Nailed to the Cross! Its a band, please read! :)

[overdriveguitarman]

Hey!

So I'm really excited because me and my friend just recorded our first song! I would love for you to check it out! :D

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jb3DQ_Y154c

Please leave feedback!

Thank you for your time!

p.s. you finally can see what I look like (I'm the guitarist)

[Cpt. Overkill]

br00tal.

[overdriveguitarman]

We are christian

[Cpt. Overkill]

br00tal-er.

[Joey-Z]

Whats with the tempo change?

[instantdeath999]

br00tal.


We are christian


br00tal-er.

I think that may have been the best exchange I've ever seen on a forum. Well done.

[overdriveguitarman]

Whats with the tempo change?

This is our first try.... lol

Sorry, I actually messed up in parts, but kept going...

Which part anyway? We may do a re-do when we nail it.

Edit: Oh, lol, like everything is in different tempos right? Yeah... we'll fix that with the next song hopefully!

[Joey-Z]

This is our first try.... lol

Sorry, I actually messed up in parts, but kept going...

Which part anyway? We may do a re-do when we nail it.

When the distortion kicks in..

Might want to invest in a bluetooth metronome,
It helps alot during band practice.

[overdriveguitarman]

When the distortion kicks in..

Might want to invest in a bluetooth metronome,
It helps alot during band practice.

Yep, I edited my post right as you posted!

Also, actually it was always at the same level, I used my hand to get the sound at the beginning.

It definitely does help, we will focus more on it next time, thanks! :)

[Joey-Z]

Well, at least it's nice to know that someone has the same price range with guitars as me..

Only yours isn't modded like a pimped out frankenstien.. :D

[overdriveguitarman]

Well, at least it's nice to know that someone has the same price range with guitars as me..

Only yours isn't modded like a pimped out frankenstien.. :D

I spent all the moolah on the amp.

That's a 50W Traynor TUBE amp right there.

You can touch it if you want. :p

[jonoo24]

I want my money back, your not a walrus!

[overdriveguitarman]

I want my money back, your not a walrus!

*hides money behind back*

What money?

[jonoo24]

Are the drums supposed to be playing horribly out of beat at 1:12?

[Joey-Z]

I spent all the moolah on the amp.

That's a 50W Traynor TUBE amp right there.

You can touch it if you want. :p
Good luck hauling that thing anywhere..

A 30w Peavy Vypyr is enough for me..
Ahhh.. The power of digital :p

[overdriveguitarman]

Are the drums supposed to be playing horribly out of beat at 1:12?

I'm not sure, he might have gotten confused, I messed with those riffs so many times, he might have started a previous beat to a riff I made up. :(

You guys are being really nice, I horribly screwed up at 0:46...

I wasn't supposed to do it again! NOOOO!! I ruined like the whole intro there.

Also, my pick was starting to slip so at 1:36 during Jonathon's fill I just held a chord and corrected it.

I would think that you guys would have complained. Thanks! :)

[overdriveguitarman]

Good luck hauling that thing anywhere..

A 30w Peavy Vypyr is enough for me..
Ahhh.. The power of digital :p

Yeah it's way heavier than it looks because of the tubes, but I am alot stronger than I look (seriously, I have like really scrawny arms, but am actually stronger than most people at my school)

[overdriveguitarman]

Grrr....

I suspect Oscar_Rio got to the vid and did a 1 star.

That is not very nice! I think it's at least a 3 star considering this was our first try, and there are some pretty awesome parts!

[Nickalos N]

It is still a nice song even though you guys messed up a couple of times

[overdriveguitarman]

It is still a nice song even though you guys messed up a couple of times

Yeah srry, but if the vid actually gets to 200 views, then we will re-upload it perfect!

Also, we are going to search for a bassist and singer from our school on monday! So we will definitely add bass, and maybe vocals! :)

[Cpt. Overkill]

Overdrive... off-topic, but I see you're going to The National. That place is awesome.

[instantdeath999]

Yeah srry, but if the vid actually gets to 200 views, then we will re-upload it perfect!

Also, we are going to search for a bassist and singer from our school on monday! So we will definitely add bass, and maybe vocals! :)

If I were you, I'd just do the vocals myself, unless you can find a dedicated singer. Still, in my experience, everyone gets along better if they all play an instrument... sometime a dedicated singer can be left out of a jam session, for instance.

[supernova1324]

I regret pausing Meat Loaf for that.

And the drummer cannot play in time.

[Oscar-Rio]

well, i suppose everyone has to start somewhere.

[ffwarrior47]

I regret pausing Metallica for that.

And the drummer cannot play in time.

Exactly.

[Joey-Z]

I regret pausing Metallica for that.

The bassist was probobly just somewhere off stage.

Too right..

[overdriveguitarman]

We'll see if the singer can do rythm guitar, if not, I'll try the vocals.

We are looking for the bassist and singer/rythm guitarist starting monday Joey!

Also, I'm not very good, so I'm happy to have jonathon, I'll let him know about the time thing.and he probably can fix it.

[supernova1324]

Exactly.

Except Meat Loaf is a million times better than Metallica.

[jonoo24]

Your drummer desperately need sot work on his form. Badly.

[Abeotroid]

Not my cuppa tea but you've got a decent thing goin'.

[back_blows]

I am deeply offended by this song.

[jonoo24]

I am deeply offended by this song.

Most of the world is offended by you.

[back_blows]

Most of the world is offended by you.

Why?

[Abeotroid]

Why?
Simply, because.

[supernova1324]

Why?

Not everyone likes trannies.

Especially trannies with beards.

[jonoo24]

Why?

Your satanic, right?

[back_blows]

Your satanic, right?

Maybe from a philosophical perspective, but I don't worship anything.

[jonoo24]

Maybe from a philosophical perspective, but I don't worship anything.

Alright then.

[instantdeath999]

Your satanic, right?

I've always been under the impression that most of his satan worshiping is in jest, since, y'know, it's rule #1 in the "how to be metal" handbook.

