Rock Badn at my local Target..PRICE CUT!!

[Furballxcore]

i was amazed to see that at my local target they had many Rock Band Bundles for 360 and PS3, but i was also shocked to see the price of them to be $154.99. WOW! haha

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[ClinTrojan]

umm I believe I see a 169 on the sign right above the rockband.......owned?

[Xerosnake90]

wtf, why does every frikkin place have it all of the sudden and my mom had to pay 212 dollars for it on ebay to get it. HMX can lick my balls, learn how to make a product and manufacture it enough before sending it out and leaving thousands of people unhappy or spending 40 to 50 dollars more for it. Pisses me off

[ClinTrojan]

It is Harmonix's fault that she had to buy it on ebay from someone who bought it just to make money off ot it on ebay???

[DesiredFX]

wtf, why does every frikkin place have it all of the sudden and my mom had to pay 212 dollars for it on ebay to get it. HMX can lick my balls, learn how to make a product and manufacture it enough before sending it out and leaving thousands of people unhappy or spending 40 to 50 dollars more for it. Pisses me off

Yeah, that's right: it's Harmonix' fault that some unscrupulous guy hoarded extra copies so he could extort money from parents who were trying to make their kids happy at Christmas.

If you're gonna be pissed off, focus it on the right people.

[Xerosnake90]

Well I wouldn't have to get it from ebay if it was stocked on shelves wouldn't I?

[Teh_Nfsjunkie91]

Well I wouldn't have to get it from ebay if it was stocked on shelves wouldn't I?

All the ones on store shelves have already been bought, and the pre-orders were probably filled with people just trying to get money from people like you by buying them from other places. Do you think Harmonix puts the game up on Ebay? Of course not.

[Furballxcore]

yes it did say $169.99 on the sticker thing above, but there was a little sticker on the box's that had a $154.99 on them

[DesiredFX]

Well I wouldn't have to get it from ebay if it was stocked on shelves wouldn't I?

It was stocked on the shelves. Demand exceeded supply--and here's the part you don't seem to get--in large part because people were buying as many copies as they could so they could screw people out of extra money on eBay.

I got mine on launch day. I strolled in 90 minutes after the doors opened and bought a copy. If I had wanted 10 copies so that I could sell 9 on eBay, I could have gotten them. They were sitting in a stack right in front of me.

If your mother had come to the store I was in on the same day I did, she would have gotten one at regular price. Unfortunately for her, some people who don't have the ethics that I have bought multiple copies precisely so they could shaft people like your mother.

I had a conversation on another board with a guy who bragged about buying 13 copies. He said he didn't give a crap about kids or parents, he was just in it to get something extra for himself simply because he had something that someone else wanted and was willing to pay extra for.

[Xerosnake90]

So when you're older one day assuming you aren't yet, with kids and what not, and something great comes out that your kid can only dream for. It's gone everywhere from store shelves and the only way to get it is by spending a ton of money more on something like ebay, but you just can't spend that money, THAN WHAT are you gonna tell your kid? Is THAT gonna make it okay for you or your kid? Telling your kid "I'm sorry son, they just couldn't make enough copies". No, it's not, and than your kids hopes are crushed and you just feel pathetic so who am I gonna blame? The people who bought it, or the company who couldn't make enough copies of it?

My mom went out on a limb to get the game for me, we didn't wanna go past the 200 dollar limit for everything on one person together, she spent 212 alone just for the game and still got me some more small things. And that's all cuz she didn't wanna dissapoint her kid. If you think that's right to have to spend so much on something than you go ahead.

[Teh_Nfsjunkie91]

So when you're older one day assuming you aren't yet, with kids and what not, and something great comes out that your kid can only dream for. It's gone everywhere from store shelves and the only way to get it is by spending a ton of money more on something like ebay, but you just can't spend that money, THAN WHAT are you gonna tell your kid? Is THAT gonna make it okay for you or your kid? Telling your kid "I'm sorry son, they just couldn't make enough copies". No, it's not, and than your kids hopes are crushed and you just feel pathetic so who am I gonna blame? The people who bought it, or the company who couldn't make enough copies of it?

My mom went out on a limb to get the game for me, we didn't wanna go past the 200 dollar limit for everything on one person together, she spent 212 alone just for the game and still got me some more small things. And that's all cuz she didn't wanna dissapoint her kid. If you think that's right to have to spend so much on something than you go ahead.

