SOURCES: Roy Halladay traded to Phillies in three-team deal

[tridentgum0]

This deal is NOT confirmed. Keep that in mind. It also involves Cliff Lee being traded to Seattle. Terms on other players involved and what Toronto is receiving are undisclosed.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=4742072

I honestly like the move by the Mariners getting Lee. I'd take him over Halladay.

[j_dub_rules]

So why exactly did they get Cliff Lee, the Phils I mean, in the first place? He was mighty clutch in the playoffs, they would have gotten swept in the WS without him. Halladay isn't substantially better. Weird, weird sequence of trades for the Phills. M's are the big winners

Of course, assuming it's true

[Hanrahan89]

Wow. Just wow that is a HUGE trade I'm shocked that Lee is in the deal. This came out of nowhere. Also it looks like Lackey is coming to the Red Sox.

[gmarsh]

Hell, as long as he didn't go to the Yankees, I'd be happy.

[ultimatespidey81]

So why exactly did they get Cliff Lee, the Phils I mean, in the first place? He was mighty clutch in the playoffs, they would have gotten swept in the WS without him. Halladay isn't substantially better. Weird, weird sequence of trades for the Phills. M's are the big winners

Of course, assuming it's true

yeah im not really finding the logic for the phillies trading away cliff lee here. unless....i believe lee is going into the final year on his deal and the phillies tried to sign him and were unable to do so.

[tridentgum0]

Apparently, Roy is in Philly negotiating an extension with Phillies front office managers as I type. This is pretty much a done deal.

[ultimatespidey81]

Wow. Just wow that is a HUGE trade I'm shocked that Lee is in the deal. This came out of nowhere. Also it looks like Lackey is coming to the Red Sox.

with lackey signing with the bosox & lee now going to the M's, it is a very happy time to be a seattle fan. the mariners are making their move and now have a strong 1-2 punch with felix & cliff.

[bmaninc]

The best part: I don't see the word "Yankees" anywhere.

[Mega-Tallica]

Not finalized yet, but it looks like the Blue Jays are getting screwed in this deal. They just get a bunch of prospects that the chances are will never play in the major leagues.

This deal will make it that much harder for my Mets to win the division next year

Nice pickup for the Mariners without giving up too much.

[ultimatespidey81]

looks like the phillies are possibly giving up a lot more than i thought.

http://www.philly.com/philly/sports/phillies/20091214_ap_royhalladayinphiladelphiaforaphysical. html

"The person spoke Monday on condition of anonymity to The Associated Press because the teams had not made any announcement. Philadelphia could give up pitchers J.A. Happ, Joe Blanton and outfielder Dominic Brown as part of a deal, the person said.

Those three players also took physicals in Philadelphia on Monday."

[Banky71]

Man this trade doesn't seem very smart for the phillies.

[Mystlyfe77]

As of this moment the deal looks like this:

To Philadelphia:
Roy Halladay (Toronto)
Juan Ramirez (Seattle, A+ starting pitching prospect)
Phillipe Aumont (Seattle, AA relief pitching prospect)
Tyson Gillies (Seattle, A+ OF prospect)
$6million (Toronto)


To Toronto:
Kyle Drabek (Philadelphia, AA starting pitching prospect)
Michael Taylor (Philadelphia, AAA OF prospect)
"Probably" Travis D'Arnaud (Philadelphia, A C prospect)

To Seattle:
Cliff Lee (Philadelphia)
"Another piece(s)"

This has changed more or less every hour or so since around 3 PM when I first caught wind of the story. Right now it looks like (and it has for the past few hours) that Philadelphia is dealing two top tier prospects in Drabek (ace potential) and Taylor (major league ready) as well as a younger catching prospect for Roy Hallady and $6million, and then are turning around and dealing Cliff Lee to the Mariners for young prospects. Right at this moment, no Mariners pieces are going to Toronto or vice versa.

Halladay has essentially agreed in principle to a 3-year, $60million contract with the Phillies (he was in Philadelphia today with his agent). The Phillies never negotiated with Lee, but heard he wanted a "CC Sabbathia-type deal" and were immediately scared away. Both Lee and Halladay are in the last years of their current contracts. The Phils did manage to hold on to Joe Blanton, J.A. Happ, and Dominic Brown (it seems, anyway). It doesn't completely throw away Philly's future, and gives them an ace for a few years rather than just this one. Given the current situation of the deal, they could have potentially had both Halladay and Lee this season, though.

Toronto is dealing away a player that wasn't going to stay anyway for high-end prospects with a chance to play very soon (if not immediately). Both Drabek and Taylor should get their chances to make the roster during Spring Training. Great move on their part.

I don't really get what the Mariners are doing, here. They're obviously trying to compete right now, but you'd think they'd have learned from the Erik Bedard deal two years ago. True, Lee is better than Bedard and is less injury prone (and they gave up a hell of a lot less), but they only get one year of Lee and it will be far more expensive to try and resign him. I guess they feel the combination of Lee and their other free agent moves (Chone Figgins, namely) can give them a shot at not only the AL West title, but the World Series. High risk, high reward move by the M's.

[ultimatespidey81]

Man this trade doesn't seem very smart for the phillies.

as much as the phillies would love to keep lee & halladay, they just don't have enough bank.


As of this moment the deal looks like this:

To Philadelphia:
Roy Halladay (Toronto)
Juan Ramirez (Seattle, A+ starting pitching prospect)
Phillipe Aumont (Seattle, AA relief pitching prospect)
Tyson Gillies (Seattle, A+ OF prospect)
$6million (Toronto)


To Toronto:
Kyle Drabek (Philadelphia, AA starting pitching prospect)
Michael Taylor (Philadelphia, AAA OF prospect)
"Probably" Travis D'Arnaud (Philadelphia, A C prospect)

To Seattle:
Cliff Lee (Philadelphia)
"Another piece(s)"

This has changed more or less every hour or so since around 3 PM

thanks for the research on this. it certainly has been changed from what it was last night. the jays are probably kicking themselves in the ass as it looks like they are not getting back nearly what they would've last summer.

[Dante1847]

a big thank you goes out to the baseball gods for allowing Roy Halladay to get out of AL East.