Contact your favorite Christian Rock Band.

[Lock]

Contact them anyway you can and tell them you want their songs in RB. If they can offer them to download for free in RB then their digital music sales will spike! I know that this is not for everyone but Christian bands rock too. Since this would be available through DLC you can decide if you want to download or not.The following songs are my choice to add to RB, if you have never heard the song before check it out at itunes or amazon. I would love to jam to the following songs w/ my son, for the Son. :)

DC Talk - Jesus Freak
Kutless - Strong Tower, Shut Me Out, We Fall Down
This Beautiful Republic - Black Box, Right Now, Cloud Cover
Red - Breathe into Me
Relient K - Who I Am Hates Who I've Been
Need to breathe - You Are Here
MercyMe - So Long Self, Coming up to Breathe
Hawk Nelson - The One Thing I Have Left
Thousand Foot Crutch - Rawkfist <-- ultimate RB song! Fun to just listen to.
Decemberadio - Dangerous

[jjtru]

who would want to do that

[Lock]

who would want to do that
Well I would that's why I started this thread, and I have. Have you ever listened to any of the songs on my list?

[jjtru]

no i didnt

[xNOSOUP4YOUx]

I like the idea, but I dont think that the bands would agree with the free download concept.

[FultonPub]

I think those songs should be included in the Rock Band - Jesus Edition.

Thanks!

[Lock]

I don't think there will be a Jesus edition! So we will have to settle for regular edition w/ some Christian Rock!

[Bloodlust]

Tourniquet plz

[toad3000]

While this is an...adorable idea, who's going to pay HMX to program the song charts? These things don't write themselves...

[33percentgod]

Why is it that all Christian rock has to be about Jesus? You ever wonder that? You don't have to SING every song about Jesus or something religious to be Christian rock. Why can't you just be a band living a religious and moral lifestyle and sing clean rock songs? They don't all have to be word for word a re-telling of the bible.

[Toby]

How are we supposed to contact the bands though?

I could try leaving comments on like underoaths myspace but its not gonna do anything....

[Loveshack09]

As I lay Dying!!! They're christian, and they're not all "I love you jesus"

plus they're metal, and that's always good

[Andyx1337]

Not all christian bands have jesus in every song, in fact, some songs you can just hear them like any regular song, but really has a message, like a explicit message that has to do with the bible. i.e thousand foot krutch

[herders78]

i have some christain rock for ya!

twisted sister

ac/dc

they are all christains

[zturn]

i have some christain rock for ya!

twisted sister

ac/dc

they are all christains

ummmm....... ac/dc means anti Christ devils child ya i'm sure their Christian!

[zturn]

yes please get some good Christian music like Skillet,Anberlin,Kids in the way,P.O.D,Family force 5, and more Flyleaf. i can play so much better when they are songs i like and if they would do like full albums and Christian setlist many churches would buy them for their Youth Groups and i know some kids that can't get it cuz it doesn't have any but 1 Christian songs

[BuRn7 CaK3]

yes please get some good Christian music like Skillet,Anberlin,Kids in the way,P.O.D,Family force 5, and more Flyleaf. i can play so much better when they are songs i like and if they would do like full albums and Christian setlist many churches would buy them for their Youth Groups and i know some kids that can't get it cuz it doesn't have any but 1 Christian songs

you know, i never though about it like that, but thats a killer idea.

But the hard think is to watch what they play all the time... but good idea

[toad3000]

ummmm....... ac/dc means anti Christ devils child ya i'm sure their Christian!

Sigh...NO, it doesn't...that's just the religious right proclaiming them as Satanists. They're just a rock band. Tone down the hysteria.

[OhHematophobia]

Underoath would be tons of fun, however the kick might suck. Wailing on the cymbals like there's no tomm. and jumping on your kit might give you an idea.

[WingsOfSteel]

Kansas is the best Christian band.

[Lock]

Why is it that all Christian rock has to be about Jesus? You ever wonder that? You don't have to SING every song about Jesus or something religious to be Christian rock. Why can't you just be a band living a religious and moral lifestyle and sing clean rock songs? They don't all have to be word for word a re-telling of the bible.

There are. Bono from U2 is one, Flyleaf, Red are a couple more bands. Switchfoot, and there are others in different genres like MC Hammer, Reverend Run.

[zturn]

Sigh...NO, it doesn't...that's just the religious right proclaiming them as Satanists. They're just a rock band. Tone down the hysteria.

ok so what does AC/DC mean then????

[TheGreatKtulu]

ok so what does AC/DC mean then????

Angus and Malcolm Young developed the idea for the band's name after seeing the acronym "AC/DC" on the back of a sewing machine owned by their sister, Margaret. "AC/DC" is an abbreviation for "alternating current/direct current", which indicates that an electrical device can use either type of power.

[zturn]

Angus and Malcolm Young developed the idea for the band's name after seeing the acronym "AC/DC" on the back of a sewing machine owned by their sister, Margaret. "AC/DC" is an abbreviation for "alternating current/direct current", which indicates that an electrical device can use either type of power.



hahahahahaha ur funny! but the band did a statement in sum magazine when a reporter asked them what it stood for they said anti Christ devils child.(and no i do not rember the magazine)

[eliandthecottonjins]

I have heard alot of "Jesus" in various rock band songs so why not.

