Oh well, I'll still enjoy Lego, and I guess I'll survive Pink showing up in my mystery setlists in RB2.

[General Lein979]

Related Question: Can you download the export well playing the game?

[iagomonk]

Wasn't the RB1 to RB2 export also one big file? Maybe I'm just mis-remembering how that one worked.

No, it was individual files ripped off the RB1 disc, that you could go back and delete afterward. At least on the 360...

[CrazyIvan]

No, it was individual files ripped off the RB1 disc, that you could go back and delete afterward. At least on the 360...

Ahhhhh.... gotcha. I just remembered that you had to do a full export of the songs and then go back in and delete the ones you didn't want. I forgot that you ripped them from the disk vs. downloading the songs.

Hmph.... okay... than this is seriously a bummer. LEGO: RB was a definite purchase for me, but not being able to cherry pick the songs I want to export makes it a "maybe" at best . There's only ~15 or so songs that I would have kept and a whole bunch that I definitely DO NOT want taking up room on my relatively limited 360 HDD. I'll have to think on this one...

[gunner07]

Is anybody else getting an issue when entering the export code from the manual? It keeps telling me "That game code was not found."

[ChessPieceFace]

So... you don't even need the disc to "export" the songs? Just the card insert?

Seems like that just makes it easier for people to swipe codes.

[eke826s]

Still haven't gotten home to play yet, but from what I've heard so far I'm not going to be in a big rush to export the songs into RB2. Lego to me sounds like RB2.5. With the majority of my DLC importing in I would much rather play a new game with new mystery setlists and such than replay the same things on RB2 I completed ages ago.

[hawkofva]

Related Question: Can you download the export well playing the game?
Not at first, but if you stop the download, back out to the main menu and navigate to your Account Settings through the guide button, you can restart the download from your Download History and return to playing the game while it downloads in the background like anything else. It's a flaw with the way downloads work through games, but if you don't do it that way, you're stuck staring at the progress bar until it finishes.

So... you don't even need the disc to "export" the songs? Just the card insert?

Seems like that just makes it easier for people to swipe codes.You must have the code on the card to get the small license file provided by the website. Once you download that, you get access to a part of the in-game Music Store that lets you purchase the "Export Pack" seen in the jpeg. You need the disc to access the Pack.

[Fizzeler]

For me the game won't let me export right now :(

[monkeyfish]

Well that's just lameness. But for those 360 owners that may not know (like me a week ago), you can set the system to download stuff while turned off, which would make this a breeze while you take a catnap. :D

[Ehfahq]

you would need the disk again.

so I'm thinking... you sell the disk, you're screwed. reason being, that it's a unique code for that disk only. if you want the songs again, you'll have to rebuy the game.

This could be another way to burn rent n' rippers.

ummmm, no.

Its in your download history. You dont need the disk once you export. And if your HD fails you just redownload it from your history.

[Baanu_Rass]

Well that's just lameness. But for those 360 owners that may not know (like me a week ago), you can set the system to download stuff while turned off, which would make this a breeze while you take a catnap. :D

I love that and the ability to select what to buy from Xbox.com. Get home, start up Xbox, let DL commence, turn off, do something else.

[playmike]

ummmm, no.

Its in your download history. You dont need the disk once you export. And if your HD fails you just redownload it from your history.

ok, well I haven't tried deleting my 1.2gb file and re-downloading it without the disk.

But you have apparently, so I stand corrected.

[Ehfahq]

It works just like every track pack, and like everything you will every buy from xbox live.

[Super Bass]

can you re-download from Xbox live, or would you need to use the disc again?

If you downloaded the export from the Music Store on the disc, the track pack file is in your download history (along with the license file). The disc was needed for RB1 because the songs were copied from the disc. In this case, the Lego disc just allows you to download a 45-song track pack from the music store with the one-time export code. So if you get a new hard drive down the road, or delete the Lego songs for space, just check your Purchase History (the same way you'd re-download all other track packs and other game downloads).

EDIT:

Ehfahq beat me to it. :p


For me the game won't let me export right now :(

Are you on 360, or waiting for the 12th on PS3?

*Redeem the game insert code online:
www.rockband.com/lego-export

*Redeem the XBL code you are given (PSN code, when available)
*Go to the Music Store in the L:RB main menu
*Select "Export Download" (check playmike's pic on page 1-post #9)
*Pay the export fee and get the songs

Remember, you can't get the songs until you redeem the insert code for the song license file.



Just wanted to add (incase some people didn't know), the 45 Lego Rock Band songs show up under the "Downloaded" section of RB2. No fancy Lego "disc icon" like RB1 next to them. So that's 45 more songs to scroll through with your DLC (like the 18 AC/DC songs).

[Baanu_Rass]

Just wanted to add (incase some people didn't know), the 45 Lego Rock Band songs show up under the "Downloaded" section of RB2. No fancy Lego "disc icon" like RB1 next to them. So that's 45 more songs to scroll through with your DLC (like the 18 AC/DC songs).

Booya!

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170990

[T-Hybrid]

you would need the disk again.
No, you wouldn't.

Once you purchase the Export License and download the pack, it will be in your purchase history.

This is actually the advantage that a downloadable pack has comparred to the straight rip that was RB1. You wouldn't need the disc again if sometihng happens to your content.

[Klubby]

Am I safe to assume that if I have 2 Xbox 360s, that I am going to have to buy 2 versions of the game AND pay the MS points to export twice?

[Baanu_Rass]

Am I safe to assume that if I have 2 Xbox 360s, that I am going to have to buy 2 versions of the game AND pay the MS points to export twice?

Only if you don't have both of them hooked up to the internet and are willing to share a GT between them.

[T-Hybrid]

ok, well I haven't tried deleting my 1.2gb file and re-downloading it without the disk.

But you have apparently, so I stand corrected.
What's with the lip? It works just like anything else on the XBL.

[Ehfahq]

What's with the lip? It works just like anything else on the XBL.

He doesnt like me because I made fun of his annoying blue text this morning.

[Electric_Zen]

That makes the export useless to me. Good news is, this means I can pick up the game cheap from someone who has used the export code and doesn't want the disc anymore.

[Super Bass]

Booya!

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=170990

I lol'd! :p

When word got around earlier that the export was one file, I wasn't surprised to see the songs under my other DLC when I played "Tick Tick Boom" in RB2.

Songs copied from the disc (RB1): separate sorting
Track Packs: sorted just like other DLC

Anybody else think that using the disc would've been BETTER than a track pack? There's the ability to delete individual songs (of course...many people are disappointed about THAT), but making the "renters" require the disc for re-downloads in the future (like RB1) would've been nice too...right? :confused:

[Lawdog1521]

Am I the only one enjoying the game and not complaining about what or how it does things?

[T-Hybrid]

Track Packs: sorted just like other DLC
LEGO isn't a track pack, as much as it might help you sleep at night to call it such.

If they had wanted, the song files could likely have included the icon and the LRB category information.


Am I the only one enjoying the game and not complaining about what or how it does things?
I would be enjoying the game if I had a chance to run out and buy it sooner. But welcome to the RB forums, where it's never enough.

[playmike]

What's with the lip? It works just like anything else on the XBL.

no lip, sir.:)

[ghostofjarjar]

So much for the disc rip as originally reported. Just another track pack :(

[elitemastersam]

So much for the disc rip as originally reported. Just another track pack :(
I feel the same way. So does this mean the songs will eventually be released as DLC?

[Baanu_Rass]

I feel the same way. So does this mean the songs will eventually be released as DLC?

Probably not (think AC/DC).

