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bmaninc
12-08-2009, 06:27 PM
The D-backs, Tigers and Yankees agreed in principle Tuesday on a deal that would send Tigers center fielder Curtis Granderson to New York in the first major deal of this year's Winter Meetings, according to sources.


The D-backs would receive right-handers Edwin Jackson and Ian Kennedy from the Tigers and Yankees, respectively, while the Tigers would get pitchers Max Scherzer and Daniel Schlereth from Arizona and outfielder Austin Jackson and left-hander Phil Coke from New York.

A source said that the Yankees were piqued by the idea of installing the left-handed-hitting Granderson into center field at Yankee Stadium, where his power bat could play nicely with the short porch and help reconstruct their lineup for a defense of their World Series title.

Granderson hit .249 with 30 home runs, 71 RBIs and 20 stolen bases in 160 games for the Tigers in 2009. After earning an affordable $3.5 million this year, he is due for a sizable pay jump on a back-loaded contract, as he is scheduled to receive $5.5 million next season, $8.25 million in 2011 and $10 million in 2012.

Granderson is also largely neutralized by left-handed pitching. Last season, Granderson hit all but two of his home runs off right-handers, batting just .183 in 180 at-bats against southpaws.

Interest in Granderson was reported as early as the General Managers Meetings in November, and may have grown more attractive as the offseason continued.

The D-backs entered the Winter Meetings searching for a starter to slot behind Brandon Webb, Dan Haren and Scherzer in the rotation and about $10 million to spend. Their plan seemed to call for them to spend the bulk of that money either on a free-agent pitcher or taking part of a large pitcher's contract off another team's hands via trade.

If the deal is indeed structured as believed, it would allow the D-backs to spend their remaining dollars on shoring up the bullpen and bolstering their offense, which has underperformed the past few seasons.

Kennedy missed much of last season after having surgery to repair an aneurysm under his right armpit on May 12. He pitched in four Minor League games for Triple-A Scranton/Wilkes-Barre last year and tossed a scoreless inning in his one appearance for the Yankees.


BLOCKBUSTER BREAKDOWN
Team Acquires
D-backs
RHP Edwin Jackson (from DET)
RHP Ian Kennedy (from NYY)
Tigers
RHP Max Scherzer (from ARI)
OF Austin Jackson (from NYY)
LHP Phil Coke (from NYY)
LHP Daniel Schlereth (from ARI)
Yankees
OF Curtis Granderson (from DET)

The right-hander pitched well in the Arizona Fall League and the D-backs appear to have favorable reports on him.

Jackson, 26, made $2.2 million last year and will be eligible for salary arbitration this winter for the second time, which could push his salary into the $5 million range. Jackson cannot be eligible for free agency until after the 2011 season.

Jackson was 13-9 with a 3.62 ERA in 33 starts last season for the Tigers. A former GM described Jackson's makeup as "off the charts."

Yankees vice president of baseball operations Mark Newman said last week that the club was enthused to see the 22-year-old Jackson succeed at Triple-A, batting .300 in 132 games, and many in the pipeline expect that Jackson will eventually be a dependable Major League player.

"He's a lot like [Robinson] Cano was as a Minor League player -- good hitter, uses the field," Newman said. "He's a guy who's going to get stronger as he matures into his body physically. We think he's going to hit some home runs. He's a pretty good hitter now and the power will emerge over time."

Jackson would have come into camp competing for the center field job but easily could have started the year at Triple-A. The Yankees have never declared Jackson untouchable, but rather have been waiting for the right offer -- one that now appears to have presented itself.

Scherzer, 25, was the D-backs' first-round selection (No. 11 overall), out of the University of Missouri, in the 2006 First-Year Player Draft. He broke into the Majors in 2008 and was a regular in Arizona's rotation last season. The right-hander went 9-11 with a 4.12 ERA, striking out 174 in 170 1/3 innings.

Schlereth, a 23-year-old left-hander, was also a first-rounder, going 26th overall in the 2008 Draft. He joined the D-backs during last season and appeared in 21 games, all in relief. He struck out 22 batters in 18 1/3 innings, but he walked 15 and had an ERA of 5.89.

Kennedy, taken 10 picks after Scherzer in the 2006 Draft, burst upon the Yankees scene in late 2007, climbing from Class A through the Minors in a single season and making three impressive starts. That gave the Yankees belief that he could be a part of their starting rotation in 2008, but he went 0-4 with an 8.17 ERA in nine starts and one relief appearance.

Coke, 27, evolved into a reliable left-hander in the Yankees bullpen last season and pitched well in five of six postseason appearances.

