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Deeznutzs27
02-09-2010, 01:42 PM
New day new band.

Clutch 50,000 Unstoppable Watts

Awesome! Will be playtesting that one as soon as I get home. LOVE Clutch! :D

CrazyIvan
02-09-2010, 01:45 PM
Wha, wha, WHAAAA???? Clutch is coming? For the love of all that's good and pure, I have been asking for their stuff since GH2 came out! This news is literally the best news I've gotten for a music game since RB2 was announced. Frickin' awesome!!! Hopefully they release more than just this song.

cherokeesam
02-09-2010, 01:49 PM
Wha, wha, WHAAAA???? Clutch is coming? For the love of all that's good and pure, I have been asking for their stuff since GH2 came out! This news is literally the best news I've gotten for a music game since RB2 was announced. Frickin' awesome!!! Hopefully they release more than just this song.

"Electric Worry" would absolutely rule.

CrazyIvan
02-09-2010, 01:50 PM
"Electric Worry" would absolutely rule.

It would definitely rule, and has been a song I've sent in requests for at least a couple dozen times to HMX. Along with about 10 other Clutch songs. ;)

Catch-22
02-09-2010, 02:19 PM
More Clutch news, The Mob Goes Wild is also in playtesting.

LegendofRock3021
02-09-2010, 02:27 PM
More Clutch news, The Mob Goes Wild is also in playtesting.

Just awesome. :)

lpunderground19
02-09-2010, 02:28 PM
The Mob Goes Wild has gotta be one of my most wanted RB songs. My friends all love it too and say that opening line all the time, so they'd love it at parties. Awesome news.

Fizzeler
02-09-2010, 02:30 PM
More Clutch news, The Mob Goes Wild is also in playtesting.

Yesssss I would assume Electric Worry would go into playtesting, but The Mob Goes Wild is one of my favorite tunes instant buy for me

Deeznutzs27
02-09-2010, 02:30 PM
More Clutch news, The Mob Goes Wild is also in playtesting.

OMG thats awesome! These last few hours of the day are gonna draaaaag.

CrazyIvan
02-09-2010, 02:50 PM
Niiiiice!!! Keep 'em coming!!

DookieMan
02-09-2010, 02:58 PM
Not to sound like a n00b, but does this mean I can simply search through the store and stuff for free? If so, how can I do this?

snwns26
02-09-2010, 03:13 PM
WOW so excited for Clutch, one of my favorite RBN additions so far.

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-09-2010, 03:18 PM
Not to sound like a n00b, but does this mean I can simply search through the store and stuff for free? If so, how can I do this?

You can search through the store for free.

You can also download demos of each song to try them out before you buy them for free. (I believe it will be 1 min or 30% of the song).

However you can't do either of these things until the store opens ;)

General Lein979
02-09-2010, 03:47 PM
Hooray for Clutch!

DookieMan
02-09-2010, 04:18 PM
You can search through the store for free.

You can also download demos of each song to try them out before you buy them for free. (I believe it will be 1 min or 30% of the song).

However you can't do either of these things until the store opens ;)

When will that be?

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-09-2010, 08:07 PM
Nothing is set in concrete yet.

I've heard march, but of course that could change if an unforseen bug pops up again.

voodoo618
02-09-2010, 08:28 PM
Question: How hard will it be for me to author a song if I have no experience with recordings? :p

Ultrace
02-09-2010, 09:10 PM
Where'd this info come from? I was just gonna ask this. For example, with "Going Under" from Evanescence, it will group with "Bring Me to Life" under Fallen in the Quickplay list right? Then my other question would be if it's included in the Evanescence challenge in Tour Challenges.
It's been confirmed by Harmonix that these songs are not available for Challenges, and they will not show up randomly in setlists; they can be played from Quickplay and actual World Tour only, and they have to be selected manually each time you play them.

This is the only thing I'm disappointed about in RBN; the selection of songs, the vetting process and all of that is great, but the songs are technically inferior in their playability than regular DLC.

Ultrace
02-09-2010, 09:14 PM
"Juke Joint Jezebel"
Excellent, I was really hoping for this as opposed to the other song they had up.

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-09-2010, 10:18 PM
Excellent, I was really hoping for this as opposed to the other song they had up.


Keep in mind this is the album version of Juke.

Not the remix that is popular/played to death from Mortal Kombat/Bad Boys.

Transbrak
02-09-2010, 11:50 PM
Clutch!!! Finally!



"Juke Joint Jezebel"

Nice, I was really hoping for this one!

Jixzer
02-10-2010, 12:13 AM
Well, as I'm sure there are quite a large amount of good bands, most are outside my knowledge, so I'm a little less than thrilled thus far with the RBN. It's going to take a fair amount of outside influence to get me to pick up anything as it stands. I was really excited early on, but unless I start seeing some country put up there, RBN won't be used by me much.

Maybe when my tour in Afghanistan is over, I'll start my own authoring group catering specifically to my favorite genre.

HauntingYourKids
02-10-2010, 12:42 AM
Well, as I'm sure there are quite a large amount of good bands, most are outside my knowledge, so I'm a little less than thrilled thus far with the RBN. It's going to take a fair amount of outside influence to get me to pick up anything as it stands. I was really excited early on, but unless I start seeing some country put up there, RBN won't be used by me much.

Maybe when my tour in Afghanistan is over, I'll start my own authoring group catering specifically to my favorite genre.

I'd like to seek a spot in that group. Just trying to net a spot in some sort of group.

ThunderCurls
02-10-2010, 12:53 AM
CLUUUUUTCCHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHhhh yessssss

kingtonyx
02-10-2010, 02:36 AM
Metal Blade says hello with Job For A Cowboy, Unearth, and Lazarus A.D.!

wrldindstries302
02-10-2010, 02:41 AM
Hey, I noticed that of Montreal has a song in playtesting... but only one song. Has anyone heard anything about any more songs possibly coming?

If that's the only song we get, well I guess I'll just have to be happy about one of my all-time favorite bands getting a great song from their best album in the game. But it'd be nice to have more...

toymachineSH
02-10-2010, 02:53 AM
Metal Blade means there could be some GWAR coming :-O

LegendofRock3021
02-10-2010, 02:56 AM
Metal Blade means there could be some GWAR coming :-O

That would be fantastic, I love playing Gor-Gor in GH5, such an awesome song.

Nitz13
02-10-2010, 02:58 AM
Hey, I noticed that of Montreal has a song in playtesting... but only one song. Has anyone heard anything about any more songs possibly coming?

If that's the only song we get, well I guess I'll just have to be happy about one of my all-time favorite bands getting a great song from their best album in the game. But it'd be nice to have more...

I contacted Polyvinyl waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay back when RBN was announced. I was looking to find out if they were going to be putting out some Asobi Seksu. Whoever I was talking to mentioned they would be doing this for a number of their bands on the label including Asobi Seksu. With the 1 Of Montreal song so far I think it might be safe to say more is on the way. :)

cherokeesam
02-10-2010, 07:11 AM
Nothing is set in concrete yet.

I've heard march, but of course that could change if an unforseen bug pops up again.

And March is coincidentally when HMX's distribution contract with EA expires...and (given recent articles to that fact) it *looks* like they're shopping for a new distributor...

Hmm. Maybe nothing, but I'm wondering if that *is* what they're waiting on. If so, March looks a little more concrete as a launch date for the store.....we'll see.

voodoo618
02-10-2010, 07:13 AM
Yay for effing Unearth!

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-10-2010, 08:49 AM
And March is coincidentally when HMX's distribution contract with EA expires...and (given recent articles to that fact) it *looks* like they're shopping for a new distributor...

Hmm. Maybe nothing, but I'm wondering if that *is* what they're waiting on. If so, March looks a little more concrete as a launch date for the store.....we'll see.


Might be.

According to an article at Kotaku, EA is severing ties with the distribution aspect of its business.

So I'm guessing RB will be with a new distributor in a few months.

Props to EA for all they've done for the series, but IF there is a new distributor hopefully they'll learn from past mistakes and not treat Europe and Australia like red headed stepchildren's red headed stepchildren ;)

Pizza7
02-10-2010, 10:26 AM
Wha, wha, WHAAAA???? Clutch is coming? For the love of all that's good and pure, I have been asking for their stuff since GH2 came out! This news is literally the best news I've gotten for a music game since RB2 was announced. Frickin' awesome!!! Hopefully they release more than just this song.