Pre-ordering then storing until Christmas works great.

If you can't get a copy of the game, you either find it somewhere after the Christmas rush, tell 'em santa came late, or find them something else.

[Keebler]

So when you're older one day assuming you aren't yet, with kids and what not, and something great comes out that your kid can only dream for. It's gone everywhere from store shelves and the only way to get it is by spending a ton of money more on something like ebay, but you just can't spend that money, THAN WHAT are you gonna tell your kid? Is THAT gonna make it okay for you or your kid? Telling your kid "I'm sorry son, they just couldn't make enough copies". No, it's not, and than your kids hopes are crushed and you just feel pathetic so who am I gonna blame? The people who bought it, or the company who couldn't make enough copies of it?

My mom went out on a limb to get the game for me, we didn't wanna go past the 200 dollar limit for everything on one person together, she spent 212 alone just for the game and still got me some more small things. And that's all cuz she didn't wanna dissapoint her kid. If you think that's right to have to spend so much on something than you go ahead.

Boo-****ing-hoo. Your mom loves you a lot and you got the game. Stop complaining.

[DesiredFX]

Wow...you're gonna grow up to be one of those people. The ones that stand in the retail store and ask the manager, "what am I supposed to tell my kid when Santa doesn't bring what they want?"

"First, lady, you may have to tell them there's no such thing as Santa. This should lead nicely into an explanation of supply and demand."

But, y'know what? That doesn't even apply here, because you got your copy because your mother was willing to let some guy who got to the store ahead of her shaft her for fifty dollars above what it cost.

Again, I got it on launch day at a store that had a combined total of about 25 copies between the two platforms. I had an opportunity to buy one at retail so I did.

Obviously, Harmonix and EA made enough copies because you got one. Your issue is not with the manufacturer but with the guy who thought it was okay to gouge fifty extra bucks out of your mother.

Are you getting this, yet? If Harmonix had made a 50,000 more copies of the game, that just means there would have been 40,000 more on eBay, because that's what people do at Christmas time: they find the high-demand items, hoard them, and then sell them at ridiculous prices.

[Furballxcore]

$212 isnt even that bad for this game to buy from a reseller, because if you had bought it at the release it was $169.99 plus the tax for me it came out to like $184.65 or something like that so your only paying like $27 dollars extra if you bought it at $211 so it aint a big deal, if she has enough money to buy you the game in the first place at the price it is, than an extra $27 shouldnt matter

[Joten91]

Your Target was open today?

[Xerosnake90]

=] Wow, I can see that there's no point to try and argue. Apparantly to you it's as simple as....

1. It's never HMX fault for not producing enough copies

2. Maybe you shouldn't complain cuz you got it

Well, no, I don't have it =] Still waitin for it to get to my house. I don't always have the money to get it, so reserving it or anything was out of the question. All the money I made whilest working was taken from me, not to be seen again, and I need it for a car and college anyway. Sorry, not everyone has everything given to them by their parents.

[Keebler]

1.) HARMONIX does not produce anything. They developed the game. EA is in charge of the manufacturing of the peripherals.

2.) Your mom could have reserved it, is what we're trying to say. She didn't HAVE to buy it on eBay. There are other outlets (craigslist is one!).

3.) Your money should be your money. It should never be "taken from you."

[Flyerfye]

Ah, supply and demand. Isn't that a song by The Hives? No, seriously. As though everyone else hasn't beaten this thoroughly into the ground, here's some more. There will always be reselling at higher prices to meet demand. Ticket scalping has been going on since sports events have been popular. (which is a LONG time.) The number of units produced is based on how much the manufacturer thinks it will sell, and how much money they can actually spend MAKING millions of guitar, drum, and mic controllers.

I'll tell you what, Rock Band is a HELL of a lot easier to find than a Wii this Christmas. And is that Nintendo's fault, or Harmonix/EA's fault that their product sells well and people are, in fact, willing to still pay 2x retail for it on Ebay? On Ebay, the prices are LITERALLY set as whatever people are willing to pay for them. That lets these people who buy up all the copies stay profitable, and keep doing what they do. That's right. It's the people who BUY things for inflated prices that are to blame. They let the scalpers stay in business.

