Official Team Fortress 2 Thread

[ArmsAreLoud]

There have been a few of these before, but they're pretty much buried, so yeah.

Aaaanyways, Team Fortress 2 is a team-based online FPS that's better then what the last FPS you played was (unless it was TF2, obviously). This topic was inspired by the recent update (http://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=3219) to TF2, which appears to be a dual update for the Soldier and Demoman. Based on the content of the comic, it likely also has something to do with the new Announcer sounds.

So, discussion time and other such nonsense.

[Sarge51]

I hope they add in an Engie update in the end, as well. :(

[ArmsAreLoud]

There are certainly plans for each class. I don't think it's happening now, but it will happen eventually since they're apparently doing the two classes who need a revamp the least. Don't get me wrong, I can't wait to see what they will do, but yeah.

[MrFruitLord]

I'm excited for this. Soldier is my best class though, so they had better get this update right!

[ArmsAreLoud]

As I already said, the Soldier is already very good the way it is and changes aren't really necessary. As such, I'm hoping the new weapons make different playstyles viable.

*MAKE A TF2 ALERT*
For example, for the inevitable engie update I'm hoping for a Sentry that builds silently, does more damage, and doesn't cost as much metal, but in exchange teleporters and dispensers are very expensive and the Sentry can't upgrade past Lv. 1. Basically making Offensive Engineer more viable.

[Apples]

As I already said, the Soldier is already very good the way it is and changes aren't really necessary. As such, I'm hoping the new weapons make different playstyles viable.


I think the update to the demo/soldier will go the way of the pyro... tweaks that are not necessarily vertical moves but horizontal. (ie: choices that are slight tweaks on existing weapons, instead of full-blown new ones)

For example, I could see them revising the soldier's shotgun. Maybe to a world-war 2 style Tommy gun that shoots in bursts. Or maybe giving him hand-grenades instead of rockets. (If you do one of the soldier taunts he already juggles hand grenades)

As for the demo man, I always felt he would be the ideal class to bring back caltrops from TFC or some type of cluster bomb. (basically a grenade which splits into a bunch of smaller sub-grenades)

[BallisticJunkfood]

which appears to be a dual update for the Soldier and Demoman.

This just leaves the Engineer, right?

[Reygnier]

I'm a huge fan of TF2. Just love it.

I first played it on the PS3, and instantly fell in love with it. Then I bought it for PC, and my brother bought it for Xbox 360, so I bought it for Xbox too :P.

This Sunday there is a Anime/Game Convention in Puerto Rico (where I'm from) and I'm dressing up as The Scout ;).

Good to see other RB2/TF2 fans out there :D.

[Apples]

This just leaves the Engineer, right?

I'd like to see a new turret style. Maybe a flame thrower turret with shorter range but higher damage and knockback.

[BallisticJunkfood]

I'd like to see a new turret style. Maybe a flame thrower turret with shorter range but higher damage and knockback.

I was thinking the exact same thing. And perhaps a new type of teleporter too, one that goes both ways but takes more metal to build or takes longer to recharge.

[ArmsAreLoud]

I'd like to see a new turret style. Maybe a flame thrower turret with shorter range but higher damage and knockback.

Jeez, it's hard enough to keep a sentry up when it has some capacity to defend itself. Demomen and soldiers would ruin this incredibly quickly.

[SonicRocker15X]

Lucky PC owners and their UPDATES...
Valve, people do still play your games on the 360 y'know. :(

[Inapprope]

Valve have updated the TF2 website. (http://www.teamfortress.com/)
It appears an extra weapon will be given to the class that kills the most of the other class. (Demo will get the weapon if the amount of Soldier kills by Demomen is higher than the amount of Demo kills by Soldiers, and vice versa)
So who are you guys going to be playing as until the update is released?
I'll be playing as the Soldier, as I prefer him to the Demo.

[SonicRocker15X]

Wait... An update that puts a literal competition between soldier and demo... Yet it ISN'T titled Soldier vs. Demoman. :p

[pacifistWITHgun]

it looks like I need to hop on and help out my fellow demo.

oh dear.

[Pwnz0r3d]

On the server i play on, Dispensers repair Sentries through walls

So an engy update would be devastatingly awesome (although i dont think that they will change buildings, they didnt add a replacement for the Spy's knife or sapper)

[ArmsAreLoud]

It would completely defeat the purpose of an Engie update to not release modifications to at least the Sentry. Just changing the shotgun and pistol would be lame for a class made to, y'know, build stuff.

[xfearbefore]

Wow nice to find somewhere with fellow TF2 players.