[TheGreatKtulu]

hahahahahaha ur funny! but the band did a statement in sum magazine when a reporter asked them what it stood for they said anti Christ devils child.(and no i do not rember the magazine)

Yes, so obviously their first album being titled HIGH VOLTAGE was pure coincidence and had nothing to do with the origin of the band name, since they're so obviously satanic with all the... um... whatever they have that makes ******ed people think they're evil.

[emburn]

I'll pass on religious rock thank you.

[RapscallionJones]

Yes, so obviously their first album being titled HIGH VOLTAGE was pure coincidence and had nothing to do with the origin of the band name, since they're so obviously satanic with all the... um... whatever they have that makes ******ed people think they're evil.

Dude. Don't feed the trolls. People who still think that AC/DC is some kind of code for satanic worship also still believe that KISS stands for Knights In Satan's Service.

[Karmeleaux]

Alright, we've got at least one person who has implied all Christian music is terrible, and at least one person who is playing the part of a religious zealot. Time to lock up shop?

I'm actually a fan of some of the bands mentioned here, but topics with the word 'Christian' in the title always seem to draw the same response.

[daretobelieve]

this cracks me up. heres a guy wanting christian music but ends up getting caught up in an argument about something that doesn't even matter.

i would call myself someone who has been given an amazing gift through Jesus... however, "christian music" doesn't do much for me. i much prefer bands like anberlin who have AMAZING songs but don't sing every song about Jesus. rather, they tell a story that most of us can relate with, but leave enough mystery in the lyrics so you can decide on your own what the song is about. i think everyone gets tired of hearing the same words, same story, and same four chords that most "christian music" tends to use. you just can't connect with audiences that way, and as you can see from this thread, that seems to be a pretty accurate statement. sorry. its my soapbox. rockband is amazing, but bands like anberlin, mute math, jonezetta, and cold would add a lot i think!!

[Lock]

I'll pass on religious rock thank you.
I understand your decision to pass. That's the great thing about DLC anyone can decide to download or not.

Kind of got off topic w/ AC/DC name thing. Great Band don't remember anything satanic about them though.

Anyway if you have not listened to any of the songs in my list before check'em out. Not every song on a Christian Rock Band's album has Jesus in it.

[superdude]

I think that is a great idea. I would love to rock with Stryper. That group (like POD), have a lot of great songs w/o even saying the word God (for all you non-believers).

[emburn]

Music is music, if I see DLC that I don't recognize I try to go check it out either on a youtube video or just google the song for clips, lyrics, etc. I just don't like songs to be "preachy", not just religious, but strong political views, etc. I just don't know why a band would take the label of "Christian" if they at least don't sing about religion or their beliefs, etc. If they do, I'll pass. I respect your right to make it and those to listen to it, I expect mutal respect for me to perhaps disagree with your views and not listen/purchase.

[Lock]

Music is music, if I see DLC that I don't recognize I try to go check it out either on a youtube video or just google the song for clips, lyrics, etc. I just don't like songs to be "preachy", not just religious, but strong political views, etc. I just don't know why a band would take the label of "Christian" if they at least don't sing about religion or their beliefs, etc. If they do, I'll pass. I respect your right to make it and those to listen to it, I expect mutal respect for me to perhaps disagree with your views and not listen/purchase.

You got it. I will give you mutual respect. I'm just adding my set list I would like to see in RB and asking those who agree w/ my list to ask their fav. CRB to send their music in. I know there are those who do not like this genre. That is OK w/ me. I just want to rock to my set list.

[emburn]

Coolio. Who knows, maybe you'll get your wishlist someday.

[Nexus510]

Yeah I agree Lock, There is some great christian rock bands that would be so fun to play. TFK, Skillet, Pillar, Audio A, Dead Poetic, Hawk Nelson, 12 Stones, Relient K, Red, UnderOath..i could go on. And i understand if people dont want to play them, thats why it would be DLC like you said, I love a lot of non-christian bands as well that i would like to see so im on both sides of the fence here. Just getting the CRB on the DLC is going to be much harder that the other :-(.

[Lock]

There is nothing wrong w/ the music they have in RB now. I am glad they edited a few of the songs to fit the "T" rating though. Thanks EA/Hamonix.

Being a youth leader at the church.
I think this would be a huge hit for the youth when they get together at church. Having CRBs would allow us to use RB @ youth functions. That would be a blast!

[eminentgonz]

While I'm not big on the Christian music, it's pretty lame for people to bash it. Grow up.

[xNOSOUP4YOUx]

Relient K, underOATH, and As I Lay Dying are three of my favorite bands. And im not necessarily a firm Christian.

[superdude]

Music is music, if I see DLC that I don't recognize I try to go check it out either on a youtube video or just google the song for clips, lyrics, etc. I just don't like songs to be "preachy", not just religious, but strong political views, etc. I just don't know why a band would take the label of "Christian" if they at least don't sing about religion or their beliefs, etc. If they do, I'll pass. I respect your right to make it and those to listen to it, I expect mutal respect for me to perhaps disagree with your views and not listen/purchase.

