Spider Man 4 thread

[arniejolt]

The bad news is the film's still delayed while they work on the script.

With all the rumors and speculation about Sam Raimi's Spider-Man 4, whether or not it will make its scheduled May 5, 2011 release date and why it has run into production problems, it's come out in the wash that John Malkovich was indeed up for the role of the Vulture, Raimi's choice of villain for the fourth movie, which was first broken by Movieline a month ago.

Malkovich was interviewed by an Italian sports show called "Quelli Che il Calcio" and he was asked not only about whether he had been approached to play the Vulture but also about the production delays. The fine folks at the Italian web site Bad Taste have graciously provided an English summation of what was said on the show:

"When conductor Simona Ventura asked him about his role of Vulture in the movie, he not only didn't deny his involvement, but confirmed that he's waiting for the final script to be sent to him, and that the movie has been delayed. He also hopes that shooting will begin as soon as possible."

Some may remember that Malkovich was the alternate choice to play the Green Goblin in the first "Spider-Man" movie, a role that went to his Shadow of the Vampire co-star Willem Dafoe, so it has always made perfect sense that Raimi would be interested in him to play a Spidey villain. The question is whether Sony will agree to the lesser Spider-Man villain for such an important tentpole franchise.

We're hoping a clip of Malkovich's appearance will appear online soon, but if you're fluent in Italian, you can read the full transcript of Malkovich's appearance in Italian on BadTaste.it.

From comingsoon.net:
http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62262

[The Highway To Hell]

This is not good to me. I don't like the Vulture at all.

[CyanFunk]

Here's hoping they'll do two villains again. Really, we've got the Lizard and Carnage set up, why not use them?

[Skittles]

I also heard Anne Hathaway is rumored to play Vulturess..

[monkeyfish]

I vote Vulture and Man-wolf. Let the casual fans go, "Who the hell are these guys?"

[Gowienczyk]

Here's hoping they'll do two villains again. Really, we've got the Lizard and Carnage set up, why not use them?

Because it's too soon for Carnage.

[Lawdog1521]

I want Tombstone. Both the villian and the pizza.

[Kariodude]

I also heard Anne Hathaway is rumored to play Vulturess..

The rumor I read was she is going to be Black Cat.

As for Carnage, that isn't going to happen. Sam Raimi didn't even want Venom in the last one but it was forced on him. Best bet is to have the Lizard with the Vulture.

[ledbowman]

Dylan Baker as The Lizard.

The Rock as Kraven the Hunter.

Movie.

[kiggidykev]

The Vulture has always been my least-favourite Spidey villain. Yeah, I even like Shocker more than him. He's an old man that dresses like a bird and hasn't done anything remotely interesting or menacing, aside from get his nose broken by the underground fighters in Civil War.

As I mentioned in the other Spidey 4 thread, they're going to have to do something really big to make the Vulture seem cool or worth caring about, because he's such a dud plotwise.

[bmaninc]

I agree with the Rock as the guy who says Calypso all the tim.

[FloodOne]

The Vulture is a turd villain.

Even the mighty John Malkovich can't make the Vulture cool.

[instantdeath999]

I think they should just let him be creative and do what he wants. Sure, the vulture doesn't have any powers and the "power" he created isn't as cool as Dr. Octopus, but it could be interesting, especially since I think the Vulture is an old man. Corny one liners ahoy.

[DrumStix]

*sigh*

/facepalm

Vulture sucks. Why not Carnage or Lizard? This is bull****...

[hmxhenry]

The Vulture is a turd villain.

Even the mighty John Malkovich can't make the Vulture cool.

Respectfully disagreed!

The Vulture is one of those classic Spidey villains that's all character. I don't care about the powers if it means they don't need to waste time on an origin story and can get right to the part where John Malkovich flies around Manhattan smashing Spidey into buildings.

Spidey has always been a title that focused on character and personality first and "cool" powers second. I think that's why the first two movies succeeded emotionally where the third really fell flat and just ended up being a mess of special effects.

And if they play up the angle of vulture as a bank robber and that opens the door for Black Cat then I'm all for that. And using Doc Conners as the Lizard would be a great pay off for the build up in these first three movies. Maybe they're more mundane villains powers wise but they're great tragic characters and I'd love to see Raimi's take on their story.

[SteveoKnievo]

Dylan Baker as The Lizard.

The Rock as Kraven the Hunter.

Movie.

This.

Rhino would be good too.

[RockBandRocker]

Respectfully disagreed!

The Vulture is one of those classic Spidey villains that's all character. I don't care about the powers if it means they don't need to waste time on an origin story and can get right to the part where John Malkovich flies around Manhattan smashing Spidey into buildings.

Spidey has always been a title that focused on character and personality first and "cool" powers second. I think that's why the first two movies succeeded emotionally where the third really fell flat and just ended up being a mess of special effects.

And if they play up the angle of vulture as a bank robber and that opens the door for Black Cat then I'm all for that. And using Doc Conners as the Lizard would be a great pay off for the build up in these first three movies. Maybe they're more mundane villains powers wise but they're great tragic characters and I'd love to see Raimi's take on their story.