And really, anyone who is offended over someones religious beliefs really needs to get over themselves.

Almost forgot; hail Satan.

[Cpt. Overkill]

Did I hear Satan?

[instantdeath999]

Did I hear Satan?

Sorry, you just missed him. He's got a full schedule these days.

[Cpt. Overkill]

Damn. I love that guy. :o

[ffwarrior47]

Damn. I love that guy. :o

He's really busy around this time of year... With the holidays and all... :p

[Rocket2Russia]

He's busy delivering things like this song to all the little boys and girls.

[Alright_Computer]

Damn. I love that guy. :o

Who doesn't?

[bubblegumpop]

I think if you have some effect pedal, either a reverb or delay pedal, it would fit nicely in that intro. I'm not gonna lie, it needs some work but it's not horrible, keep at it!

Oh and nice, I used to have a whole band set up in my room( a 4 piece) and my bed was a few pillows...oh the sacrifice for music :)

[overdriveguitarman]

I think if you have some effect pedal, either a reverb or delay pedal, it would fit nicely in that intro. I'm not gonna lie, it needs some work but it's not horrible, keep at it!

Oh and nice, I used to have a whole band set up in my room( a 4 piece) and my bed was a few pillows...oh the sacrifice for music :)

Thanks!

Definitely needs work, we know! :p

I'm looking into getting a pedal, and if I'm lucky I can get one along with the new guitar I buy next weekend! :D

Starting tomorrow, we are on our search for a bassist and singer!

[plague]

Is there some decent christian rock you can cover, for practice?

Also, isn't the point of christian rock to praise "the lord", otherwise it's "devil music"? You need vocals to do the praising, I think. I'm no expert, though.

Good luck, and you're very brave to try to write your own music and also to post it for public review. I hope that you get where intended before giving up.

[overdriveguitarman]

Is there some decent christian rock you can cover, for practice?

Also, isn't the point of christian rock to praise "the lord", otherwise it's "devil music"? You need vocals to do the praising, I think. I'm no expert, though.

Good luck, and you're very brave to try to write your own music and also to post it for public review. I hope that you get where intended before giving up.

Well, we aren't really doing that stuff at church and everything. Just whatever feels right to us.

I actually made up the intro on accident, I started playing some frets but my hand was doing something weird to make it sound like that, but we thought it was cool so we tweaked it and went with it!

Were never going to give up, honestly, I was expecting more hate and everything, but everyone was really good about it giving us real help! :)

But, we don't know what kind of sound we have, and I think we will have to wait to get a vocalist to really narrow it down!

[Blackjack041277]

A few brief thoughts from me:

- Nice guitar!
- The hat needs to go.
- You guys kind of remind me of the White Stripes.

[Joey-Z]

Well, we aren't really doing that stuff at church and everything. Just whatever feels right to us.

I actually made up the intro on accident, I started playing some frets but my hand was doing something weird to make it sound like that, but we thought it was cool so we tweaked it and went with it!

Were never going to give up, honestly, I was expecting more hate and everything, but everyone was really good about it giving us real help! :)

But, we don't know what kind of sound we have, and I think we will have to wait to get a vocalist to really narrow it down!

Have more range than Nickleback and less range than Phish... (Unless the 'Phish' thing works for you)

As far a sound, It won't matter as long as you don't go too far out of your respected genre.. eg: don't throw a hip-hop song in a metal album.

[TheCoolGuy]

your drummer needs to stay in time. you do fine, though.

[ThunderCurls]

Nailed To The Cross is a really weird name for a Christian Band. It's religious sure, but it just sounds like it would be taken as really offensive to other Christian people.

The cross is a torture device...



I've always been under the impression that most of his satan worshiping is in jest, since, y'know, it's rule #1 in the "how to be metal" handbook.

And really, anyone who is offended over someones religious beliefs really needs to get over themselves.

Almost forgot; hail Satan.

Real Satanists don't worship Satan, they worship themselves.

[instantdeath999]

Nailed To The Cross is a really weird name for a Christian Band. It's religious sure, but it just sounds like it would be taken as really offensive to other Christian people.

The cross is a torture device...

That was my first impression, too. Sounds more like a blasphemous name to me, but maybe that's just my blasphemous mind talking.

[Joey-Z]

That was my first impression, too. Sounds more like a blasphemous name to me, but maybe that's just my blasphemous mind talking.

Blasphemy!
This is madness!!

[ThunderCurls]

I assume it's Jesus who is being nailed. Why don't you do some brainstorming and work out a name around why he was nailed and died for your sins, rather than the actual act of him being nailed and suffering all of that pain.

I just feel that if you want to go anywhere with your band, and you want the Christian community to follow you, this would be for the best.

[overdriveguitarman]

Nailed to the cross symbolizes sacrificing for others.

I thought it was pretty good, I made up quite a few names and this one was the winner in a different forum.

[ffwarrior47]

Nailed To The Cross is a really weird name for a Christian Band. It's religious sure, but it just sounds like it would be taken as really offensive to other Christian people.


It's also a very generic name.

And what is up with all of the "christian" bands now a days? Is it the popular thing to do?

[overdriveguitarman]

It's also a very generic name.

And what is up with all of the "christian" bands now a days? Is it the popular thing to do?

How is it generic?

I searched on the internet and there is no band called nailed to the cross, just some songs.

[ffwarrior47]

How is it generic?

I searched on the internet and there is no band called nailed to the cross, just some songs.

http://www.myspace.com/nailed2thecross

is that you guys?

[overdriveguitarman]

A few brief thoughts from me:

- Nice guitar!
- The hat needs to go.
- You guys kind of remind me of the White Stripes.

Woah! Your right about the White Stripes thing, I definitely notice it now. Especially the part after the pause with the "duh, duh, duh duh, duh duh, duh, duh, duh duh, duh duh" with the bass drum.

[overdriveguitarman]

http://www.myspace.com/nailed2thecross

is that you guys?

Oh, that's weird. No that's not us.