This quote should be sticked to the main forum page. I cant believe how many ppl here are so ignorant and self centered. So many forget DLC, dont DL it if you dont like/want it. There are so many times i have read request that made me say "WTF? I wouldn't DL that even if it was free!" But I would never post that remark about any song. In a business standpoint, They should do as much request as possible 2 keep this game rockin & keep getting$

[zturn]

This quote should be sticked to the main forum page. I cant believe how many ppl here are so ignorant and self centered. So many forget DLC, dont DL it if you dont like/want it. There are so many times i have read request that made me say "WTF? I wouldn't DL that even if it was free!" But I would never post that remark about any song. In a business standpoint, They should do as much request as possible 2 keep this game rockin & keep getting$


i totally agree

[BuRn7 CaK3]

i totally agree

Me too x2
/\

[Piratelion]

I don't want to offend anyone, but i take exception to people saying christian rock is "the same 4 chords". While a lot of people request "mainstream" christian rock, you can not label all the same. A lot have been said of christian rock being just a copy of secular rock, but has anybody listened to Saviour Machine? A lot has been said about christian rock not having musicianship, but has anyone listened to Tourniquet?

On topic, i will contact Stryper and their record company to see if they can loan some tracks to rock band. They have a new album coming out and will be great publicity for them to be in Rock Band.

[SLCdragons102]

tht would be aweome

also deathbed by Relient K its like 11 min. but i like tht song

[daretobelieve]

I don't want to offend anyone, but i take exception to people saying christian rock is "the same 4 chords". While a lot of people request "mainstream" christian rock, you can not label all the same. A lot have been said of christian rock being just a copy of secular rock, but has anybody listened to Saviour Machine? A lot has been said about christian rock not having musicianship, but has anyone listened to Tourniquet?

I actually have listened to Tourniquet and enjoy them very much. Do they play Tourniquet on the radio? How many other people know who Tourniquet is? My statement is intended to show that there are people out there making great music (like you've pointed out) that most will never hear because there is this idea that music with a "christian" label should be accessible to everyone which requires them all to sound (relatively) the same.

My problem isn't necessarily with the genre, just the way its presented. It's not me bashing it either. Its a critique on my part because I am a Christian and an avid listener. In the end, I would just love to see some great music added as DLC - regardless of whether or not it specifically appeals to me.

[Piratelion]

Don't get me wrong, i agree with you that groups like Pillar, Thousand Foot Krutch, Kutless and even now good-old Disciple sound the same. It just that a lot of negativity is directed to a band just because they are "christian", so they must play simple. One of the bands i enjoy is Weezer, yet in this forums a lot of people would say "No Christian Rock, is too simple"yet request the entire blue album(which i like by the way).

I just hope that bands like Tourniquet will offer thir songs free to Harmonix. If more bands knew the impact that it will have in them, like what happened to Dragonforce after being featured in GH3, hopefully quality music that have never reach people will find an incredible new outlet. Hopefully harmonix will continue giving us more "Bang Camaros", indy bands that produce great music.

[jjtru]

christian rock sucks a s s !!!!

[TribalDancer]

There are so many great Christian rock bands! It would be easy to make some great choices for RB!

And it is funny to me people who try to pigeonhole all Christian music as "about Jesus" or what have you. Most don't realize that there are a lot of Christian band songs played on their mainstream pop and rock stations, but they wouldn't recognize it because the lyrics are just about LIFE, like any good song.

[jjtru]

did u know as i lay dying is christian , there good ;) but the other s h i t sucks

[Lock]

christian rock sucks a s s !!!!

Didn't u say u never listened to any Christian Rock? What is your opinion based on? Oh wait you did find one "as I lay dying" but only one good song. What was the purpose of ur last two posts? You have ur own threads give ur opinion in those.

For those who have asked about contacting CRBs go to their website and shoot them an e-mail telling them u want them to contact the makers of RB to add their songs.

Oh another band I forgot about is Tree63 although they don't have a bass player. King above all Kings would still rock in RB.

[jjtru]

as i lay dying is a band not a song u monkey:rolleyes:

[fightattack]

I know that Demon Hunter supposedly was asked to OK one of their songs being included in Guitar Hero III.
They passed on it because they didn't know what Guitar Hero (they're not gamers).

A good chunk of these Christian bands are on Tooth & Nail or one of their sub-labels.
I'll ask around and see if this is on their radar at all and if the label or bands are at all interested.

I definitely do buy into bands' inclusion leading to some record sales because playing this and GH has definitely opened my eyes to bands that I never would have listened to previously.

[Punkrockdrummer]

Some older Relient K isnt too bad, Sadie Hawkins dance and Forward motion and pretty cool, even though they would be really easy.

[Lock]

as i lay dying is a band not a song u monkey:rolleyes:
Yes I know I was stating that u only like one of their songs.

[JimmyRyan]

There is nothing wrong w/ the music they have in RB now. I am glad they edited a few of the songs to fit the "T" rating though. Thanks EA/Hamonix.

Being a youth leader at the church.
I think this would be a huge hit for the youth when they get together at church. Having CRBs would allow us to use RB @ youth functions. That would be a blast!

See, this is the one reason why I would object to Christian Rock being in Rock Band. There is an attitude amongst devout Christians (not directed at you, Lock) that anything without the title of Christian attached to it is somehow sinful or to be avoided. You said yourself that the music they have is fine, and they have edited any song with curse words to make it even cleaner. I am not a youth group leader at a church, but the music already released is clean enough to share it with 13+ year old kids.