I will be playing as a soldier for this mostly because Im way better as a soldier than a demo.

[xfearbefore]

so far the Soldiers are winning!!

[Sarge51]

Lucky PC owners and their UPDATES...
Valve, people do still play your games on the 360 y'know. :(

This is why I sold The Orange Box and got TF2 for the PC. It's much more fun on the PC anyway. ...However, L4D has kept updating, so it's still a 360 game for me.


So far the kills are for the most part tied. However, Soldier has about 100K more war kills. It's still anyone's game.

[Apples]

The patch has had some crazy side effects. I just joined a 30 man server with 20+ soldiers and demos. Every choke point a literal death trap of grenade and rock spam.

Good day to be a kritzkrieg medic. Bad one for engineers.

[xfearbefore]

Just contributed 100 kills to the Soldiers!

[jonoo24]

Bought the game, Computer can't handle it.

[ArmsAreLoud]

Mine can't either. How old is your computer? I'm running what basically amounts to a mod that brings the system settings down way low, making it so crappy computers can run it at ~30 fps except in particularly hectic situations.

[MrFruitLord]

It would be nice if Valve told us at least one weapon instead of just the kill count...

[Sarge51]

It would be nice if Valve told us at least one weapon instead of just the kill count...

They are probably going to reveal one of the weapons today. They said they were going to reveal things everyday for the next week and so far there's not an update up, and the only thing left to do is reveal some weapons.


Just contributed 100 kills to the Soldiers!

I only have 15 demo kills. :p

[afterstasis]

i've been thinking about jumping back into TF2. i mostly run soldier or scout, so fingers are crossed for the other soldiers i'm too busy to help out with this.

[Sarge51]

Update, kind of. (http://www.teamfortress.com/war/part2/)

[jonoo24]

Mine can't either. How old is your computer? I'm running what basically amounts to a mod that brings the system settings down way low, making it so crappy computers can run it at ~30 fps except in particularly hectic situations.

We got it in 2007.

[xfearbefore]

So are you guys on the Demomans team or on the Soldiers team??

Im on Soldiers team

Death to Demos!!

[Pwnz0r3d]

Everyone's going to go soldier because its the easier of the two classes to play as.

To be a demo you need to have a quick middle finger reflex, and be a good trap setter.

Solly's just need WASD and M1

[Apples]

I play the demo more than the soldier, but I'm pulling for the soldier to win.

IMHO, the demo is responsible for too many "cheap" kills by blindly spamming choke points, or insta-death traps via pipe bombs. These effects are amplified tremendously in defensive map scenarios where a well-played demo can effectively lock down a control point or cart push.

At least with the soldier you have to have a bit of timing and aim to be effective. And you need direct line of sight meaning you're more vulnerable. Plus, you don't get 12 grenades between reloads. Soldier is arguable easier to play but has a lower ceiling in terms of effectiveness.

[ArmsAreLoud]

@jonoo: I'm not entirely sure, but if you still have the game on your computer it's worth a shot.
1. Take this attachment: 6079
2. Copy-and-paste it into Notepad, Save As and rename it autoexec.cfg (the extension is important, otherwise it's just a useless text file)
3. Put it in the following folder (I have Vista, it may be different with a different OS): Program Files -> Steam -> steamapps -> yourusername -> team fortress 2 -> tf -> cfg

Hopefully that'll help.

@apples: Go Scout. You'll be able to dodge pipes faster then the demo can dish them out, and whittle away his health while you take no damage. Killing him removes his stickies, but if you are having a hard time with that you can just pick them off with the pistol.

[jonoo24]

Steam was messed up, re-downloading now.

[Sarge51]

"Quick middle finger"? I assume you mean to change weapons, but that's true with a lot of classes.

[jonoo24]

55%

[jonoo24]

just played it, and it's still laggy as hell.

[jonoo24]

ohkay, I have it saved as a .cgf, but how do i put it in that folder. I have vista, see the folder, but don't know how to put it in it.

[ArmsAreLoud]

You just got to drag it in. Same way you'd put any other file in a folder.

Oh, and they're rolling out Item Crafting.

[jonoo24]

It's still lagy :/

[ArmsAreLoud]

Did the graphics go down in quality? If they did and the game is still not playable, your specs may be just too low, and that would be quite unfortunate.

[jonoo24]

Not really.

[ArmsAreLoud]

They're still in HD? Hrm... I don't know what's wrong, then. I'll try figuring it out later; for now, I'm going to bed.

[onidragon]

FRIENDS! ROMANS! DEMOMEN! LEND ME YOUR POWERS!