The man with the Dr. Doom avatar speaks wisdom!

[Awesomedude116]

Seriously this sucks vulture is an old fart who doesn't really do anything except fly. You know what they could have done, at the end of Spider-man 3 when Spider-man threw the bomb into the ooze part of it shouldn't be destroyed and it should've gone on Carnage. And I think the lizard would be cool to see.

[BevoTheWarrior]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315

[instantdeath999]

Respectfully disagreed!

The Vulture is one of those classic Spidey villains that's all character. I don't care about the powers if it means they don't need to waste time on an origin story and can get right to the part where John Malkovich flies around Manhattan smashing Spidey into buildings.

Spidey has always been a title that focused on character and personality first and "cool" powers second. I think that's why the first two movies succeeded emotionally where the third really fell flat and just ended up being a mess of special effects.

And if they play up the angle of vulture as a bank robber and that opens the door for Black Cat then I'm all for that. And using Doc Conners as the Lizard would be a great pay off for the build up in these first three movies. Maybe they're more mundane villains powers wise but they're great tragic characters and I'd love to see Raimi's take on their story.

You make a really good point, actually. I don't think people realize that a movie about Carnage really wouldn't be that interesting... unless they just want two hours of fighting, which really doesn't stick with the theme this movie series follows. I was amazed at what Raimi did with Dr. Octopus, so maybe he'll do it again with Vulture. Hopefully they don't force him into bringing Venom back or whatever, especially since he's getting his own movie.


I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315

Seems like a waste of time.

[Gowienczyk]

And if they play up the angle of vulture as a bank robber and that opens the door for Black Cat then I'm all for that.

Michael Clarke Duncan reprising his role as Kingpin would mold this idea all perfectly.

[svartikins]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315

Beat me to it.

So, yeah. Reboot.

Sony broke the chain. It's supposed to be a fourth movie and THEN reboot.

I think this means more Spidey 3 quality movies as opposed to Spidey 1 and 2 quality movies.

Hopefully it DOESN'T mean ANOTHER movie with the origin story, Green Goblin, Gwen Stacy, etc. etc. etc.

[The Highway To Hell]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315I think we know what this means


*cough* Avengers *cough*

[Skittles]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315
I think they should just leave it alone

[The Highway To Hell]

Michael Clarke Duncan reprising his role as Kingpin would mold this idea all perfectly.He did a great job in Dardevil. I still think I'm the only person that enjoyed that movie.

[RockBandRocker]

I LOVED "Spider-Man" and "Spider-Man 2", but "Spider-Man 3" made me groan in disappointment.


Hopefully Marvel will have more say in the rebooted series. Done right, the "Spider-Man" series would be quite excellent. I thought it was heading in the right direction, but "3" really screwed the pooch.

[RockBandRocker]

He did a great job in Dardevil. I still think I'm the only person that enjoyed that movie.

You aren't alone.

[CyanFunk]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315
To include Spidey in the Avengers, no doubt. I hope they just condense the origin into some quick opening scenes like in Hulk.

Also, the Kingpin would be perfect in a Man Behind the Man scenario.

[Pwnz0r3d]

In my eyes, i dont see anyone who could look like Peter Parker as much as Tobey Maguire

[Gowienczyk]

In my eyes, i dont see anyone who could look like Peter Parker as much as Tobey Maguire

Shame he can't play the part very well then, eh?

[RockBandRocker]

In my eyes, i dont see anyone who could look like Peter Parker as much as Tobey Maguire

*cough* Topher Grace *cough*

[Pwnz0r3d]

I dont even want to say his name.

He murdered Venom.

Murdered.

[back_blows]

Michael Clarke Duncan reprising his role as Kingpin would mold this idea all perfectly.

Don't remind me of that god-awful film.

[instantdeath999]

Shame he can't play the part very well then, eh?

He was pretty good in Spider Man 2, IMO.

[RockBandRocker]

I dont even want to say his name.

He murdered Venom.

Murdered.

What murdered Venom was a god-awful script and a mis-treatment by the director.

[Gowienczyk]

He was pretty good in Spider Man 2, IMO.

Not as spiderman, he wasn't.

[instantdeath999]

Not as spiderman, he wasn't.

Depends on what kind of spiderman you're looking for. He doesn't really fit the character that's in the first 50 issues or so (which is all that I've read), but then again, Raimi decided not to include the webshooters either. I actually think there were only two or three bad jokes across all three films. I guess Raimi was looking for a different kind of protagonist.

Well, regardless, I thought Tobey was at the very least believable in the first two films (but I haven't seen them in a long time, either).

[FloodOne]

Respectfully disagreed!

The Vulture is one of those classic Spidey villains that's all character. I don't care about the powers if it means they don't need to waste time on an origin story and can get right to the part where John Malkovich flies around Manhattan smashing Spidey into buildings.

Spidey has always been a title that focused on character and personality first and "cool" powers second. I think that's why the first two movies succeeded emotionally where the third really fell flat and just ended up being a mess of special effects.