Also, where the heck was your mom shopping? I keep seeing Rock Band boxes every store I go to, right up into the 20th or so. (after the 20th, I avoided retail areas at all costs, but there may very well have been plenty of boxes left,) And there are certainly some on shelves now, heck, there are even online retailers that aren't sold out. I just bought a copy for my cousin online (new, for retail price, not inflated crap).

[Furballxcore]

na the picture wasnt take today at target, it was taken i think on the 22nd when i was doing some xmas shopping for my girlfriend

[Xerosnake90]

1.) HARMONIX does not produce anything. They developed the game. EA is in charge of the manufacturing of the peripherals.

2.) Your mom could have reserved it, is what we're trying to say. She didn't HAVE to buy it on eBay. There are other outlets (craigslist is one!).

3.) Your money should be your money. It should never be "taken from you."

Ok, than EA should put out more. Whoever puts it out there, same thing as I was saying earlier.

She couldn't, didn't have the money at the time. Like I said, we can't get everything whenever we want.

My money is taken from me. I only worked a month and a half before school started making a bit more than 1000$ in that time. 800 out of that total was taken from me.


Ah, supply and demand. Isn't that a song by The Hives? No, seriously. As though everyone else hasn't beaten this thoroughly into the ground, here's some more. There will always be reselling at higher prices to meet demand. Ticket scalping has been going on since sports events have been popular. (which is a LONG time.) The number of units produced is based on how much the manufacturer thinks it will sell, and how much money they can actually spend MAKING millions of guitar, drum, and mic controllers.

I'll tell you what, Rock Band is a HELL of a lot easier to find than a Wii this Christmas. And is that Nintendo's fault, or Harmonix/EA's fault that their product sells well and people are, in fact, willing to still pay 2x retail for it on Ebay? On Ebay, the prices are LITERALLY set as whatever people are willing to pay for them. That lets these people who buy up all the copies stay profitable, and keep doing what they do. That's right. It's the people who BUY things for inflated prices that are to blame. They let the scalpers stay in business.

Also, where the heck was your mom shopping? I keep seeing Rock Band boxes every store I go to, right up into the 20th or so. (after the 20th, I avoided retail areas at all costs, but there may very well have been plenty of boxes left,) And there are certainly some on shelves now, heck, there are even online retailers that aren't sold out. I just bought a copy for my cousin online (new, for retail price, not inflated crap).

It's sold out everywhere around here, not a single freakin copy anywhere, unless I wanted the stand alone game. And wth is the point in that?

[DesiredFX]

Again, you can't blame the manufacturer for how well something sells...

...PARTICULARLY...

...and read this slowly because you don't seem to get it...

...if there are hawks out there willing to empty the shelves in the hope of selling it at a mark-up.

It's not EA/Harmonix/your mom's fault that someone out there was willing to buy multiple copies of the game in the hope that they could sell them at a profit. The manufacturer and distributor have absolutely no control over how many copies sell.

In fact, they went out of their way to handle issues with defective instruments by asking customers NOT to take the game back and exchange the whole bundle. They were doing everything they could to keep as many copies available for sale to consumers as possible.

[Xerosnake90]

Ok , you don't seem to understand. I can't blame someone for how well something sells, I can blame someone for not having enough units. And when you make a game like Rock band, you know for sure you're selling a massive amount of copies.

READ THIS PART SLOWLY, I FREAKING GET IT, THAT'S NOT THE POINT AS I HAVE BEEN EXPLAINING. THERE IS NOTHING ELSE TO SAY ABOUT IT.

[DesiredFX]

But that's exactly the point: you can't blame the manufacturer because they can't control who buys them or how many they buy.

It's not EA's fault that more people wanted to buy the game than they could manufacture and ship in the time frame they had between finalizing the designs and Christmas.

And it's certainly not EA's fault that some of the people who bought the bundle were unscrupulous enough to turn around and sell it at a profit.

As I said before, if they'd made 50,000 more, that would just mean more of them showing up on eBay to be sold at a profit.

[Flyerfye]

I think there is something else to say about it. Harmonix/EA made the amount of copies they thought would sell comfortably with some left on the shelves, and they WERE RIGHT. The beginning of this thread starts with a pile of Rock Band boxes sitting in Target on the 22nd of December, unsold and waiting. (If I remember my thread correctly) They made the right number of copies. Sales statistics show that Guitar Hero III is outselling Rock Band this Chirstmas. CONSIDERABLY. (Reasons for this are an entirely different topic) Target had it ON SALE. That meant it wasn't selling fast enough. There are copies out there, untold legions of copies. Somehow your mother was not able to find these copies, or lived in an area with poor distribution.

