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BlingShyne2
04-13-2007, 02:14 AM
Please sweet lord no. Just because it's 9 minutes long doesn't make it led zepplin's freebird. If you want to melt asses go with Black Mountain Side.
Boy it does me good knowing that expressing my personal taste in music is going to DEFINITELY change the outcome of Rock Band.
Kangaroo_Kid
04-13-2007, 07:57 AM
But the whole song is just acoustic guitar, not a lot of fun for the whole band. Achilles Last Stand is the one you want, face melting solo and an awesome song for everyone playing.
Blue88
04-14-2007, 12:42 AM
<p>I heard that song for the first time a few weeks ago. I was all like "Oh wow, Stariway to Heaven! This is supposed to be one of the best songs ever written!"</p><p>But it sorta sucked. It might be cool In GUitar Hero III, though. </p>
Capt_SexyPants
04-24-2007, 04:28 AM
No. Led Zeppelin is sooo overated, the least that can be done is pick a song that doesn't suck. STAIRWAY BLOWS!
Hammer_of_the_Gods
04-30-2007, 09:27 PM
<p>I heard that song for the first time a few weeks ago. I was all like "Oh wow, Stariway to Heaven! This is supposed to be one of the best songs ever written!"</p><p>But it sorta sucked. It might be cool In GUitar Hero III, though. </p>
Are you serious??? Stairway to heaven is easily one of the best songs of all time. It encompasses all that was Zeppelin and has a kick ass solo. I can understand it not being your favorite, but saying it sucks is blasphemy.
BlingShyne2
05-04-2007, 04:54 PM
When it comes to high pitched bands rush mutilates led zeppelin's anus.
Insane3
05-10-2007, 08:12 AM
Ok, Stairway to heaven is really good but someone had a point, there's nothing but guitar on it. Other players have boring tabs. But i don't agree that its the BEST song ever made, this is an opinion thing and if you want to take the best song ever made in terms of complexity you'll have to go search in classical music... It's not that I prefer classical to rock but Wagner's Valkyries ride is much more complex than smoke on the water lol!
Livewire
05-23-2007, 11:23 AM
To some it's one of the greatest songs of all time. However for me, if they was to put it on... GH3 Or Rockband. I'd only play it the once. Because it's incredibly boring and very slow to get into.
Tendoza
05-25-2007, 09:16 PM
I wouldnt in anyway say that stairway sucks, its still a good song, but not for rock band, I believe that zep is one of the most talented all-round bands ever (ex. Rush, The Who, Dream Theater) and you need a song to showcase that
If they made it so you could download all of zeppelin II, that would be sick!
damnfinecat
05-25-2007, 11:14 PM
I also have to say that Stairway to Heaven is probably the song I hate most ever written. And we have to account for bands like ICP and Bloc Party before I make such bold statements, but it's true. I absolutely cannot stand hearing this song.
Cyberjesus
06-01-2007, 03:43 AM
I definately agree with the above post. It's just plain overrated.
I wouldn't mind seeing Metallica - Master of Puppets in Rock bands setlist *hint*
TheHandThatFeeds
06-08-2007, 05:15 AM
No Stairway. Great song, but it's not a track you could play with your mates. It would be great fun for the guitarist but everyone else would be bored by 4 minutes top. Immigrant Song or Achilles Last Stand would be a better choice.
And I don't see how Led Zeppelin "suck" as some people have made out, considering nearly every band and genre on the rock/metal side of things is influenced BY Led Zep, directly or indirectly.
Rorro75
06-09-2007, 03:11 PM
Though Led Zepellin's one of the best bands ever concieved, and "Stairway To Heaven" is a classic and (in my opinion) one of the best songs ever, I agree that it would fit in GHIII, but wouldn't be a really cool song in Rock Band.
I'm really hoping to se some Led Zepellin songs in Rock Band, so I really hope they make it, but not with Stairway.
TheTFNC
06-09-2007, 03:47 PM
As far as Led Zepellin goes, in Rock Band I'd prefer Since I've Been Loving You to anything else.
3kage3
06-09-2007, 08:08 PM
a freeking good sonf would be F.C.P.R.E.M.I.X
Black_Heaven
06-10-2007, 03:50 AM
To me Stairway to Heaven is one of the definitive rock ballads. I wouldn't put it up there next to Freebird seeing that I like Skynyrd alot more than Zep and we'd all be lying if we said we look at music in a subjective way never letting our opinions affect our judgement. In my opinion Skynyrd is one of the few bands that had a solid and complete first album.