Well crap, too late now.

[Joey-Z]

http://www.myspace.com/nailed2thecross

is that you guys?

What a shame..

It was good until the guy started singing..

[ffwarrior47]

What made you want to be a "christian" band anyhow?

[citric_bullets]

^Jebus did it.

[ffwarrior47]

^Jebus did it.

Oh, i thought the mindframe was:

"BRO, I LOVE JESUS"
"BRO! ME TOO!"
"I PLAY DRUMS!"
"I PLAY GUITAR!"
"LETS FORM A CHRISTIAN ROCK BAND!
"AWESOME IDEA!"

*they both high-five*

[ThunderCurls]

What made you want to be a "christian" band anyhow?

It might just be me, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's because they are Christian.


Again this might just be me.

[overdriveguitarman]

What made you want to be a "christian" band anyhow?

...

The drummer was going for "Christian Mythology"

He really wanted something greek (I'm 50% Greek and lived their for 5 years, I don't know if that's why or what) or something christian.

This was a compromise...

Other band names I made up were, Request an Audience, Human Wings, 5 More Hours, Taking a Chance, and Shining Ash.

I am a strange one. Request an Audience almost won though.

[ThunderCurls]

Shining Ash

This name is far superior to 'Nailed To The Cross'.

[overdriveguitarman]

Oh, i thought the mindframe was:

"BRO, I LOVE JESUS"
"BRO! ME TOO!"
"I PLAY DRUMS!"
"I PLAY GUITAR!"
"LETS FORM A CHRISTIAN ROCK BAND!
"AWESOME IDEA!"

*they both high-five*

lol :D That would be funny but no.


It might just be me, but I'm gonna go out on a limb and say it's because they are Christian.


Again this might just be me.

I would think he already knew that...

[Joey-Z]

...

The drummer was going for "Christian Mythology"

He really wanted something greek (I'm 50% Greek and lived their for 5 years, I don't know if that's why or what) or something christian.

This was a compromise...

Other band names I made up were, Request an Audience, Human Wings, 5 More Hours, Taking a Chance, and Shining Ash.

I am a strange one. Request an Audience almost won though.

Zeus would be a badass band name.

[overdriveguitarman]

This name is far superior to 'Nailed To The Cross'.

Why?

Should I put up a poll with them, here?

[overdriveguitarman]

Zeus would be a badass band name.

Gods yes! Nice!

[ThunderCurls]

Why?

Should I put up a poll with them, here?

It just doesn't sound so obnoxious. A poll would be very interesting, I guarantee you that NTTC will not win though.

[Mex]

I'd just like your drummer to know that wearing that hat will not making anyone take him more seriously :p

[overdriveguitarman]

I'd just like your drummer to know that wearing that hat will not making anyone take him more seriously :p

lol

We found it in his closet before we started and was persistent on wanting to wear it!

Trust me, he does not usually wear hats!

Poll is up, I'll see if the winner can be the new name. Once all the members come in and we decide on it it's over though!

Yes, whatever name wins will have a big impact on what we choose.

Also yes I made some names on the spot...

[Rocket2Russia]

Where is "Other - Suggest a Name?"

[Joey-Z]

Where is "Other - Suggest a Name?"

In that box right above 'Post quick reply'

:p

[Abeotroid]

Why does everyone need a band name that means something? Why can't ya choose something like 'Purple Sphincters' or something.

...Actually, nevermind that...

Edit: honest to goodness can't spell today.

[DeadPhoenix223]

nailed to the cross.

beats my (old) band's name "In The Beginning"

[MrFruitLord]

That was awful.

[Rocket2Russia]

In that box right above 'Post quick reply'

:p

dur hur hur hur You should post in the try not to laugh thread. :rolleyes:


That was awful.

EDIT: Also, this, especially the hat throw. That was painful to watch. So was that ****ty fill at around 1:05.

[Joey-Z]

dur hur hur hur You should post in the try not to laugh thread. :rolleyes:



EDIT: Also, this, especially the hat throw. That was painful to watch. So was that ****ty fill at around 1:05.

Dude,
If all you're gonna do is piss in people cheerios, just stick to HoR.

[bubblegumpop]

I would sit down and really think of a band name, those in the poll just don't seem right.

[Rocket2Russia]

Dude,
If all you're gonna do is piss in people cheerios, just stick to HoR.

Yeah, 'cause everyone on HoR is a heartless ******* elitist who lives to be totally kvlt and exclusive. That stereotype is unfounded bull****. You may think you're being such a great person being all "Yeah! That was great! Good job!", but you're dead wrong. If He were to go out and make an album today, he'd be laughed out of the music world indefinitely. You are the kind of person who puts WIlliam Hungs on American idol. Tell him what he NEEDS to hear, not what he WANTS to hear.

EDIT: That goes for the band name, too. Nailed to the Cross is going to raise eyebrows in a lot of Universal Christian/Born-Again Christian Churches (main venues for Christian acts, at least in my area) and those others are either lolgeneric or weird as hell,a nd he'll regret any of those down the line.

[MrFruitLord]

Dude,
If all you're gonna do is piss in people cheerios, just stick to HoR.

Yeah, because if we voice an opinion you don't like, we're cleary evil people.

[Rocket2Russia]

Yeah, because if we voice an opinion you don't like, we're cleary evil people.

You mean u dont like nickelback and you dont agree with my taste in moosiks?

you stupid, elitist ****!

[Joey-Z]

Yeah, 'cause everyone on HoR is a heartless ******* elitist who lives to be totally kvlt and exclusive. That stereotype is unfounded bull****. You may think you're being such a great person being all "Yeah! That was great! Good job!", but you're dead wrong. If He were to go out and make an album today, he'd be laughed out of the music world indefinitely. You are the kind of person who puts WIlliam Hungs on American idol. Tell him what he NEEDS to hear, not what he WANTS to hear.