**** YES! 50,000 unstoppable watts is my ring tone, and Mob Goes Wild is my favorite song. Fantastic.

Transbrak
02-10-2010, 10:36 AM
Metal Blade means there could be some GWAR coming :-O

One can only hope!!

moomandww
02-10-2010, 10:54 AM
Metal Blade says hello with Job For A Cowboy, Unearth, and Lazarus A.D.!

YESYESYESYESYES!!!

I had heard that they were interested in RBN but never once considered that they would go with RA for charting. Scratch that im a Moron. RG gets some Metal Blade love too. And The Authority. You guys are just trying to prove me wrong arent you?

Alot of people here and on Scorehero are always saying "God, why do we have ssoooooo mutch Death Metal? lollollame." But if you sub-genre all the bands in RB that use screaming and gutteral singing, you find that there are actualy only two song in game right now that are Death Metal.


The point im making is that even though this is gonna get alot of "UGH" from the fourms, we need mutch more Death Metal then we have now.


Now for bands i want to see come because of this (Horay for JFOC by the way):
1.Amon Amarth
2.As I Lay Dying
3.Austrian Death Machine (pleasepleaseplease)
4.Cellador
5.GWAR
6.King Diamond/Mercyful Fate

And more;
1.Behemoth
2.The Black Dahlia Murder
3.Cannibal Corpse

Pizza7
02-10-2010, 11:05 AM
Metal Blade says hello with Job For A Cowboy, Unearth, and Lazarus A.D.!

Oh, now only if they could release:

FATES WARNING
Armored Saint
Disillusion
Brainstorm
God Dethroned
and of course KD/MF

Happy Dragon
02-10-2010, 12:04 PM
"Juke Joint Jezebel"

SWEEEEET! That is gonna make a alot people I know very happy if it goes though.

Myself included :D

recharge138
02-10-2010, 12:22 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG

CLUTCH!

Best news all week. My most requested band not already in the game.

S1ckH4nds
02-10-2010, 12:31 PM
YESYESYESYESYES!!!

I had heard that they were interested in RBN but never once considered that they would go with RA for charting.

To set the record straight, Metal Blade aren't exclusively working with RA. We over here at RockGamer Studios authored the track from Unearth. Not sure where that rumor got started but that's the second time I've seen it in the past day. :confused:

S1ckH4nds
02-10-2010, 12:34 PM
SWEEEEET! That is gonna make a alot people I know very happy if it goes though.

Oh, it's not a question of "if" it goes through, it's more a question of "when". Rhythm Authors did a fantastic job on their first pass of the song (this is coming from me playing ALL instruments on ALL difficulties), and I have little doubt that it will be approved in short order -- like within the next two weeks or so.

So geeked for KMFDM -- just a little bit professionally jealous that RA got to author them, but still incredibly happy that they're on board for RBN regardless, and definitely in good hands!

Happy Dragon
02-10-2010, 12:56 PM
Oh, it's not a question of "if" it goes through, it's more a question of "when". Rhythm Authors did a fantastic job on their first pass of the song (this is coming from me playing ALL instruments on ALL difficulties), and I have little doubt that it will be approved in short order -- like within the next two weeks or so.

So geeked for KMFDM -- just a little bit professionally jealous that RA got to author them, but still incredibly happy that they're on board for RBN regardless, and definitely in good hands!

I hope it's not too forward of me to say I think I love you. :)

That is awesome news!

kingtonyx
02-10-2010, 01:46 PM
One thing that I have learned is that most labels have spread their tracks around to several of the charting groups

speaking of which, another new Metal Blade track is up (authored by The Authority) from Evergreen Terrace!

Deeznutzs27
02-10-2010, 04:25 PM
Also for you L4D2 fans out there "Midnight Ride" by Midnight Riders is up. :cool:

S1ckH4nds
02-10-2010, 04:27 PM
Also for you L4D2 fans out there "Midnight Ride" by Midnight Riders is up. :cool:
Expect another one shortly...

moomandww
02-10-2010, 04:35 PM
To set the record straight, Metal Blade aren't exclusively working with RA. We over here at RockGamer Studios authored the track from Unearth. Not sure where that rumor got started but that's the second time I've seen it in the past day. :confused:

Oh sorry. I saw that JFAC and Lazarus A.D. got charted by RA and assumed they did Unearth too.

Thats what happens when you assume, you make an @$$ of yourself.

Hope you guys can get more and more from them. (See list in my post for some good additions)

DragoonXD
02-10-2010, 04:51 PM
Also for you L4D2 fans out there "Midnight Ride" by Midnight Riders is up. :cool:

This is epic. The concert was easily the best part of L4D2.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-10-2010, 07:09 PM
People REALLY gotta stop abbreviating artists and songs.....how is anyone supposed to know who the hell you are talking about? Theres over 1000 songs, and a lot is coming out with RBN. Who is going to know what DNALS stands for??

a_bull_on_parade
02-10-2010, 08:17 PM
Punk fans rejoice MxPx have posted a song for playtesting.

But....they aren't punk :confused: :p

Catch-22
02-10-2010, 08:22 PM
But....they aren't punk :confused: :p

What the heck are you talking about?

Mister_Derp
02-10-2010, 08:28 PM
What Job for a Cowboy and Evergreen Terrace tracks are they?

DragoonXD
02-10-2010, 08:34 PM
What Job for a Cowboy and Evergreen Terrace tracks are they?

"Unfurling a Darkened Gospel" and "Sending Signals" respectively.

a_bull_on_parade
02-10-2010, 08:39 PM
What the heck are you talking about?

MxPx? They're crap pop.... I'm a fan of "pop-punk" but MxPx is as punk as Simple Plan

Catch-22
02-10-2010, 08:42 PM
MxPx? They're crap pop.... I'm a fan of "pop-punk" but MxPx is as punk as Simple Plan

Nothing is an unpunk as Simple Plan that's below the belt. They are definitely a pop-punk band.

voodoo618
02-10-2010, 08:47 PM
MxPx? They're crap pop.... I'm a fan of "pop-punk" but MxPx is as punk as Simple Plan

*looks at sig*

...woooooooooooooow...

Mister_Derp
02-10-2010, 09:17 PM
Haven't heard either of those songs by JFAC or Evergreen Terrace, but after Youtubing I'm definitely excited.

k-mac
02-10-2010, 11:44 PM
Buffalo Gun by Buffalo Gun is in playtesting now and it kicks serious ass - everyone should playtest this song.

CCDaDon
02-10-2010, 11:50 PM
People REALLY gotta stop abbreviating artists and songs.....how is anyone supposed to know who the hell you are talking about? Theres over 1000 songs, and a lot is coming out with RBN. Who is going to know what DNALS stands for??

DNALS is leet speak for a band full of people named Daniel obviously.

k-mac
02-10-2010, 11:57 PM
"Night On Bald Mountain" / band: Modest Mussorgsky & The Fauxharmonic Orchestra / genre: classical / author: fauxharmonic

Holy crap, never thought I'd see real classical music on here, let alone this song. Everyone who's seen the Disney movie Fantasia knows this song.

Runesmith
02-11-2010, 12:09 AM
"Night On Bald Mountain" / band: Modest Mussorgsky & The Fauxharmonic Orchestra / genre: classical / author: fauxharmonic

Holy crap, never thought I'd see real classical music on here, let alone this song. Everyone who's seen the Disney movie Fantasia knows this song.

If this song gets denied because of the 'no covers hurr' rule I'm going to cry.

foofighterfan4Mccain
02-11-2010, 12:11 AM
"Night On Bald Mountain" / band: Modest Mussorgsky & The Fauxharmonic Orchestra / genre: classical / author: fauxharmonic

Holy crap, never thought I'd see real classical music on here, let alone this song. Everyone who's seen the Disney movie Fantasia knows this song.

I think I do, Is it when Mickey is using the magic hat to clean up the building with the brooms (Very Faint memory as you can tell)

k-mac
02-11-2010, 12:12 AM
If this song gets denied because of the 'no covers hurr' rule I'm going to cry.

Since it's by Musorggsky and the Fauxharmonic Orchestra and it's charted by "fauxharmonic" I'm guess that won't be an issue.

@foofighterformccain, it's that final piece in the movie, with the devil on the mountain sending ghosts and demons through mountainside villages.

cherokeesam
02-11-2010, 12:16 AM
I think I do, Is it when Mickey is using the magic hat to clean up the building with the brooms (Very Faint memory as you can tell)

No, that was "The Sorcerer's Apprentice."