3kage3
06-10-2007, 08:02 PM
Please sweet lord no. Just because it's 9 minutes long doesn't make it led zepplin's freebird. If you want to melt asses go with Black Mountain Side.
Boy it does me good knowing that expressing my personal taste in music is going to DEFINITELY change the outcome of Rock Band.
for 1.Free Bird is 14 minutes long for 2.Led Zeplin didnt make freebird lynard skynard did
rosie_187
06-11-2007, 05:54 AM
for 1.Free Bird is 14 minutes long for 2.Led Zeplin didnt make freebird lynard skynard did
Dude, read it out loud to yourself before you press submit.
zankfrappa
06-11-2007, 02:35 PM
not my least favourite song ever, but incredibly over-rated, takes about 6 minutes to get going, and even then its not much to get excited about, it would translate badly onto this game.
bubbameister
06-22-2007, 01:43 AM
Stairway To Heaven is not that bad a song. The problem is that it's more of a great guitar solo song and not a great guitar song like some of Led Zeppelins other work. I agree though that it is overrated.
JudasHendrix
06-22-2007, 03:42 AM
That is enough. Stairway may not be the best song ever written but this is blasphemy.
Personal tastes aside, let's go to the facts. Which song was voted by Rolling Stone as having the best guitar solo in history? Stairway to Heaven. That's right, boys and girls, it's official.
And unofficially? I've been to a few countries during a my time in China, and one thing that we all share is that three quarters of the people I met would see my Zeppelin t-shirt and say "Ah! Stailway to Heaven!".
And another thing. saying it wouldn't be fun to play is like saying that spaceships aren't fun to fly. How the hell would we know? We'll have to wait and see. I was personally on the fence when Guitar Hero II had Freebird, but I picked that sucker up once and was sold. Stairway could be a lot of fun because it encompasses deep chord work, a gorgeous solo, and pretty much fun for the whole band (except the drummer, but who cares). It's all over the place, which is fun, at least in my opinion.
And in conclusion? If you think Stairway is a piece of crap, go out, buy a $150 guitar, and learn to play it. It makes men weep, and girls immediately turn into highly malleable piles of conquest. Just trying to help here.
Frostbitten_Norseman
06-24-2007, 07:36 AM
While it is a highly enjoyable song, it would do better with the sounds of mighty warriors charging down the mountainside to fight an army in the name of their kingdom instead of a guitar solo.
LedZeppelinVanHalen
06-24-2007, 10:08 PM
led zeppelin is one of the rock gods.
jimmy page is one of the best guitarist of all time.
a legend a hero a GOD!
and stairway to heaven is one of the best songs ever written
considering jimmy page wrote it.
it has a good guitar solor too.
led zeppelin is my hero... :]
JudasHendrix
06-28-2007, 09:43 PM
While it is a highly enjoyable song, it would do better with the sounds of mighty warriors charging down the mountainside to fight an army in the name of their kingdom instead of a guitar solo.
Isn't that more of a Dio/Iron Maiden thing?
SirAnonymous
06-29-2007, 02:05 AM
About Led Zeppelin...
As much as Stairway is a beautiful song, it's isn't very band-y.
Good Times, Bad Times seems to be more of a band song. Nice drums, good singing, pleasnt bassline (is it rhythm guitar?), and crazy solos every once-in-a-while.
Hade01
06-29-2007, 02:24 AM
True that "Stairway To Heaven" is a fantastic song, but I don't think it would exactly fit into Rock Band, though I would not complain if it made the final cut. I think a better choice would be something like "The Immigrant Song" or "Black Dog" even.
JudasHendrix
06-29-2007, 08:51 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you guys here. Even me, a self-professed Zepophile, a man who wears an Icarus pendant, has more Zeppelin T-shirts than I have pairs of socks (no lie), and who - for Christ's sake - refers to his car as "The Starship", agrees that Stairway - or, let's be perfectly honest here, any Zeppelin song really - isn't suitable for a video game.
Let me explain - I love Zeppelin as much as I love the oxygen in my lungs, but playing a slightly-dumbed-down-by-necessity version of any Zeppelin song just wouldn't feel right, or be all that fun. The band's success revolved around Sir Plant of Robert's haunting vocals and Meister Page's innovative, genius and often finger-busting fretwork, and that's great for whoever's playing guitar and singing, but the other guys? Out in the cold, baby.