[Xerosnake90]

If they made 50,000 more, yea more would be on ebay. But that also means thousands more would be in the homes of people looking for them. So what's there to say one of those couldn't have been mine? I would easily take 'make sure I get a copy and wait a month or 2 longer' than 'release now, huge chances that I can't get it for a month or two that I would've waited anyway if they took longer to make more copies'.

I live in Vegas dude =P, one of the more 'major' cities that you'd consider.

[Kazer-X]

Wouldn't it be your fault if it truly is anyones fault?

You could have easily gone to a local Target, Best Buy, Walmart, etc and buy it on the first day it came out. If you didn't have the money or time you could have waited. You could also have easily preordered games and such from EB, Gamestop, etc beforehand.

If you truly felt so bad about spending too much on it you would have told yourself and your mom that you could wait. I know I would if I was in a tough situation.

This happens all the time with the latest hot new gadget, video game, etc. Ipods, Iphones, PS3's, Xbox 360's, and Wii's are common examples, Not enough in stock on launch date, sold for outrageous prices on Ebay.

I didn't want to rag on you but it seems like you're angry over something you had control over. It reminds me of the people that bought PS3's on Ebay for $1,000-$2000 and then complained about it. No one forced them or you to be impatient.

[KillAutumn]

So when you're older one day assuming you aren't yet, with kids and what not, and something great comes out that your kid can only dream for. It's gone everywhere from store shelves and the only way to get it is by spending a ton of money more on something like ebay, but you just can't spend that money, THAN WHAT are you gonna tell your kid? Is THAT gonna make it okay for you or your kid? Telling your kid "I'm sorry son, they just couldn't make enough copies". No, it's not, and than your kids hopes are crushed and you just feel pathetic so who am I gonna blame? The people who bought it, or the company who couldn't make enough copies of it?

My mom went out on a limb to get the game for me, we didn't wanna go past the 200 dollar limit for everything on one person together, she spent 212 alone just for the game and still got me some more small things. And that's all cuz she didn't wanna dissapoint her kid. If you think that's right to have to spend so much on something than you go ahead.




I saw the question and immediately thought Answer 1 was correct.


Thus making your point null and void. :D

[trey.hutcheson]

=] Wow, I can see that there's no point to try and argue. Apparantly to you it's as simple as....

1. It's never HMX fault for not producing enough copies

2. Maybe you shouldn't complain cuz you got it

Well, no, I don't have it =] Still waitin for it to get to my house. I don't always have the money to get it, so reserving it or anything was out of the question. All the money I made whilest working was taken from me, not to be seen again, and I need it for a car and college anyway. Sorry, not everyone has everything given to them by their parents.

I preordered my copy from EB Games on GH3's launch day. For RB's launch day, I got off early and picked it up. On the way home, I stopped by Walmart for a few supplies, and I saw a stack of at least 20 bundles sitting there. No preorder required.

And BTW - I don't have **** given to me. I'm 31 years old, have a family, and buy my own ****.

And if you don't have the money, maybe you shouldn't have it in the first place.

[Keebler]

For people without the money: credit card?

[Flyerfye]

For people without the money: credit card?

Going into debt is never the answer. Unless the result is rocking out hardcore. Oh wait.

[cjkuhlenbeck]

Congratulations, your the 1,000,000 person to come on here and ***** about harmonix for something they DIDN'T do....Why don't you try some reasonable *****ing, like "my guitar broke 5 minutes after usage", or "my bass pedal on my drum broke", or even "my drum heads arent sensisitive enough/cracked". This is seriously getting old, some kid was on here yesterday complaining about how he got charged for not returning a broken guitar, in exchange for a replacement. Look, small factor, i live in ST.LOUIS, its a pretty F'n big city, with an f'n lot of people...GUESS WHAT, on release day, at about an HOUR after it came out, every wal-mart but one was sold out, so i drove out there to pick it up. 4 HOURS, yes i said 4 hours later, on my way to work, EVERY wal-mart was RESTOCKED. ea supplied enough, like the others said, people screw over people stupid enough to not look around. STOP blaming the game developers, and START blaming the horders and your mother. And seriously, if you didnt have the money, and blah blah blah, need a car, blah, whine, blah, blah, then WHY was it the top priority to get this game? why not ask for money so you can get all the things you were whining about. Don't come looking for sympathy because your dumb end of story.