Furthermore, lots of people in this thread are saying that Christian Rock bands sing about other things besides Jesus, like life and love, etc, which is what other mainstream rock bands sing about. If this is so, why does a band need the Christian designation?? If you don't sing about Jesus, etc, how are you a Christian band and not just a pop rock band? Again, it seems like a designation meant to appeal to a certain demographic that would otherwise write it off.

Including that genre may just have the effect of further alienating Christian and non-Christian music. I dunno, maybe I'm thinking too hard, but I've seen firsthand the way Christians can be....elitist....with many things, music included. And of course the second we get a song pack with lyrics like "jesus is my Lord, he is my Savior, I love Jesus...", well, that will be a little too much. Of course, I don't have to DL it.

That said, the game is "Rock Band" and Christian Rock is a legitimate sub-category of that genre and should be included as such. Personally I will avoid it, however.

[Alonzo1948]

See, this is the one reason why I would object to Christian Rock being in Rock Band. There is an attitude amongst devout Christians (not directed at you, Lock) that anything without the title of Christian attached to it is somehow sinful or to be avoided. You said yourself that the music they have is fine, and they have edited any song with curse words to make it even cleaner. I am not a youth group leader at a church, but the music already released is clean enough to share it with 13+ year old kids.

Furthermore, lots of people in this thread are saying that Christian Rock bands sing about other things besides Jesus, like life and love, etc, which is what other mainstream rock bands sing about. If this is so, why does a band need the Christian designation?? If you don't sing about Jesus, etc, how are you a Christian band and not just a pop rock band? Again, it seems like a designation meant to appeal to a certain demographic that would otherwise write it off.

Including that genre may just have the effect of further alienating Christian and non-Christian music. I dunno, maybe I'm thinking too hard, but I've seen firsthand the way Christians can be....elitist....with many things, music included. And of course the second we get a song pack with lyrics like "jesus is my Lord, he is my Savior, I love Jesus...", well, that will be a little too much. Of course, I don't have to DL it.

That said, the game is "Rock Band" and Christian Rock is a legitimate sub-category of that genre and should be included as such. Personally I will avoid it, however.

First off, no one said non Christian music is bad. The reason Lock would probably bring rock band to a Christian group functions with Christan songs is probably because at these functions they try to get the group involved in fun Christian experiences, such as games. Rock band, currently, has nothing to do with Christian music or anything Christian so Lock wouldn't bring it, but if it had a few Christian songs in it Lock could bring the game in as another activity, and most likely a very popular one.

Second just because a Christian band has a few songs out thats not about Jesus doesn't mean the bands not a Christian band. For example Family Force Five. in there CD the have a song about converting a friend to Christianity and another song about hows hes addicted to Jesus' love, but just because the band has a song about how someone braking up with his girlfriend doesn't mean the band's not Christian.

[JimmyRyan]

First off, no one said non Christian music is bad. The reason Lock would probably bring rock band to a Christian group functions with Christan songs is probably because at these functions they try to get the group involved in fun Christian experiences, such as games. Rock band, currently, has nothing to do with Christian music or anything Christian so Lock wouldn't bring it, but if it had a few Christian songs in it Lock could bring the game in as another activity, and most likely a very popular one.

Right, but this is the point I was trying to make. Why would it be fun for such a group of people ONLY if Christian Rock was included. Sure, it speaks to you more closely, but there are a ton of songs in RB that I don't relate to but still get enjoyment out of playing/singing. The fact that you would need Christian songs to be interested is what I was talking about.


Second just because a Christian band has a few songs out thats not about Jesus doesn't mean the bands not a Christian band. For example Family Force Five. in there CD the have a song about converting a friend to Christianity and another song about hows hes addicted to Jesus' love, but just because the band has a song about how someone braking up with his girlfriend doesn't mean the band's not Christian.

Ok, first off, I am not a music snob. People can like whatever they want because musical taste is entirely subjective.

But what I was talking about here are bands like Switchfoot and Creed, even, bands who very rarely mention Jesus in their lyrics. The message can be taken to mean Jesus or it can not, depending on one's point of view. A band like Family Force Five sounds like a Christian band with many songs being about Christianity or aspects thereof. The one's I mentioned are pop rock bands in all but what they call themselves: Christian Rock.

[Lock]

But what I was talking about here are bands like Switchfoot and Creed, even, bands who very rarely mention Jesus in their lyrics. The message can be taken to mean Jesus or it can not, depending on one's point of view. A band like Family Force Five sounds like a Christian band with many songs being about Christianity or aspects thereof. The one's I mentioned are pop rock bands in all but what they call themselves: Christian Rock.

You are correct these bands are the same as pop rock bands and what I like to call modern Christian music. The more popular songs have some "Jesus" references but not many. Alot of bands have "Jesus songs" and regular "pop type or Rock songs" on the same album. I just like the Christian bands as I know others do so I asked for their songs. Plus I would be able to take it to church functions at church or church related functions.

Again there is nothing wrong w/ the music in RB I like most of it, and love playing it. Just would like more of the bands I listen to in RB.

No offense to anyone. Not trying to convert anyone, just trying to get my setlist.

[TribalDancer]

I don't see why this is a big issue at all.

Good music is good music.

There is some good Christian rock music out there and it would be great on RB.
Finis.