If a Zeppelin song had to be all up in this, I would recommend Stairway because I think it Goddamn rules, but really? Honestly and truly, with you, my anonymous and sometimes hostile internet companions? I'd rather play "Man On The Silver Mountain" by Dio.
If I was in charge of the game, and we should all thank God I'm not, I would put in songs that are fun to play, and just plain fun to listen to (see Bad Medicine or Breaking The Law). Stairway would be one of those "it's an important song, let's throw 'er in there" deals regardless of fun factor.
So. Long story short, I would still like to play Stairway, but I pity the poor bastards on drums and bass.
Besides, it's all but confirmed for Guitar Hero III.
WingsOfSteel
07-05-2007, 09:11 PM
Disclaimer: STAIRWAY TO HEAVEN IS MY FAVORITE LED ZEPPELIN SONG.
With that out of the way, it is good to listen to. It would flat-out suck in GH3 or Rock BAnd, because of slow pacing and playing the same fifteen seconds over and over for the first six minutes. And that's the guitar, it would be even worse for drums and bass, but vocals could be sweet.
I am 100% serious when I say Dolly Parton's cover would be better. It has a faster tempo, more variety in the guitar during the first six minutes, and Dolly Parton is an excellent vocalist. I'd actually love to see her cover in Rock Band, but, let's face it, Led Zeppelin's version would only be fun for the vocalist.
Well, until the solo, but the solo is only thirty frickin' seconds long. Over the Hills and Far Away or Gallows Pole for the win, because they have fast tempoes and guitar that isn't insanely repetitive.
JudasHendrix
07-05-2007, 10:34 PM
I would like to go off-topic for a second here and say that your avatar is the friggin' bomb.
Hastyl3
07-05-2007, 11:41 PM
okay... stairway to heaven would fit more into guitar hero III. the zeppelin songs that would fit into rock band in my opinion are heartbreaker and achilles last stand. Heartbreaker- you can hear the bass, awesome solo, Achilles Last Stand - Just flat out awesome.
WingsOfSteel
07-06-2007, 04:53 AM
It would flat-out suck in GH3 or Rock Band, because of slow pacing and playing the same fifteen seconds over and over for the first six minutes.
okay... stairway to heaven would fit more into guitar hero III.
NO IT WOULDN'T
Over the Hills and Far Away
Jsnkr9216
07-07-2007, 07:51 AM
Yeah, Stairway sucks until about 5 minutes in, then the solo kicks in. Makes you cream, then dies and the song sucks again.
WingsOfSteel
07-07-2007, 05:13 PM
Yeah, Stairway sucks until about 5 minutes in, then the solo kicks in. Makes you cream, then dies and the song sucks again.
I believe you mean "Stairway's guitar."
The song itself is great for all eight minutes.
BlackHole
07-07-2007, 05:38 PM
No Stairway To Heaven no one wants it in GH either we might as well leave it alone.
Desensitized
07-08-2007, 08:12 AM
I'd rather something from "Physical Graffiti", like ANY of the songs before Kashmir.
NYwRiter94
07-10-2007, 12:41 AM
Is it just me, or does anyone else here think that Dazed and Confused has a great solo and pretty good(but really short) drum solo?
WingsOfSteel
07-11-2007, 07:16 AM
Yeah, but it's reaaaalllllly slow during the verses. I'd prefer a song with faster pacing like Gallows Pole, OTHAFA, The Ocean, TSRTS, GTBT, Communication Breakdown, etc.
But, hey, if Dazed and Confused did get on Rock Band, I somehow don't think I'd be too upset.
Holy_Diver360
07-11-2007, 07:47 AM
No. Led Zeppelin is sooo overated, the least that can be done is pick a song that doesn't suck. STAIRWAY BLOWS!
go get AIDS
MadassAlex
07-13-2007, 03:51 AM
That is enough. Stairway may not be the best song ever written but this is blasphemy.
Personal tastes aside, let's go to the facts. Which song was voted by Rolling Stone as having the best guitar solo in history? Stairway to Heaven. That's right, boys and girls, it's official.
Rolling Stone is a **** magazine and the editors are **** and its lists are ****.
There are way better solos.