"Night On Bald Mountain" was the climax to Fantasia, and was what played when the giant demon literally blew the hell out of the landscape.

And I REALLY want to see how the charts play out for that.

HeyRiles
02-11-2010, 12:34 AM
I just read that there's a Senses Fail song in playtest

SQUEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE :D

Whoever claimed rights to that song, claim more tracks IMMEDIATELY! :D

foofighterfan4Mccain
02-11-2010, 12:40 AM
No, that was "The Sorcerer's Apprentice."

"Night On Bald Mountain" was the climax to Fantasia, and was what played when the giant demon literally blew the hell out of the landscape.

And I REALLY want to see how the charts play out for that.

thx after listening to it, its gonna be epic im stocked :D

a_bull_on_parade
02-11-2010, 01:59 AM
*looks at sig*

...woooooooooooooow...

I know the bands on my sig are pretty great! (Considering I made it about 2 years ago and still endorce most if not all of it)

Pop-Punk is a part of punk, I just can't find anything nice to say about MxPx....that said the comparison to Simple Plan was a bit harsh.

voodoo618
02-11-2010, 07:30 AM
I know the bands on my sig are pretty great! (Considering I made it about 2 years ago and still endorce most if not all of it)

Pop-Punk is a part of punk, I just can't find anything nice to say about MxPx....that said the comparison to Simple Plan was a bit harsh.

If it weren't for the vocals, it would be hard for me to tell the difference between Sum 41 and Simple Plan.

Soratar
02-11-2010, 08:29 AM
I've got around to listen to some of the songs kingtony has posted... I hope a lot of them get carried over to the PS3! (especially The Gaslight Anthem :D)

espher
02-11-2010, 10:09 AM
"Night On Bald Mountain" / band: Modest Mussorgsky & The Fauxharmonic Orchestra / genre: classical / author: fauxharmonic

Holy crap, never thought I'd see real classical music on here, let alone this song. Everyone who's seen the Disney movie Fantasia knows this song.

I just got very, very excited.

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 10:12 AM
If it weren't for the vocals, it would be hard for me to tell the difference between Sum 41 and Simple Plan.

Huh? For the most part Sum 41 and Simple Plan are on opposite ends of the pop-punk spectrum.

Listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlE4t89lgvs)


I've got around to listen to some of the songs kingtony has posted... I hope a lot of them get carried over to the PS3! (especially The Gaslight Anthem :D)

Yes, plenty of good stuff! But I only compiled a list of what others had posted :p

espher
02-11-2010, 10:15 AM
Huh? For the most part Sum 41 and Simple Plan are on opposite ends of the pop-punk spectrum.

Listen to this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GlE4t89lgvs)

haha, I was listening to that and went "wow, Battery"... and saw that the same comments had been made in, well, the comments.

jasonrosenbaum
02-11-2010, 10:47 AM
haha, I was listening to that and went "wow, Battery"... and saw that the same comments had been made in, well, the comments.

Also, "We're All to Blame" sounds a lot like "Chop Suey!" I do enjoy that song and would not mind it coming to RB in some form.

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 10:55 AM
haha, I was listening to that and went "wow, Battery"... and saw that the same comments had been made in, well, the comments.

well yes, it's a Metallica tribute just like "Pain For Pleasure" was an 80's metal tribute from their first album

if you notice it's not only "Battery" but also "Blackened"

espher
02-11-2010, 10:57 AM
Hmm. You're right on that.

voodoo618
02-11-2010, 10:59 AM
Heart Attack = Simple Plan

I'll check out the Bitter End when I get home.

Symbiotic
02-11-2010, 11:39 AM
I'm waiting on YouTube uploads of Clutch's 50,000 Unstoppable Watts and The Mob Goes Wild in action on Rock Band Network. Hint, hint.

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 11:39 AM
Victory Records peeks their head in with a relatively strange (but good from what I can tell) choice

Sister Sin - "On Parole" (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--PzbOzrT8s)

add in another label that I really hope goes RBN crazy... ADTR and BTBAM please :)


I'm waiting on YouTube uploads of Clutch's 50,000 Unstoppable Watts and The Mob Goes Wild in action on Rock Band Network. Hint, hint.

The charting group will have to post it. Testers aren't allowed! Also from what I can tell a lot of the bigger bands haven't had preview videos posted...

HeyRiles
02-11-2010, 11:41 AM
I'll check out the Bitter End when I get home.

The Bitter End by Placebo???

SQUEEEEEEE

jasonrosenbaum
02-11-2010, 11:43 AM
Could Victory's emergence mean we're getting some old school THURSDAY? That would probably cause me to buy an XBOX360.

Catch-22
02-11-2010, 12:55 PM
Victory has it's second song up.

Silverstein - American Dream

afterstasis
02-11-2010, 01:08 PM
as much as i don't like the idea of giving money to victory records there's no way i could resist some old school refused, deadguy, or integrity's "humanity is the devil".
i'd even buy some old snapcase, doughnuts, or bloodlet.

BevoTheWarrior
02-11-2010, 02:20 PM
The Bitter End by Placebo???

SQUEEEEEEE

Wait, what?? Did that pop up on RBN?

HeyRiles
02-11-2010, 02:25 PM
It might be a Sum 41 song, nobody is answering me

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-11-2010, 02:26 PM
Ok I missed something.

What's this bitter end everyone is going on about?

Catch-22
02-11-2010, 02:27 PM
There's no song called the Bitter End in playtesting or peer-review nor has there ever been. I'm not sure what they were talking about but it wasn't RBN related.

HeyRiles
02-11-2010, 02:28 PM
Oh, they were just comparing songs for some weird reason

Sigh. Nevermind

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-11-2010, 02:32 PM
I was wondering what they were talking about because I didn't remember any bitter end songs popping up recently.

animemetalhead
02-11-2010, 03:32 PM
Okay, just read the whole thread and had to keep myself from squealing like a little giddy schoolgirl.

All That Remains, Seether, The Devil Wears Prada, Lacuna Coil, FIVE FINGER ****ING DEATH PUNCH?!!

I need to go take a chill pill now...

jawillroy
02-11-2010, 03:46 PM
For those of you on with Amie Street accounts, I've been putting together a playlist of songs that are slated for the RBN:
http://amiestreet.com/playlist/0MlQ-fu_lJQx

Have a look. If there are any songs that you know are both on Amie Street and in the RBN pipeline, let me know and I'll see about adding them.
(Full disclosure: I've got two songs in there. One of 'em's free.)

voodoo618
02-11-2010, 05:06 PM
Sorry all who were confused about the Bitter End.

I was referring to a song by Sum 41 that is NOT in RBN.

Jixzer
02-11-2010, 05:09 PM
I know nearly none of the bands and don't know any of the songs. I need to get out more.

wursty
02-11-2010, 05:46 PM
Could Victory's emergence mean we're getting some old school THURSDAY? That would probably cause me to buy an XBOX360.

Thursday would be awesome, i wouldnt care what songs they used just get some damn Thursday in RBN!

Did anyone try to contact the band about RBN?

BStu78
02-11-2010, 06:05 PM
.

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 06:18 PM
Seether comes back yet again with "Rise Above This", their 3rd RBN offering!

Fuelie79
02-11-2010, 06:24 PM
Seether comes back yet again with "Rise Above This", their 3rd RBN offering!

Nice! I wonder why they were never released through the regular store. They are pretty open about it and weren't they on some Rock Band thing with Flyleaf?

afterstasis
02-11-2010, 06:50 PM
blondie's "atomic"? oh man oh man!

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 06:57 PM
very cool indeed, that song has been on my RB3 lists before

LegendofRock3021
02-11-2010, 06:58 PM
blondie's "atomic"? oh man oh man!

That is amazing to say the least, very happy about more Blondie. :)

xXZeroOverrideXx
02-11-2010, 07:03 PM
Atomic? HOLY MORE BLONDIE BATMAN!

kiggidykev
02-11-2010, 07:36 PM
Couldn't believe my eyes, but yeah, Blondie is on there. SO COOL

Runesmith
02-11-2010, 07:39 PM
blondie's "atomic"? Oh man oh man!

!!!

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD OH MY GOD BASS SOLO

More Blondie, please!

jayou521
02-11-2010, 07:54 PM
BLONDIE?!!?! :eek:~ Wow... that's huge and really unexpected...