EDIT: That goes for the band name, too. Nailed to the Cross is going to raise eyebrows in a lot of Universal Christian/Born-Again Christian Churches (main venues for Christian acts, at least in my area) and those others are either lolgeneric or weird as hell,a nd he'll regret any of those down the line.


Woah woah woah.
Where did all this come from? I'm talking about how you snap when people make a little light humor.

[MrFruitLord]

Seriously, a lot of us aren't quite as bad as we're made out to be. I really don't care which sub forum people belong to.

[Rocket2Russia]

Woah woah woah.
Where did all this come from? I'm talking about how you snap when people make a little light humor.

OK, then I'll talk about how you get your panties in a bunch and dish out random insults when someone thinks a joke you made wasn't funny. Even?

[_weeheehoo_]

nailed to the cross.

beats my (old) band's name "In The Beginning"

Sure beats mine too. "The Sludge ****ers" where the censored part was an F bomb. It was the first suggestion and we just went with it. We didn't feel like thinking of a decent name because we didn't take the band all that seriously.

[Joey-Z]

OK, then I'll talk about how you get your panties in a bunch and dish out random insults when someone thinks a joke you made wasn't funny. Even?

The HoR thing was a guess. I've never bothered to go there.
No hard feelings man, seeing how you're fighting loldrama on 2 fronts right now.

[Rocket2Russia]

The HoR thing was a guess. I've never bothered to go there.

Maybe you should try before you make ignorant little remarks.

[instantdeath999]

Instead of fighting, we should all just chill out to a looped Louie Louie.

[Joey-Z]

Maybe you should try before you make ignorant little remarks.

Yeah. In hindsight, I'm a little surprised I posted that.

[instantdeath999]

If He were to go out and make an album today, he'd be laughed out of the music world indefinitely.



Speaking strictly of musical talent, Hollywood Undead beat this argument into the ground ;)

[CommonCriminal]

I liked the guitar riff. The drummer was all over the place, though.

Oh, yeah, burn that hat. Literally, burn it. Or nail it to a cross. Oh!

[ThunderCurls]

Also when I read the band name, I assumed you were some kind of Death Metal group.

That drummer seriously can't play.

[OrdealByFire]

Also when I read the band name, I assumed you were some kind of Death Metal group.

That drummer seriously can't play.

And the hat makes me laugh.

[a21schizoidman]

That was awful.

i choose this as a band name


Yeah, 'cause everyone on HoR is a heartless ******* elitist who lives to be totally kvlt and exclusive. That stereotype is unfounded bull****. You may think you're being such a great person being all "Yeah! That was great! Good job!", but you're dead wrong. If He were to go out and make an album today, he'd be laughed out of the music world indefinitely. You are the kind of person who puts WIlliam Hungs on American idol. Tell him what he NEEDS to hear, not what he WANTS to hear.

EDIT: That goes for the band name, too. Nailed to the Cross is going to raise eyebrows in a lot of Universal Christian/Born-Again Christian Churches (main venues for Christian acts, at least in my area) and those others are either lolgeneric or weird as hell,a nd he'll regret any of those down the line.

yeah, Nailed to the Cross sounds more sacrilegious to me


Maybe you should try before you make ignorant little remarks.

yeah, i hate racists

[overdriveguitarman]

I strongly urge you guys to make band name suggestions, just please don't fight over the internet, it's stupid.

Also, I'll take criticism but please try to keep it at a "trying to help" level not a "I'm going to break them"

lol at post above that says "That was Awful" should be our band name :p

[OrdealByFire]

I have one but I don't want to share because it's too clever >_>

I have one. OrdealByFlames (That's definitely not the one.)

[bubblegumpop]

If you're stuck try going for something your state is known for, It helped me create a name or 2, 1 of which is my band's name :)

[back_blows]

"overdriveguitarman and the handsome three"

[Der_Lex]

'Zeus the Divine Walrus'

[citric_bullets]

"Der Lex" would be a good band name.

[ryan12147]

The drumming needs some work. Scrap the jam at the end, or have some better timing with it. He also needs work on timing, wicked fills don't make a drummer good, it's keeping time that makes a drummer good. That opening guitar riff also seems kinda boring, so add some distortion to it. Other than that, pretty decent first try.

[overdriveguitarman]

The drumming needs some work. Scrap the jam at the end, or have some better timing with it. He also needs work on timing, wicked fills don't make a drummer good, it's keeping time that makes a drummer good. That opening guitar riff also seems kinda boring, so add some distortion to it. Other than that, pretty decent first try.

Thanks, I actually already modified it a little so that it is actually two different things that are essentially the same and being played one after another for the time, and I cut it off earlier and change it to something else (it's a secret!)

I'll let him know about this drumming stuff, and at the end I am going to actually just go through like a pentatonic scale a little fast and we'll have a metronome practicing it and everything.

at the end I was thinking of doing the first riff but only once and just extending it to a close!


Does anyone have suggestions for how to find a bassist and singer?!

The principal said we can't hang them up with no reason....

[Wiiman95]

I assume you got the name "Request an Audience" from the Rise Against song Audience of One?

[back_blows]

Does anyone have suggestions for how to find a bassist and singer?!

The principal said we can't hang them up with no reason....

Do you have a music department at your school?

[ryan12147]

Does anyone have suggestions for how to find a bassist and singer?!

The principal said we can't hang them up with no reason....

Do NOT find a random bassist and singer. Find friends that are willing to do it first. A band with bad chemistry never lasts.

[Der_Lex]

"Der Lex" would be a good band name.

But it would only be allowed for a good progressive rock and metal band. Possibly only for a Transatlantic-style supergroup.

[a21schizoidman]

But it would only be allowed for a good progressive rock and metal band. Possibly only for a Transatlantic-style supergroup.

Gazpacho + Marillion + Epica + Porcupine Tree?

[overdriveguitarman]

Do you have a music department at your school?

We have band.

But that's just like "brass" and "woodwind" stuff.

[Der_Lex]

Gazpacho + Marillion + Epica + Porcupine Tree?

That would be the weirdest combination ever.

Add in Arjen Lucassen as a composer, though, and it just might work.