Don't get me wrong, I love Stairway AND it's solo, but there's a limit and Stairway is very overrated and doesn't deserve the defense OR the aggression it gets.
led zeppelin is one of the rock gods.
jimmy page is one of the best guitarist of all time.
a legend a hero a GOD!
Oh man. You guys gotta start listening to some stuff that isn't strictly mainstream. Some Angra, Blind Guardian or Pelican will blow your mind.
Teh_Jakester
07-13-2007, 04:04 AM
It encompasses all that was Zeppelin and has a kick ass solo.
All that was Zeppelin? Robert Plant moaning into the microphone?
Kick-ass solo? Thirty. Seconds. The solo isn't even that good.
Stairway to Heaven is the most over-rated song of all time. (Besides MAYBE Smells Like Teen Spirit) It's Zeppelin's worst song, and it's the song they're known for.
People compare Stairway to Freebird. There's really no comparison. Freebird is slow for 5 minutes, then has a killer 5-minutre solo. Stairway is 7:30 of slow, boring drudgery, then has a mediocre solo for THIRTY. SECONDS.
Gear_RA_RA_RA
07-13-2007, 04:23 AM
Stairway to Heaven is the worst Led Zeppelin song ever recorded. The solo is the worst Jimmy Page ever recorded. It's one of the most overrated songs of all time, as well as one of the worst. Led Zeppelin should all be shot for even considering to put such a ****ing abomination on the same album as Rock & Roll. But then again, I guess it's not their fault. They didn't even release it as a single. But the radio got hold of it, grabbed it by the testies, and hasn't let go to this very day. Thus reducing Led Zeppelin's legacy to an 8-minute pile of utter garbage. It's sad, really. John Bonham must be spinning in his grave, whilst kicking on the coffin screaming "HAVEN'T YOU IDIOTS HEARD ACHILLES' LAST STAND?!". *Sigh*
Teh_Jakester
07-13-2007, 05:25 AM
Stairway to Heaven is the worst Led Zeppelin song ever recorded. The solo is the worst Jimmy Page ever recorded. It's one of the most overrated songs of all time, as well as one of the worst. Led Zeppelin should all be shot for even considering to put such a ****ing abomination on the same album as Rock & Roll. But then again, I guess it's not their fault. They didn't even release it as a single. But the radio got hold of it, grabbed it by the testies, and hasn't let go to this very day. Thus reducing Led Zeppelin's legacy to an 8-minute pile of utter garbage. It's sad, really. John Bonham must be spinning in his grave, whilst kicking on the coffin screaming "HAVEN'T YOU IDIOTS HEARD ACHILLES' LAST STAND?!". *Sigh*
Couldn't have said it better myself.
Rhamiel_506
07-13-2007, 02:46 PM
One, I aggree with Kangaroo Kid. Two, Rush Sucks Jimmy Page's Devil worshiping Dick!
MadassAlex
07-13-2007, 03:01 PM
One, I aggree with Kangaroo Kid. Two, Rush Sucks Jimmy Page's Devil worshiping Dick!
Alex Lifeson is a better guitarist than Page ever was.
Bradega
07-14-2007, 07:56 AM
I agree that Stairway to Heaven is horribly overrated, and it just annoys me as hell how it gets all the attention even though Zep made so many great songs!
The same goes for Deep Purple's Smoke on the Water if ya ask me. Crappy song in comparison to their other works, but it's the song everyone knows about.
zankfrappa
07-18-2007, 12:45 AM
Don't get me wrong, I'm not disagreeing with you guys here. Even me, a self-professed Zepophile, a man who wears an Icarus pendant, has more Zeppelin T-shirts than I have pairs of socks (no lie), and who - for Christ's sake - refers to his car as "The Starship", agrees that Stairway - or, let's be perfectly honest here, any Zeppelin song really - isn't suitable for a video game.
Let me explain - I love Zeppelin as much as I love the oxygen in my lungs, but playing a slightly-dumbed-down-by-necessity version of any Zeppelin song just wouldn't feel right, or be all that fun. The band's success revolved around Sir Plant of Robert's haunting vocals and Meister Page's innovative, genius and often finger-busting fretwork, and that's great for whoever's playing guitar and singing, but the other guys? Out in the cold, baby.
If a Zeppelin song had to be all up in this, I would recommend Stairway because I think it Goddamn rules, but really? Honestly and truly, with you, my anonymous and sometimes hostile internet companions? I'd rather play "Man On The Silver Mountain" by Dio.