Now~ any chance we could we get "Rapture"? ;):D

S1ckH4nds
02-11-2010, 08:15 PM
Now~ any chance we could we get "Rapture"? ;):D

"Rapture" is my all-time favorite Blondie song -- I'd love to see that happen. :)

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 08:26 PM
More labels coming on board... Fearless Records brings songs from Breathe Carolina, Every Avenue, and Let's Get It

Symbiotic
02-11-2010, 08:26 PM
The charting group will have to post it. Testers aren't allowed! Also from what I can tell a lot of the bigger bands haven't had preview videos posted...
I figured that may be the case. But since I've seen a few RBN YouTube uploads, I'm still hoping. :(

BruceDickinson
02-11-2010, 08:55 PM
I played Blondie Atomic on drums today. Good time!

G_tarRoCK3R
02-11-2010, 09:01 PM
The charting group will have to post it. Testers aren't allowed! Also from what I can tell a lot of the bigger bands haven't had preview videos posted...

Says who? And what exactly happens if testers post videos? I was thinking of going in XNA for this reason.

Catch-22
02-11-2010, 09:06 PM
Says who? And what exactly happens if testers post videos? I was thinking of going in XNA for this reason.

Quoting our RBN Dictator


Trading or distribution of audio files or .rba/.rbs files is, of course, specifically not allowed by the Program Terms of this website. Section 10.2:


10.2. Review License. Harmonix hereby grants to You a limited, non-exclusive and revocable license, without right of sublicense, to (a) download Other Participant Game Levels to Your computer, (b) transfer Other Participant Game Levels from Your computer to the Permitted Device only on or through the Permitted Network only, and (c) play Other Participant Game Levels on the Permitted Device only with a lawfully licensed copy of the Rock Band Game only. “Permitted Device” means a video game console or other Digital Application owned by You. “Permitted Network” means an electronic network connecting Your computer with the Permitted Device. You agree that Your download and use of Other Participant Game Levels shall not exceed the scope of the license provided herein and shall otherwise comply with the requirements of these Program Terms.


These are the only rights that we grant you. I realize that videos of the charts are a grey area. However, any such video would undoubtedly contain copyrighted audio, and as such we cannot allow or encourage any sort of distribution of these videos in these forums or on this website.

Thank you for your understanding.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-11-2010, 09:09 PM
That just says THAT site.....doesn't say no youtube. Which is INFESTED with copyrighted videos ;)

Yoshipupdude
02-11-2010, 09:10 PM
so thats basically the same as them saying its illegal to post videos of the weekly dlc that everybody does anyway. and how could they even link your youtube account to your rock band network account or gamertag. i feel like the only thing keeping you from doing this, is that your videos will prob just get taken down from youtube, but you can probably just re-upload them.

Catch-22
02-11-2010, 09:10 PM
That just says THAT site.....doesn't say no youtube. Which is INFESTED with copyrighted videos ;)

I think the point of that part was you use the site to acquire the RBA files. It has nothing to do with posting videos there.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-11-2010, 09:16 PM
so thats basically the same as them saying its illegal to post videos of the weekly dlc that everybody does anyway. and how could they even link your youtube account to your rock band network account or gamertag. i feel like the only thing keeping you from doing this, is that your videos will prob just get taken down from youtube, but you can probably just re-upload them.

Exactly my point. Which is why I might do it. Debating the $160? lol


I think the point of that part was you use the site to acquire the RBA files. It has nothing to do with posting videos there.

If thats the case why did you respond to my comment haha :p I agree. The site should contain the .RBA files. I think its wrong that people are out there using the tools to create customs and sharing via email and such. HMX released them, so it was bound to happen....Won't doubt seeing Led Zep, Pink Floyd, etc. customs within a few months.

ZosoBaron
02-11-2010, 09:34 PM
Night on Bald Mountain is in the RBN.

Holy ****.

cherokeesam
02-11-2010, 10:34 PM
blondie's "atomic"? oh man oh man!

hhhhWWWHAAAAAA......????

BINGO
I've been yearning for more Debbie for years.....just listening to "Atomic" today at work, and was air-guitaring the riffs and thinking how cool it would be for RB....
wow, I must be psychotic or somethin'

BevoTheWarrior
02-11-2010, 10:34 PM
More labels coming on board... Fearless Records brings songs from Breathe Carolina, Every Avenue, and Let's Get It

Do you know which tracks from Breathe Carolina?

Catch-22
02-11-2010, 10:37 PM
Do you know which tracks from Breathe Carolina?

Hello fascination.

a_bull_on_parade
02-11-2010, 10:37 PM
If it weren't for the vocals, it would be hard for me to tell the difference between Sum 41 and Simple Plan.

This

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qO-mSLxih-c&feature=related

sounds like this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r0U0AlLVqpk

BevoTheWarrior
02-11-2010, 10:39 PM
Hello fascination.

Cool, thanks.

cherokeesam
02-11-2010, 10:44 PM
More labels coming on board... Fearless Records brings songs from Breathe Carolina, Every Avenue, and Let's Get It

Interesting.
Wonder if they'll try to work A Skylit Drive in there...."Running With the Light," "Drown This City" or "Children Of Adelphia" would rock.

BevoTheWarrior
02-11-2010, 10:45 PM
I'm still waiting for Hellcat Records to show up.

trg007
02-11-2010, 10:47 PM
so thats basically the same as them saying its illegal to post videos of the weekly dlc that everybody does anyway.

Posting videos of the weekly DLC is illegal. The $2 you pay for a DLC track gives you the right to play it in RB; it does not give you the right to distribute the audio elsewhere. Just because the majority of people who post videos don't get their accounts banned doesn't mean it's legal.

Yoshipupdude
02-11-2010, 11:54 PM
Posting videos of the weekly DLC is illegal. The $2 you pay for a DLC track gives you the right to play it in RB; it does not give you the right to distribute the audio elsewhere. Just because the majority of people who post videos don't get their accounts banned doesn't mean it's legal.

yes i understand that, im just saying its very unlikely you would be thrown in jail for putting up a few videos of copyrighted songs. hell, one of our rock band forums members got recognition from harmonix for posting these very same copyrighted videos on youtube.

kingtonyx
02-11-2010, 11:56 PM
Hopeless Records comes to the party with There For Tomorrow's "A Little Faster", the third label debuting today!

Yoshipupdude
02-11-2010, 11:57 PM
oh and btw i know these bands were announced but here is the songs:

Silverstein - American Dream
Seether - Rise Above This
Let's Get It - Do Not Disturb (Tell Me How Bad)
Breathe Carolina - Hello Fascination
Every Avenue - Where Were You?

edit: ninja'd by kingtony:
and most recently: There For Tomorrow: A Little Faster

BevoTheWarrior
02-12-2010, 12:06 AM
Hopeless Records comes to the party with There For Tomorrow's "A Little Faster", the third label debuting today!

Dammit, where's Hellcat? :mad:

voodoo618
02-12-2010, 01:13 PM
Are there any users here that are a part of Rhythm Authors?

I thought I remember at least one...

G_tarRoCK3R
02-12-2010, 01:18 PM
Are there any users here that are a part of Rhythm Authors?

I thought I remember at least one...

sphe4rfreak? or something like that....

voodoo618
02-12-2010, 01:32 PM
sphe4rfreak? or something like that....

SHPhr34k?

Thanks.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-12-2010, 02:27 PM
SHPhr34k?

Thanks.

Yea thas it. You're welcome! :)

Poncho
02-12-2010, 04:29 PM
oh and btw i know these bands were announced but here is the songs:

Silverstein - American Dream
Breathe Carolina - Hello Fascination


<33333 :D

That's all I can really say.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-12-2010, 05:45 PM
I don't think I say this enough. I love RBN! :D Lots on unknowns and lots of KICK ASS SONGS!

SirDavidTLynch
02-12-2010, 11:26 PM
Uploading videos of unreleased WIP songs without the permission of any of the parties involved is different from video of playing a song that has been released for all to see. It seems like the kind of thing where if you have to ask, the answer is probably no. Not worth even the slightest chance of getting your $100 XNA account banned, at least.

Quazifuji
02-13-2010, 12:07 AM
Uploading videos of unreleased WIP songs without the permission of any of the parties involved is different from video of playing a song that has been released for all to see. It seems like the kind of thing where if you have to ask, the answer is probably no. Not worth even the slightest chance of getting your $100 XNA account banned, at least.

I think this is the key thing that everyone comparing releasing videos of these songs to releasing videos of weekly DLC is missing. Weekly DLC has already been released an anyone can buy it. It still contains copyrighted material, but at least you're showing the final product.