/end threadjack

[a21schizoidman]

That would be the weirdest combination ever.

Add in Arjen Lucassen as a composer, though, and it just might work.

/end threadjack

i like it!

(and as if Transatlantic wasn't weird)

[ryan12147]

That would be the weirdest combination ever.

Add in Arjen Lucassen as a composer, though, and it just might work.

/end threadjack

-- = +

In case you don't know what that means, two negatives equal a positive. You said /end which means you are ending your end, therefore are just starting a threadjack now. I'm on to you Lex.

[a21schizoidman]

-- = +

In case you don't know what that means, two negatives equal a positive. You said /end which means you are ending your end, therefore are just starting a threadjack now. I'm on to you Lex.

you're not seriously gonna try to get into a debate on grammar with him, are you?

if so, i've got 10 bucks on Lex

[Der_Lex]

-- = +

In case you don't know what that means, two negatives equal a positive. You said /end which means you are ending your end, therefore are just starting a threadjack now. I'm on to you Lex.

Heh, I was wondering if anyone would notice.

It's like keeping your fingers crossed... that way if I start threadjacking again despite myself, I can always say 'no, I never actually ended it, I said I was just starting. Read carefully! Wheels within wheels within wheels... :D

And Schiz, despite Transatlantic being a bit odd, the four bands that it consists of at least have some similarity in sound. The same can be said about Marillion+Gazpacho+Porcupine Tree or Epica+newer Porcupine Tree, but all four together would be weird. Yet interesting.

[overdriveguitarman]

Should I ask him for a reason why he won't let us put them up or any suggestions at all would be helpful actually...

[ryan12147]

you're not seriously gonna try to get into a debate on grammar with him, are you?

if so, i've got 10 bucks on Lex
Just a bland joke.

Heh, I was wondering if anyone would notice.

It's like keeping your fingers crossed... that way if I start threadjacking again despite myself, I can always say 'no, I never actually ended it, I said I was just starting. Read carefully! Wheels within wheels within wheels... :D
I knew it! You're supposed to use your mod powers for good, not evil! Am I to believe you are actually... Lex Luthor!?!?!?! :eek:

That was a normal post, not a mod power... This is a mod power. And, technically speaking, abuse of it. I will now cheerfully fondly my Kryptonite ring. - Der_Lex

[Der_Lex]

Should I ask him for a reason why he won't let us put them up or any suggestions at all would be helpful actually...

In my experience, questioning high school principals about the reason behind their decisions isn't that productive. Many of them have too much of an authority trip going on and don't like kids questioning them. Yours might be different, though.

My advice would be word of mouth... spread the word that you're looking for a bassist and a drummer to friends and other people you know. That's usually a good way to get in touch with people. You could also try and put up notices in practice spaces around your city (if their are any), but make sure to add the maximum age of the people you're looking for.

[a21schizoidman]

Heh, I was wondering if anyone would notice.

It's like keeping your fingers crossed... that way if I start threadjacking again despite myself, I can always say 'no, I never actually ended it, I said I was just starting. Read carefully! Wheels within wheels within wheels... :D

And Schiz, despite Transatlantic being a bit odd, the four bands that it consists of at least have some similarity in sound. The same can be said about Marillion+Gazpacho+Porcupine Tree or Epica+newer Porcupine Tree, but all four together would be weird. Yet interesting.

that's why i threw in Epica, i figured it was like how Dream Theater mixed in with Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, and Marillion

[Der_Lex]

that's why i threw in Epica, i figured it was like how Dream Theater mixed in with Flower Kings, Spock's Beard, and Marillion

The last couple of DT albums notwithstanding, I still consider Portnoy more of a prog drummer than a metal drummer (of course he's both, but in terms of which side is more prevalent). His style blends in more easily in a prog rock band than any member of Epica would, I think, other than maybe Simone if she stays away from the opera vocals (which would be an utter waste). Now switch out Epica with Opeth, and I can actually see it working (that and I think the voices of Jan Hendrik Ohme and Mikael Åkerfeldt would go really, really well together).

[a21schizoidman]

The last couple of DT albums notwithstanding, I still consider Portnoy more of a prog drummer than a metal drummer (of course he's both, but in terms of which side is more prevalent). His style blends in more easily in a prog rock band than any member of Epica would, I think, other than maybe Simone if she stays away from the opera vocals (which would be an utter waste). Now switch out Epica with Opeth, and I can actually see it working (that and I think the voices of Jan Hendrik Ohme and Mikael Åkerfeldt would go really, really well together).

i like that even better, so, Opeth + Gazpacho + Marillion + PT = Der_lex

[ryan12147]

Your edit made me laugh. :)

[Der_Lex]

i like that even better, so, Opeth + Gazpacho + Marillion + PT = Der_lex

I'm tempted to sig that.


Your edit made me laugh. :)

Then my goal has been achieved. :)

[overdriveguitarman]

In my experience, questioning high school principals about the reason behind their decisions isn't that productive. Many of them have too much of an authority trip going on and don't like kids questioning them. Yours might be different, though.

My advice would be word of mouth... spread the word that you're looking for a bassist and a drummer to friends and other people you know. That's usually a good way to get in touch with people. You could also try and put up notices in practice spaces around your city (if their are any), but make sure to add the maximum age of the people you're looking for.

Good idea, thanks! :)

[a21schizoidman]

I'm tempted to sig that.


(tempts you with stroopwaffles and European keyboards)

[Mega-Tallica]

You seem to like harmonics :D

[ThrobingCane]

You guys need to be tighter with each other, at times it seemed a little chaotic. but thats how you learn.... Id hate if my first bands stuff was released.

[back_blows]

We have band.

But that's just like "brass" and "woodwind" stuff.

Well, it's possible that some of those people have experience playing bass or singing. Otherwise, you could consider going to your local community centre, music stores, heck even your church.

[overdriveguitarman]

Well, it's possible that some of those people have experience playing bass or singing. Otherwise, you could consider going to your local community centre, music stores, heck even your church.