If I was in charge of the game, and we should all thank God I'm not, I would put in songs that are fun to play, and just plain fun to listen to (see Bad Medicine or Breaking The Law). Stairway would be one of those "it's an important song, let's throw 'er in there" deals regardless of fun factor.
So. Long story short, I would still like to play Stairway, but I pity the poor bastards on drums and bass.
Besides, it's all but confirmed for Guitar Hero III.
im sorry but theres no way drumming a led zeppelin song could be boring!! its JOHN BONHAM!! it would be some of the most fun drumming going, and john paul jones basslines would be pretty fun too, something like black dog or rock and roll would work really well i think, or pretty much any song off the first two albums.
lithiumkc
07-18-2007, 01:10 AM
Stairway to Heaven is the worst Led Zeppelin song ever recorded. The solo is the worst Jimmy Page ever recorded. It's one of the most overrated songs of all time, as well as one of the worst. Led Zeppelin should all be shot for even considering to put such a ****ing abomination on the same album as Rock & Roll. But then again, I guess it's not their fault. They didn't even release it as a single. But the radio got hold of it, grabbed it by the testies, and hasn't let go to this very day. Thus reducing Led Zeppelin's legacy to an 8-minute pile of utter garbage. It's sad, really. John Bonham must be spinning in his grave, whilst kicking on the coffin screaming "HAVEN'T YOU IDIOTS HEARD ACHILLES' LAST STAND?!". *Sigh*
Worst led zeppelin song ever recorded? Hardly. Worst solo? No, but nothing special. Overrated? Yes. One of the worst? Grab a friggin brain.
You and jakester have possibly THE worst opinions on music, and combined you make me lol with your completely over-exaggerated reviews of what you dislike.
ZOMG MAINSTRIEM IS AUTOMETICALLY HARRIBLE ESPECULLY WEN DERE ARE BETTER SONGS THAT WEREN AS POOPULAR
It happens, to every band.
Xzyliac
07-18-2007, 02:13 AM
All that was Zeppelin? Robert Plant moaning into the microphone?
Kick-ass solo? Thirty. Seconds. The solo isn't even that good.
Stairway to Heaven is the most over-rated song of all time. (Besides MAYBE Smells Like Teen Spirit) It's Zeppelin's worst song, and it's the song they're known for.
People compare Stairway to Freebird..STOP! Okay let it be known that Freebird's "solo" is made from three minutes of constant bridges and two minutes of actual variety.
Xzyliac
07-18-2007, 02:21 AM
Stairway is dear to me but even still it isn't the greatest I admit. And I'm not looking for the greatest. I just know what I enjoy. Just like having fun.
Oh and Achilles FTW!
Teh_Jakester
07-18-2007, 03:00 AM
You and jakester have possibly THE worst opinions on music.
How can an opinion be wrong, exactly?
lithiumkc
07-18-2007, 03:06 AM
How can an opinion be wrong, exactly?
Because through what you have shown through your own posts, you judge music based on how 'mainstream' it is and other **** that doesn't have anything to do with the song itself. Calling Stairway the worst song ever just proves you know nothing about music, or very little. Overrated, yes. Worst song ever?.. you're gonna get laughed at by 99% of the people you share that opinion with. It's clearly leagues above TONS of other music, and above a good portion of their own catalogue. It's just overplayed. You are confusing overplayed and overrated with terrible. This is a fail.
You can not like music, but your reasons are invalid. They're based mostly on PRINCIPLE and nothing else.
Teh_Jakester
07-18-2007, 03:25 AM
Sori. Stairway is the SECOND worst song ever. Sori that I jugde songs on more than sound.
lithiumkc
07-18-2007, 03:31 AM
Sori. Stairway is the SECOND worst song ever. Sori that I jugde songs on more than sound.
Oh yeah, and enter sandman is the worst ever. Y'know, not like the entire backstreet boys catalogue, any boy band you can name, need i go on... i mean **** man, its obvious youre exaggerating, just say you don't like the song. Its blatantly obvious that it's not even in the bottom several thousand songs ever.
Teh_Jakester
07-18-2007, 05:22 AM
Okay, rock song.
lithiumkc
07-18-2007, 05:45 AM
Okay, rock song.
Worst rock song? How about....
Most of Sum41's catalogue.