So anyways, you think the price cut just mighta been for the holidays? i know wal-mart dropped their PS3 game prices the day before to help up sales...

[grim88]

I got mine day after Thanksgiving. There were tons available at Best Buy and other locations.

[Furlious]

I was lucky when I went to see the Buffalo Bills play the Dolphins Dec 9th that the Target by the stadium had a 360 Rock Band box on the shelf. When I asked if they had ps3 versions the lady got one from the back. My brother and I were doing flips! We each got one and brought it back to Canada to show our friends. We were so lucky, not only did we pay $169 (less with exchange) instead of $199 cdn we got it before it came up to Canada. Thank you Buffalo!!

Oh and my guitars work fine. Been playing non stop since and no issues.

[ThinkSoJoE]

I was lucky when I went to see the Buffalo Bills play the Dolphins Dec 9th that the Target by the stadium had a 360 Rock Band box on the shelf. When I asked if they had ps3 versions the lady got one from the back. My brother and I were doing flips! We each got one and brought it back to Canada to show our friends. We were so lucky, not only did we pay $169 (less with exchange) instead of $199 cdn we got it before it came up to Canada. Thank you Buffalo!!

Oh and my guitars work fine. Been playing non stop since and no issues.

Well, as a resident of Western New York, you're welcome :p

In all seriousness though, the guy arguing with everybody about how it's not fair that his mom had to spend an extra 27 bucks needs to chill out and prioritize. You're old enough to drive and you're about to go to college, you should be old enough to understand how economics work. Not to beat a dead horse even further, but the reason that you can't seem to find one on shelves is because the manufacturer, despite their best efforts, can't keep up with the demand for the product. This also holds true for Nintendo with the Wii. Of course, on both fronts, the real reason you can't find one is probably because you're not trying hard enough. Then again, if you can't afford what you're paying for the game, you probably shouldn't be spending your money on it in the first place. And to reiterate what a majority of the posters in this thread thusfar have said, it's not EA's fault, HMX's fault, your local retailers' fault, eBay's fault or (and I think I'm the first one to say this) even your mother's fault that some people with disposable income decided they needed more money and bought extra copies just to sell. Dude, I sympathize with you entirely, though I think you're clearly old enough to understand if your mom decided not to buy it from an eBay seller and wait for the supply in your area to catch up with the demand.

When my daughter is the age I'm assuming you are, if whatever she wanted for Christmas disappeared from shelves and I wasn't able to get it at retail price in time for the holidays, I'd just tell her why I couldn't get it and that I'd get it for her when I was able to find a copy. If she started complaining "but why?" or "but Daddy, I want it" or whatever, I'd probably consider calling up her school and trying to get her economics teacher fired.

[Rastak]

I'm sure EA didn't decide they's rather make fewer so they could have fewer sales. They gauged demand and produced accordingly. When demand exceeded supply I'm sure they produced as many as they could. For the record, my wife found the game for me a week before Christmas. She had to to hit three stores to do it though. I saw a pile of them in early December at a Best Buy. I bought a Wii last year off Ebay because I couldn't find one in stock but not once did I ever get pissed at Nintendo. It never occured to me. As others have said, supply and demand.

[cjkuhlenbeck]

Wait til you get older and manage a McDonalds ;) you'll understand then

[Transbrak]

you are not a beautiful and unique snowflake.

facts are there was an annouced shortage, and even then every time i went in a store i saw a copy sitting on the shelf (or a pallet in walmart)

if your mom didnt preorder id say the 20 something extra she spent isnt much to ***** about at all

if it is to you then wait until you can find it in stores, you cant always have what you want when you want it, its a fact of life.

[Thethrax]

Actually its an incredibly smart move by Harmonix/MTV/etc to sell it at stores at a cheaper price... They know there are 'capitalists' out there trying to screw us all over by buying up all of the inventory and leeching it slowly off of ebay, kijiji, amazon, etc for exorbant prices. So this way, those capitalists are losing money by hanging onto those sets trying to get more money.

[HMXJohnlok]

Cut it out with the flames people.

-I totally see where you guys are coming from. However, we're bustin' ass getting RB into stores, and have been throughout the holiday season. We've had the somewhat double edged blessing of having an enormously popular game. We are shipping as many as we can make.