RBN songs in playtest, however, are unfinished. It's not really fair to the authors to post a video of a playtest song because they might not think it's ready to be shown. At worst, if there are mistakes in the track that will get fixed before release, it could give people an inaccurate bad impression of the charters.

That's not to say it's perfectly okay to post videos of finished songs, but I don't think that's as big a deal. It's still polite and legally correct to have their permission, but it's not nearly as disrespectful as posting videos of songs that are still works in progress that they haven't shown themselves yet.

k-mac
02-13-2010, 01:09 AM
"Atomic" / band: Blondie / genre: pop-rock / label: EMI / author: JakeV-EMI

Another on-disk band makes an apearance. EMI is pushing some heavy hitters.

Catch-22
02-13-2010, 01:12 AM
Uploading videos of unreleased WIP songs without the permission of any of the parties involved is different from video of playing a song that has been released for all to see. It seems like the kind of thing where if you have to ask, the answer is probably no. Not worth even the slightest chance of getting your $100 XNA account banned, at least.

After a discussion on the RBN, officially policy is that any non approved vidoes are to be reported and Viacom will contest them. If someone is found to be a repeat offender they will be banned from the Creators website.

creatureofwar
02-13-2010, 12:29 PM
If it weren't for the vocals, it would be hard for me to tell the difference between Sum 41 and Simple Plan.

HAHAHA!

Well, maybe with Underclass Hero it would be. Everything else...nah.

White_PawZ
02-13-2010, 01:25 PM
"Atomic" / band: Blondie / genre: pop-rock / label: EMI / author: JakeV-EMI

Another on-disk band makes an apearance. EMI is pushing some heavy hitters.

There is a guy who actually works for EMI doing the charting?

If so, that is REALLY COOL news. Now we need WMG and a few others to follow suit.

Think about it, they already control the music so it makes licensing a heck of a lot easier when they do it themselves.

General Lein979
02-13-2010, 01:27 PM
Another on-disk band makes an apearance. EMI is pushing some heavy hitters.I'm surprised one of the major labels jumped on so quickly before seeing if it was a success or fail.

Fuelie79
02-13-2010, 04:46 PM
Now we need WMG and a few others to follow suit.

WMG actually just pulled all of their artists from sites like last.fm, so I'm not seeing them do anything fun anytime soon.

kingtonyx
02-13-2010, 08:22 PM
WMG actually just pulled all of their artists from sites like last.fm, so I'm not seeing them do anything fun anytime soon.

This is different though, they'd make money from this.

recharge138
02-13-2010, 08:58 PM
I'm still waiting for Hellcat Records to show up.

This.

Lookout! too (or did they say they were interested? I forget.) Would love some Op Ivy. Epitaph has the rights to first four Rancid albums, no?

NoThru22
02-13-2010, 09:08 PM
This is different though, they'd make money from this.
Actually the head of WMG has publicly stated that he'd like a bigger cut of profits from selling songs on Rock Band and Guitar Hero so it's not as plain and simple as they'd make money. Perhaps we'll see some WMG songs at the $3 price point but I think he was arguing that he wants a bigger slice of each dollar sold.

maniac3000
02-13-2010, 09:41 PM
This is different though, they'd make money from this.

They only get 30% to split up among the label, artist, production team, charter, etc. Such a low percentage seems totally unfair to me. Harmonix/Viacom aren't doing that much work, so the payout should be more comparable to indie games. I'd say at least a half. Right now there's no guarantee they'll even break even.

Casto21
02-13-2010, 09:58 PM
Harmonix/Viacom aren't doing that much work

That is a very ridiculous statement.

They have spent about 1.5 years designing and developing the tooling (Reaper addin, Magma), the back end, the RB2 updates (Audition mode, ability to download previews, ...), the creators site, and the processes. So maybe it might seem like the artists and authors are doing most the work now, but in the overall view that isn't true.

Also, keep in mind that just because the artists/labels/authors get 30% does not mean HMX gets 70%. I'm sure MS gets a nice cut of all sales too.

creatureofwar
02-14-2010, 01:07 AM
This.

Lookout! too (or did they say they were interested? I forget.) Would love some Op Ivy. Epitaph has the rights to first four Rancid albums, no?

Technically Epitaph has those rights, but Hellcat is a sister label to Epitaph so it would be safe to assume that any Rancid available would be fair game. The Rancid DLC that was released last year had two songs from an Epitaph release and one song from their new album, which is on Hellcat. Hopefully that will continue to be the case.

T-Hybrid
02-14-2010, 01:49 AM
They have spent about 1.5 years designing and developing the tooling (Reaper addin, Magma), the back end, the RB2 updates (Audition mode, ability to download previews, ...), the creators site, and the processes. So maybe it might seem like the artists and authors are doing most the work now, but in the overall view that isn't true.
Even ignoring all of that...HMX built the entire Rock Band franchise. You give them 70% to compensate for them giving you a ready made gaming platform.

Otherwise all of these labels and indie bands would have to come up with their own music title to put their songs in.

HeyRiles
02-14-2010, 02:27 PM
This is different though, they'd make money from this.

It could be very tough to make a profit on this

I talked with Vagrant Records licensing, and they said it takes a good bit of money to split into audio stems, and then hire an author to put the track in Rock Band. They've got a Senses Fail song in Rock Band right now. The guy I talked to said that he believes Rock Band is on its way out in terms of popularity and potential monetary gain, so he wants to see if this one song will gain him a little profit before he releases a few others - if it sells big, then you may see a good deal more songs. But if it doesn't sell that well, or barely makes a profit, then you may not see anything else from Vagrant

kingtonyx
02-14-2010, 02:34 PM
It could be very tough to make a profit on this

I talked with Vagrant Records licensing, and they said it takes a good bit of money to split into audio stems, and then hire an author to put the track in Rock Band. They've got a Senses Fail song in Rock Band right now. The guy I talked to said that he believes Rock Band is on its way out in terms of popularity and potential monetary gain, so he wants to see if this one song will gain him a little profit before he releases a few others - if it sells big, then you may see a good deal more songs. But if it doesn't sell that well, or barely makes a profit, then you may not see anything else from Vagrant

Well that makes sense, but I think he'll find that these songs WILL generate profit. There is certainly large risk for relative unknowns but otherwise I think well known bands will do great. There will be many RBN tracks that easily do 10,000 downloads if not WAY more.

White_PawZ
02-14-2010, 11:12 PM
as far as WMG goes... a lot of the recent "normal" DLC has been WMG artists

So they seem back on board with RB....

As silly/unbelievable as this may seem, I'm SURE that for major labels/bands you could find some dedicated fans who would chart the songs for FREE

I would 100% chart Sublime, Squirrel Nut Zippers, Yes, ZZ Top and a few others if given the chance, just for the reward of getting it into the game. I guarantee I'm not the only one.

I wouldn't do it for just any band, but for my most wished for bands if there was a deal where I chart 5 YES songs for free I would do it in a heartbeat.

People used to spend all that time making GH customs and putting them on youtube... Of course people would do it for free.

Of course that wouldn't go over well with paid charters, and it would come with a "time permitting" caveat

But I could find the needed hrs to get Yes or Sublime in this game.

I wonder if any labels have thought about that approach?

Charting costs would be ZERO.

General Lein979
02-15-2010, 12:52 AM
Charting costs would be ZERO.Who gets the revenue though and what sort of binding contract would make it sure the label gets their money and that you handle their masters with care?

snwns26
02-15-2010, 01:07 AM
More labels coming on board... Fearless Records brings songs from Breathe Carolina, Every Avenue, and Let's Get It

Oh my god PLEASE let there be A Static Lullaby coming. A Skylit Drive would be acceptable too but anything from ASL's Rattlesnake is drum sex.

Ultrace
02-15-2010, 08:04 AM
Who gets the revenue though and what sort of binding contract would make it sure the label gets their money and that you handle their masters with care?
There's part of the issue. These companies aren't going to hand over stems of music to just anyone, no matter how good the intentions.

mankat13
02-15-2010, 11:00 AM
how do you play songs from rock band network

sonicnerd23
02-15-2010, 11:16 AM
how do you play songs from rock band network

You can't. Not until is comes out, that is. Or unless you have an XNA subscription so you can playtest (I think that's how it works).

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-15-2010, 11:19 AM
You can't. Not until is comes out, that is. Or unless you have an XNA subscription so you can playtest (I think that's how it works).