[elitemastersam]

Probably not (think AC/DC).
But this is completely different. AC/DC contained just AC/DC, and odds were if you wanted some AC/DC songs, you wouldn't mind being stuck with additional songs from that band. This disc, on the other hand, contains songs from different artists, like other (non-AC/DC) track packs, whose songs are all available (or eventually will be available) as DLC.

[sumo390]

The only complaint I have is that it doesn't sort into Lego Rock Band like RB1 and RB2, other than that it's ****ing amazing!!!!

[Ehfahq]

But this is completely different. AC/DC contained just AC/DC. This contains songs from different artists, like other track packs, except on a much larger scale.

OK, then think RB1. Hehehehe

Im so glad im done with BWT random setlists. I dont have to worry about songs showing up.

[Super Bass]

Am I the only one enjoying the game and not complaining about what or how it does things?

Nope. I just forced myself to take a break a little while ago after playing for almost three straight hours. :)

So I decided to export the songs and check the forums to see how crazy things have gotten since earlier this afternoon. :p


LEGO isn't a track pack, as much as it might help you sleep at night to call it such.

If they had wanted, the song files could likely have included the icon and the LRB category information.

Oh, no. I only used the term "track pack" because that is the name of the export file that is downloaded under the RB1 save files (and how RB2 reads the file). It is DEFINITELY its own game, and I don't think I could feel comfortable just saying that it is a "track pack" (like a game you just play for a few times and never touch again). I'll get over the game not having separate sorting for the export, but the local-only multiplayer is my only issue (it's a kids' game, so I understand).

I have a really good feeling that many families will enjoy this game during the holidays with kids and older relatives. It just sucks that I don't fall under that category--I don't have any kids, and my relatives don't give a crap about GH or RB. I play solo, so online play is the only reason I play RB2 so much. And the local-only gameplay was why I thought about selling my disc sometime in the future--no younglings to share the fun with.

[Mikey35]

So my PS3 hardrive is almost full, and was wondering if I export the songs now to my 80 gig harddrive, when I put in my 320 gig harddrive will I be able to redownload the songs again? And will that count as a 2nd activation?

[Baanu_Rass]

So my PS3 hardrive is almost full, and was wondering if I export the songs now to my 80 gig harddrive, when I put in my 320 gig harddrive will I be able to redownload the songs again? And will that count as a 2nd activation?

Do you have a DL history on PSN? If it's under there then you can re-DL. As for activations, no clue how they work.

[davidshek]

So my PS3 hardrive is almost full, and was wondering if I export the songs now to my 80 gig harddrive, when I put in my 320 gig harddrive will I be able to redownload the songs again? And will that count as a 2nd activation?

You can redownload it at any time from your Download History in the PSN Store.

And no, the 2nd activation would only be if you did it on a 2nd CONSOLE, not a 2nd HDD on the same console.

[Haribokart]

This is the best way to do it, if your HD fails after you've sold Lego RB or you buy a new console you can redownload the tracks without needing the disk again! Nice one Harmonix :)

[Keithustus]

Wow, mega-fail, Harmonix. I WANT Queen and Iggy Pop and others, but hell no, I don't want some of the other songs in my RB2 library. Give us the ability to delete individual files, like we could with the RB1 tracks. I've paid my $10 now want to be able to control what I get for it.

[Abaddon]

I'm very glad they went this way; as a PS3 user the deleting of individual songs wasn't possible with the RB1 export anyway (so PS3 users are losing nothing), and this way, if I ever need to re-download the tracks, I won't need the disc.

[SonicRocker15X]

I was hoping they'd make it impossible to delete individual tracks.
(not being sarcastic)

[Baanu_Rass]

I'm very glad they went this way; as a PS3 user the deleting of individual songs wasn't possible with the RB1 export anyway (so PS3 users are losing nothing), and this way, if I ever need to re-download the tracks, I won't need the disc.

Actually you could. It took a lot of work but you could.

[Skode]

I was hoping they'd make it impossible to delete individual tracks.
(not being sarcastic)

Im with you pal... means everyone has the songs YOU like from the setlist instead of just the songs THEY like. Makes playing them online on RB2 a great deal more possible, to be honest the whole setlist is pretty solid and for all some may not dig the likes of Pink i can safely say there is no "So Whatcha Want" vomit enducing bore fests to be concerned about landing in random setlists.

[Shorty11857]

Gah this is stupid, so I'm stuck with songs I hate for as long as I play the platform that kinda takes away more of the fun, I guess I was beginning to enjoy mystery setlists too much now I get more crap songs to play in them

[JPSChampagne]

This sorting into "downloadable" is absolutely moronic. Just... a baffling decision. It sorts correctly on its own game but can't on Rock Band 2? The only possible way to play these songs online and you can't skip directly to them? This is an absolutely stunning oversight. There was a painfully obvious and convenient way of doing this and this is the way furthest from. Amazingly bad decision.

[PillCounterD]

Great, and all i have left is just under 1.2Gb. I think ill just wait until i get my new Xbox with the 250gb drive. I just wish M$ would come out with w RB SE Xbox with the 250Gb drive. This is a game that will need it more than MW2.

[CreamCrazy]

I don't know if this has been brought up, but this is basically like the 20-Free RB2 Songs. They were sorted like any other DL song, I had a few I didn't like (Hollywood Undead I'm looking in your direction) & wanted to delete them but I couldn't... I wasn't too angry about it.

I deleted all the covers except for TKAR & GGAHT from RB because they were the only covers I liked. The point for me is that as long as it's a master, it's staying with my game. Sure I hate Bon Jovi & Pink but I have to live with the fact they're on the game, stop complaining & just have fun playing it while I can.

Sure L:RB isn't out in the UK yet, but when it is I will be al over it, regardless of all these "problems"

[packerfan8675309]

you need the disk to access the lego song pack



you would need the disk again.

so I'm thinking... you sell the disk, you're screwed. reason being, that it's a unique code for that disk only. if you want the songs again, you'll have to rebuy the game.

This could be another way to burn rent n' rippers.

is that really true? I really doubt that it is a unique code for that disc only.

[Numanoid]

Is it just me, or is the background download option not available for this? I'm stuck on the old style download screen watching it creep up to 100%.

Also, I'm also very disappointed that the songs aren't sorted by game type. Definitely an oversight.

[packerfan8675309]

also where is the code? is it on the back of the manual as usual?

[hawkofva]

is that really true? I really doubt that it is a unique code for that disc only.
No, the Lego Export Pack appears in your download history once you purchase it, so the disc isn't necessary for subsequent DL's of the Lego songs. The code is unique though, and will only enable a single account to purchase the Export.

Is it just me, or is the background download option not available for this? I'm stuck on the old style download screen watching it creep up to 100%.
If you want to download it in the background, stop the download, head to the dash and to your download history (Guide Button -> "Settings" blade on the far right -> "Account Management" -> Download History), then trigger the download there instead. That will let you download it in the background.

also where is the code? is it on the back of the manual as usual?

It's on a small flyer that sits in with the instruction booklet behind the front flap of the case.

[Numanoid]

also where is the code? is it on the back of the manual as usual?

No, it's on a special insert. First thing you see when you open it up.

Oh, and condolences on your packers last week! ;)

[Numanoid]

If you want to download it in the background, stop the download, head to the dash and to your download history (Guide Button -> "System" blade (or whatever it's called on the far right) -> "Account" somethingoranother -> Download History), then trigger the download there instead. Then you'll be able to download it in the background.

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Man, I'm such a 360 noob. I looked for 5 minutes on where to try to do that but didn't find it.

Can you answer me this: If I cancel now (at 43%) will it resume from that point or does it start over? I'm inclined to watch TV until it finishes in the old style if it needs to start over.

