Can someobody help with Modern Warefare 2's plot *CONTAINS SPOILERS*

[The Highway To Hell]

*If you do not want any spoilers about Call Of Duty: Modern Warfare 2's plot, than DO NOT read any of the following...












Ok, now that that's out of the way. I beat the single player campaign. And I understand How Mackerov is involved. But how is Sheapord involved? I don't understand at all what his motivation is at all. All I know is that he burned Ghost and Roach to death, and wanted to kill Soap and Price. The only hint I have at what he was trying to do was when he said "5 years ago, I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye". And I assume he's talking about the nuke that killed you in COD4.

So yeah anyways if anybody could help me unscramble this, that would be great.

[dady5000]

Ok, now that that's out of the way. I beat the single player campaign. And I understand How Mackerov is involved. But how is Sheapord involved? I don't understand at all what his motivation is at all. All I know is that he burned Ghost and Roach to death, and wanted to kill Soap and Price. The only hint I have at what he was trying to do was when he said "5 years ago, I lost 30,000 men in the blink of an eye". And I assume he's talking about the nuke that killed you in COD4.

So yeah anyways if anybody could help me unscramble this, that would be great.


Y'know I didn't think of it like that, if true, then he might blame the nuke on Price's unit since they failed to stop the nuke? It's been a while since I played COD4. But MW2's campaign is better IMO, and the two levels with the Tanker(EDIT:Oil Rig) and the Gulag are some of the best levels I'd played in a FPS in ages.

[Meatwad555]

He wanted to be considered a war hero.

[dady5000]

He wanted to be considered a war hero.

This too. He wanted to take all the credit.

[Meatwad555]

This too. He wanted to take all the credit.

Yeah, and with it he could probably run the entire country because the president and his cabinet might have been killed and the United States won't run itself.

Just a guess of course.

[tridentgum0]

Cause he's a douchebag.

[iananderson]

Cause he's a douchebag.

Indeed, I swore at the TV when he shot me. Playing as Soap again alongside Price was a great thing though.

Edit: And he also wanted people to join the Armed Forces (remember, he's a crazy bastard). He saw that even a nuke in the Middle East couldn't motivate people to join so he helped bring the war to the homeland. I can't remember the quote he says, but he says something like "there will be no shortage of people lined up to fight after this"

[woofmix]

Shepperd wanted to rewrite History saying that he was the big hero who stopped Russia from invading America. Take all the credit. It was he who saved DC from burning to the ground blah blah blah. I'm sort of glad they set up a plot for MW3... assuming there will be one.

[Meatwad555]

Indeed, I swore at the TV when he shot me.



Oh god, that part pissed me off as well. I was like, "what the hell is going on?!?!?" Then they throw you into a pile and light you on fire. I've never felt so useless while playing a video game before.

[iananderson]

Oh god, that part pissed me off as well. I was like, "what the hell is going on?!?!?" Then they throw you into a pile and light you on fire. I've never felt so useless while playing a video game before.

It didn't make it any better when he stabs Soap and starts punching the crap out of Price. But the second that knife left my hand and landed in his eye I felt better.

[The Highway To Hell]

Oh god, that part pissed me off as well. I was like, "what the hell is going on?!?!?" Then they throw you into a pile and light you on fire. I've never felt so useless while playing a video game before.That part was just... sad :(

[MrFruitLord]

Oh god, that part pissed me off as well. I was like, "what the hell is going on?!?!?" Then they throw you into a pile and light you on fire. I've never felt so useless while playing a video game before.

When Roach and Ghost die, I can honestly say I was incredibly sad. It was a really, really well done part of a really well done single player.

[DeadPhoenix223]

i dont get why the japs and germs were allies in wwii... life works that way.

[Blackjack041277]

i dont get why the japs and germs were allies in wwii... life works that way.A combination of no conflicts of interest between the two and common potential enemies more than anything else.

Admiral Yamamoto was an outspoken critic of the alliance with Germany.

Heinrich Himmler was known to go off on weird tangents about how the Japanese were "yellow Aryans," and drew comparisons between Japanese pictographs and Nordic runes.

[DeadPhoenix223]

A combination of no conflicts of interest between the two and common potential enemies more than anything else.

Admiral Yamamoto was an outspoken critic of the alliance with Germany.

Heinrich Himmler was known to go off on weird tangents about how the Japanese were "yellow Aryans," and drew comparisons between Japanese pictographs and Nordic runes.

oh. now i get it.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

The entire chapter with Shepard was just silly. I was really digging the whole Wolverines plot element the campaign had until that garbage. The rest of the story was awesome, though. And I agree on The Gulag. It's the best-designed level I've ever played.

[voodoo618]

Am I the only one here who disliked the campaign?

[jonoo24]

Am I the only one here who disliked the campaign?

Yes, bible man.

[ace360]

Am I the only one here who disliked the campaign?

as long as there is a modern warfare 3 and it continues the story from where you left off then I like it.

[Captain Zepp 07]

Oh god, that part pissed me off as well. I was like, "what the hell is going on?!?!?" Then they throw you into a pile and light you on fire. I've never felt so useless while playing a video game before.

I didn't understand why they made Ghost to be some big honcho only to pick him off in the end, but I also swore at the TV when I saw that.