I'm sorry, I had to do that.

[Pwnz0r3d]

Now there is the ability to craft new weapons with your extra unlocks.

Hooray.http://www.teamfortress.com/crafting/

[Apples]

If you are ever up for a break from your "serious" TF2 playtime, I highly recommend trying a map as heavy weapons with melee only. With the right map and the right playstyle, you can get into some downright hilarious situation. Highlights include:

* Teammates cursing you out for "throwing the match." (Quite comical, especially when you're near the top of the team leaderboard)

* Scoring a domination or multiple dominations on the enemy. Enough to make players rage quit or spout the most vulgar language on voice chat.

* A "puncher's chance" on any given swing with a crit. Seen medic-reinforced soldiers felled in one swing.

* Pyros afraid to get "a little too close" to you.

* Trying to punch another heavy and killing a cloaked spy unfortunate enough to get between you.


When people ask about my peculiar playstyle I tell them that I'm trying to earn the dunce cap hat for 1000 kills with fists-only. And given Valve's brazen sense of humor, it's almost believable.

[Sarge51]

They should make that a real achievement hat for getting 1,000 fist-only kills. :)

[ArmsAreLoud]

You guys know what's really fun? Taunt kills only. Snoipah is OP, though.

[Sarge51]

By the way, the updates are up. Demoman has two items. Now it's suspected that the Soldier is definitely getting a Bugle and that either the Engie is getting an update with the pickaxe or the pickaxe is the special weapon.

[Apples]

Sword and shield strikes me as cheesy and out of flavor for the class.

What do either of those have to do with demolitions?

Wasted opportunity for tripmines/clusterbombs/hand grenades, and so on.

[Inapprope]

Sword and shield strikes me as cheesy and out of flavor for the class.

What do either of those have to do with demolitions?

Wasted opportunity for tripmines/clusterbombs/hand grenades, and so on.

I think it has more to do with the Demo's Scottish background.
The weapon replacing the pipe bomb gun hasn't been revealed yet, so there is still a chance for tripmines/clusterbombs/grenades etc.

[Apples]

It's still dumb. What does a sword and shield have to do with the area damage, explosives, and demolitions theme?

This move along with Jarate from the last patch says "we believe our customers will accept whatever half-baked ideas we come up with"

[Sarge51]

Apples obviously doesn't like his games to be comical.

[xfearbefore]

I don't think the sword fits well with the Demo

[Pwnz0r3d]

These new weapons have gone seriously downhill starting with the Spy vs Sniper update.

Bow and Arrow, and piss for a Sniper? Really?

A sniping Revolver for a covert sabotuer who's main purpose is to not attract attention?

A shield that replaces the Demo's most useful/skilled weapon? A shield???

[pacifistWITHgun]

The new weapons have more to do with the characterization of the class, not the class' function itself...

[Sarge51]

Yeah. It's like adding in a new class, without actually adding new classes. I wouldn't be surprised if they turned the Engie from a defensive class to an offensive class, too.

[afterstasis]

i haven't played much since the updates, but is there a way on the PC to play without them? is there a mod or certain servers that accomplish said task?

[SonicRocker15X]

i haven't played much since the updates, but is there a way on the PC to play without them? is there a mod or certain servers that accomplish said task?

No. The updates auto show when you start Steam.

[pacifistWITHgun]

anyone want to drop their' steam ID's and maybe get a game going sometime?

[Sarge51]

I don't play with maggots.

[ArmsAreLoud]

These new weapons have gone seriously downhill starting with the Spy vs Sniper update.

Bow and Arrow, and piss for a Sniper? Really?

A sniping Revolver for a covert sabotuer who's main purpose is to not attract attention?

A shield that replaces the Demo's most useful/skilled weapon? A shield???

Jarate's epic. Don't mess with the comedy, man, it's what makes TF2.

The Ambassador is great for those of us who suck at sapstabbing.

I'm better with pipe bombs.

[Apples]

You can be funny and still be out of bounds within the game concept. Otherwise the engineer would be able to assemble mechanical attack dogs that shoot lasers out of their eyeballs.

The medic and pyro updates were able to be completed within the "flavor" of their respective classes.

If they really wanted to do a sword and shield, they could have given it to the soldier. That at least would be believable since Roman soldiers used that style of weapons.

[Sarge51]

It's believable with the Demoman, too, because he's Scottish (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Claymore). Plus it's based off of a "Claymore". Get it? "Claymore? (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M18A1_Claymore_Antipersonnel_Mine)" Bah, you don't get it.