Those people all seem either too young or too old! (music store and church)

Der_lex'es idea is great though, because today I told a few people they wouldn't let us hang up these flyers, and one of my friends said this guy I know plays bass!

Tomorrow I'm going to talk to him about it.

[Ultimatum]

That song was pretty awful and boring. The drummer's overplaying and constant falling out of time didn't help it either. There were no real dynamics to the song, no hooks, nothing really to grab my attention.

The name's pretty atrocious as well.

[Der_Lex]

That song was pretty awful and boring. The drummer's overplaying and constant falling out of time didn't help it either. There were no real dynamics to the song, no hooks, nothing really to grab my attention.

The name's pretty atrocious as well.

Ahem.



Also, I'll take criticism but please try to keep it at a "trying to help" level not a "I'm going to break them"


Negative criticism is ridiculously easy. Anyone with half a brain and the ability to type can bash something online. Criticism in a thread like this only attains some worth if it's actually constructive. Why not offer suggestions on how to improve what you didn't like about the song and band (and band name) instead? Assuming that you want to help the OP get better instead of just making him feel bad about his hobby, of course.

[Ultimatum]

Yeah, I was abrasive, my bad.

Anywho, I still stand by the criticism that the song really, desperately needs dynamics. It feels its on a plateau throughout the entire duration, and that drummer isn't really on the same level and is way off in fairyland doing his own thing that doesn't really fit. He's also very stiff, have him loosen his grip, I can feel and hear it and it's not very pleasant. Tell him to focus on laying down the rhythm, that's his job. He can worry about flashy fills when the song calls for it, and it never really called for it.

If you're going to go with the whole one-dimensional thing, then you really have to be at the extreme ends of the spectrum. It's sort of in the middle. This is really a difficult concept to grasp, especially for fledgling musicians, so don't worry about it so much.

[Mega-Tallica]

Read my comment, I'm MysticGuitar77.

Really what I feel it comes down to, is that both of you still need some practice at your instrument. The drummer needs to really work on timing and should try to contain himself from crazy out-of-timing and awkward fills. For you as a guitar player, you also need some more practice with cleaning it up a bit. It sounds like you still need to work on building finger strength. As long as you keep at it, finger strength will come in time.

And I also suggest you guys click on a metronome when you jam next time ;)

[JohnTheDrummer]

Pleeeeeeeease change your name. Nailed To The Cross does not match with the style you guys seem to be going for. I hear "Nailed To The Cross" and think of blast beats and and speed picking, not indie rock.

But all I gotta say is practice practice practice.

[Ultimatum]

I thought really bad Metalcore when I heard the name.

[Hungryfreak]

I prefer Nailed To The Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVvpxUjTLg).

[overdriveguitarman]

Pleeeeeeeease change your name. Nailed To The Cross does not match with the style you guys seem to be going for. I hear "Nailed To The Cross" and think of blast beats and and speed picking, not indie rock.

But all I gotta say is practice practice practice.

What name do you think we should do?

Personally, I like Nailed to the Cross, it has a message behind it, and we like that it is christian-y, and we personally think it sounds cool. (almost forgot, nailed to the cross symbolizes sacrificing for others, showing love for everyone)

The way you imagine the style of the name is opinionative, but if you have a better name to suggest go ahead!

[overdriveguitarman]

I prefer Nailed To The Cross (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVvpxUjTLg).

That's a link to Destruction...

I already know there are some songs called Nailed to the Cross, one of them being that, another one by Whiplash, I really did research it!

[Gowienczyk]

If the drummer had some idea of where he was going with the rhythm then maybe I could hear you a lot better! Seriously, the guitar sections were pretty alright except for maybe some of the intro. But I guess it was just an improv to get ideas flowing, right?

[overdriveguitarman]

If the drummer had some idea of where he was going with the rhythm then maybe I could hear you a lot better! Seriously, the guitar sections were pretty alright except for maybe some of the intro. But I guess it was just an improv to get ideas flowing, right?

Thanks! DEFINITELY going to bring a metronome next time! We'll work off that and hopefully improve the song alot! :)

[a21schizoidman]

Pleeeeeeeease change your name. Nailed To The Cross does not match with the style you guys seem to be going for. I hear "Nailed To The Cross" and think of blast beats and and speed picking, not indie rock.

But all I gotta say is practice practice practice.

i certainly think it's some anti-christian metalcore when i hear it

[OrdealByFire]

Beneath the Covers

best band name ever.

[overdriveguitarman]

i certainly think it's some anti-christian metalcore when i hear it

Nailed to the Cross....

I don't really see it guys.

Nailed to the Cross. Nailed.

I don't know, I see the hardcore or metal vibe to it, but I don't see the anti-christian part.

[Gowienczyk]

Thanks! DEFINITELY going to bring a metronome next time! We'll work off that and hopefully improve the song alot! :)

It's mostly the type of guitar improv your pulling off there. I'm a sucker for indie & alternative composition. :D

[Hungryfreak]

That's a link to Destruction...

Is it? I was wondering about that...

[a21schizoidman]

anti-Christian because it's more against the message of christianity, rather than for it, it's sacrilegious, think about it, you're saying you are or are better than Jesus

[overdriveguitarman]

It's mostly the type of guitar improv your pulling off there. I'm a sucker for indie & alternative composition. :D

That is really nice, honestly, these positive comments really affect me. Thank you very much! :)

I'm going to go think of some new riffs! Who knows, maybe a new song will be thought up by saturday?! :D

[overdriveguitarman]

anti-Christian because it's more against the message of christianity, rather than for it, it's sacrilegious, think about it, you're saying you are or are better than Jesus

hmmm.....

Nailed to the Cross...

Oh yeah, now I see where your going. Hmm.... Maybe we could do a common thing of explaining the message of the name (i.e. in all the comments of our videos, at our concerts (if we have them), etc.) so they don't get confused.