I liked the Campaign, really enjoyed the whole "Run back to the roof", "boat chase", and "Snowmobile getaway". Although they were all bugged and could be done with no effort, still fun at first :)

[ant423]

Campaign mode was freakin epic. That's why I love FPS's, since you (the player) becomes so immersed in the gameplay since everything is seen from the character's eyes. My favourite missions were "Hornet's Nest", "Second Sun/Whiskey Hotel", and "Endgame"

Anyways, back on topic, Shepherd basically wants to become a war hero. I believe he planned to have Allen killed in the undercover mission, and may have even been working with Makarov at the beginning (Only to later betray him, which is why Makarov decides to help you at the end)

[Ryuzaki]

During Endgame, after the helicopter crashes and you start to recover after falling from the waterfall, am I the only one who freaked out a bit since it had the exact same feel as when the nuclear bomb went off in the original MW?
Even when I realized that Soap wasn't on the verge of radioactive death, the feeling of helplessness didn't even start to go away when Price was being beaten to death right in front of me. It felt like something out of a terrific action movie, only much more immerse, and very well done.



On the topic, who better to lead the war on Russia, terrorism, or nationalism-- or even lead the country-- than the man who personally led the defense against the ultra-nationalist Russians, and personally collected data on the terrorists behind it all (and soon kill them as well, as noted by Price.)
I also think that he was trying force Americans into a more nationalistic psychology. I'm fairly sure that his working with the international TF141 was kept on low tabs (and the Task Force itself eventually eliminated), and he would have instead claimed that it was America alone (or at least only America that brought information on Makarov to light, if at all?) As the struggles went on, American forces also become less and less concerned about the conditions of their allies due to an urgent struggle to preserve their own territory, and Shepherd also mentioned how Americans would be lining up to fight.

In any case, MW3 isn't concerned, but the studio has stated that they still intend to create more CoD games, and with the wide-open plot, it seems almost guaranteed. All we know for certain is that Shepherd took extreme and criminal measures to shine himself in the light as a war hero. Whether or not what he would have done would have been "bad" or not isn't certain, since the themes of his death was much more revolved around a personal revenge between Soap+Price & Shepherd than "justice" or "saving" anybody.

[plague]

I just finished the campaign, and here's how I saw it.

Price's team shot a nuclear warhead at the U.S.
The U.S. found out, and wiped out the team that did it.

I agree that it is totally confusing though. I'm sure that I misunderstood.

[jonoo24]

I just finished the campaign, and here's how I saw it.

Price's team shot a nuclear warhead at the U.S.
The U.S. found out, and wiped out the team that did it.

I agree that it is totally confusing though. I'm sure that I misunderstood.

It wasn't a nuke, i think it was an EMP

[Young Bloodlust]

It wasn't a nuke, i think it was an EMP

It was a nuke. Nukes emit an EMP when they are blown up. It was just detonated in extremely high in the air so that there would be a much smaller amount of fallout. Price just wanted to help the Americans and figured an EMP would do just that.

[pacifistWITHgun]

i think Shepard did it cause he was all like "i want all the glory so screw you guys who did all the hard work" or something. But the game gives like no motive for it?

And does Makarov make it out alive? He just kinda disappears in the middle of that fight...

[californication]

Shepard killed Ghost and Roach either because he wanted the credit or because they knew too much IMO.

The campaign for MW2 was great, but nothing topped the moment when your character got nuked in MW1. That was the most memorable video game moment of all time for me.

[HeyRiles]

The cutscene of the astronaut is extremely sad but also hilarious

[pacifistWITHgun]

The cutscene of the astronaut is extremely sad but also hilarious

I honestly didn't even notice you were playing a character until he started screaming and you could see his hands. I was all like WTF?! I figgured it was just like a cutscene or something.

We better see the Canadian army make an appearance in one of these games. The States/Brits have gotten boring.

[Cpt. Overkill]

I find it funny that he left the forums for a few weeks to avoid spoilers, when this is one of the only threads with spoilers.

[BBBD]

As far as I could understand, Sheppard wanted revenge for his men being nuked in the previous MW. He probably felt the measures taken to defeat the Ultranationalists were not enough (as evidenced by them taking control of Russia), and he knew the only way the United States would give him the power and control to wage the war he wanted is if the Ultranationalists were seen as more of a threat by the government. He arranged with Makarov for a patsy to be put in place to frame for the terrorist attack on the Russian airport (how a random PFC that doesn't speak Russian didn't find it suspicious that he was being inserted undercover in a RUSSIAN terrorist cell in close personal contact with the most wanted man in the world, I'll never know). He knew the Ultranationalist response would be to directly attack America and he would be given the power to fight the war he wanted. What Makarov had to gain, it's hard to say. Money? Promise of power once the war was over? Sheppard likely planned on double-crossing him as he did Roach and Ghost (they knew too much). Anyway, Sheppard was motivated by revenge and ambition.

[jonoo24]

What i want to know is why the hell wasn't he given Shoot on site orders for makarov.

[BBBD]

What i want to know is why the hell wasn't he given Shoot on site orders for makarov.

That should have also tipped him off that he was being set up (in addition to going from being a grunt to undercover CIA operative infiltrating the deadliest terrorist group on the planet whose members all speak Russian overnight).

But anyway, that was part of the deal between Makarov and Sheppard - let the American in on the group so he could be framed to spark a war between Russia and the USA. I guess Makarov was going to get rich dealing weapons? Or he was playing both sides against each other by having allies on the American side as well as within the Ultranationalists.