And if they play up the angle of vulture as a bank robber and that opens the door for Black Cat then I'm all for that. And using Doc Conners as the Lizard would be a great pay off for the build up in these first three movies. Maybe they're more mundane villains powers wise but they're great tragic characters and I'd love to see Raimi's take on their story.

I would love to see the Lizard.

I just think that the Vulture is a bland character. He's some rich old coot obsessed with becoming young again.

I would maintain that if they used Carnage, and gave the movie a very big thriller vibe, it could be great. Maybe a look at Spidey feeling helpless against a villain who has no motive, just an insatiable desire to kill.

Cassidy was a serial killer after all, play that up and make it a very suspenseful movie. Not every superhero movie has to be fight scenes and explosions. Look at Watchmen.

The fight scenes would be epic too though, and I would gladly welcome them.

[Gowienczyk]

I actually think there were only two or three bad jokes across all three films.

Exactly why he's a bad spiderman.

[ham736]

just found this.

http://io9.com/5445808/spider+man-going-back-to-high-school-raimis-spider+man-4-officially-scrapped

sorry if it has already been posted

[instantdeath999]

Exactly why he's a bad spiderman.

Ha, good point. I do personally prefer organic web shooters, though. Never liked the idea that he invented his webbing.

One little thing from the comics I think they missed out on is using Flash as a comic relief character. In the movie, he was just some meathead jerk who was used to show how badass Peter's powers made him. In the comics, I thought he was hilariously douchey.

[Gowienczyk]

Never liked the idea that he invented his webbing.

Well, Peter Parker is supposed to be a genius in the fields of chemistry and psychics.

[instantdeath999]

Well, Peter Parker is supposed to be a genius in the fields of chemistry and psychics.

Sure... but the idea that he is capable of inventing technology the military can't even come close to... that's too unreal even for a comic book :p. Wouldn't work too well in a movie, I don't think.

[RockBandRocker]

Even with "4" being a bust, I hope Marvel does use Vulture eventually in their re-boot and cast Malkovich. He's the one person who I think could do Vulture any justice.

Honestly, I hope that they learn from the highs (and lows) of the other 3.

Since there is probably going to be re-use of villains, I pray that if they are going to have Green Goblin and Doc Ock again, they cast Willem Dafoe and Alfred Molina (respectively).

[Gowienczyk]

Spiderman is smarter than the military, though!

[CyanFunk]

Spiderman is smarter than the military, though!

They're essentially lead by Tony Stark, thus being smarter than the military in Marvel not all that hard.

[DrumStix]

I think Vulture would be an awesome villain but it looks like it doesn't matter anymore. Apparently they're scrapping Spider-Man 4 and starting over with a new cast and crew.

http://www.comingsoon.net/news/movienews.php?id=62315

Goddammit...

[ultimatespidey81]

if the new spidey movie franchise is molded after the "Ultimate Spider-Man" comic then im pretty happy that the re-boot is underway. new green goblin, then bring on the kingpin!!

[DrumStix]

if the new spidey movie franchise is molded after the "Ultimate Spider-Man" comic then im pretty happy that the re-boot is underway. bring on the Kingpin!!

Meh...Kingpin was already in Daredevil.

I'd rather have someone that hasn't been used as a villain yet.

Rhino? Cool.
Scorpion? Awesome.
Kraven? Brilliant.
Electro? Spectacular. (No pun intended.)

But Vulture? No no no no no no no no no no no no.

[ultimatespidey81]

Meh...Kingpin was already in Daredevil.


i deny that a daredevil movie was ever made :D

[Banky71]

Mysterio and Kraven.

[Lawdog1521]

Mysterio and Kraven.

Ray and Wes?

[DrumStix]

i deny that a daredevil movie was ever made :D

/sarcasm detector has found you out ;)

[ultimatespidey81]

Mysterio and Kraven.

mysterio, electro or scorpion will do just fine. never was a fan of kraven.

[Banky71]

Ray and Wes?

Of course who else would I be talking about?

[Lawdog1521]

Of course who else would I be talking about?

That would be kind of an odd tag team. I'm ot sure what Wes would bring to the table, unless he could make his movies become real or something.

[Banky71]

That would be kind of an odd tag team. I'm ot sure what Wes would bring to the table, unless he could make his movies become real or something.

HAHA that's a good one. Trying to convince me movies are fake. HAHA that's rich.

[DeadPhoenix223]

Why can't Carnage be a main bad guy again?
And what about Hobgoblin? Too repetitive?

[Banky71]

Why can't Carnage be a main bad guy again?
And what about Hobgoblin? Too repetitive?

When was Carnage the main bad guy?

[ultimatespidey81]

Why can't Carnage be a main bad guy again?
And what about Hobgoblin? Too repetitive?

carnage no. hobgoblin i would really like. but with the re-boot of the franchise, both of these characters will be on the back burner.

[Gowienczyk]

When was Carnage the main bad guy?
Maximum Carnage
Separation Anxiety

[Banky71]

Maximum Carnage
Separation Anxiety

What movies are those?