Discuss. Source = http://mlb.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20091208&content_id=7774288&vkey=news_mlb&fext=.jsp&c_id=mlb

Jglaubman
12-08-2009, 06:29 PM
Really really REALLY don't like this deal as a Yankee fan.

bmaninc
12-08-2009, 06:30 PM
I love it. We'll take Holliday, you take Granderson. :D

ultimatespidey81
12-08-2009, 06:34 PM
had been waiting for the confirmation on this. nice semi-block buster. does this take the yanks outta the halladay sweepstakes? jackson was probably on the jays short list.

bmaninc
12-08-2009, 06:35 PM
I sure hope so, spidey.

This is truly a great day for the Red Sox.

tridentgum0
12-08-2009, 06:37 PM
Halladay to the Indians, pl0x, seeing as how they're my favorite MLB team.

What you meant to say.

Jglaubman
12-08-2009, 06:38 PM
Halladay might win 30 freaking games on the Phillies in the National League.

ultimatespidey81
12-08-2009, 06:40 PM
is the philles system that stacked that they can ship off prospects first to the indians in the cliff lee deal and also try to make a deal for halladay? i would have to check but offhand i dont think they have what it takes.

Mega-Tallica
12-08-2009, 07:07 PM
Looks like the Yankees are getting the worst of this deal. Yay! :D

ultimatespidey81
12-08-2009, 07:41 PM
Looks like the Yankees are getting the worst of this deal. Yay! :D

i dont think so at all. granderson is a dynamic player and will be cheaper than damon. he is outstanding defensively and he will shine in one of the bigger center fields in the majors. so he cant hit lefties. big freakin deal lol.

and who did they give up in the trade? a "supposed" potential ace in kennedy(he is closer to a #4 starter), a run of the mill reliever in coke, and an unproven OF in jackson. they gave up nobody.

goodbyetonight
12-08-2009, 09:26 PM
Really really REALLY don't like this deal as a Yankee fan.

AGREED. What an awful, idiotic trade. I'm disgusted.

Banky71
12-09-2009, 01:17 AM
Granderson is taylor made to play at Yankee stadium.

killer_roach
12-09-2009, 01:25 AM
Granderson is taylor made to play at Yankee stadium.

Except Yankee Stadium is a pretty small outfield... definitely cuts down on his ability to hit triples and inside the park home runs...

Definitely looks like a firesale from the Tigers' side of things, though. Not surprising, considering the perils of trying to generate revenue playing in the third world country of Detroit...

Cubecubed
12-09-2009, 01:30 AM
Wow. lets get rid of our best player. good move,tigers.

Cubecubed
12-09-2009, 01:34 AM
Yankees are stupid to go through with it. As if Damon wasn't good enough.

Granderson is better than Johnny Damon. Trust me.

Mega-Tallica
12-09-2009, 09:03 AM
Granderson is better than Johnny Damon. Trust me.

He is, but not by that much.

Bonez
12-09-2009, 09:43 AM
WTF?! How do the Yankees think this is a good trade?! Kennedy can go, but Coke? For Granderson? We already have like 20 outfielders!

bermuddy
12-09-2009, 10:06 AM
Except Yankee Stadium is a pretty small outfield... definitely cuts down on his ability to hit triples and inside the park home runs...
those triples will now be HRs


Granderson is better than Johnny Damon. Trust me.
i agree. he's better now than damon was in his prime.


He is, but not by that much.
you're crazy. granderson is a legit 30/30 guy who can play CF.


WTF?! How do the Yankees think this is a good trade?! Kennedy can go, but Coke? For Granderson? We already have like 20 outfielders!

the outfield defense is now much improved. you can pursue either damon or matsui for LF and put melky at RF. swisher can now DH and play either corner in a pinch.

Mex
12-09-2009, 10:41 AM
Hmmm...Granderson hit .249? .249?

.249??

bermuddy
12-09-2009, 10:47 AM
Hmmm...Granderson hit .249? .249?

.249??

.189 against lefties.

they want him for his defense though. yanks dont need offense, BUT if you hit .249 and you still knock in 30 HRs, youre going to be just fine.

maitee1
12-09-2009, 10:52 AM
Yup and being younger and cheaper than Damon, I think it will be a fine deal. Who knows maybe he will become more selective when swinging the bat now that he has a mad crazy lineup around him.

killer_roach
12-09-2009, 11:42 AM
Hmmm...Granderson hit .249? .249?

.249??

Also one of his worst offensive seasons, though. Keep that in mind. Most years he has been a solid leadoff hitter.