[Apples]

A small video compilation I've been working on. Spoiler: naughty lyrics if that sort of thing bothers you.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GOJRbafrQU4

[Sarge51]

Every time I hear that song I think of the guys on Office Space beating up that copy machine. :) By the way, update is up. Soldier gets two items and the Demo gets his last one. Now all that's left is the "?" item.

[jonoo24]

I wish my computer ran like that. :(

[Sarge51]

War is over. Soldier wins. Gets a pair of shoes that greatly reduces rocket jump damage. Replaces the second weapon slot.

[Apples]

Soldier probably deserved the boots over the demo anyway. He does a lot more rocket jumping than demos do grenade jumping.

The pick axe is interesting from the games I've played so far. It grants a very noticable speed boost. Seems almost too good compared to other melee weaps out there.

[svartikins]

I love me some Team Fortress 2, but I pretty much only play it on my friend's computer. I'm usually fooling around as a sniper, but I decided to go Spy and went uh... nuts.

[ZosoBaron]

Hm...Looks like if I'm lucky, I will soon be able to craft a Pyro hat. :D

[xfearbefore]

Ugh anyone know how to get that "Crockets are such B.S" achievement??

[Pwnz0r3d]

The achievement is random. (Even with all the crap Valve has gone through with this game, this one is supposed to be random)

I reccomend just staying by the lockers and shooting random rockets.
In time you'll get 2 in a row

[SonicRocker15X]

For me, the game starts to run, and gets to the loading screen with the demo and the soldier, and then freezes on a black screen. Anyone know why?
(Yes, my PC does suck at running the game usually but it usually at least runs)

[Sarge51]

Ugh anyone know how to get that "Crockets are such B.S" achievement??

I just stood at one of those ammo cabinets and did it. Took ages. I was actually just goofing off when I actually got the thing. 2 hours before I was shooting like crazy, then in just three bored rocket shots I get it. I rofl'd.

[xfearbefore]

Yeah i got it finally.

Valve owes me an eyelander!

[Pwnz0r3d]

For me, the game starts to run, and gets to the loading screen with the demo and the soldier, and then freezes on a black screen. Anyone know why?
(Yes, my PC does suck at running the game usually but it usually at least runs)

Its a problem with Paged Pool Memory, something the game needs a lot of (as does L4D1 & 2) to run without problems.

I still have no idea what the hell it is or how i get more of it, as i usually have the same crash as you

[SonicRocker15X]

Its a problem with Paged Pool Memory, something the game needs a lot of (as does L4D1 & 2) to run without problems.

I still have no idea what the hell it is or how i get more of it, as i usually have the same crash as you

Actually it started working with no explanation as to why later that day.

[xfearbefore]

Anyone tryin to craft a hat??

[ZosoBaron]

As soon as I start getting some scrap metal, yeah. I've already got my Pyro token.

[afterstasis]

out of curiosity, is TFC still played online very regularly? i presume servers are still available?

i enjoy TF2, but really miss the touch of TFC.

[ArmsAreLoud]

@xfearbefore: Yeah. I'm going for the Spy, since it's my second favorite class (first being Pyro; I really love ambushing the other team) and unlike the Pyro there isn't a hat that I'd be disappointed if I got.

@afterstasis: I've never played TFC. Is it worth getting? After TF2, going back to games with access to grenade spam is... depressing, to say the least.

[Apples]

I just about have the metal to get a hat, but I don't quite understand or trust the system well enough to pull the trigger.

It looks like there's a certain random element to it, and it would be a collosal waste to get a bad hat for as much metal as it takes.

[pacifistWITHgun]

I managed to somehow smelt both all of my pyro's backburners and my soldier's direct hits into scrap.

I was so pissed when I realized I'd smelted the equipped ones.

gg crafting system.

[Sarge51]

Shouldn't be too hard to get them back, really. If they didn't make drops more rare to compensate for the new craft system, that is.

I actually rarely play TF2. When I do it's only for a couple of hours, and that's maybe once or twice a week. and I've only had the game for about three weeks or so. But, I have all the Pyro's unlocks, all the Sniper's unlocks, and a ton of others. Think those are the only two where I have everything, though.

Still need to get the direct hit. After launch day of the update I stopped playing. Haven't played since. I'm probably going to get owned when I start playing again with all these new weapons.

By the way, the boots for the soldier are awesome-sauce.



TFBots are "players", and take up player slots. They run the exact same code that human players do, moving and firing weapons by pressing "virtual buttons". The bots have simulated humanlike senses, and only know what they see, hear, and touch. They also have realistic reaction times and aiming limitations. They don't "cheat" or use omniscient knowledge of the server state to make their decisions.