[Gowienczyk]

What movies are those?

They are video games. :p

[DeadPhoenix223]

When was Carnage the main bad guy?

I meant A main bad guy.


carnage no. hobgoblin i would really like. but with the re-boot of the franchise, both of these characters will be on the back burner.

I would love Hobgoblin, but they kind of ruined it with that New Goblin crap.

[Banky71]

They are video games. :p

Ahh I haven't played the. I have read almost every Spider-man comic ever and I know they are storylines.

Cletus Kasady was pretty cutting edge when he first appeared but he really is just a Venom reboot.

I always wanted A Kraven storyline in the movies where he brings back the Green Goblin from the dead in the movies.

[californication]

I wish Marvel Studios could make the movies instead of Sony. They made the Hulk and Iron Man movies and actually have respect for the old stories.

[BevoTheWarrior]

I wish Marvel Studios could make the movies instead of Sony. They made the Hulk and Iron Man movies and actually have respect for the old stories.

Agreed. I'd feel much better about this reboot if it were at Marvel Studios.

[Der_Lex]

Mysterio and Kraven.

Both would be a bit much and wouldn't gel well in terms of atmosphere (Kraven is a much darker villain in mood and theme than Mysterio), but I'd be happy with either of those two.

The nice thing about a reboot is that they can re-cast the leads. Let's hope they do a better job than when they cast McGuire and Snaggletooth.

[Banky71]

Both would be a bit much and wouldn't gel well in terms of atmosphere (Kraven is a much darker villain in mood and theme than Mysterio), but I'd be happy with either of those two.

The nice thing about a reboot is that they can re-cast the leads. Let's hope they do a better job than when they cast McGuire and Snaggletooth.

The circus comes to Coney Island but all is not right! Kraven is the animal keeper and Mysterio is a magician/ringmaster! chaos insues!

[instantdeath999]

The nice thing about a reboot is that they can re-cast the leads. Let's hope they do a better job than when they cast McGuire and Snaggletooth.

What's a snaggletooth? :D

[DrumStix]

What's a snaggletooth? :D

Someone with a large tooth that flys loose when they talk...I think.

[Der_Lex]

Snaggletooth is the horrific beast that they cast as MJ. :D

[BevoTheWarrior]

Snaggletooth is the horrific beast that they cast as MJ. :D

And getting rid of Dunst as MJ is the silver lining to this reboot. She was a weak link from the very beginning.

[Banky71]

Snaggletooth is the horrific beast that they cast as MJ. :D

I don't have a snaggle tooth! I had braces as a kid. BRACES!!!

[RockBandRocker]

The only good thing Kirsten Dunst ever did (and will ever do) is "Interview With The Vampire".

[OGGhostguy]

Thank God for a reboot...that last movie nearly killed the entire franchise.

[Der_Lex]

The only actor I hope they'll keep on is JK Simmons. That man defines JJJ. "I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel. "

[RockBandRocker]

Thank God for a reboot...that last movie nearly killed the entire franchise.

Technically, it did! :D

[RockBandRocker]

The only actor I hope they'll keep on is JK Simmons. That man defines JJJ. "I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel. "

I agree, but add Willem Dafoe & Alfred Molina to that roster. :D

[ultimatespidey81]

The only actor I hope they'll keep on is JK Simmons. That man defines JJJ. "I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel. "

he really was born to play that part.

i hope they will end up using the ultimate spider-man comic as the source material. bendis' interpretation of the web head is pretty freakin sweet.

[Banky71]

Rosemary Harris is a great Aunt May! :mad:

[justin19954]

Technically, it did! :D

http://www.instantrimshot.com/

[ultimatespidey81]

Rosemary Harris is a great Aunt May! :mad:

she is but if they are going to go with a teenaged peter parker, lets have a decent looking, 40-something aunt may :D

[Der_Lex]

Rosemary Harris is a great Aunt May! :mad:

Also true!

Come to think of it, every single character in those movies was well cast except for the two main characters. I even liked Topher Grace as Eddie Brock, if you keep in mind he was more based on the Ultimate version of the character.

[Banky71]

BMB on Spidey Reboot! (http://twitter.com/BRIANMBENDIS)

[instantdeath999]

Snaggletooth is the horrific beast that they cast as MJ. :D

Hah, the only other movies I've seen with her in it were her as a child actor... Jumanji and Small Soldiers.


The only actor I hope they'll keep on is JK Simmons. That man defines JJJ. "I resent that. Slander is spoken. In print, it's libel. "

Very true. I thought the casting was very good, honestly, with the exception of MJ, and even that didn't really bother me. Tobey was okay, and played his role well in Spiderman 2 (IMO), but lacked any kinda bad humor.

[RockBandRocker]

Also true!

Come to think of it, every single character in those movies was well cast except for the two main characters. I even liked Topher Grace as Eddie Brock, if you keep in mind he was more based on the Ultimate version of the character.

I thought I was the only one.

For me, his semi-resemblance to Tobey Maguire made believing in the symbiotic nature of Venom to Spider-Man a little easier.