The sad part is that I have a 15Mbps down and it's taking forever. Bottleneck somewhere.

[hawkofva]

Man, I'm such a 360 noob. I looked for 5 minutes on where to try to do that but didn't find it.

Can you answer me this: If I cancel now (at 43%) will it resume from that point or does it start over? I'm inclined to watch TV until it finishes in the old style if it needs to start over.

The sad part is that I have a 15Mbps down and it's taking forever. Bottleneck somewhere.
I'm not sure. I did that before I passed 1%. With regular marketplace downloads, it resumes, but since that first one was initiated through the game... *shrug*.

The main game is really fun though. I dare you not to grin during the Ghostbusters bit. :D

[p00kster]

It won't even let me export the songs. When I try to purchase to do the export, I get an XBOX Live error saying it's not available. :(

[hawkofva]

It won't even let me export the songs. When I try to purchase to do the export, I get an XBOX Live error saying it's not available. :(
Have you redeemed the code from the insert yet on www.rockband.com/lego-export?

[LuigiHann]

Wow I don't know if I'll even bother to do this. Between the ten bucks, the taking-up-the-majority-of-my-remaining-hard-drive-space-all-at-once, and the taking-all-day-to-download, I'm not very inclined

[0MFGimCUTE]

Is the export download going EXTREMELY slow for anyone else? Mine has been downloading since 4:45pm...now it is 7:45pm and its only at 80%...FML

[HaloOfTheSun]

It took about 20 minutes for me, and my download speed is not that great.

[Alright_Computer]

The download's probably so slow because so many people are downloading it at the same time, so whichever servers the files are hosted on can't handle it very well. It was the same deal when the 20 free songs were released a year ago. It took me a good 2 hours or so for me to get it done and it froze a bunch of times, but it still finished eventually.

[Sambo110]

Why do you have to download anything? Why can't it be like RB1 and download from the disc.

[SonicRocker15X]

Why do you have to download anything? Why can't it be like RB1 and download from the disc.

Because HMX said it can't. That's why.

(In all honesty that's about all the answer you'll get)

[ToddlerTN]

My daughter (not living with me) loves these songs, but it kills me that they removed online play. So to play these songs online with her, we have to buy two games, and purchase two downloads? Yuck.

If there's anybody who isn't going to use their code, I could sure use an extra for her 360 so we can each play these songs together online in RB2. Send me a message and maybe somehow I can pay back your kindness.

[T-Hybrid]

Why do you have to download anything? Why can't it be like RB1 and download from the disc.
While you may not think so, it's actually better than it's a solid download instead of being ripped from the disc.

Why?

Because if you sell the disc and later need the data again, you can just go to your purchase history and redownload the pack vs. having to find a disc to rip the songs from a second time.

[playmike]

Why do you have to download anything? Why can't it be like RB1 and download from the disc.
To burn thieves who planed on "renting and ripping", as they did with RB1. The early hours this morning were quite funny seeing the renters asking where the codes were :D :D :D

[Nimohtar]

I would like to know why my code wasn't found when I entred it in the site. Seems dumb to not ensure that this works if Harmonix wants my money.

[G_tarRoCK3R]

I would like to know why my code wasn't found when I entred it in the site. Seems dumb to not ensure that this works if Harmonix wants my money.

Apparently they already have your money....OR you rented it. Fail.

[whofan]

That. Sucks.

Very, very poor decision. With this many songs, there is no reason we shouldn't have had a RB1 style export. Just miserably disappointing.
My guess is this came about as a result of Artist worries (what artist wants you to be able to delete their songs) and/or as a result of all the PS3 *****ing that went on with RB1, to prevent the PS3 from being called "the red-headed stepchild" and HMX from being called a bunch of 360 fanboys.

[LoopyChew]

I think there's a very, very simple reason that hasn't been discussed yet:

RB1 compatibility.

When RB2 came out, the RB1 export was a program that, for the 360 at least, turned the files into "save games" that RB2 could read. However, RB1 was never given the ability to read those files (it wouldn't need to--all the songs are already available on-disc). RB1 itself hasn't been patched to play anything else but DLC. So whenever a title needs to "export" itself, it needs to do so in a way that it can be read in RB1. The answer: Another giant DLC file.

This was easily justified for the "Track Packs," which were basically meant to be DLC anyway. It makes a little less sense to me for title games (which also begets the question, is Lego Rock Band a title game?), and it makes me wonder how RB2 tracks are going to be sorted in the future when they're exported, and how they're planning on making it compatible with the original Rock Band (or IF they plan on making it compatible with original Rock Band). For HMX, the only situation in which they wouldn't be demonized by some vocal group or another would be if they went and patched RB1 to recognize future meta-file formats, and I don't know whether it's financially (since it costs money to patch games) or technically viable to do so. If they make RB2 exports compatible with RB1 without patching, odds are they'd have to turn them into "DLC," and you'd get the ruckus you're seeing here. If they make RB2 songs incompatible with RB1, SOMEONE is going to complain for reasons I won't understand, but you KNOW someone will complain, and will be vocal about it, and will probably get enough people on board to make other forum-goers annoyed by it.

[T-Hybrid]

I don't care HOW the songs are handled when they export just as long as they are exported. But I was thinking the same thing too. Though I would think that the sorting information would be something that RB1 simply wouldn't read.

But I'd have to check with somebody who can read the metadata of an RB file to see if they can make sense of how the "location" sort is done.

While I don't like the sorting to "Downloaded", I still think the track pack style export is the better option in the long run...simply because it puts the LEGO songs in your purchase history as opposed to requiring a disc.

People who are buying LEGO to rip it and sell it should be happy it works like this. Because if you have to get a new HDD, or if the data becomes corrupt somehow, you don't have to track down a new LEGO disc to re-export the songs.

[LoopyChew]

The best overall solution in the future, as far as I believe, is coming up with a Rock Band meta-file format. Essentially:

Starting with, say, RB2 exports, all future "exports" are made into Rock Band 2 save files (the way things were in Rock Band 1--this way, there's no way RB1 accidentally reads its own files). The metadata in this file includes everything that's contained in DLC, plus a "Source:" tag which gets read and interpreted. For example:

Source = ROCK BAND 2;
Source = LEGO ROCK BAND;
Source = JIM'S BIG EGO: ROCK BAND;

Etc. The icons representing the different sources could either be included with each file (although I assume that would actually be kind of expensive in terms of bandwidth further down the line) or assumed to be in the game, and if not, replaced with a DLC icon.

Current games (1/2/potentially LEGO) would have to be patched, obviously, but this saves the trouble of future releases not having this problem.

This is, of course, assuming that they haven't been working on something like this already.

[ToddlerTN]

My daughter (not living with me) loves these songs, but it kills me that they removed online play. So to play these songs online with her, we have to buy two games, and purchase two downloads? Yuck.

[gcooldude]

My daughter (not living with me) loves these songs, but it kills me that they removed online play. So to play these songs online with her, we have to buy two games, and purchase two downloads? Yuck.

If there's anybody who isn't going to use their code, I could sure use an extra for her 360 so we can each play these songs together online in RB2. Send me a message and we can work something out.

Can you just buy two export keys of live like I think you could do with RB1?

[taylorlee]

Maybe the size of the download explains the hefty fee.

1.2 Gigabytes is a hefty chunk of space, and I can't imagine the bandwidth being too cheap.

It makes more sense than my previous theory about the cardboard insert boosting shipping costs, and the need to offset.

[Ehfahq]

Can you just buy two export keys of live like I think you could do with RB1?

No you cant.

[taylorlee]

Can you just buy two export keys of live like I think you could do with RB1?