[Gowienczyk]

That is really nice, honestly, these positive comments really affect me. Thank you very much! :)

I'm going to go think of some new riffs! Who knows, maybe a new song will be thought up by saturday?! :D

Always interesting to see more youtube musicians, reminds me to double check Prophecy Within's page.

[JukeBoxHero]

It wasn't too bad, but timing and transitioning are big things you need to work on. I like some of the stuff you and the drummer were doing but there was no connection in most of the stuff you guys played. The timing generally stink, but that transition and some of the indulgence in fills led to that. The drummer often choose tasteful stuff to play, but the fill near the one minute mark needs to either go or he needs to modify it to work it into the context of the song. The one thing that jumped out the most was the transitions. Some cool playing going on but the transitions were nonexistent and make the "song" difficult to listen to. I would work on those two things the most while recruiting a bassist and a singer for your guys' band.

That post ringed out pretty negatively, but eh, I think there's potential for a good song(s) in that video, and as you guys improve as a band you probably make even better material. Just need to work on timing and transition.

[ThunderCurls]

hmmm.....

Nailed to the Cross...

Oh yeah, now I see where your going. Hmm.... Maybe we could do a common thing of explaining the message of the name (i.e. in all the comments of our videos, at our concerts (if we have them), etc.) so they don't get confused.

Or you could just not use the name. It is a bad idea.

lol concerts....I think you should probably learn how to play your instruments more effectively and efficiently first. You both need tutors, especially the drummer.

[OrdealByFire]

yeahhh you're getting way ahead of yourself there thinking about concerts and stuff, and it really is a terrible band name.

I agree with ThunderCurls for once.

[JohnTheDrummer]

I don't mean to be to brutal with you guys, but I'm just saying that if I were to see the name "Nailed To The Cross" on a tour, I'd definitely be interested (being a metalhead), then be let down because the message a good amount of people will get is that you guys are Satanic. I mean, look at some song titles for Deicide or Vital Remains...

Once Upon The Cross
Slave To The Cross (for the hardcore Christian band)
The Truth Above
Crucified For The Innocence
I Am God
Hammer Down The Nails
etc etc

In one way or another people could at those titles, unaware of the band, and think they could be Pro-Christian songs, but they aren't, and for me, coming from this style of music makes me think that a band named "Nailed To The Cross" is quite evil.

[Ultimatum]

Anyone has the potential to make good music it just requires a few things:

1) Desire to break or reshape the mold
2) Open-mindedness towards all kinds of music
3) A wide range of influences (the wider, the better)
4) A somewhat focused approach
5) Some proficiency on your respective instrument(s)
6) Passion

Good songwriting comes naturally if you have all 6 of those bases covered.

[ThunderCurls]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ved9tQU-VoE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WMVvpxUjTLg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a2-S4-mQS2g

[overdriveguitarman]

Or you could just not use the name. It is a bad idea.

lol concerts....I think you should probably learn how to play your instruments more effectively and efficiently first. You both need tutors, especially the drummer.

I'm talking years with the concert thing...

[overdriveguitarman]

Anyone has the potential to make good music it just requires a few things:

1) Desire to break or reshape the mold - yes, still working on it though
2) Open-mindedness towards all kinds of music - definitely, all my friends think my favorite music is theirs too. "Yo Trent! Listen to this song!" "Nice man" is a common thing.
3) A wide range of influences (the wider, the better) - Um... got to work on that one.
4) A somewhat focused approach - working on it
5) Some proficiency on your respective instrument(s) - I'm still taking lessons, I'll tell the drummer to maybe think about it though.
6) Passion - Yes plz

Good songwriting comes naturally if you have all 6 of those bases covered.

Thanks

[ThunderCurls]

I'm talking years with the concert thing...

Just don't even put a time frame on it. Forget about concerts. Focusing on learning to play..

[bubblegumpop]

1 thing that I do admire is that you played standing up the whole time. I've been playing bass for like 6 years and I still can't freakin' stand up and play for long periods of time...

[overdriveguitarman]

1 thing that I do admire is that you played standing up the whole time. I've been playing bass for like 6 years and I still can't freakin' stand up and play for long periods of time...

Yeah, the hard part was mostly because I always practice while sitting, so it was a weird transition but I did okay! :)

[back_blows]

Well overdriveguitarman, did you meet with the potential bass player?

[ThrobingCane]

Well overdriveguitarman, did you meet with the potential bass player?

I wonder why (good) bass players are always hard to find, thats what my band is searching for as well.

[overdriveguitarman]

Well overdriveguitarman, did you meet with the potential bass player?

Okay, so I tried talking to the person, but he ignored me because we aren't really like freinds, we just know each other. Now it is break and I don't know where they live so I have no idea how to find him again.

It's really annoying not being able to find anyone, yet basically EVERYONE plays guitar, it's annoying and it reminds me how me playing guitar isn't special at all, and how people only want to do whats "cool" (bass isn't "cool" to them...).

Anyway, maybe I should hang up flyers around...or learn to play bass...

[back_blows]

Okay, so I tried talking to the person, but he ignored me because we aren't really like freinds, we just know each other. Now it is break and I don't know where they live so I have no idea how to find him again.

It's really annoying not being able to find anyone, yet basically EVERYONE plays guitar, it's annoying and it reminds me how me playing guitar isn't special at all, and how people only want to do whats "cool" (bass isn't "cool" to them...).

Anyway, maybe I should hang up flyers around...or learn to play bass...

You could go sans bass, like the White Stripes. Although, you'll need a hot drummer for that :)

[bubblegumpop]

Lol if you lived near me I would fill in some bass, with the way I play you wouldn't need a lead :)


It is hard to find a good bass player, that's why I was like...why not try it out...6 years later and I love it, though I still play some guitar.

[OrdealByFire]

Playing guitar/bass anything heavy like that on your back for a long period of time is bterrible for your back.

Go ask Tom DeLonge.

[Ziiggy Stardust]

The drummer is brutal

[overdriveguitarman]

You could go sans bass, like the White Stripes. Although, you'll need a hot drummer for that :)

We would have to be awesome to do that.