Anything by nickleback
Most anything by HINDER, Not By Choice, avril lavigne, skye sweetnam, the darkness, gob
Want me to go on? That was off the top of my head. You fail. Stop trying to prove a point thats not even there.
Teh_Jakester
07-18-2007, 06:35 AM
But those bands suck to begin with. Metallica and Led Zeppelin are good bands. You're judging songs based on how they sound, not on a variety of things like I do.
WingsOfSteel
07-18-2007, 06:41 AM
Judging songs based on how much you personally like the song rather than a complex mix of popularity, band quality, and other factors?
This is madness!
Good God, lithiumkc, what is wrong with you?
p.s. worst rock song by a band I like is The Ballad of John and Yoko.
DIEGOROBOT26
07-18-2007, 12:58 PM
When it comes to high pitched bands rush mutilates led zeppelin's anus.
Dude I love Rush more than the next guy but they're different from Zeppelin and can't and shouldn't be compared, and to the ******* who said Lifeson sucks I have nothing to say to you because you are an ignorant scumbag and should be most likely hung. Stairway is amazing, just not for video games, it's for listening to and having sex to. :cool:
IbanezBassist_v2
07-19-2007, 01:17 AM
Two words.....Immigrant Song! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ahh!
Stairway is amazing, just not for video games, it's for listening to and having sex to.
I agree, that and experementing.
On that note. Another band thats good to experement with is Tool! Not only will you hear the notes, but see them as well!
WingsOfSteel
07-19-2007, 04:54 AM
Two words.....Immigrant Song! Ahhhhhhhhhhhh ahh!
Ten words... Four seconds of guitar repeated over two minutes of song.
Two more words... No solo.
Phrank-E
07-19-2007, 07:46 AM
Great! The Stairway debate has made it's way here too.
My wife (HUGE Zeppelin fan) pointed this put to me..
Stairway continues to come in the top three and usually first place in every top 100 rock songs on almost every countdown nationwide.. and has for decades. Her reason for this is that the song starts off simple and builds and builds through every verse to a crashing cresendo at the end.... Sex baby!
Song hits people at a hormonal level.
Jakes never had sex so he can't get into a song like this.
WingsOfSteel
07-19-2007, 12:58 PM
Heh.
Side A of Led Zeppelin IV is notorious for being a good make-out record.
For the record, I think it's an amazing Zep song, one of their best, but it's not at all suited for Rock Band or GHIII.
SweetLikeGravy
07-19-2007, 01:22 PM
Personally, I'm disgusted that only one person in this entire seven-page topic mentioned Song Remains The Same, which may be the best Led Zeppelin guitar song. Heartbreaker, Over The Hills, and Communication Breakdown are also good choices. Achilles Last Stand, though not THAT great for guitar, would be good in rock band. Stairway would be bad in rock band, but Immigrant Song would be worse.
Oh, and a live version of Moby Dick as Final Encore for the drum campaign FTMFW!!!!!!
WingsOfSteel
07-19-2007, 04:55 PM
I think the best Zep guitar song would be Gallows Pole, but The Song Remains the Same is great, too.
I'm not sure which reference you're talking about, but I mentioned it as TSRTS (If you blinked, you might have missed it) on Page 4, and it has very good guitar.
SweetLikeGravy
07-20-2007, 07:38 AM
I think the best Zep guitar song would be Gallows Pole, but The Song Remains the Same is great, too.
I'm not sure which reference you're talking about, but I mentioned it as TSRTS (If you blinked, you might have missed it) on Page 4, and it has very good guitar.
I was talking about your reference.
Phrank-E
07-20-2007, 08:24 AM
Battle of Evermore... Yeah Yeah Yeah.. I know it is a mandolin.... But GH1 had us strumming to organs...
Dye'r Mak'r (sp?) for the reggae fans...
rcf1105
07-20-2007, 02:33 PM
The Rodrigo y Gabriela version of Stairway would be good in Guitar Hero.
trent0090
07-20-2007, 05:43 PM
shh. Hear that? Don't worry kids (anyone under what 40 or so now?) What you are reading is the rants of the old people trying to stay relavent. One day we will be like that so it's no big deal, is Zep overrated? Yes, yes, god yes, they are not the reason metal or hard rock is the way it is. The only difference is the metal and hard rock bands of today stole from white boys like Zep, while Zep stole the sound from all the great Black blues men. So, yeah rock is theft and pushing into "new sounds." (don't let them fool you into believing otherwise.)
lithiumkc
07-21-2007, 12:22 AM
shh. Hear that? Don't worry kids (anyone under what 40 or so now?) What you are reading is the rants of the old people trying to stay relavent. One day we will be like that so it's no big deal, is Zep overrated? Yes, yes, god yes, they are not the reason metal or hard rock is the way it is. The only difference is the metal and hard rock bands of today stole from white boys like Zep, while Zep stole the sound from all the great Black blues men. So, yeah rock is theft and pushing into "new sounds." (don't let them fool you into believing otherwise.)