[SenRaq]

Send a email to Skillet at

Skillet@skillet.com
Zach@qmanagementgroup.com

Know your rights to RRROOOCCCKKK!!!

[Lock]

You got it!

[toad3000]

There is nothing wrong w/ the music they have in RB now. I am glad they edited a few of the songs to fit the "T" rating though. Thanks EA/Hamonix.

Being a youth leader at the church.
I think this would be a huge hit for the youth when they get together at church. Having CRBs would allow us to use RB @ youth functions. That would be a blast!

Hmmm...last I checked, the "F" word is allowable in anything rated safe for teens. I don't really understand the drive to censor the songs if they're trying to maintain a T rating. It's not like we have 2 Live Crew in the game.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Hmmm...last I checked, the "F" word is allowable in anything rated safe for teens. I don't really understand the drive to censor the songs if they're trying to maintain a T rating. It's not like we have 2 Live Crew in the game.

Its not just that word, its the way people use some of the words that make them bad.

Every Single Word in the English Dictionary is Safe (ex: B!TCH = Female Dog) but its the way that people use them that make them bad.

[mcar2185]

I think the idea of featuring some "Christian" rock artists in RB is a great idea. I would definitely pay to download them. Especially if the following artists were released as DLC:

Sanctus Real
dc Talk
DecembeRadio
Fighting Instinct
Thousand Foot Krutch
Pillar
Skillet
Kutless
Jeremy Camp
Todd Agnew

And a slew more I could probably come up with. I think they could release songs by these artists and charge 80 MSP and people would buy it. I know I introduced this idea to people in a free PC guitar game that is similar to GH and people were VERY receptive of it.

[bhesters]

Switchfoot
Skillet
Sanctus Real
Todd Agnew
Thousand Foot Krutch
DC Talk
Jeremy Camp
Lifehouse
Sonicflood

Consider how many churches there are in your city as an estimate of market size. Consider that there are 2 or more Christian themed radio stations in every major market that only play this music, and then consider how many youth groups, bible study groups, and young adult fellowships that meet weekly and would love to be able to express their musical passions like your existing user base fall into the same 16-30 year old target audience for modern console game development. Also consider the parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles looking for good Christmas and birthday gift ideas that don't include violence, nudity, or strong language. This addition would give them a $170 product that, either natively with a sequential "Praise Band" release or available via DLC, would fit with the social and religious beliefs they would like to promote in their loved ones.

Alex Rigopulos, CEO and Co-Founder of Harmonix, said in every interview he gave ahead of the Rock Band release that RB "..was not to create a game, but a new platform for music entertainment" that would allow players "...to experience new music". Everyone familiar with this genre will agree that both musically and technically Christian Rock is as robust as its mainstream counterparts. I think the Christian genre music that is completely lacking in the current song selections is a great opportunity to do exactly that.

You don't have to force it down the throat of those who might not be interested. I think you'll find that several of the songs from these groups would appeal to both groups. But, failing to make this content available to a huge audience that would love have it will miss out on a huge opportunity.

[Lock]

Switchfoot
Skillet
Sanctus Real
Todd Agnew
Thousand Foot Krutch
DC Talk
Jeremy Camp
Lifehouse
Sonicflood

Consider how many churches there are in your city as an estimate of market size. Consider that there are 2 or more Christian themed radio stations in every major market that only play this music, and then consider how many youth groups, bible study groups, and young adult fellowships that meet weekly and would love to be able to express their musical passions like your existing user base fall into the same 16-30 year old target audience for modern console game development. Also consider the parents, grandparents, aunts, and uncles looking for good Christmas and birthday gift ideas that don't include violence, nudity, or strong language. This addition would give them a $170 product that, either natively with a sequential "Praise Band" release or available via DLC, would fit with the social and religious beliefs they would like to promote in their loved ones.

Alex Rigopulos, CEO and Co-Founder of Harmonix, said in every interview he gave ahead of the Rock Band release that RB "..was not to create a game, but a new platform for music entertainment" that would allow players "...to experience new music". Everyone familiar with this genre will agree that both musically and technically Christian Rock is as robust as its mainstream counterparts. I think the Christian genre music that is completely lacking in the current song selections is a great opportunity to do exactly that.

You don't have to force it down the throat of those who might not be interested. I think you'll find that several of the songs from these groups would appeal to both groups. But, failing to make this content available to a huge audience that would love have it will miss out on a huge opportunity.

Exactly, this is the idea I was trying to get across. Thank You.
We have three Christian radio stations in my area and 1 of them is in HD so there are two channels for that station. Since I live in the southeast, there are churches on almost every corner in my state!

[bhesters]

It's a great idea, Lock. To make it a reality, Harmonix will have to see there is a broad enough demand and revenue potential for it and that it won't run off some of their existing subscribers who, as several responders have voiced, don't want to be preached to.

To get these songs into the game, Harmonix has to negotiate licensing (read: money and lawyers). They have to secure the original track recordings. They have to transpose the music into game readable format, and they have to program the animations, the audience, and the sets. They have to host and distribute the content, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have to OK all of it with the console manufacturers like Microsoft and Sony that might be opposed to the idea of support a Christian product. MTV, one of Harmoix's largest supporters in building this game might also not like the idea. It's a big job that takes time and money, has a lot of stakeholders, and Harmonix will want to make sure they get the biggest bang for their buck and their efforts without hurting what is a remarkably successful product.