[Mega-Tallica]

Lol if you lived near me I would fill in some bass, with the way I play you wouldn't need a lead :)


It is hard to find a good bass player, that's why I was like...why not try it out...6 years later and I love it, though I still play some guitar.

I'm quite the opposite. I started out playing bass 8 years ago, after about 2 years of playing I decided to play guitar instead. I still play bass from time to time, but guitar is my main priority.

[Joey-Z]

I'm glad my band lucked out with the bassist, who insists he's not realy with the band, but always wants to know when our next practice is. :D

[Soratar]

Pretty good. You could work on getting your timing down; some of those crash hits seemed awkward. Great fills, and nice hat.

[overdriveguitarman]

Pretty good. You could work on getting your timing down; some of those crash hits seemed awkward. Great fills, and nice hat.

Thanks man! Yeah, I'm going to bring my metronome next time and we'll make sure we stay on time!

I'll let the drummer know! He'll be really happy to know someone liked his fills! (and his hat :p)

[Mega-Tallica]

Thanks man! Yeah, I'm going to bring my metronome next time and we'll make sure we stay on time!

I'll let the drummer know! He'll be really happy to know someone liked his fills! (and his hat :p)

Your drummer really needs to work on timing. Really, the most basic job of a drummer is to keep the rest of the band on time. If the drummer can't stay on time, the rest of the band isn't going to either. A metronome is a good idea for your next jam session.

[overdriveguitarman]

lol Nailed to the Cross is tied for first!

[Gowienczyk]

Zeus is really the best option.

[Soratar]

Zeus is really the best option.

I agree with Gowie here. IMO I think that one-name (or two name) bands usually end up more popular. It's eaiser to remember. Plus Zeus sounds cool.

[Explosion2]

I think request an audience is the best. I don't know, I just like it.

[Soratar]

They sound more like a metal band. Request an Audience (to me) sounds like a name for a pop-punk band.

[overdriveguitarman]

I like punk!

[Gowienczyk]

I agree with Gowie here. IMO I think that one-name (or two name) bands usually end up more popular. It's eaiser to remember. Plus Zeus sounds cool.

Zeus sounds amazing! and manly, too!

[Soratar]

I like punk!

But is your band gonna be more along the lines of metal or punk? If punk, I'd go with Request an Audience. If metal, go with Zeus.

For some reason, when ever I see Request an Audience, I think immeadiatly of Rise Against. :confused: Maybe it's the R and the A?

[overdriveguitarman]

But is your band gonna be more along the lines of metal or punk? If punk, I'd go with Request an Audience. If metal, go with Zeus.

For some reason, when ever I see Request an Audience, I think immeadiatly of Rise Against. :confused: Maybe it's the R and the A?

Really?

Well probably because of the RA and their song Audience of One

But I DO have proof I made up the name before they even made their new album!

If you want I can link you to this old thread where the name was a suggestion of mine before the album!

[overdriveguitarman]

I'm not sure what sound we are going for yet.

I would rather not be indie rock but people say we sound like it. :(

[back_blows]

overdriveguitarman, can you do pig squeels?

[hifive121]

I think the best name would be request an audience, and I DO NOT like nailed to the cross because I am catholic.

Still, I liked the song:D

[Joey-Z]

overdriveguitarman, can you do pig squeels?

I wouldn't even attempt it.

Thats something that can ruin a band it it's not perfect.
Like when I saw Suicide Silence in concert last summer. His squeels were annoying..

[Tego1in]

Steam Punk.
Which probably is already taken.
Nailed to the Cross sounds too "shock-rock"

[Joey-Z]

Steam Punk.
Which probably is already taken.
Nailed to the Cross sounds too "shock-rock"

Or 'The Nautilus'

Then Overdrive can play this guitar.

http://blog.makezine.com/20kall1.jpg

[overdriveguitarman]

overdriveguitarman, can you do pig squeels?

Quite the question...

Um.... no! lol


I think the best name would be request an audience, and I DO NOT like nailed to the cross because I am catholic.

Still, I liked the song:D

Thanks! I just finished making up a new song on guitar! (that's what I've been working on the past few days) and I like it better than our previous one!

I'm hoping tomorrow I can go to Jonathon's house and we can record another song! I'm going to use one of the names above as the song title! It's going to be a surprise!

I like Request an Audience too, okay, post below if you want our name to be Request an Audience or Nailed to the Cross (or something else)

[fuselage3210]

Request an Audience.

and what did fuselage321 do to get banned?

[overdriveguitarman]

It says a reason when your banned when you try to go to the forums

Also, we are seriously thinking of changing the name to Request an Audience, I'm actually heavily leaning toward it!

[fuselage3210]

no, im not fuselage321. I am his bro. I was wondering what my bro did to get banned on here.

[ffwarrior47]

no, im not fuselage321. I am his bro. I was wondering what my bro did to get banned on here.

/facepalm

[bmaninc]

This is the thread with the most ignored replies for me, I think. Makes it (happily) unreadable.

[overdriveguitarman]

This is the thread with the most ignored replies for me, I think. Makes it (happily) unreadable.

What do you mean?

[Ultimatum]

Zeus sounds amazing! and manly, too!

And is likely already taken.


no, im not fuselage321. I am his bro. I was wondering what my bro did to get banned on here.

I call shenanigans.

[Cpt. Overkill]

no, im not fuselage321. I am his bro. I was wondering what my bro did to get banned on here.

Brotastrophe!

[Joey-Z]

I like Request an Audience.

It isn't a name that would make me change the radio station.

[overdriveguitarman]

I like Request an Audience.

It isn't a name that would make me change the radio station.

Cool because we changed it!

Look out for a new song tomorrow! By Request an Audience!

[ThunderCurls]

Cool because we changed it!

Look out for a new song tomorrow! By Request an Audience!

hopefully these guys can play

[overdriveguitarman]

hopefully these guys can play

lol okay I think that was an insult but it was funny