[Banky71]

I think Topher Grace should have played Doppelgänger.

[DrumStix]

Does anyone think the new Mary Jane should be played by Justis Bolding? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1220330/)

[ultimatespidey81]

Does anyone think the new Mary Jane should be played by Justis Bolding? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1220330/)

no i do not.

[Starfleet_Rambo]

Does anyone think the new Mary Jane should be played by Justis Bolding? (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm1220330/)

I'll be happy as long as it's not Kirsten Dunst ever again.

[DrumStix]

I'll be happy as long as it's not Kirsten Dunst ever again.

Amen to that, brother.

[monkeyfish]

Hollywood is going to deliver:

Starring HAYLEY WILLIAMS as Mary Jane!

[RockBandRocker]

What is everyone's fascination with Mary Jane?

I thought Gwen Stacy was Spider-Man's true love interest.

[FloodOne]

Also true!

Come to think of it, every single character in those movies was well cast except for the two main characters. I even liked Topher Grace as Eddie Brock, if you keep in mind he was more based on the Ultimate version of the character.

I thought Grace was a victim of poor writing and studio interference.

The one good thing 3 got right was that Venom looked more like the Todd McFarlane design, albeit a slimmer version.

I hate the Venom who looks all roided out and has a two foot tongue. That **** is just stupid.

[DrumStix]

What is everyone's fascination with Mary Jane?

I thought Gwen Stacy was Spider-Man's true love interest.

She was, but you see, 'Ol Peter Parker was a pimp. I kid...I kid...

But, to answer your question, because Mary Jane is hot.

[Baanu_Rass]

What is everyone's fascination with Mary Jane?

I thought Gwen Stacy was Spider-Man's true love interest.

Yeah, they should do that story. You know the one. (http://www.spidervillain.com/SpiderManCovers/Amazing/ASM121/Page4.jpg) One of the few comic book characters to ever stay dead.

[RockBandRocker]

Yeah, they should do that story. You know the one. (http://www.spidervillain.com/SpiderManCovers/Amazing/ASM121/Page4.jpg) One of the few comic book characters to ever stay dead.

That's because we actually saw a corpse. :D:p;)

[Baanu_Rass]

We saw Captain America, Superman and Jean Grey's corpses but they came back. Others two but I don't want to make a list.

[RockBandRocker]

We saw Captain America, Superman and Jean Grey's corpses but they came back. Others two but I don't want to make a list.

But those are different cases. Gwen Stacy was a normal human. :D

[jayou521]

So I just found out they're gonna do a reboot of the franchise instead~

At least Sam Raimi can focus on other film projects now~

[DrumStix]

So I just found out they're gonna do a reboot of the franchise instead~

At least Sam Raimi can focus on other film projects now~

At least Raimi isn't directing.

Hell, he was the reason the thing crash-landed.

[ultimatespidey81]

So I just found out they're gonna do a reboot of the franchise instead~

At least Sam Raimi can focus on other film projects now~

he sure can but i doubt he will ever have the reigns of a project as big as spider-man. but good luck to him.

[Baanu_Rass]

But those are different cases. Gwen Stacy was a normal human. :D

I think normals have it tougher. Magik was a mutant who could travel through time and cast magic. However, she died as a normal human. Her brother died and came back while she was dead. She even has powers that make her coming back very easy. It took them more than 15 years to bring her back. Now that's just crazy but is a sign of how baseline humans get the screw job.

[Fennz]

I'm kind of disappointed the next spiderman will be a reboot. The first 3 were great, good casting, writing (spidey 3, ehhhhh). However, could it actually be better than the originals like batman? We'll see.

[Mex]

I don't think we should be planning the parade just yet. You guys realise this reboot could be a complete disaster right?

JK Simmons back as JJJ?
What's her face as Aunt May?

Nooooo my friends. Those people are most likely gone from the franchise forever.

Besides, if this reboot is focusing on his high school years, would JJJ even be in the storyline?

[Gowienczyk]

Besides, if this reboot is focusing on his high school years, would JJJ even be in the storyline?

It's possible, but not likely.

[Der_Lex]

Besides, if this reboot is focusing on his high school years, would JJJ even be in the storyline?

Since Peter started out as a freelancer/intern of sorts at the Bugle during his teen years, why wouldn't he be?

[Mex]

It's possible, but not likely.


Since Peter started out as a freelancer/intern of sorts at the Bugle during his teen years, why wouldn't he be?

That's why I'm asking you guys. You know alot more than I do about it. I THOUGHT that he didn't end up at the Bugle until after highschool.

[Gowienczyk]

I THOUGHT that he didn't end up at the Bugle until after highschool.

lrn2spiderman

[Mex]

lrn2spiderman

tchme2spidermanplz

[Gowienczyk]

Heck, I'm not even that much of a comics follower either. All the spiderman stuff I've learned is from the amazing 90s animated series, a few comics and every spiderman video game ever.

[Mex]

Ahh ok. Well if any Spidey experts want to chime in, please do!

[Banky71]

Peter Parker worked at the Bugle in Amazing Spider-man #1. JJ's first appearance was in this issue. So yes he did know JJ while he was in High School.