In addition to getting friends and fans to contact artists, I would encourage you to pick 2 or 3 songs from this genre that you really like. Focus on the Grammy nominated stuff and top 10 hits that made the cross over to mainstream like "Meant to Live" & "Dare you to Move" from Switchfoot or "Whispers in the Dark" & "Rebirthing" from Skillet. Those are likely to end up as down-loadable content. If Harmonix sees a large demand for this genre, they'll put one or two more up, and they may eventually build a whole set for it. IF they tank, though... The idea is lost forever because no one will fund another effort. Get as many people as you can who have RB to come here and support those songs specifically. Make sure they buy it when it's available, and you'll be helping one step toward that goal along.

[Lock]

It's a great idea, Lock. To make it a reality, Harmonix will have to see there is a broad enough demand and revenue potential for it and that it won't run off some of their existing subscribers who, as several responders have voiced, don't want to be preached to.

To get these songs into the game, Harmonix has to negotiate licensing (read: money and lawyers). They have to secure the original track recordings. They have to transpose the music into game readable format, and they have to program the animations, the audience, and the sets. They have to host and distribute the content, and I wouldn't be surprised if they have to OK all of it with the console manufacturers like Microsoft and Sony that might be opposed to the idea of support a Christian product. MTV, one of Harmoix's largest supporters in building this game might also not like the idea. It's a big job that takes time and money, has a lot of stakeholders, and Harmonix will want to make sure they get the biggest bang for their buck and their efforts without hurting what is a remarkably successful product.

In addition to getting friends and fans to contact artists, I would encourage you to pick 2 or 3 songs from this genre that you really like. Focus on the Grammy nominated stuff and top 10 hits that made the cross over to mainstream like "Meant to Live" & "Dare you to Move" from Switchfoot or "Whispers in the Dark" & "Rebirthing" from Skillet. Those are likely to end up as down-loadable content. If Harmonix sees a large demand for this genre, they'll put one or two more up, and they may eventually build a whole set for it. IF they tank, though... The idea is lost forever because no one will fund another effort. Get as many people as you can who have RB to come here and support those songs specifically. Make sure they buy it when it's available, and you'll be helping one step toward that goal along.

OK your first point. You are telling me that David Bowie has a big enough fanbase in RB to have three downloadable songs? HAHAHAHAHA first point is wrong.

Second point. Christian Rock has a larger fanbase that u think, Just because u don't listen to it does not mean everyone else doesn't. Please don't think so highly of yourself. It's not good.

Third point. EA/HMX wants diversity in this game. As far as big sellers do u remember WWJD, Passion of the Christ, & The Chronicles of Narnia? Talk about dollars, how about millions of dollars!
I live in the southeast (Bible Belt) and there are churches everywhere!

Thanks for playing, stick to ur own threads.

[TribalDancer]

Well, yes. Bowie has enough of a fan base to have entire albums in RB. So that point is right. Just because you aren't a fan or aware of the tremendous fan base doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I have never heard of WWJD (I mean, I know the acronym, but don't know what you mean by bringing it up?), and Chronicles of Narnia was not a specifically Christian movie (though the themes are well known to be) and has a wide appeal outside of Christian circles.

Beyond that, I agree that they want diversity. This game can be a little bit of everything to everyone. It's what makes me excited about the DLC! And Christian rock would fit great!

[Lock]

Well, yes. Bowie has enough of a fan base to have entire albums in RB. So that point is right. Just because you aren't a fan or aware of the tremendous fan base doesn't mean it doesn't exist.

I have never heard of WWJD (I mean, I know the acronym, but don't know what you mean by bringing it up?), and Chronicles of Narnia was not a specifically Christian movie (though the themes are well known to be) and has a wide appeal outside of Christian circles.

Beyond that, I agree that they want diversity. This game can be a little bit of everything to everyone. It's what makes me excited about the DLC! And Christian rock would fit great!

OK not arguing w/ on Bowie, yes he does have the fans in real life, but those who purchased RB ehhh not buying that one.

I brought up WWJD because of all the different things that sold w/ WWJD on it. $$$

Actually we are supposed to be talking about my setlist not listening to everyone whine cause they don't like Christian music when they haven't even listened to my setlist.

[xHeadbang_X_Herniax]

Why is it that all Christian rock has to be about Jesus? You ever wonder that? You don't have to SING every song about Jesus or something religious to be Christian rock. Why can't you just be a band living a religious and moral lifestyle and sing clean rock songs? They don't all have to be word for word a re-telling of the bible.

Most christian bands also have songs not-about-jesus.
I'm not christian myself, and I DO like christian bands.
And yes, also the about-jesus songs.

This Beautiful Republic, Pillar, Thousand foot Krutch and Skillet are all awesome. (:
There were songs I listened to, and then when I checked the genre, it was Christian Rock.
But I wasn't like ''oh, it's Christian rock, so I won't like it anymore..''.

[SoggyNoTouchy]

I didn't really want to read everything on here (it seemed to get testy at one point), but did anyone mention Disciple, Demon Hunter, Underoath, Emery, Haste the Day, Hawk Nelson or Fireflight?

[SoggyNoTouchy]

I don't see why this is a big issue at all.

Good music is good music.

There is some good Christian rock music out there and it would be great on RB.
Finis.