Valve's secret? SKYNET.

[ZosoBaron]

Got the direct hit yesterday. Seems to be a pretty good weapon. I'm gonna keep it in my Primary slot for a while. :D

Also, I'm now addicted to spamming the Pyro's compression blast. What a waste of ammo. :p

[afterstasis]

@afterstasis: I've never played TFC. Is it worth getting? After TF2, going back to games with access to grenade spam is... depressing, to say the least.

i really loved TFC... though grenade spam occurred in large servers it really added another dimension to 12/16 player games.
i'm also pretty damn good with grenades (yet not so hot with the demo-man), so y'know i felt personally offended when they were removed.

[ZosoBaron]

I just got my first unlockable hat.

YESH.

[pacifistWITHgun]

Shouldn't be too hard to get them back, really. If they didn't make drops more rare to compensate for the new craft system, that is.

I actually rarely play TF2. When I do it's only for a couple of hours, and that's maybe once or twice a week. and I've only had the game for about three weeks or so. But, I have all the Pyro's unlocks, all the Sniper's unlocks, and a ton of others. Think those are the only two where I have everything, though.

Still need to get the direct hit. After launch day of the update I stopped playing. Haven't played since. I'm probably going to get owned when I start playing again with all these new weapons.

By the way, the boots for the soldier are awesome-sauce.




Valve's secret? SKYNET.

I've played like 10 hours the past two weeks and I haven't gotten a single drop. When it first came out it seemed I was getting something for every other kill, now I've been getting nothing.

I only actually have/had all of the pyro, medic and heavy stuff anyways...

[MrFruitLord]

Dear god, the eyelander is just getting annoying. It's like when everybody used the sandman nonstop...

[pacifistWITHgun]

just go pyro, if they miss you initially they're screwed...

[Sarge51]

I personally prefer the pickaxe. Purposely get your health low and go on a killing spree. Buwahahah!

[MrFruitLord]

just go pyro, if they miss you initially they're screwed...

That shield is mostly flame resistent even though it's wooden.

[pacifistWITHgun]

I personally prefer the pickaxe. Purposely get your health low and go on a killing spree. Buwahahah!

yesterday I went medic for a round, half the time there was some dumbass soldier yelling at me to heal them when they were carrying the stupid thing...

moral of the story is people need to read weapon descriptions.

@fruit: 90% of the people I run into with it don't carry the shield. Even if they do there's a good chance they'll end up behind you so you can just turn around and fry their ass off.

[MrFruitLord]

The problem is the charge which grants crits. That's a bit of a pain.

[Pwnz0r3d]

That shield is mostly flame resistent even though it's wooden.

What i hate is that the damn piece of wood can hold fire and explosives, but not simple bullets -_-

And personally i hate pyro, unless im on a cirt server airblasting rockets and nades.

I cant play as pyro besides W+M1

[pacifistWITHgun]

What i hate is that the damn piece of wood can hold fire and explosives, but not simple bullets -_-

And personally i hate pyro, unless im on a cirt server airblasting rockets and nades.

I cant play as pyro besides W+M1

I don't even use the flamethrower anymore. It's all flare gun for me.

I used to main the demo, but I'm not very good at it so I've switched to being mainly a pyro/scout/medic, but occasionally I'll play a sniper. I've been going soldier a lot too. Spy gets a play every once in a while, I rarely ever go engie.

[xfearbefore]

Im tryin' to craft a medic hat

[ZosoBaron]

Im tryin' to craft a medic hat

Good luck. You'll need to find a crap-load of items.

[xfearbefore]

Lol and I don't even have 1 refined metal to get that refined metal i need 1 scrap metal

[ArmsAreLoud]

What i hate is that the damn piece of wood can hold fire and explosives, but not simple bullets -_-
If it was bullet resistant the thing would be entirely broken. Right now the only classes that effectively counter a Targelander are the Scout and the Heavy.

[Luur32]

I love Team Fortress 2. Ive only unlocked the new Soldier toys, but I'm pretty accurate with the Direct Hit. I'm trying to get back into my Scout and Sniper playing, but I always end up going Medic/Engineer/Soldier/whatever is needed

[Sarge51]

I've got a couple of unlocks, but I am thinking about smelting all of my items (aside from the newest items) and try to make something, like a hat, with them.

[ArmsAreLoud]

I've been trying to make a hat. I'm close, but unfortunately the only thing that I have had dropped since the EXTREME DROPPING DAY was a single Buff Banner.