[Mex]

Sweeeeet. Thanks Banky.

I guess they can go that route and have JJJ in the reboot. Wouldn't count on JK Simmons though. We can hope

[Banky71]

Aaaaaaand I'm a dork.

[back_blows]

Put a little shoe polish in his hair, and Simmons is good to go.

[MPPMike]

Ugh. Sony is trying to remake the Spider-Man franchise in the image of Twilight. I suppose it fits the roots of the comic series. It was intended as a book to appeal to teens, featuring a high school kid with ordinary problems and extraordinary abilities. I guess I'll try to withhold judgment for now. The superhero genre was really getting overcrowded for 2011, so maybe it's for the best.

Since I bought up Twilight, I could see Ashley Greene as MJ. Honestly no idea if she can act (I haven't seen Twilight or New Moon), but she looks the part. Can't be worse than Kirsten, right?

Very sad to miss out on more Tobey Maguire though.

[DrumStix]

Ahh ok. Well if any Spidey experts want to chime in, please do!

I'm one! I'm one! :D :D :D :D

To answer your question, Peter wanted to earn some cash after the death of his beloved Uncle Ben, so he noticed a Daily Bugle ad in the paper, and decided to drop by the place for a job.

JJJ told him that he is wanting pics of Spider-Man for him to win the job, so he goes and does his "spidey" thing, and, well, there you have it.

So, J Jonah could be in the new SM movie, but we'll have to wait for details...

[instantdeath999]

We saw Captain America, Superman and Jean Grey's corpses but they came back. Others two but I don't want to make a list.

How did those work out? How the hell can the most overpowered fictional person ever be killed?

[Baanu_Rass]

How did those work out? How the hell can the most overpowered fictional person ever be killed?

A sniper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Captain_America), Doomsday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_superman) and suicide/Magneto caused stroke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Grey). Of them only Jean Grey's death stuck for any good period of time (6/6+ years for each).

[Der_Lex]

The sad part with Jean is that you have to ask 'which death'?

Then again, she was called Phoenix, so multiple deaths and rebirths shouldn't be that surprising...

[instantdeath999]

A sniper (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_Captain_America), Doomsday (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Death_of_superman) and suicide/Magneto caused stroke (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jean_Grey). Of them only Jean Grey's death stuck for any good period of time (6/6+ years for each).

I thought part of Supermans whole approach was that he was indestructible, which seemed like it made for a lousy protagonist. That actually looks interesting.

[Gowienczyk]

I thought part of Supermans whole approach was that he was indestructible, which seemed like it made for a lousy protagonist. That actually looks interesting.

From what I've heard, it sounds pretty kewl.

[Der_Lex]

I wish Henry would slum in these kind of threads more often. His comic book knowledge probably puts us all to shame.

[instantdeath999]

I wish Henry would slum in these kind of threads more often. His comic book knowledge probably puts us all to shame.

I find the image of stereotypical comic book fan (comic book guy) and a stereotypical punk rocker hybrid funny to think about. That would be Henry :)

Comic book guy with a mohawk and leather jacket? God, I wish I could photoshop.

[Der_Lex]

I find the image of stereotypical comic book fan (comic book guy) and a stereotypical punk rocker hybrid funny to think about. That would be Henry :)

And when you combine the two, you apparently get a sweetheart of a guy who looks like an accountant. ;)

[Starfleet_Rambo]

Great. With this re-boot, it'll be forever for Carnage to be ruined on screen!

[Lawdog1521]

I wish Henry would slum in these kind of threads more often. His comic book knowledge probably puts us all to shame.

I bet he's actually bought a pair of those X-ray glasses that you can send away for that's in every issue. :p


(Of course that may not be around anymore and just shows how old I am.)

[Der_Lex]

I bet he's actually bought a pair of those X-ray glasses that you can send away for that's in every issue. :p


(Of course that may not be around anymore and just shows how old I am.)

Those kind of ads were around for a long time. I even remember them being in some of the US comics I read as a kid, and I'm not that old. (or so I like to tell myself)

They never had any ads in the Dutch versions of the comics, though, not even in the oldest ones I've read (which would be the Dutch releases of X-Men #3 and The Amazing Spider-Man #14, both from 1964 and lovingly saved by my uncle all those years). The lack of ads and the generally high quality of the translations made even a purist like me think twice about switching to the original US comics. :D

[Mex]

Those kind of ads were around for a long time. I even remember them being in some of the US comics I read as a kid, and I'm not that old. (or so I like to tell myself)

They never had any ads in the Dutch versions of the comics, though, not even in the oldest ones I've read (which would be the Dutch releases of X-Men #3 and The Amazing Spider-Man #14, both from 1964 and lovingly saved by my uncle all those years). The lack of ads and the generally high quality of the translations made even a purist like me think twice about switching to the original US comics. :D

You know it just occurred to me to ask. Have you been speaking English since you were a child??

[Der_Lex]

You know it just occurred to me to ask. Have you been speaking English since you were a child??