Yeah you need an XNA full subscription(trial won't work).

RB2, a PC to download the RBN demo tracks to and upload them to RB2.

And a 360.

The store is opening(soon I'd imagine), but until then, that's the only way to play them.

Quazifuji
02-15-2010, 11:20 AM
how do you play songs from rock band network

Sometimes in the future (no date has been announced, although there's a rumor it'll happen in March), the Rock Band Network store will open, and you'll be able to buy approved songs from the music store.

Or, if you want to playtest them, you need to get a premium XNA account ($50 for 4 months or $100 for a year), and then you can use Magma (which is a free download) to upload them to your XBox to playtest them in audition mode. If you're interested in this, someone else who's actually part of the process could give you more details.

Fuelie79
02-15-2010, 09:54 PM
#RBN song: "I'm Made Of Wax Larry, What Are You Made Of" / band: A Day To Remember / genre: metal / label: Victory / author: @WaveGroupRocks

What kind of song name is that?

T-Hybrid
02-15-2010, 10:10 PM
Only the second most awesome RB song name since "I Didn't Say I Was Powerful, I Said I Was a Wizard"

kingtonyx
02-15-2010, 11:15 PM
Man RBN is just swell.

ADTR <3

maniac3000
02-15-2010, 11:37 PM
I'm curious as to what exactly Harmonix and MS/Sony/Nintendo take from normal DLC. Seeing as how Harmonix is taking 40% of the revenue from this, I'd expect their share from normal DLC to be at least 50%.

DragoonXD
02-15-2010, 11:41 PM
Only the second most awesome RB song name since "I Didn't Say I Was Powerful, I Said I Was a Wizard"
If it ever makes it into Rock Band, Poison the Well's "Zombies Are Good For Your Health" might top it. ;)

broncosfan06
02-15-2010, 11:42 PM
more adtr? frekin awesome......this is gettin better n better

Quazifuji
02-15-2010, 11:43 PM
Only the second most awesome RB song name since "I Didn't Say I Was Powerful, I Said I Was a Wizard"

Although both would have been beaten by "Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over" if it hadn't been pulled.

I'm not a fan of that genre of music, but I have to admit, they have some amazing song names.

SHPhr34k
02-16-2010, 12:53 AM
Although both would have been beaten by "Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over" if it hadn't been pulled.

I'm not a fan of that genre of music, but I have to admit, they have some amazing song names.

It was pulled to correct the Author field. It simply hasn't been reposted yet.

bengino
02-16-2010, 01:02 AM
Posting videos of the weekly DLC is illegal. The $2 you pay for a DLC track gives you the right to play it in RB; it does not give you the right to distribute the audio elsewhere. Just because the majority of people who post videos don't get their accounts banned doesn't mean it's legal.

see, i understand that some people are ripping off the videos from YouTube and all, but honestly i find it very difficult to get to listen to some songs in the "here and now" stage... If i happen to have the album then i can pop it in, but otherwise how can i listen to some of these tracks (and this is more of a general statement, and not an accusation towards you or your reply). Example of this, for some reason i got a craving to listen to some Mike & The Mechanics, not owning any album of theirs, i went to Youtube to listen to some of their stuff (like "All I Need Is A Miracle" and "The Living Years") only to find that their videos either had no sound or were removed.... what's the point?? anyways moving on.


It could be very tough to make a profit on this

I talked with Vagrant Records licensing, and they said it takes a good bit of money to split into audio stems, and then hire an author to put the track in Rock Band. They've got a Senses Fail song in Rock Band right now. The guy I talked to said that he believes Rock Band is on its way out in terms of popularity and potential monetary gain, so he wants to see if this one song will gain him a little profit before he releases a few others - if it sells big, then you may see a good deal more songs. But if it doesn't sell that well, or barely makes a profit, then you may not see anything else from Vagrant

Rock Band is losing momentum for sure, the platform itself is becoming ancient and Activision has made it that the entire genre is suffering with their constant slamming of products. I'm not convinced that a Rock Band 3 could actually bring the hype back, but those of us who have stuck with the game since the get go will try to keep the streak alive. I'd hate to see DLC stopped because of lack of interest or because of slacking sales, but in my honest opinion, there are not many of the songs that have been listed (and i have skimmed through some of the videos through youtube) that are worthwhile (this is to me). Listening to stuff like "Footloose and Fancy Free" (i think was the title) made me not want this on RBN, i realize my opinion is not everybody's opinion, but i'd prefer to have some semi known bands on top of the big ones already announced. You can guarantee right now that Seether, Billy Idol and Blondie WILL sell, which isn't a sure thing for other bands mentioned in this thread.

wursty
02-16-2010, 02:38 AM
Although both would have been beaten by "Dogs Can Grow Beards All Over" if it hadn't been pulled.

I'm not a fan of that genre of music, but I have to admit, they have some amazing song names.

If they had any songs from The Locust then those would all get beat by such titles as

"Recyclable Body Fluids in Human Form"

"Twenty-Three Lubed Up Schizophrenics with Delusions of Grandeur"

"One Manometer Away from Mutually Assured Relocation"

Sayburr
02-16-2010, 09:12 AM
I'd hate to see DLC stopped because of lack of interest or because of slacking sales, but in my honest opinion, there are not many of the songs that have been listed (and i have skimmed through some of the videos through youtube) that are worthwhile (this is to me). Listening to stuff like "Footloose and Fancy Free" (i think was the title) made me not want this on RBN, i realize my opinion is not everybody's opinion, but i'd prefer to have some semi known bands on top of the big ones already announced. You can guarantee right now that Seether, Billy Idol and Blondie WILL sell, which isn't a sure thing for other bands mentioned in this thread.

These thoughts pretty much echo my own. I see bands excited about RBN right now, but as more and more songs flood into the market less and less songs are going to be sold.

With over 70 songs ready to hit the store, I am excited about none of them...

I just don't see RBN being something that will be long term as bands start saying... eh, why bother, it will cost a lot more than we can sell... Heck, it sounds like Vagrant Records is aready thinking this...

T-Hybrid
02-16-2010, 09:29 AM
I think some of that is because the labels are being WAY too quick to add songs. Why not put in one or two songs from your major artists and see how those sell before going forward with more? That way if you DO take a hit it's not too large.

And if they're smart, they could use the inevitable sales from songs like "Bodies" to help fuel other releases. Let it sustain itself. If it can't, they stop. Problem solved.

jellisjenius
02-16-2010, 01:55 PM
IMHO, any formula for RBN success is not going to involve only us few hardcore RBers picking and choosing from the available songs. That would be true if the store opened with 10 songs or 1000 songs. The only way RBN can elevate RB to truly become a music platform is for those bands that are participating, and/or fans of the band who may be heavily involved in the RB community, to really push and publicize their RBN tracks on their own forums, myspace pages, and other social networks. In the grand scheme of things, hard core RB'ers branching out and buying new songs from unfamiliar artists (or not) is a drop in the bucket...what we really need is to lure in new RB'ers with the promise of being able to play their (in many cases) lesser-known favorite band's tracks in the game.

BruceDickinson
02-16-2010, 02:24 PM
IMHO, any formula for RBN success is not going to involve only us few hardcore RBers picking and choosing from the available songs. That would be true if the store opened with 10 songs or 1000 songs. The only way RBN can elevate RB to truly become a music platform is for those bands that are participating, and/or fans of the band who may be heavily involved in the RB community, to really push and publicize their RBN tracks on their own forums, myspace pages, and other social networks. In the grand scheme of things, hard core RB'ers branching out and buying new songs from unfamiliar artists (or not) is a drop in the bucket...what we really need is to lure in new RB'ers with the promise of being able to play their (in many cases) lesser-known favorite band's tracks in the game.

Well said.

bengino
02-17-2010, 12:22 AM
I think some of that is because the labels are being WAY too quick to add songs. Why not put in one or two songs from your major artists and see how those sell before going forward with more? That way if you DO take a hit it's not too large.

And if they're smart, they could use the inevitable sales from songs like "Bodies" to help fuel other releases. Let it sustain itself. If it can't, they stop. Problem solved.

yes, but at the same time, the big name bands are likely to get the sales, while those no name bands... sorry i should rephrase that, the lesser known bands, those that are pretty big in their areas and nowhere else are likely to not get as much of a chance.