I'm not entirely certain how it works, but I think you can only redeem the license once, by using a code.

[ToddlerTN]

Nope, you need to also use a unique code that came inside the game. It was on an insert right in front of the manual right when I opened the box. That's why I need another code for my daughter's 360.

[Ehfahq]

Nope, you need to also use a unique code that came inside the game. It was on an insert right in front of the manual right when I opened the box. That's why I need another code for my daughter's 360.

If all you need is a code, you should go sell your game to gamestop for 17 bucks. And buy another brand new copy at frys for 37 bucks.

It will cost you 20 bucks in the long run. Not too shabby.

[JPSChampagne]

The improper sorting, to me, is a much bigger deal than the forced 100% export is ever going to be. I really hope the wheels are turning on some way to correct this and make these songs sort under their proper heading in Rock Band 2. I can't imagine the Rock Band 1 community being too vocal about Lego not exporting into that game. While I understand that some places outside the US still don't have Rock Band 2... isn't that a bigger problem than Lego going into 1?

I can't see a whole lot of very good reasons it was handled like this and I really hope HMX has some kind of plan to correct it, either with a patch of some kind to Rock Band 2, or something in the inevitable Rock Band 3.

[gcooldude]

No you cant.

I haven't bought the game yet but do you need a key from the manual like the track pack? Os is it live RB1 where it was purchased off XBL? If you get it off Live, in theory you could just rent the game and export the songs?

[ToddlerTN]

If all you need is a code, you should go sell your game to gamestop for 17 bucks. And buy another brand new copy at frys for 37 bucks.

It will cost you 20 bucks in the long run. Not too shabby.
I suppose that is the worst-case scenario. I know what HMX is trying to do with the code thing, but there are already online ads selling for $10, and a handful of kids working at Gamestop or Blockbuster are getting quite a windfall from it.

[msu90]

Hi, need a little help. I am still getting an ec code win trying to export. Did anyone else get this error code and if so what did you do to fix it? Thanks for your help.

[ToddlerTN]

I haven't bought the game yet but do you need a key from the manual like the track pack? Os is it live RB1 where it was purchased off XBL? If you get it off Live, in theory you could just rent the game and export the songs?
I think LRB works just like a track pack, but I've never bought a track pack. Other than RB1, RB2 and LRB discs, I've only bought tracks from DLC. But I thought the track packs are also available for direct purchase on XBL, right? Do you need a disc to buy regular track packs?

[JBurton]

How do the songs appear in RB2 when sorted by location?

DLC or Lego: Rock Band?

Just curious and not wanting to sift through 6 pages.

[Ehfahq]

Lego Export:

Get code.
Enter code into website.
Get download code
Turn on LRB
Go to Music store
And follow the steps to export.



How do the songs appear in RB2 when sorted by location?

DLC or Lego: Rock Band?

Just curious and not wanting to sift through 6 pages.

They sort as normal DLC. Which is annoying some people. I really dont care.

[JBurton]

Dang that sucks. Thanks for answering though. Doesnt affect me really. Once I got to a point where it was a hassle to sort by DLC, I started sorting by artist. But I would have liked to see the LEGO symbol next to the songs instead of the arrow.

[Plutarch]

No cherry-picking = fail. Even though I do like most of the songs, it's still a big disappointment. My DLC list is crowded enough.

At least the game is really fun, and I might just forego the export altogether and save the 1.2 GB.

[Oscar-Rio]

It's one big file, which means you cannot.

And with that swing of the axe, I won't ever be purchasing Lego: Rock Band.

[ToddlerTN]

No cherry-picking = fail. Even though I do like most of the songs, it's still a big disappointment. My DLC list is crowded enough.

At least the game is really fun, and I might just forego the export altogether and save the 1.2 GB.
Plutarch, I can't send you a message, but if you decide not to export, PLEASE message me. I need an extra code for my daughter (not living with me) so we can play the songs together online in RB2.

[Ehfahq]

It might be a good idea to stop asking people for codes.

[Plutarch]

Well, I'm still weighing the choice and I want to see what my guitarist and drummer friends think. But honestly, if I decide not to, I've got other friends with RB2 who would probably appreciate it. Gotta look out for your own, you know?

[ToddlerTN]

Yep, Plutarch, I know what you mean. I'll be here if you change your mind.

What exactly are the rules around export codes? Is it wrong somehow to sell an export code? If you look on eBay, there are used LRB listings with and without the codes. Can you only sell the code if you also include the disc? Or are those auctions selling the code when they shouldn't?

[davidshek]

What exactly are the rules around export codes? Is it wrong somehow to sell an export code? If you look on eBay, there are used LRB listings with and without the codes. Can you only sell the code if you also include the disc? Or are those auctions selling the code when they shouldn't?

On Ebay, there are no rules. If you bought it, you can sell it however you want.

However, on THIS forum, they have rules against selling anything and everything.

[ToddlerTN]

On Ebay, there are no rules. If you bought it, you can sell it however you want.

However, on THIS forum, they have rules against selling anything and everything.

Are there rules about giving them away?

[monkeyfish]

Are there rules about giving them away?

Yes, the main rule is all giveaways must be given to a forumgoer who has "Monkey" and/or "Fish" in his account name. :)

[hawkofva]

Are there rules about giving them away?
No, but begging is frowned upon.

I haven't bought the game yet but do you need a key from the manual like the track pack? Os is it live RB1 where it was purchased off XBL? If you get it off Live, in theory you could just rent the game and export the songs?
There's an insert in the packaging with a serial number. You can enter that number at the website (www.rockband.com/lego-export) to receive a free Download Token (25-digit alphanumeric code) for the Lego export key. You can redeem this code only on one account. Once you have downloaded the free key, you can access a special part of the on-disc music store where you can purchase the $10 Lego Rock Band Export Pack, which is the 1.2GB file containing all the songs from the game.

I suppose that is the worst-case scenario. I know what HMX is trying to do with the code thing, but there are already online ads selling for $10, and a handful of kids working at Gamestop or Blockbuster are getting quite a windfall from it.They're just going to be ripping people off then. You have to have the game itself in order to access the Export Pack. The key is useless without the game.


Hi, need a little help. I am still getting an ec code win trying to export. Did anyone else get this error code and if so what did you do to fix it? Thanks for your help.Have you already downloaded the Export Key (www.rockband.com/lego-export)?


I think LRB works just like a track pack, but I've never bought a track pack. Other than RB1, RB2 and LRB discs, I've only bought tracks from DLC. But I thought the track packs are also available for direct purchase on XBL, right? Do you need a disc to buy regular track packs?

Track Packs come with one-time-use download tokens that do not require the disc. You can redeem them through the regular online stores for the PS3 or 360 without ever placing the disc in your console.

[ToddlerTN]

They're just going to be ripping people off then. You have to have the game itself in order to access the Export Pack. The key is useless without the game.
I think they're selling them to people who either borrow or rent the game to then get to the download screen. Once you do that, you don't need the game again.

[msu90]

No, but begging is frowned upon.

There's an insert in the packaging with a serial number. You can enter that number at the website (www.rockband.com/lego-export) to receive a free Download Token (25-digit alphanumeric code) for the Lego export key. You can redeem this code only on one account. Once you have downloaded the free key, you can access a special part of the on-disc music store where you can purchase the $10 Lego Rock Band Export Pack, which is the 1.2GB file containing all the songs from the game.
They're just going to be ripping people off then. You have to have the game itself in order to access the Export Pack. The key is useless without the game.

Have you already downloaded the Export Key (www.rockband.com/lego-export)?