I was a bit of a child prodigy, to be honest. I taught myself to read when I was 3, and had taught myself English by age 5 (first by watching TV, then by reading books). Pretty scary stuff. Skipped a grade because of that too (could have skipped several, but my parents were afraid that would put me at too much of a disadvantage as far as developing social skills was concerned. Good call).

As most child prodigies will be able to tell you, though, something like that is only a head start, and the rest of the world more or less catches up with you as you grow older. I was a good student in college, but not one of the best. That might have had something to do with me being extremely lazy too, though. :D

Still, I got being close to perfectly bilingual out of the whole thing, which is nice.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Ugh. Now a friend is trying to say that Peter Parker was "emo" in Spider-Man 3. Is he right, or wrong?

[Lawdog1521]

Ugh. Now a friend is trying to say that Peter Parker was "emo" in Spider-Man 3. Is he right, or wrong?

No.


So absurd it didn't even get a sarcastic comment.

[citric_bullets]

He was right. Petey went emo-douchebag. He was more of a jerk than Topher Grace's pathetic Eddie Brock, who was actually supposed to be a jerk.

I'm just wondering if this "high school reboot" of the franchise is going to go over the origin story again or what. It's just that the first movie came out only 8 years ago so the origin is fresh in our minds still, so telling the origin again would essentially be a waste of time. While at the same time, if they're going to reboot with a new cast, it doesn't really make sense to skip the origin. It would basically be a reboot that still uses the first thirty minutes of '02's Spider-Man before actually diverting.

[Baanu_Rass]

Ugh. Now a friend is trying to say that Peter Parker was "emo" in Spider-Man 3. Is he right, or wrong?

Not emo but "emo". Ya get me?

And as for the whole Henry thing, I bet he bought one of those "Become a real man" kits and it only half took. Thus he was left with the knowledge of a geek and the attitude of a punk rocker.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

No.


So absurd it didn't even get a sarcastic comment.


Not emo but "emo". Ya get me?

Yeah that's what I thought. He was trying to say he was emo because of his hair and his clothes. He was more Selfish than anything during that one part of Spider-Man 3.

[BevoTheWarrior]

That was one of the things my friends and I were ripping on when we first saw Spider-Man 3. Peter Park didn't go evil, he just went emo and he couldn't even get that right.

[Kariodude]

Rebooting a series that's been dead in the water for a long period of time makes sense. (Batman)

Rebooting a series because the lead cast member and director left is a terrible idea. It will just disorient people. It doesn't matter if all of the news outlets report that it will be a reboot and that the cast will change, people will still come out of it comparing it to the last 3 movies. When people went to see Batman Begins, they didn't even compare it to the older Batman movies. Partly because it was so different it was hard to make a comparison but also partly because it had been 8 years since another Batman movie.

I just can't find a perspective that makes this look like a good idea.

[Mex]

I was a bit of a child prodigy, to be honest. I taught myself to read when I was 3, and had taught myself English by age 5 (first by watching TV, then by reading books). Pretty scary stuff. Skipped a grade because of that too (could have skipped several, but my parents were afraid that would put me at too much of a disadvantage as far as developing social skills was concerned. Good call).

As most child prodigies will be able to tell you, though, something like that is only a head start, and the rest of the world more or less catches up with you as you grow older. I was a good student in college, but not one of the best. That might have had something to do with me being extremely lazy too, though. :D

Still, I got being close to perfectly bilingual out of the whole thing, which is nice.

Ok smartypants ;)

It occurred to me to ask because I was wondering if you preferred the English versions of American media when you were a kid over the translations. Since you could speak English at such a young age you would have had the choice ya?


He was right. Petey went emo-douchebag. He was more of a jerk than Topher Grace's pathetic Eddie Brock, who was actually supposed to be a jerk.

I'm just wondering if this "high school reboot" of the franchise is going to go over the origin story again or what. It's just that the first movie came out only 8 years ago so the origin is fresh in our minds still, so telling the origin again would essentially be a waste of time. While at the same time, if they're going to reboot with a new cast, it doesn't really make sense to skip the origin. It would basically be a reboot that still uses the first thirty minutes of '02's Spider-Man before actually diverting.


I'm thinking that too. Like, "oh we're in highschool again? Wait weren't we just there? Didn't he just graduate and move to the city?".

[Oscar-Rio]

Regarding the new info on the reboot; poor choice, IMO. This will totally isolate all the Spider-Man fans who aren't in high school. The audience had very little problems identifying with Spidey in the first and second movies which is why they were decent movie flicks. Before I wasn't sure if I was even going to see Spider-Man 4, but now I know for sure I won't be seeing this new one.

Obvious marketing ploy is obvious.

[bermuddy]

maybe they're going to do ultimate spiderman? that would make more sense.

[instantdeath999]

I don't think putting the movie in a high school setting will be that bad, if they make Flash Thompson as likable as he is in the comics.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

My comment about "Emo" PP in Spider-Man 3. Here's an update. He's pretty much convinced that he's emo in that part of the movie. He's pretty much being stubborn about it and won't accept the fact that he wasn't emo. He was a selfish guy who had blackish blue hair and black clothes. Oh wait, that right there automatically says he's emo, right? (That last sentence was sarcasm, FYI). :p

[Mex]

I think you're a little fixated on the emo think Burntzy.

