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Gigas_Brigade
12-26-2007, 03:12 PM
I need tips on how to sing and guitar at the same time. How can you do this? Is there a spot on the screen you must focus on, is there a technique or anything? I want to learn how for solo band touring.

DrEvyl666
12-26-2007, 03:19 PM
You pretty much have to focus on guitar and memorize the vocal part, it's extremely difficult to pay attention to both scrolls at the same time, especially depending on how good you are at guitar, and how much you need to pay attention to the scroll. I can't watch the vocal scroll about 90% of the time.. So I sometimes miss stuff. You'll probably have to drop down the difficulty a little, also, because it is seriously hard to do them at the same time. And when the percussion parts come up, just ignore them.... you don't get score for them, but they also will not drop your power meter.

One thing I did that helped with the lyrics is to print them out on a piece of paper so I can look at them whenever instead of waiting for them to scroll up on the screen. I also play with the vocals on medium so that I can miss phrases without much worry.

I found it much easier to play drums and sing at the same time for a lot of songs... but your mileage may vary.

Here's a few videos if you wanna check out some dual instrument action..

In Bloom on Guitar & Vocals simultaneously (Guitar = hard, vocals = medium)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFJ_e1uxoHw

War Pigs on Guitar & Vocals simultaneously (both hard)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU8o1vaAAa0

Epic on Guitar & Vocals simultaneously (Guitar = hard, Vocals = medium)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvnzCzu6-GE

Frederf
12-26-2007, 04:34 PM
I've tried Guitar/Sing on a few songs.

1. It's easier to look at about the next 3-4 seconds of guitar chart coming down and then play from memory while your eyes take in the vocal chart.

2. The better you know the song vocally (like eyes closed), the better.

3. You can say "Pah" into the mic to hit the tambourine/cowbell parts.

I've done really good runs on like Creep and Say It Ain't so... but then again I've done the 4-song set list "Southern Rock" on guitar-expert and hard-vocals. I beat Run to the Hills... but it wasn't pretty.

stevea1210
12-26-2007, 10:19 PM
to add to this:
I also ignore any of the percussion parts. They don't detract from your score.

I suggest putting the lyrics into static mode when doing dual. It is more karaoke like, and makes it easier if you need to look at the lyrics.

If you don't REALLY know the song, you will struggle. I fail songs on dual that I can 95% or better solo. It depends on how well you know it from memory.

CowShark
12-26-2007, 11:43 PM
1st - Use the USB mic. Get a mic stand or rig something up so that you're using the USB mic and not a headset mic. Unless you've got your own sort of nice headset mic, the ones that come with your Xbox seem to have more inherent lag and don't register low and high notes as well as the USB one (in my experience).


You pretty much have to focus on guitar and memorize the vocal part, it's extremely difficult to pay attention to both scrolls at the same time, especially depending on how good you are at guitar, and how much you need to pay attention to the scroll.

This is way true, and based on this truth, I'd say to play through the vocal career at least once before you embark on your solo BWT. Maybe make a CD of songs you don't know at all, or stick 'em on your MP3 player. Stumbling over vocals will make you stumble over your guitar part which will kill your meter.

Also, if you're just chugging through BWT for achievement points or giggles, then you're probably not _too_ worried about setting high scores. If one of your parts has an overdrive pickup and the other doesn't (hell, if they've both got 'em at the same time) concentrate on one part and get the overdrive. It can come in handy for bailing yourself out if you get in a bind (Gimme Shelter, the end of Foreplay/Long Time, the entirety of Run to the Hills, the lunatic-kill-crazy second verse of I Get By).



I found it much easier to play drums and sing at the same time for a lot of songs... but your mileage may vary.

Bass + Singing 4 LIFE!

ThinkSoJoE
12-27-2007, 04:16 AM
I've been doing the bass & vocal thing, which is much easier in the higher difficulties than guitar and vocals. The people who have said that you're going to have an easier time if you know the lyrics are absolutely right, but if you at least have a general idea of how the melody of the vocals go, that'll help to, because if you forget the words, you can always just hum what you don't know. On higher difficulties I like to glance up from the bass line and make sure my vocals are on pitch at any chance that I get. It helps to have good peripheral vision if you're going to do that though, because then you at least have a general idea of what notes are coming.

WiseOldUnicorn
12-27-2007, 04:22 AM
I've found doing Hard/Hard bass and vocals really isn't all that bad with a bit of practice to get used to multitasking. Then again, I'd already beaten all the songs on solo vocals, and I've been playing guitar in GH long enough that playing guitar just kind of comes naturally and doesn't take a whole lot of thought.

My biggest tips:

1. Set it to static vocal style. It makes it a lot easier to read the lyrics.

2. Ignore the percussion parts. Like everyone's already said, they're just for bonus points--it won't penalize you for missing them. Take advantage of the break to get up a good streak and multiplier on your instrument.

3. Get a mic stand. It's way better and easier to use than just about any other method of holding the mic. (Take it from someone who used to shove the mic down her shirt before she got a mic stand for Christmas. :p)

4. Play through every song on vocals at least once. You pretty much need to at least know the melody. It's all right (for most songs) if you don't know the words--you can just hum if you get lost. (Epic and Sabotage being the major exceptions to that, of course.)