Track Packs come with one-time-use download tokens that do not require the disc. You can redeem them through the regular online stores for the PS3 or 360 without ever placing the disc in your console.

yes I went to the web site and got my code went back to the lego music store hit export, then purchase, and I keep getting error code 800 something try again later. Any help out there.

[hawkofva]

yes I went to the web site and got my code went back to the lego music store hit export, then purchase, and I keep getting error code 800 something try again later. Any help out there.
Have you rebooted the game since you downloaded the key? I understand that was part of the problem for some people.

[msu90]

I have done everything other than physically take it out of the 360 and put it back in.

[Keithustus]

Harmonix, the community seems to have two disagreements with you about the Lego Rock Band song exports:

1. Why does it have to be one big file? Yes, it's nice to have it in the download history, so that we no longer need the disk later, but could it not also have been possible to have it download all the tracks separately after entering the codes, or to have the 1.2GB file break itself into 45 individual files? There are NOT a lot of players who want ALL the songs in their playlists, so it would be nice to be able to keep the Queen and Hendrix and eliminate P!nk, for instance. As it is it feels like we're being taken advantage of, Harmonix, like we're being FORCED to have bad, bad music in our collections.

2. Why do the songs appear as standard DLC? Couldn't they have been listed in RB2 as from LRB? Does RB2 not have the option to label sources other than from RB1, RB2, and DLC? Couldn't it have been easy to release a small patch for RB2 so that it recognizes more source categories than those three? What section are the AC/DC songs sorted into, its own or DLC?

But thanks for getting us more music anyway. It's just frustrating to see it done exactly this way, when you could have satisfied everyone by taking those two points into consideration beforehand.

[davidshek]

1. Why does it have to be one big file? Yes, it's nice to have it in the download history, so that we no longer need the disk later, but could it not also have been possible to have it download all the tracks separately after entering the codes, or to have the 1.2GB file break itself into 45 individual files? There are NOT a lot of players who want ALL the songs in their playlists, so it would be nice to be able to keep the Queen and Hendrix and eliminate P!nk, for instance. As it is it feels like we're being taken advantage of, Harmonix, like we're being FORCED to have bad, bad music in our collections.

Well this one shows me that you don't know much about how computer systems work. That's not meant as a personal insult, just an observation. Files cannot "break themselves into smaller files", and you can't use 1 redemption code to redeem 45 individual files. 1 code = 1 file, that's the way these consoles and their respective marketplaces (XBL and PSN) work.


2. Why do the songs appear as standard DLC? Couldn't they have been listed in RB2 as from LRB? Does RB2 not have the option to label sources other than from RB1, RB2, and DLC? Couldn't it have been easy to release a small patch for RB2 so that it recognizes more source categories than those three? What section are the AC/DC songs sorted into, its own or DLC?.

Because they ARE downloaded songs, just like the Track Pack exports. AC/DC songs show up in the Downloaded section too.

[T-Hybrid]

Harmonix, the community seems to have two disagreements with you about the Lego Rock Band song exports:

It's just frustrating to see it done exactly this way, when you could have satisfied everyone by taking those two points into consideration beforehand.

Why is it that some people feel the need to speak for "everybody" in situations such as this.

I'm going to say this one more time, but use bold and a larger font...maybe that will make sense then.

Making the export a file download stores the exportation in your purchase history. So if you ever have a situation in which you need to get the content again, you don't have to have the LEGO disc laying around. So once you finish with the game and export, you are free to sell it back without having to worry about needing it if your HDD goes *thhpppt*

Yeesh.

[hawkofva]

Why is it that some people feel the need to speak for "everybody" in situations such as this.

I'm going to say this one more time, but use bold and a larger font...maybe that will make sense then.

Making the export a file download stores the exportation in your purchase history. So if you ever have a situation in which you need to get the content again, you don't have to have the LEGO disc laying around. So once you finish with the game and export, you are free to sell it back without having to worry about needing it if your HDD goes *thhpppt*

Yeesh.
Relax there, Hybrid. The reasoning behind why this export was implemented the way it was is known only to the people who worked on it. Your opinion on why this is a good way to do it is no more valid than his opinion on why it wasn't the best way to do it just because you type it more often and in bigger text.

They'll get over it, or they won't. We know where you stand on the matter, but this discussion has devolved into the same people saying the same things over and over again and getting irate when people disagree. They're allowed to disagree. Don't let them bother you.

[T-Hybrid]

Your opinion on why this is a good way to do it is no more valid than his opinion on why it wasn't the best way to do it just because you type it more often and in bigger text.
The problem I have is he pretends to speak for the entire community. Claiming his solution is "better" because it pleases everybody.

When in reality, one complaint after the RB1 export was that people who lost the content due to HDD issues had no means of getting it back without renting/rebuying RB1.

HMX listened to the customers...and now they've gone and changed their minds again.

[ToddlerTN]

Because they ARE downloaded songs, just like the Track Pack exports. AC/DC songs show up in the Downloaded section too.
So LRB is really a track pack? I guess so, since exports from full-fledged games show up labeled as such (RB1).

[T-Hybrid]

So LRB is really a track pack? I guess so, since exports from full-fledged games show up labeled as such (RB1).
*sigh*

LEGO is so much more than a Track Pack, that much is obvious to anybody who spends more than 5 minutes with it.

But if it helps you sleep at night...

[ToddlerTN]

Why is it that some people feel the need to speak for "everybody" in situations such as this.

I'm going to say this one more time, but use bold and a larger font...maybe that will make sense then.

Making the export a file download stores the exportation in your purchase history. So if you ever have a situation in which you need to get the content again, you don't have to have the LEGO disc laying around. So once you finish with the game and export, you are free to sell it back without having to worry about needing it if your HDD goes *thhpppt*

Yeesh.
Do you guys really have such a hard time keeping track of your game discs? Or are you just excited because this way you can sell the LRB disc and still keep the content?

[ToddlerTN]

The problem I have is he pretends to speak for the entire community. Claiming his solution is "better" because it pleases everybody.

When in reality, one complaint after the RB1 export was that people who lost the content due to HDD issues had no means of getting it back without renting/rebuying RB1.

HMX listened to the customers...and now they've gone and changed their minds again.
Seems you're also trying to speak for the entire community as well.

If I were HMX, I'd tell my customers tough luck if they sold their RB1 disc and then end up wishing they hadn't.

[T-Hybrid]

Seems you're also trying to speak for the entire community as well.
Um, what? There were people who had issues with the HDD after selling their RB1 discs. And those people WERE disappointed that there wasn't an easy way to get their content back.

I'm not speaking for "everybody", just those that actually stated what I have written above. Learn to read, it'll help you spot differences such as that.


Do you guys really have such a hard time keeping track of your game discs?
Other things can happen. Such as a disc getting damaged.


Or are you just excited because this way you can sell the LRB disc and still keep the content?
I didn't sell RB1 until about 6 months after RB2 came out. If I ever sell LEGO, it will likely be after the same amount of time (a year and a half).

If you've paid even a bit of attention to my posts over the past few months, you should know I intend to keep LEGO around for a while.

[ToddlerTN]

I don't see the point of selling my RB1, BR2 or LRB discs. They're practically worthless in terms of trade value.

[T-Hybrid]

I don't see the point of selling my RB1, BR2 or LRB discs. They're practically worthless in terms of trade value.
I had gotten all of the achievements I could from RB1, and the online community had moved on to RB2. The game had more value as a trade in (I included it in a set of three games to ge a bonus) towards The Beatles than it did sitting on my shelf never to be played again.

[ToddlerTN]

I'm not speaking for "everybody", just those that actually stated what I have written above. Learn to read, it'll help you spot differences such as that.