Even though I am a Christian and listen to a lot of these bands and would love to see them in the game for that reason, excepting that: QFT! Good music is good music; and some of it would be perfect for this game.

[Nole4fClover]

^ QFT, good music is what it is; good music. Musicians find their inspiration through many channels, and faith is one (albeit probably the most controversial) of many. I'd love to see "Kill Me, Heal Me" by Skillet in rock band as much as "Judith" by A Perfect Circle.

[Jacobs_Ladder]

Examples of good christian music? I appose this not because it is christian, but because i have never seen a christian band whos music I didn't despise.

[Sambo]

Here are some good Christian rock/metal bands:

Demon Hunter
RED
Skillet
Kutless
Becoming the Archetype
August Burns Red
Still Remains
As I Lay Dying
P.O.D.
Haste the Day
Flyleaf (more of it)
Thousand Foot Krutch
War of Ages
TobyMac
Switchfoot
Day of Fire
Norma Jean
Chevelle
Neal Morse
Relient K
Earthsuit
Benjamin Gate
Disciple
Pillar

I'm a Christian and after all the controversy of putting Christian music into RB, I don't know what to expect from all of this! But for those of you who don't know already, Flyleaf is already in RB and if you hate, disagree, or bash on Christian music, a Christian band is already on there, so deal with it! Besides, Flyleaf doesn't use the terms God and Jesus all the time! If you listen to 'I'm So Sick', it proves my point!

[Jacobs_Ladder]

I'm So Sick also proves my point. This music is awful, I mean no offense, but it is pedestrian, poorly constructed crap.

Edit: Oh, and flylead's cover of "Something I Can Never Have" nearly ruined a favorite of mine.

[Lock]

I'm So Sick also proves my point. This music is awful, I mean no offense, but it is pedestrian, poorly constructed crap.

Edit: Oh, and flylead's cover of "Something I Can Never Have" nearly ruined a favorite of mine.

Again you do not have to listen to it or download it. Any other concerns please ask but that should cover everything against the setlist in this thread.

As for the other setlists you guys have added I will look up the bands I have never listened to and give them a try. Also I will contact them via their webpage.

[Jacobs_Ladder]

I youtubed most of those bands and didn't like them. I still maintain that they are pedantic generic rock. Oh, and I won't download them, but I won't sit back and let it show up instead of something I like. If you cannot deffend it, thats not my fault.

For example, Demon Hunter's 1000 wishes. The intro guitar melody... I swear I have heard this same melody before in several different songs, it also doesn't help that the guitar tone is the same as many other songs with a conventional pop production. The chorus guitar is a common palm muted riff... Slightly reminiscent of tool, so I will let it slide since I really dig tool. Next, the vocals. Generic double tracking and harmonies, nothing impressive. Mundane pop there too. Finally, the drums (the bass isn't even worth mentioning). The drums are so lame I am left without words to describe it. That tambourine snare combo is so ever done its not even funny.

Oh, and that "ANGRY RAR KILL" bridge did nothing but make me laugh.

This is not good music plain and simple. I will not sit back and let you nominate it without objection.

[Lock]

I youtubed most of those bands and didn't like them. I still maintain that they are pedantic generic rock. Oh, and I won't download them, but I won't sit back and let it show up instead of something I like. If you cannot deffend it, thats not my fault.

For example, Demon Hunter's 1000 wishes. The intro guitar melody... I swear I have heard this same melody before in several different songs, it also doesn't help that the guitar tone is the same as many other songs with a conventional pop production. The chorus guitar is a common palm muted riff... Slightly reminiscent of tool, so I will let it slide since I really dig tool. Next, the vocals. Generic double tracking and harmonies, nothing impressive. Mundane pop there too. Finally, the drums (the bass isn't even worth mentioning). The drums are so lame I am left without words to describe it. That tambourine snare combo is so ever done its not even funny.

Oh, and that "ANGRY RAR KILL" bridge did nothing but make me laugh.

This is not good music plain and simple. I will not sit back and let you nominate it without objection.

OK not everyone is an audiophile like u. It does not have to be the best music in the world for someone to enjoy it. So you can decypher music, u are 1 in 50,000 and how many of ya'll own RB. I didn't buy it for crystal clear quality or fresh beats that aren't "lame"! I don't have to have perfect bass and guitar riffs that are always fresh.

I bought RB to rock w/ my kids and this is the music we listen to. So I am glad what u think about this music has no bearing on whether or not it will be in the game.

We are all requesting our ultimate setlist, hopefully u get urs and we get ours.

Chill!

[DirrtyBird]

This is not good music plain and simple. I will not sit back and let you nominate it without objection.

What isnt good music to you is good music to someone else. I could careless about Christian Rock (no offense) but if they did come out with a Christian Rock DLC, you dont have to download it.

[Lock]

What isnt good music to you is good music to someone else. I could careless about Christian Rock (no offense) but if they did come out with a Christian Rock DLC, you dont have to download it.

Preciate the help on this one, but he is only thinking of himself. We are not going to be able to do anything about that.

[Jacobs_Ladder]

I am not a particularly trollish individual, but this christian crap is making me into one. You can discuss this, but the fact that you feel you need at least 2 threads at a time means that I am going to attack it with everything I have. You are coming off as self important dorks, and I dislike self important dorks.