[BuRn7 CaK3]

Yeah, I definitely am. It's just a little irritating.

[BevoTheWarrior]

You know what's frustrating? Throwing away John Malkovich as Vulture.

[HeyRiles]

My comment about "Emo" PP in Spider-Man 3. Here's an update. He's pretty much convinced that he's emo in that part of the movie. He's pretty much being stubborn about it and won't accept the fact that he wasn't emo. He was a selfish guy who had blackish blue hair and black clothes. Oh wait, that right there automatically says he's emo, right? (That last sentence was sarcasm, FYI). :p

It was supposed to signify that he was turning evil...

...Which is what made the scene astoundingly bad, because the director couldn't think of a better way to convey the evil taking over Peter

[BuRn7 CaK3]

It was supposed to signify that he was turning evil...

Yeah. I know that. Peter Parker was being more selfish and wearing darker clothing because of the evilness. The problem is, he (the friend of mine) still thinks he's emo and it seems that nothing is going to change his mind.

[ThunderCurls]

Apparently when you're evil you wear black clothes and dance in bars.

[BevoTheWarrior]

Apparently when you're evil you wear black clothes and dance in bars.

To jazz. :rolleyes:

[DrumStix]

To jazz. :rolleyes:

...And purposely dance with another woman in front of your girlfriend. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

[ThunderCurls]

I really don't think there would be any other way to convey the evilness of Toby Maguire without making him look like a nancy boy jerk.

[DrumStix]

I really don't think there would be any other way to convey the evilness of Toby Maguire without making him look like a nancy boy jerk.

Well, he is.

[ThunderCurls]

Well, he is.

It's like how they tried to make Elijah Wood look some kind of badass in Green Street Hooligans....just cannot be done.

[DrumStix]

It's like how they tried to make Elijah Wood look some kind of badass in Green Street Hooligans....just cannot be done.

Exxxxaaacctlllyy.

I officialy would like to say...

Replace Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spiderman.

[BevoTheWarrior]

Replace Tobey Maguire as Peter Parker/Spiderman.

Done and done. And incase you all haven't heard, Marc Webb - the director of "(500) Days of Summer" and countless music videos - is the frontrunner for the directing gig on the new Spider-Man. I've been a fan of Webb's since I first saw AFI's video for "Days of the Phoenix" (which he directed) back in 2000 so that's definitely good news as far as I'm concerned.

[DrumStix]

Done and done. And incase you all haven't heard, Marc Webb - the director of "(500) Days of Summer" and countless music videos - is the frontrunner for the directing gig on the new Spider-Man. I've been a fan of Webb's since I first saw AFI's video for "Days of the Phoenix" (which he directed) back in 2000 so that's definitely good news as far as I'm concerned.

WOOOOOOOTTT!!!!


Start a parttyy!!

[Banky71]

LOL New rumour of whom the new Spider-man will be. Robert Pattinson...LOL

[Pwnz0r3d]

Wouldnt it be ironic if Robert Pattinson be cast as Morbius?

[supernova1324]

You know what's frustrating? Throwing away John Malkovich as Vulture.

Good riddance I say.

[DrumStix]

Robert Pattinson as Spider-Man? :eek::eek::eek:

GTFO. :rolleyes:

RP is the worst choice as Spider-man.
It's like casting Wesley Snipes as Robin.

Just CAN'T be done!

/lolopinion

[Banky71]

Robert Pattinson as Spider-Man? :eek::eek::eek:

GTFO. :rolleyes:

RP is the worst choice as Spider-man.
It's like casting Wesley Snipes as Robin.

Just CAN'T be done!

/lolopinion

Wesley Snipes as Robin? I like it!

[DrumStix]

Wesley Snipes as Robin? I like it!

Fact : They actually tried to cast Wesley Snipes as Robin for Batman Forever. I think it was Wesley Snipes...

[ultimatespidey81]

maybe they're going to do ultimate spiderman? that would make more sense.

it would make a lot of sense. its the only spider-man comic that i read and i gotta say that it is pretty damm good. the bendis-bagley combination really propelled the comic from a longshot to one of the best sellers in the industry. sony pictures would be wise to follow their model.

[Banky71]

it would make a lot of sense. its the only spider-man comic that i read and i gotta say that it is pretty damm good. the bendis-bagley combination really propelled the comic from a longshot to one of the best sellers in the industry. sony pictures would be wise to follow their model.

If Bendis writes it. I'll see it.

[ultimatespidey81]

yeah absolutely. but i doubt they would give him such a project. if he is in as a consultant, or something along those lines, i think it will be a good reboot.

[DrumStix]

yeah absolutely. but i doubt they would give him such a project. if he is in as a consultant, or something along those lines, i think it will be a good reboot.

Loved the game, will love the movie.

(IF the reboot has the Ultimate Spider-Man era in it.)