I actually happen to agree with you in terms of the 1.2GB download, but your personal opinion is no more valid than the other guy's opinion. I'm not the first person in this thread to point that out. The personal insults are really unnecessary.

[T-Hybrid]

but your personal opinion is no more valid than the other guy's opinion.
Once again, the difference is I don't present my opinion as being that of "the community". I'm simply reminding the user that the alternative he's purporting as the one "the community" wants, was what was previously offered...and actually one that lead to documented issues and thus did not please "the community" as he assumes it would.

Hence the resolution (present the content as a downloadable pack vs. content ripped from the disc).

[ToddlerTN]

Once again, the difference is I don't present my opinion as being that of "the community". I'm simply reminding the user that the alternative he's purporting as the one "the community" wants, was what was previously offered...and actually one that lead to documented issues and thus did not please "the community" as he assumes it would.

Hence the resolution (present the content as a downloadable pack vs. content ripped from the disc).
Your choice to use the ridiculous giant bold font, saying things like "I'm going to say this one more time, in a giant bold font, so maybe it will make sense", wrapping it in insults and closing with an exasperated "yeesh" as if differing opinions are simply an exhausting intrusion into your happy little world, commenting that someone who hasn't been persuaded by your words must not know how to read...it sure comes off as if you think your opinions speak for the "community" and all other opinions are unwelcome.

Truth be told, neither the RB1 approach nor the "track pack" approach will please everyone. I don't mind a 1.2GB download, but I can certainly see both sides, and it just seems pointless to get too worked up over it.

[T-Hybrid]

...it sure comes off as if you think your opinions speak for the "community" and all other opinions are unwelcome.
For cryin' out loud, the guy said his "solution" would make everybody happy, I simply pointed out that would not be the case using the previous export as an example.

2-3 pages later...you still think that somehow this is my "opinion" when all I did was provided a counter to his assumption that "everybody" (his words not mine) would be pleased with the solution he presented.

It's not my "opinion" that the previous export was met with some criticism due to it requiring a disc to read from. That is fact.

If you still don't get that, just let me know and I will add you to my ignore list so I don't waste anymore time trying to explain the difference.

[ToddlerTN]

If you still don't get that, just let me know and I will add you to my ignore list so I don't waste anymore time trying to explain the difference.
It has nothing to do with "getting" you, but yeah, please add me to your ignore list.

[hawkofva]

If I were HMX, I'd tell my customers tough luck if they sold their RB1 disc and then end up wishing they hadn't.
As would I. I personally preferred the disc-rip method of exporting, but then again, I'm running a 750kbps dorm internet connection, so my reasons are strictly technical. (That, and deleting "Sabotage" from the Rock Band 1 set was the most satisfying moment of my Rock Band career.)

I don't see the point of selling my RB1, BR2 or LRB discs. They're practically worthless in terms of trade value.

The Export came out before the new game, so my copy in particular joined several other games (ironically including Guitar Hero 3 and Aerosmith) as down payment towards Rock Band 2. I think it was worth something in the neighborhood of $10 at the time, which can make quite a difference on a college budget.

That said, I have no intentions of selling Lego anytime soon. I just doubt that the reasons for making the Lego Export into a download file instead of a rip have anything to do with making it easier to sell the game and undercut their future profits.

[T-Hybrid]

It has nothing to do with "getting" you, but yeah, please add me to your ignore list.
Wow, that's almost tragically stubborn.

Final recap before I never see your posts again:

His statement: "This solution makes everybody happy."
My counterpoint: "A similiar solution last year was met with complaints. Meaning not everybody was happy."

Summary: "Don't speak for 'everybody' when there's clear examples where 'somebody' didn't see it your way."

Goodbye.

[ToddlerTN]

Goodbye.
Thank you.

[dxbrbnk]

DO YOU NEED THE LEGO DISC TO EXPORT? (Please be no, I just traded it in at Play N Trade today but kept the code)

[hawkofva]

DO YOU NEED THE LEGO DISC TO EXPORT? (Please be no, I just traded it in at Play N Trade today but kept the code)
The code only snags you a free license key. You need the license key to get access to the $10 Export Pack within the game disc's built in Music Store.

So yes, you need a game disc.

[dxbrbnk]

The code only snags you a free license key. You need the license key to get access to the $10 Export Pack within the game disc's built in Music Store.

So yes, you need a game disc.

Damn it, I am going to play N Trade tomorrow with my hard drive then.

can you post the link to the download file? (from Xbox.com)

Why do they have to make it so complicated? I bought the game and have a code, why can't I just download the damn song!!! rawr I'm really upset right now!!! :mad::mad::mad:

Edit: I can't even go to play n trade now, my HDD has the preview and theirs doesn't. If I put my HDD in their 360, it'll be locked out of live!!! Damn it!!! Harmonix/Microsoft please make this easier! Everyone else is getting errors. Just make the LRB code goto a file that allows you to buy the songs. And then make the price 9999999 MSP like all the other promo/special stuff.

[hawkofva]

Damn it, I am going to play N Trade tomorrow with my hard drive then.

can you post the link to the download file? (from Xbox.com)That won't do you any good. It won't let you buy it unless you're in the game.


Why do they have to make it so complicated? I bought the game and have a code, why can't I just download the damn song!!! rawr I'm really upset right now!!! :mad::mad::mad:Specifically? To ensure that people who buy the game can extend their enjoyment of it into the main setlist of the series. It wasn't intended to be a snatch & grab affair like you're making it out to be.


Edit: I can't even go to play n trade now, my HDD has the preview and theirs doesn't. If I put my HDD in their 360, it'll be locked out of live!!! Damn it!!! It's probably for the better. You'd have run into some nasty content-licensing issues down the road if you'd done that.
Harmonix/Microsoft please make this easier! Everyone else is getting errors. Just make the LRB code goto a file that allows you to buy the songs.That's exactly what it is. The framework for that process just happens to be within the game, not the marketplace.

If it makes any further difference, you don't have to have that specific copy of the game. Once you download the License Key from the code you kept, you can purchase the export pack from any copy of Lego Rock Band.

[Ehfahq]

stuff.

Go rent the game and export your songs now that you have a code.

Problem solved.

*que complaining about cost of rental*

[dxbrbnk]

Go rent the game and export your songs now that you have a code.

Problem solved.

*que complaining about cost of rental*

No complaining except that my local Blockbuster is closing down and is no longer renting anything. They only have old dvds/games to sell. My local library has it and the rentals there are free :D:D I just have to put myself on the hold list.

Nevermind, the library has it ordered since July, doubt it'll ever come in.

[Ehfahq]

How about you get a free trial to gamefly? Get the game, send it back in and cancle the account. It will cost you nothing. And you will get the game in a few days.

[dxbrbnk]

How about you get a free trial to gamefly? Get the game, send it back in and cancle the account. It will cost you nothing. And you will get the game in a few days.

I am thinking about that too. I might just drive to another Blockbuster around Thanksgiving (the next weekend I'll actually have time to play)

[Keithustus]

Well this one shows me that you don't know much about how computer systems work. That's not meant as a personal insult, just an observation. Files cannot "break themselves into smaller files", and you can't use 1 redemption code to redeem 45 individual files. 1 code = 1 file, that's the way these consoles and their respective marketplaces (XBL and PSN) work.

LOL, I've never seen anyone who claims to be an expert at computer systems who fails so unequivocally. I guess you've never heard of a .zip file? OR .rar? Ya, I'm sure that Xboxes are way too primitive to use technology from the 1990s.



Because they ARE downloaded songs, just like the Track Pack exports. AC/DC songs show up in the Downloaded section too.