If labels that are mostly independent will not turn a profit because of the cost of authoring and others, so in a long run, i am not so sure anymore if this is going to hold on for a long period of time. HMX did a bang up job with giving the tool to help these bands, but the cost attached to the songs are sometimes a major let down. Some of the major artists that have released tracks have not even sold well, this has to be a little bit scary though.

bengino
02-17-2010, 12:24 AM
IMHO, any formula for RBN success is not going to involve only us few hardcore RBers picking and choosing from the available songs. That would be true if the store opened with 10 songs or 1000 songs. The only way RBN can elevate RB to truly become a music platform is for those bands that are participating, and/or fans of the band who may be heavily involved in the RB community, to really push and publicize their RBN tracks on their own forums, myspace pages, and other social networks. In the grand scheme of things, hard core RB'ers branching out and buying new songs from unfamiliar artists (or not) is a drop in the bucket...what we really need is to lure in new RB'ers with the promise of being able to play their (in many cases) lesser-known favorite band's tracks in the game.

yes but how many lesser known bands have the financial ability to do this though? It's really a double edge sword, they COULD make money off the tracks being available, but the truth is it is too much an unknown factor as to how it would/will be received that can make the ultimate decision.

Fuelie79
02-17-2010, 02:06 AM
Sweet! Portugal, The Man is on board!
http://twitter.com/RBNnews/status/9223278129

wursty
02-17-2010, 02:20 AM
Sweet! Portugal, The Man is on board!
http://twitter.com/RBNnews/status/9223278129

Sweet, maybe Circa Survive will get on board, they released a new song today and their new album is coming out on 4/20/10

BruceDickinson
02-17-2010, 05:23 PM
Band Of Skulls is up! Hell yes! I was hoping that they would put up "I Know What I Am" Great track! Very White Stripe-ish vibe.

cyborggrimreaper
02-17-2010, 06:44 PM
just posted on RBNnews twitter Higher by Creed has shown up yesssssss instant buy

kingtonyx
02-17-2010, 06:44 PM
Can you take meeeee hiiigherrrr

snwns26
02-17-2010, 06:46 PM
Haha can't wait to play Higher.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-17-2010, 06:55 PM
Higher!?? Hell yes! I love RBN :D Creed FTW!

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-17-2010, 07:06 PM
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee36/thunderbuckets/creed-bratton-the-office.jpg

???


I don't get it.

BevoTheWarrior
02-17-2010, 07:07 PM
just posted on RBNnews twitter Higher by Creed has shown up yesssssss instant buy

Ugh. I wouldn't mind a few tracks off of Creed's first album but after that I just couldn't stand them. "Higher" was actually the song that made me start to hate them.

Magik_Tek
02-17-2010, 07:09 PM
yes, but at the same time, the big name bands are likely to get the sales, while those no name bands... sorry i should rephrase that, the lesser known bands, those that are pretty big in their areas and nowhere else are likely to not get as much of a chance.

If labels that are mostly independent will not turn a profit because of the cost of authoring and others, so in a long run, i am not so sure anymore if this is going to hold on for a long period of time. HMX did a bang up job with giving the tool to help these bands, but the cost attached to the songs are sometimes a major let down. Some of the major artists that have released tracks have not even sold well, this has to be a little bit scary though.

I would think at the end of the day the labels should be looking at RBN as more of a marketing/advertisement tool to entice people to check out the bands and to get them to buy CDs and going to the concerts where most of the profits these indie bands tend to make their money from.

If labels truly want to make RBN more of a revenue stream than they need to start treating it more seriously by being more selective with their songs that have the greater chance of selling and most importantly, promote the songs through twitter, myspace, facebook, youtube etc. It doesn't take much effort at all to type a sentence or two or simply loading a video onto a site for those fans that don't play RB to see their favourite band is now in a video game that they can now play along to.

Lastly, what costs are you referring to that makes it such a 'letdown'? There was always going to be a cost associated to RBN.

Deeznutzs27
02-17-2010, 07:12 PM
"Higher" has a really fun chart albeit kinda repetitive on guitar.

BruceDickinson
02-17-2010, 07:39 PM
Creed..lol

davidshek
02-17-2010, 07:45 PM
yes but how many lesser known bands have the financial ability to do this though?

All of them. If you go with a profit-sharing contract with an authoring company like Rhythm Authors, there is NO up-front cost to the band whatsoever. And RA isn't the only company offering that option either.

Cost is not a limiting factor here for anybody.

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-17-2010, 07:52 PM
All of them. If you go with a profit-sharing contract with an authoring company like Rhythm Authors, there is NO up-front cost to the band whatsoever. And RA isn't the only company offering that option either.

Cost is not a limiting factor here for anybody.

And to prove the RBN works, there's been more than a few bands that I've found on RBN that I'd never heard of before and I am definitely going to track down some of their albums and purchase them if they are available.

NoThru22
02-17-2010, 08:51 PM
Hell, there are about ten bands out of the approved bands that I've never heard of that I'm buying on day one, and there will probably be ten more by the time the store opens!

creatureofwar
02-17-2010, 09:36 PM
I've heard rumors of "Some Postman" by the Presidents of the United States of America floating around in the playtest area. If anyone would be so kind as to provide an update as to whether or not it's true it would be much appreciated.

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-17-2010, 10:03 PM
I've heard rumors of "Some Postman" by the Presidents of the United States of America floating around in the playtest area. If anyone would be so kind as to provide an update as to whether or not it's true it would be much appreciated.

It was there...not sure what happened to it as I haven't seen it in a while.

BTD1980
02-17-2010, 10:05 PM
Ugh. I wouldn't mind a few tracks off of Creed's first album but after that I just couldn't stand them. "Higher" was actually the song that made me start to hate them.

This.

cherokeesam
02-17-2010, 10:19 PM
I'll definitely pick up "Higher" on Day One. No doubt about it.
But here's hoping they've got more on the way!

k-mac
02-17-2010, 10:47 PM
http://i233.photobucket.com/albums/ee36/thunderbuckets/creed-bratton-the-office.jpg

???


I don't get it.

I love Creed! One of my fave characters.

Alright_Computer
02-17-2010, 10:48 PM
Sweet! Portugal, The Man is on board!
http://twitter.com/RBNnews/status/9223278129

Sweet, a name I recognize and enjoy!

kingtonyx
02-17-2010, 10:48 PM
new song: Aiden "Scavengers Of The Damned"

jr174200
02-18-2010, 12:59 AM
PORTUGAL. THE MAN!!!!!

My favorite band currently on RBN, by far. This is awesome!!!!!!!!!!

creatureofwar
02-18-2010, 06:59 PM
It was there...not sure what happened to it as I haven't seen it in a while.

Thanks. I'm kind of excited to hopefully be getting some more Presidents.

kingtonyx
02-18-2010, 10:21 PM
new track - Mayday Parade - "When I Get Home You're So Dead"

BevoTheWarrior
02-18-2010, 10:24 PM
new track - Mayday Parade - "When I Get Home You're So Dead"

Never heard of it but that's an awesome song title.

kingtonyx
02-18-2010, 10:26 PM
it's near the bottom of their player (http://www.myspace.com/maydayparade)

BevoTheWarrior
02-18-2010, 10:37 PM
it's near the bottom of their player (http://www.myspace.com/maydayparade)

Wow, that's actually not bad. I may have to pick up that album now. And that track will be a definite buy when it goes live on RBN.

HeyRiles
02-18-2010, 10:38 PM
Hey...Scott Stapp went to my high school, the lead singer of Creed. Does that make me cooler?

If not, that's fine, because I was sick of my English teacher praising him whenever she could despite his drug addiction


I've heard rumors of "Some Postman" by the Presidents of the United States of America floating around in the playtest area. If anyone would be so kind as to provide an update as to whether or not it's true it would be much appreciated.

That song was first posted for playtest when RBN was still in private beta - wonder what happened to the uploading author

cherokeesam
02-18-2010, 11:24 PM
it's near the bottom of their player (http://www.myspace.com/maydayparade)

Or you could watch the official video (2.6 million hits):

When I Get Home, You're So Dead (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TcYakSym-0A)

kingtonyx
02-19-2010, 05:44 PM
Emery's tune "The Butcher's Mouth" has hit testing

Victory also brings another tune to the mix with RB vet Between The Buried And Me's "Mordecai"

Maxq333
02-19-2010, 06:01 PM
Oh my god. Mordecai is one of my favourite songs of all time. I reeeaaalllyy hope that makes it to the ps3.

Swivle
02-19-2010, 06:05 PM
YES Oh my God yes Between the Buried and me on RBN yesyesyesyesyes.