What isnt good music to you is good music to someone else. I could careless about Christian Rock (no offense) but if they did come out with a Christian Rock DLC, you dont have to download it.
I am tired of this bull. I have explained it before but I will do it again for those of you who are slow (and I will try to do it simply).

(A)If there is DLC I do not like, I do not have to download it. This is true

(B)However, there is only so much DLC HMX can make per week. This is also true.

(C) Because of B it can be infered that when HMX makes music I dislike DLC, those songs are taking "spots" that could be filled with music I do like.

(D) Because of C, A is not a relevant argument for me to be nice to a certain song or genre of music.

This is a subforum for suggestion and discussion of music that people would like to see in this game. If someone suggests music, they are also opening it to criticism. People have a right to criticize this music, because it could possibly take the place of music they like and they have every right to try and prevent that.


OK not everyone is an audiophile like u. It does not have to be the best music in the world for someone to enjoy it. So you can decypher music, u are 1 in 50,000 and how many of ya'll own RB. I didn't buy it for crystal clear quality or fresh beats that aren't "lame"! I don't have to have perfect bass and guitar riffs that are always fresh.

I bought RB to rock w/ my kids and this is the music we listen to. So I am glad what u think about this music has no bearing on whether or not it will be in the game.

We are all requesting our ultimate setlist, hopefully u get urs and we get ours.

Chill!
You have kids? I suspect you had them young because that post was painful to read. I do not mean to be an ass, but writing "u" instead of "you" just makes you look unintelligent and makes it hard for me to take you seriously. I am by no means perfect. My grammar is lacking and I my sentence structure is awful. But I at least make an effort in this semi-formal environment.


Ok, now enough correcting your internet etiquette.

Firstly, and Audiophile is not someone who can disect music, but someone who wants high fidelity music (not trying to be a jerk, just correcting you for future reference).

Second, I am not 1 in 50,000. That is a completely incorrect assessment, I am 1 in 10 at rarest.

Third, what I think does have a bearing on whether or not it gets in the game. The developers want to hear what the fan base thinks, so the fact that I am voicing my opinion here does matter.

Forth, I will not be nice to this music. Not because I hate it anymore than most of the other music people suggest, but because (as I stated above) the people in these threads have a sense of entitlement that makes me want to stress the oppositions POV.


Preciate the help on this one, but he is only thinking of himself. We are not going to be able to do anything about that.

Of course I am only thinking of myself. Thats what this subforum is for. What you want in the game. I do not want this music in the game, so I am stating it. I would much prefer some Tom Petty, Dax Riggs, Kyuss, or Jeff Buckley. So, guess what! I am gonna say that I dislike this artist and I prefer those artists.


Now, will the powers that be (be them god or mod) lock these threads, and make a rule only allowing 1 christian rock thread please.

[King_Nuthin]

Now, will the powers that be (be them god or mod) lock these threads, and make a rule only allowing 1 christian rock thread please.
Amen. How about locking them all up and a sticky stressing that music suggestions stick to the merits of bands and their songs and not whatever underlying religious theme or political message they are trying to express.

Of course "rally the troops" threads such as these "Contact your favorite *blank* artist" have nothing to do with the merits of the music and everything to do with a few people who think that Rock Band is another vehicle for spreading their particular cause. Why else would they think its a good idea to get the bands to essentially donate their music and release it at the lowest price point possible? I know if they picked my favorite obscure artists with less than universal appeal I'd pay top dollar, not expect a handout.

[DirrtyBird]

I am tired of this bull****. I have explained it before but I will do it again for those of you who are slow (and I will try to do it simply).

(A)If there is DLC I do not like, I do not have to download it. This is true

(B)However, there is only so much DLC HMX can make per week. This is also true.

(C) Because of B it can be infered that when HMX makes music I dislike DLC, those songs are taking "spots" that could be filled with music I do like.

(D) Because of C, A is not a relevant argument for me to be nice to a certain song or genre of music.

This is a subforum for suggestion and discussion of music that people would like to see in this game. If someone suggests music, they are also opening it to criticize. People have a right to criticize this music, because it could possibly take the place of music they like and they have every right to try and prevent that.


It is a sub-forum to talk about requests that people would like to see in Rock Band. What their "Ultimate Setlist" would be or what they would like to see in Rock Band. If someone requests Christian Rock then what gives you the right to say no it cant be in there because you do not like it or that you think this band should be in that spot instead? This is a place to make requests. Not to judge other people for what kind of music they listen to or to bash someone and tell them that there band isnt important enough to be in the game.

If HMX wants to put Christian Rock in Rock Band that is their call to make. Not yours. No one here should have the right to deny someone elses request to have their genre/band in this game. Only HMX can do that. If you do not like the thread then do not participate in it and stop trolling here.

Granted i do agree that the need for multiple threads about the same subject is not needed. One thread is needed to get the point across. Either way, i dont really like Christian Rock but i am not gonna tell someone, "No they can not have it in Rock Band" when it isnt my decision. I may not like a band but I am not going to jump in a thread and troll.

Bottom line, leave if you do not like this thread and let other people discuss Christian Rock bands and which ones they would like to see in Rock Band. All you are doing is becoming a troll.

[hmxsean]

Seriously too many of these threads. And it always denigrates into dumb name calling. keep it to one thread and for the love of god keep civil. Everyone.