Mex
12-09-2009, 11:48 AM
.189 against lefties.

they want him for his defense though. yanks dont need offense, BUT if you hit .249 and you still knock in 30 HRs, youre going to be just fine.

Would they platoon him though? Or just drop him in the order against Lefties?


Also one of his worst offensive seasons, though. Keep that in mind. Most years he has been a solid leadoff hitter.

Gotcha. That's a crap batting avg for a leadoff hitter. How was his on base percentage?

bermuddy
12-09-2009, 12:01 PM
these are his stats...
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=434158

Mex
12-09-2009, 01:00 PM
these are his stats...
http://mlb.mlb.com/team/player.jsp?player_id=434158

Hmmm, not too shabby. His batting avg seems to jump season to season. We'll see how he does in NYC.

bood-boy
12-09-2009, 01:02 PM
the only thing better about Granderson is his last name.

if there wasnt a Milton Bradley in the league, he'd have the best name in baseball. behind Poo-hole obviously tho too.

bermuddy
12-09-2009, 01:14 PM
actually bood, the best name in baseball belongs to the Cincinnati Reds Pitching Coach.

http://mlb.mlb.com/team/coach_staff_bio.jsp?c_id=cin&coachorstaffid=120649

bood-boy
12-09-2009, 01:24 PM
wow. thats almost as good as Harry Hiscocks.

true story. he lives in Niagara Falls.

just picture how its spelled in the phonebook. he used to have his full first name in there too back when i was in grade school. to say he used to get prank calls often is an understatement and a half.

Cubecubed
12-09-2009, 02:22 PM
People seem to be forgetting that Granderson was an all star last year and he's one of the bst defensive players in the league. the Yankees would lucky to have him,and he's only going to get better.

Mex
12-09-2009, 03:09 PM
An all-star batting .249 ;)

bood-boy
12-09-2009, 03:15 PM
1 for 4 every game aint half bad tho for a 'best defensive player'

Mex
12-09-2009, 03:17 PM
.249


lol

killer_roach
12-09-2009, 03:23 PM
An all-star batting .249 ;)

IIRC, Cal Ripken Jr.'s final All-Star appearance came with him batting only marginally above the Mendoza Line. Same with one of Ken Griffey Jr's.

bood-boy
12-09-2009, 03:30 PM
mex: all star's arent always all stars.

remember last year mike komisarek was on the STARTING lineup? i dont care if its fan voting or not, he was a first team all star at the 2009 all star game. thats an even bigger joke.

Mex
12-09-2009, 04:04 PM
IIRC, Cal Ripken Jr.'s final All-Star appearance came with him batting only marginally above the Mendoza Line. Same with one of Ken Griffey Jr's.


mex: all star's arent always all stars.

remember last year mike komisarek was on the STARTING lineup? i dont care if its fan voting or not, he was a first team all star at the 2009 all star game. thats an even bigger joke.

That's what I'm getting at guys :)

All-Star games are popularity contests. It doesn't really matter I guess.

I'm still just shocked by this guys batting average.

.249....WOOO BOY...ha ha

bood-boy
12-09-2009, 04:10 PM
bit is it really that bad for a defensive specialist?

bmaninc
12-09-2009, 04:12 PM
Sounds like with that average, he was on the Toronto Blue Jays last year. :D

Yankee5423
12-09-2009, 04:18 PM
Granderson may have hit .249 last year, but Kevin Long and being in the Yankees' lineup should help that.

Last year's big trade subject for the Yankees, Nick Swisher, raised his average from .219 in `08 to .249 in `09, not to mention bringing his OBP up nearly 50 points (http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/stats?playerId=5937). Granderson should be fantastic having the short porch in right and hitting in front of Derek Jeter.

killer_roach
12-09-2009, 04:24 PM
Yankee5423: At the very least, he'll walk even more, which, considering his speed, isn't a bad thing at all.

Mex
12-09-2009, 05:01 PM
bit is it really that bad for a defensive specialist?

The way people talk about this guy, I wouldn't call him a defensive specialist. For that, see John MacDonald :D


Sounds like with that average, he was on the Toronto Blue Jays last year. :D

Hey the Jays team batting average was 9th out of 30 teams, that ain't too shabby.

ultimatespidey81
12-09-2009, 07:26 PM
i think that you guys just dont know how good granderson can be. yes he did hit .249 last year but looking closer at the numbers, he hit .183 vs. lefties and .230 at comerica.

is he a .300 hitter? no, he strikes out too much. but a .275-.280 avg is probable. hitting is contagious and last year the tigers sucked at it. in a much more friendly hitters park and with a better lineup behind him he will be much improved.