Most music you like is probably based on 'theft'. Every band steals a sound or a rhythm from another band. In fact its almost impossible these days to be original.
trent0090
07-21-2007, 01:07 AM
Most music you like is probably based on 'theft'. Every band steals a sound or a rhythm from another band. In fact its almost impossible these days to be original.
That was my point. Look I just get tired of people my dad's age or a little younger tell me how what they listened to was "rock" and I'm just listening to manufactured corporate crap. I just think it's funny when old people say the 70's was the best time for rock but they only bring up about five bands to prove it. (I'm 22)
Phiromos
07-21-2007, 02:37 AM
Most music you like is probably based on 'theft'. Every band steals a sound or a rhythm from another band. In fact its almost impossible these days to be original.
it is...EXCEPT THE BEATLES...all original baby!! WOOHOO go beatles...
lithiumkc
07-21-2007, 02:47 AM
it is...EXCEPT THE BEATLES...all original baby!! WOOHOO go beatles...
You would think... But they were actually pretty talented shapeshifters when it came to music. If you notice how different each of their albums are, it's because they could basically play any genre you threw at them, and they took pride in playing anything they could. Which just so happened to be everything :p .
They were completely fresh and original, but they owe a lot of their success to the bands that surrounded them at the time. They just did it so incredibly well that even today it sounds new.
Oh yeah, plus a big thanks to Bob Dylan who got them started heavy on the drugs =)
Phiromos
07-21-2007, 02:50 AM
You would think... But they were actually pretty talented shapeshifters when it came to music. If you notice how different each of their albums are, it's because they could basically play any genre you threw at them, and they took pride in playing anything they could. Which just so happened to be everything :p .
They were completely fresh and original, but they owe a lot of their success to the bands that surrounded them at the time. They just did it so incredibly well that even today it sounds new.
Oh yeah, plus a big thanks to Bob Dylan who got them started heavy on the drugs =)
lol that is very true....thank you and damn you bob dylan...haha...they made great music while high off their asses...but it still came at a price...but oh well..they do owe alot to the bands that surrounded them..if a new genre came up..they could tackle it...but only thanks to the band that started it
trent0090
07-21-2007, 12:20 PM
Look it's nothing personal about Zep but, I just don't care about them. Their are enough bands out now to hold me over. Music is just something I play in the background to the games I play on the computer. As long as I like it I'll play it, I listen to rap, techno, classical, industrial, punk, death, black and heavy metal, blah blah, blah etc... To many bands to listen to, to be forced to care about one more. Are they good? Sure, I like black dog.
Later, dudes
hope you have a good day.
Julio_Strikes_Back
03-05-2008, 05:59 PM
Please sweet lord no. Just because it's 9 minutes long doesn't make it led zepplin's freebird. If you want to melt asses go with Black Mountain Side.
I am Julio and I approve this message.
BedBeats
03-05-2008, 06:23 PM
"Stairway To Heaven" makes me feel homicidal.
IslandBoy91
03-05-2008, 07:11 PM
No Stairway? woah...denied!
For all you...people(I'll be nice) who think the Stairway guitar solo sucks because it's too short and this and that, blah blah blah... You need to hear it live. It's epic, man.
Good times bad times, Over the hills and far away, Achilles Last Stand, Black Dog, the immigrant song (more of a (drunken) party song) anything off Led Zeppelin II and theres a few others that would be great for Rock Band. Jimmy Page is one of the greatest guitarists that ever lived. John Bonham, best. Drummer. Ever. John Paul Jones plays a great bass line and Robert Plant is a great singer! You'd have to be ******ed to think these songs wouldn't be fun to play on Rock Band.