You just are a bucket of fail, aren't you? Don't you remember them patching RB1 to enable ripping the songs? In your world it must be possible to patch a game to enable ripping, but impossible to patch a game to correctly identify the source of songs?

Talk about dumb.

[LoopyChew]

LOL, I've never seen anyone who claims to be an expert at computer systems who fails so unequivocally. I guess you've never heard of a .zip file? OR .rar? Ya, I'm sure that Xboxes are way too primitive to use technology from the 1990s.

Even funnier is that you think that file compression are a '90's technology. They've been around WAY longer than that.

What the misinterpretation is here is that it's not that 360s and PS3s are primitive and CAN'T use that kind of technology, it's about the way Microsoft DESIGNED the marketplace. Just like it's theoretically technically possible to let the different types of consoles play nice with each other but MS and Sony won't allow for it.

And what he said is mostly technically correct. A zip file cannot break itself into a 45 separate files; you need a Zip file program (like the one built into Windows XP and later) to open it. Same with WinRAR. I suppose self-extracting files are a giant zip file AND the zip file program bundled together and extracting itself, but that's entirely beside the point he's trying to make.

ETA:

In your world it must be possible to patch a game to enable ripping, but impossible to patch a game to correctly identify the source of songs?

Patches cost money and take time to make. When they patched RB1 for file export, I don't think LEGO Rock Band was even a twinkle in TT's eye, so they hadn't anticipated it (I believe this IS a fault on Harmonix's part, personally, but that's the way it goes). They've already spent money patching RB1 at least twice (once for the in-game Music Store, once for exports), and it's no longer cost-effective for them to patch it (how many people do YOU know play RB1?).

Even so, there ARE people out there who have only played RB1, or have played LRB and have seen RB1 on the cheap, and would like to play their Lego songs in RB1. The easiest, most cost-effective way of doing this was turning the Lego songs into DLC, an external format which RB1 already accepts (and the only one).

The quickest metaphor I can think of: You have an MP3 player that really just plays MP3s. Your computer has a bunch of software that allows you to play MP3s too, but your ripping software also allows ripping your CDs into a superior (in terms of quality-for-bitrate) format (AAC, FLAC, take your pick). However, if you rip your music into THOSE formats, your MP3 player can't handle it. You can reprogram your MP3 player to try and read those other formats, or you can just stick with the MP3s. One's a lot easier than the other, as you can see.

In this case, RB1 is the MP3 player, RB2 is the one on your computer, LRB is the CD that needs ripping, and the music is...well, the music.


You just are a bucket of fail, aren't you?

Talk about dumb.

Your opinion has been noted.

[davidshek]

And what he said is mostly technically correct. A zip file cannot break itself into a 45 separate files; you need a Zip file program (like the one built into Windows XP and later) to open it. Same with WinRAR. I suppose self-extracting files are a giant zip file AND the zip file program bundled together and extracting itself, but that's entirely beside the point he's trying to make.

That's exactly the point I was making. But you know how people are, some will go out of their way to attempt to misinterpret everything you say just to try to make you look bad. Even if they fail horribly and just make themselves look stupid.


LOL, I've never seen anyone who claims to be an expert at computer systems who fails so unequivocally. I guess you've never heard of a .zip file? OR .rar? Ya, I'm sure that Xboxes are way too primitive to use technology from the 1990s.

Talk about dumb.

Yep, your statements were very dumb, I'm glad you acknowledge that. I don't see Winzip (or tar or gzip or bzip or rar or arc or any other archiving technology you'd choose to pick) installed on my Xbox...is it on yours? That must be fun. The point is that Microsoft does not, and has never, implemented packaged archives on their gaming consoles, let alone self-extracting packages.

And btw, file packaging technology came out in the mid-80's, not 90's. The More You Know...

My statements were specific to the Xbox 360 and the PS3, not PC's, but thanks for playing.

[LoopyChew]

Even if they fail horribly and just make themselves look stupid.

Now now, it's better to save patronizing attitudes for people you actually know. :-P

[davidshek]

Now now, it's better to save patronizing attitudes for people you actually know. :-P

Hey, as an attempted flamebait, I give him an A for effort, but a C- for execution.

And hey, he came after me first. :)

[dxbrbnk]

Can someone post a link to the Xbox.com LRB export download link?

[Ehfahq]

Can someone post a link to the Xbox.com LRB export download link?

Nope.

[davidshek]

Can someone post a link to the Xbox.com LRB export download link?

Here (http://marketplace.xbox.com/en-US/games/offers/0ccf0376-0000-4000-8000-000045410829), but it won't do you any good. You have to go through the game menu to get it.

[Watchmen89]

Here are the tiers in RB2 if anyone would like to know (Scale of 0-6)

Quick Breakdown

Guitar
0: 5
1: 11
2: 18
3: 6
4: 4
5: 1
6: 0

Drums
0: 7
1: 4
2: 8
3: 16
4: 6
5: 4
6: 0

Vocals
0: 6
1: 15
2: 11
3: 8
4: 1
5: 3
6: 1

Bass
0: 16
1: 18
2: 6
3: 3
4: 2
5: 0
6: 0

Individual Song Breakdown

The All-American Rejects "Swing, Swing"
Band 0
Guitar 0
Drum 0
Vocals 2
Bass 0

The Automatic "Monster"
Band 2
Guitar 3
Drum 4
Vocals 1
Bass 1

Blink-182 "Aliens Exist"
Band 3
Guitar 2
Drum 5
Vocals 1
Bass 2

Blur "Song 2"
Band 0
Guitar 1
Drum 2
Vocals 0
Bass 0

Bon Jovi "You Give Love a Bad Name"
Band 1
Guitar 3
Drum 1
Vocals 1
Bass 0

Boys Like Girls "Thunder"
Band 0
Guitar 0
Drum 0
Vocals 1
Bass 0

Bryan Adams "Summer of '69"
Band 0
Guitar 0
Drum 2
Vocals 2
Bass 1

Carl Douglas "Kung Fu Fighting"
Band 2
Guitar 5
Drum 3
Vocals 3
Bass 1

The Coral "Dreaming of You"
Band 0
Guitar 1
Drum 0
Vocals 1
Bass 1

Counting Crows "Accidentally in Love"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 1
Vocals 2
Bass 0

David Bowie "Let's Dance"
Band 0
Guitar 0
Drum 1
Vocals 1
Bass 0

Elton John "Crocodile Rock"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 1
Vocals 3
Bass 1

Europe "The Final Countdown"
Band 2
Guitar 4
Drum 3
Vocals 2
Bass 1

Everlife "Real Wild Child"
Band 3
Guitar 3
Drum 5
Vocals 6
Bass 1

Foo Fighters "Breakout"
Band 2
Guitar 1
Drum 4
Vocals 2
Bass 1

Good Charlotte "Boys & Girls"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 2
Vocals 2
Bass 0

The Hives "Tick Tick Boom"
Band 2
Guitar 1
Drum 3
Vocals 3
Bass 1

Iggy Pop "The Passenger"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 2
Vocals 0
Bass 0

Incubus "Dig"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 2
Vocals 3
Bass 1

Jackson 5 "I Want You Back"
Band 2
Guitar 3
Drum 3
Vocals 5
Bass 3

The Jimi Hendrix Experience "Fire"
Band 4
Guitar 4
Drum 5
Vocals 4
Bass 3

Kaiser Chiefs "Ruby"
Band 1
Guitar 1
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 0

Katrina and the Waves "Walking on Sunshine"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 2
Bass 2

The Kooks "Naive"
Band 2
Guitar 3
Drum 3
Vocals 3
Bass 2

KoRn "Word Up!"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 2

KT Tunstall "Suddenly I See"
Band 3
Guitar 3
Drum 4
Vocals 3
Bass 0

Lostprophets "Rooftops (A Liberation Broadcast)"
Band 1
Guitar 1
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 1

P!nk "So What"
Band 1
Guitar 1
Drum 2
Vocals 2
Bass 0

The Police "Every Little Thing She Does is Magic"
Band 2
Guitar 1
Drum 4
Vocals 3
Bass 1

The Primitives "Crash"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 0
Bass 0

Queen "We Will Rock You"
Band 0
Guitar 0
Drum 0
Vocals 3
Bass 0

Queen "We Are the Champions"
Band 0
Guitar 1
Drum 0
Vocals 2
Bass 0

Rascal Flatts "Life is a Highway"
Band 2
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 5
Bass 3

Ray Parker Jr. "Ghostbusters"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 2
Vocals 1
Bass 1

Razorlight "Stumble and Fall"
Band 2
Guitar 2
Drum 4
Vocals 2
Bass 1

Spin Doctors "Two Princes"
Band 3
Guitar 2
Drum 5
Vocals 2
Bass 4

Spinal Tap "Short and Sweet"
Band 3
Guitar 4
Drum 4
Vocals 1
Bass 4

Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel " Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 2
Vocals 5
Bass 1

Sum 41 "In Too Deep"
Band 3
Guitar 4
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 2

Supergrass "Grace"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 0
Bass 1

T. Rex "Ride a White Swan"
Band 0
Guitar 2
Drum 0
Vocals 0
Bass 0

Tom Petty "Free Fallin'"
Band 0
Guitar 1
Drum 0
Vocals 0
Bass 1

Vampire Weekend "A-Punk"
Band 2
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 2

We the Kings "Check Yes Juliet"
Band 1
Guitar 1
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 0

The Zutons "Valerie"
Band 1
Guitar 2
Drum 3
Vocals 1
Bass 1

[tstlsoom]

is that really true? I really doubt that it is a unique code for that disc only.

well for xbox live, u download it once and you are good. if u ever need to download again, just go to the marketplace and check recent downloads. click on the export and bam you are done.

[T-Hybrid]

In your world it must be possible to patch a game to enable ripping, but impossible to patch a game to correctly identify the source of songs?
It wouldn't be RB2 that needed the patch. It can only read the content that's contained in the song bundle. If there's no information that tells RB2 "Hey, I sort as LEGO category", then there's nothing it can do.

[Ehfahq]

It wouldn't be RB2 that needed the patch. It can only read the content that's contained in the song bundle. If there's no information that tells RB2 "Hey, I sort as LEGO category", then there's nothing it can do.

Ya know T I was thinking about this issue last night. And since im not a lawyer I could be talking about of my ass.......

But wouldnt HMX have to pay Lego a fee for using the term Lego in RB2? Since LEGO is a registered trademark. Could that be a reason why it doesnt sort that way.

I dont know.

[davidshek]

But wouldnt HMX have to pay Lego a fee for using the term Lego in RB2? Since LEGO is a registered trademark. Could that be a reason why it doesnt sort that way.

Yes indeed they would, and while nobody (except HMX) knows for sure, that's a good deduction. :)

[osteofight]

Hold on, if I can't toss the stuff I don't like I no-buyee. I'm already a little miffed the new Lips game doesn't seem to be able to let me banish songs from my sight like its predecessor.

[T-Hybrid]

But wouldnt HMX have to pay Lego a fee for using the term Lego in RB2? Since LEGO is a registered trademark. Could that be a reason why it doesnt sort that way.
That's a very distinct possibility. Something like this may be the same reason some of the soundtrack related tracks don't have album art (except in the Music Store)

We won't know for sure until future titles become exportable. This will likely mean no final answer will be available until RB2 becomes exportable at some point down the road.

[LokeDK]

On the PS3, can you export from a European Lego RB into a US RB2? Has anyone tried this?

A lot of Europeans imported RB2 from the US, since the EU release was delayed (for a very long time). Lego RB, however, seems to launch with only little delay here, so it would be a lot easier to just get it locally. The export is a cardinal point though. As fun as rocking with blocks is, I prefer having my library in one location, as much as possible.

[Baker Beauford]

Yes indeed they would, and while nobody (except HMX) knows for sure, that's a good deduction. :)

As a lawyer and someone who slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night that is a very good observation.

Anytime a registered trademark is used by someone who does not own that trademark, permission from the holder or contractual paid use of it is usually needed (not counting fair use, etc defenses).

Look at the blokes over at GH world.Bands are suing them for using their likeness/avatars to sing other people's songs..not just their own songs in the game...whihc is alleged ot to be contracted for (whereas a rock stars "likeness" functions similarly to a trademark).

So, yes, unless specifically contracted for or agreed upon, RB2 cannot use "Lego" to sort DLC in the RB2 game.

but there are always exceptions...lol (ever lawyer always leaves an out for themselves...lol)

[davidshek]

So, yes, unless specifically contracted for or agreed upon, RB2 cannot use "Lego" to sort DLC in the RB2 game.

Now granted, they could use something else as the sorting Location, like "LRB". As long as it didn't say the word "Lego", they'd be alright.

[Dino1626]

As a lawyer and someone who slept at a Holiday Inn Express last night that is a very good observation.



^ That just cracked me up. You have my vote for post of the week. :D

[Keithustus]

But you know how people are, some will go out of their way to attempt to misinterpret everything you say just to try to make you look bad. Even if they fail horribly and just make themselves look stupid.

That certainly is the case. You can try again later if you want, though.

[0x115e]

I can't buy the export for some reason. I keep getting a message about not being able to get something from Live.

I sure hope that goes away soon.

[T-Hybrid]

That certainly is the case. You can try again later if you want, though.
You know, it's generally good practice to have a comeback ready sooner than 2 days after the fact.


Now granted, they could use something else as the sorting Location, like "LRB". As long as it didn't say the word "Lego", they'd be alright.
I suppose that could work, but it all depends on trademarks. LEGO could very well say "We don't want any reference to it at all".

And given recent lawsuits against music game franchises, HMX is smart to err on the side of caution here.

[davidshek]

You know, it's generally good practice to have a comeback ready sooner than 2 days after the fact.

And to have something better than "NO! U!"

[SonicRocker15X]

I can't buy the export for some reason. I keep getting a message about not being able to get something from Live.

I sure hope that goes away soon.

You followed all the export instructions?

[0x115e]

You followed all the export instructions?I'm not sure what I could be missing.

I sign in to Live, start the game, go to the Music Store, then the Export option at the bottom, select purchase. The usual confirmation screen starts to appear, but then closes and is replaced by an error message that says it can't get some information from Live.

It's probably just some kind of temporary problem with Live. I'll try again in the morning.

Edit: Nope, I'm just being a toolbag. I'd failed to actually read the instructions on the flyer about getting the code on the web site and all. :o

[davidshek]

I'm not sure what I could be missing.

I sign in to Live, start the game, go to the Music Store, then the Export option at the bottom, select purchase. The usual confirmation screen starts to appear, but then closes and is replaced by an error message that says it can't get some information from Live.

It's probably just some kind of temporary problem with Live. I'll try again in the morning.

Edit: Nope, I'm just being a toolbag. I'd failed to actually read the instructions on the flyer about getting the code on the web site and all. :o

Right, you're going to need to redeem that code to get the Export key before you can actually download the export pack. :)

[T-Hybrid]

Edit: Nope, I'm just being a toolbag. I'd failed to actually read the instructions on the flyer about getting the code on the web site and all. :o
At least you realized your mistake instead of opening 10-11 threads demanding HMX "fix" it. ;)