BhindBluEyes430
03-05-2008, 07:18 PM
The most OVERRATED SONG EVER as Voted By you ( well not you personaly but by the people of this fourm) http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=31399&page=4
The solo isent special AT ALL. PLZ SOMEBODY TELL ME WHAT EVERYONE LOVES ABOUT THE SONG. its got no drive, no emotion. Too long and too boring. The solo dosent suck because its short. It dosent suck in general but its not anything special. The Lyrics are meaning less. The Chord progressions a rip off mostly. and its just basicaly arpegiated chords on an azoutsic until the solo
You may want to reavluate your claim. Bohnam only has about three min of druming in the whole song. And its not far from a basic 4/4 beat
yes there are some Zep songs i would love for rock band "Communication Breakdown" "Lemon Song" or "Heartbreaker" other than that im pretty bored with Led zeppelin
Julio_Strikes_Back
03-05-2008, 07:24 PM
The Chord progressions a rip off mostly.
Um, no. It's not.
BhindBluEyes430
03-05-2008, 07:27 PM
Um, no. It's not.
"The intro to "Stairway to Heaven" is argued to have been inspired from the Spirit song "Taurus" written by Randy California in 1968"
"Matthew Greenwald suggests that Led Zeppelin took this riff from "Taurus" by Spirit, stating, "Led Zeppelin (who had toured with Spirit in 1968/1969) used a strikingly similar guitar melody as the basis for their now-classic 'Stairway to Heaven,' "
http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/Zep/StairwayToHeaven.php
Randy California, who wrote "Taurus", was aware of the similarity between his song and "Stairway to Heaven" but always maintained a low-key response when asked about it. A number of websites have repeated (without attribution) the notion that Randy California didn't regard "Stairway to Heaven" as plagiarism, but rather as a "reworking" of his song
Julio_Strikes_Back
03-05-2008, 08:47 PM
http://www.turnmeondeadman.net/Zep/StairwayToHeaven.php
The original artist doesn't think it's a ripoff. Zeppelin doesn't think it's a ripoff. It's not a ripoff.
It's similar, but that must mean you think Sanitarium is a ripoff of Tom Sawyer because they have similar chords.
Julio_Strikes_Back
03-05-2008, 09:27 PM
Blues tradition has never had a problem with artists borrowing
riffs, lyrics or techniques from other artists. Given the extensive
grounding in the blues that Led Zeppelin had, it is unlikely they
were acting in anything but this spirit when they entered the studio
to add their own touches, revisions and additions to the blues legacy
of artists that preceeded them.
"Stairway To Heaven" - It has been murmured that there is a vague
similarity between the opening notes of this song and those of a
song by Johnny Rivers called "Summer Rain". Another suggested
source for the introduction chords is The Chocolate Watch Band's
"And She's Lonely". The solo chords are also similar to the
chords of Dylan's, and Hendrix's, "All Along The Watchtower",
though the chord progression is hardly uncommon and any direct
influence is also unlikely.
From http://www.iem.ac.ru/zeppelin/docs/IFMTL-1.html
IslandBoy91
03-05-2008, 09:37 PM
"Vague similarities in the opening notes... similar chord progression here and there."
There are only so many notes that can be played, It's IMPOSSIBLE to play a decent sounding song without using a string of chords or notes that haven't been used in an earlier song.
And everybody has their inspiration, I'd like to see somebody that has never had any contact with anything to do with music sit down and write a song that is less than a fraction as good as Stairway to Heaven.
No_Skill
03-05-2008, 09:43 PM
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Stairway To Heaven
Overrated: Yes
Overrated solo: Yes
One of the Greatest Songs Ever: Yes
stairway is a great song, true very very very over rated. i cud think of a handful of better songs, but its still one of the best ever.
This is my best songs ever
1. Imagine John Lennon
2. Baba O'Reilly The Who
3. Strawberry Fields Forever The Beatles
4. More Than A Feeling Boston
5. Stairway To Heaven Led Zeppelin
so is it the best ever no, but its a great song still on of the greatest ever
and also come on u say its not the best for rock band. but i kno for a fact u still pay your 2 bucks for it if they put it on. who wouldn't???
Quinarvy
03-05-2008, 09:52 PM
Just listened to Taurus....theres a small part in the middle that sounds similar to Stairway, but its not the same.
polishdog90
03-06-2008, 01:35 AM
How can an opinion be wrong, exactly?
They can't be wrong. Which his opinion is that your opinion's suck so it's not wrong. Some opinions can be better than others.
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