I yelled when I saw this aahhhhhhhh

snwns26
02-19-2010, 07:56 PM
Emery and BTBAM? Oh wow.. i can't even.. words.

In addition to those some cool sounding devil horns rated songs are up too.


OH MY GOD THEY JUST ADDED CIRCA SURVIVE HOLY EF
The Difference Between Medicine and Poison is in the Dose

This means Equal Vision Records is on which could mean Alexisonfire, Bear vs Shark, old Coheed, Refused, The Fall of Troy. Oh boy I need more points.

voodoo618
02-19-2010, 08:42 PM
Ew ****ing Silent Circus ****?!>@!@$!>@#$!?@#$!@$@

Gah, ****. I knew they were going to ****ing release BTBAM but ****...

ANY song off Colors wouldn't have been great, but I can't stand their Silent Circus ****.

God dammit, I love that band and am seriously disappointed. Here's to hoping more comes out.

Trugitrhero
02-19-2010, 09:49 PM
Wow.

am back after a 3-day skiing trip to see BTBAM, Circa Survive, Emery, Band of Skulls, "Scavengers of the Damned" - Aiden, and CREED!

"When I Get Home, You're So Dead - Mayday Parade is also a personal favorite, and made me very giddy!

Trugitrhero
02-19-2010, 10:21 PM
I've heard rumors of "Some Postman" by the Presidents of the United States of America floating around in the playtest area. If anyone would be so kind as to provide an update as to whether or not it's true it would be much appreciated.

I'm thinking that the reason why it isn't there anymore has something to do with this:

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=181198

...just sayin'

snwns26
02-20-2010, 12:11 AM
Push Push Lady Lightning!

And The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You is new also.

voodoo618
02-20-2010, 12:12 AM
Push Push Lady Lightning!

*runs off to download*

cherokeesam
02-20-2010, 12:14 AM
Push Push Lady Lightning!

And The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You is new also.

Add two more to my Day One Buylist. :(

(I'm teh :( because I already know I'm going broke on Opening Day. Hell, this is gonna be like buying TWO brand new RB disc games at once)

NoThru22
02-20-2010, 08:50 AM
If The Dandy Warhols put up the theme to Veronica Mars, I will plotz.

Hendrixx
02-20-2010, 10:18 AM
Bohemian Like You?!?!?!?!

HOLY FRAK YES! A band I contacted went for it :)

Awesome!

kinga49
02-20-2010, 08:49 PM
I do not see the shins or bohemian like you available. Where are you guys seeing them? Please put up a link. Thank you

kinga49
02-20-2010, 08:51 PM
Also, when will RBN be up for ps3? I am very confused.

DeltaSigMcGehee
02-20-2010, 09:22 PM
What Between The Buried & Me song is up?

Xenigma
02-20-2010, 09:24 PM
What Between The Buried & Me song is up?

Mordecai. It's pretty awesome.

DeltaSigMcGehee
02-20-2010, 09:26 PM
Mordecai. It's pretty awesome.

holy crap that is going to be fun. I cannot wait for RBN

BevoTheWarrior
02-20-2010, 09:53 PM
Push Push Lady Lightning!

And The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You is new also.

Kick-ass! Two more added to my list of must-haves.

snwns26
02-21-2010, 01:18 AM
Damone's Roll the Dice is up.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 01:24 AM
Mordecai. It's pretty awesome.

I think you meant terrible.

Alright_Computer
02-21-2010, 01:27 AM
And The Dandy Warhols - Bohemian Like You is new also.

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSS

Now I just need We Used To Be Friends and I can make a fool of myself singing along in falsetto at the top of my voice.

dman2309
02-21-2010, 01:45 AM
Are the Flight of the Conchords tracks getting any closer to being approved for launch? Are there any preview vids for them too?

Thom1234
02-21-2010, 05:51 AM
I think you meant terrible.
OK, I'm sure most people will agree that they prefer Alaska, Colors and The Great Misdirect to their previous stuff, but that doesn't mean that their earlier work isn't great as well. Also, I'm sure if Mordecai sells well, we could see more BTBAM on RBN.

Chuck_Fiasco
02-21-2010, 08:21 AM
Also, when will RBN be up for ps3? I am very confused.

The RBN for PS3 will probably only have "select" tracks from the RBN. As far as when it will go up...your guess is as good as anyone elses.

Fragory123
02-21-2010, 12:27 PM
OK, I'm sure most people will agree that they prefer Alaska, Colors and The Great Misdirect to their previous stuff, but that doesn't mean that their earlier work isn't great as well. Also, I'm sure if Mordecai sells well, we could see more BTBAM on RBN.

Mordecai?! Really?! The solo at the end of that song is awesome. I can't wait to play it!

Thom1234
02-21-2010, 12:52 PM
Mordecai?! Really?! The solo at the end of that song is awesome. I can't wait to play it!
Yep. It's up on Victory's Creators Club page. The ending solo will be epic and the drum part will be... insane.

G_tarRoCK3R
02-21-2010, 01:17 PM
Are the Flight of the Conchords tracks getting any closer to being approved for launch? Are there any preview vids for them too?

Demon Woman is in peer review at 25%

The Most Beautiful girl in the room is still in playtesting, but has all required playtests.

Songs are subject to change, don't blame me if they aren't released :p

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 01:44 PM
OK, I'm sure most people will agree that they prefer Alaska, Colors and The Great Misdirect to their previous stuff, but that doesn't mean that their earlier work isn't great as well. Also, I'm sure if Mordecai sells well, we could see more BTBAM on RBN.

The vocals in that song are ****ing terrible.

Fragory123
02-21-2010, 01:49 PM
The vocals in that song are ****ing terrible.

In your opinion. Towards the end of that song, when it gets soft, after all the chaotic blast beats and stuff, Tommy's voice is nothing short of beautiful.

dman2309
02-21-2010, 01:51 PM
Demon Woman is in peer review at 25%

The Most Beautiful girl in the room is still in playtesting, but has all required playtests.

Songs are subject to change, don't blame me if they aren't released :p

YAY PROGRESS!

Thanks for the info. Hopefully the FotC tracks will be up in time for the store launch. They are still definitely my most wanted RBN tracks.

Maxq333
02-21-2010, 02:25 PM
In your opinion. Towards the end of that song, when it gets soft, after all the chaotic blast beats and stuff, Tommy's voice is nothing short of beautiful.

Agreed. Plus Mordecai is one of their most popular songs, so it will hopefully sell well, in which case they might release more songs anyways.

Xenigma
02-21-2010, 03:39 PM
In your opinion. Towards the end of that song, when it gets soft, after all the chaotic blast beats and stuff, Tommy's voice is nothing short of beautiful.

Agreed. And even if you do hate the vocals, you should at least give the instruments a chance. The guitar part is a blast to play, and includes plenty of challenge for the hardcore players.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 04:12 PM
In your opinion. Towards the end of that song, when it gets soft, after all the chaotic blast beats and stuff, Tommy's voice is nothing short of beautiful.

Tommy's voice sounds like ass throughout the entire song.

Any of his clean vocals in Colors is beautiful, this is ass.


Agreed. And even if you do hate the vocals, you should at least give the instruments a chance. The guitar part is a blast to play, and includes plenty of challenge for the hardcore players.

I found the guitar part very annoying in the beginning and mediocre at best in the later half. The song just seems like a bad attempt at a progressive song and I hate that they picked a song from Silent Circus. I am a huge fan of Between the Buried and Me and I'm disappointed that they picked from St. Anger Silent Circus.

Fragory123
02-21-2010, 04:15 PM
Tommy's voice sounds like ass throughout the entire song.

Any of his clean vocals in Colors is beautiful, this is ass.



I found the guitar part very annoying in the beginning and mediocre at best in the later half. The song just seems like a bad attempt at a progressive song and I hate that they picked a song from Silent Circus. I am a huge fan of Between the Buried and Me and I'm disappointed that they picked from St. Anger Silent Circus.

You've got your opinion. I've got mine.

And if Mordecai sells well, we'll likely see Alaska and Selkies: The Endless Obsession from Alaska as well.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 04:22 PM
You've got your opinion. I've got mine.

And if Mordecai sells well, we'll likely see Alaska and Selkies: The Endless Obsession from Alaska as well.

I'm suprised they didn't pick Selkies.

I would think that would attract more people than Mordecai.

Maxq333
02-21-2010, 04:29 PM
Yeah, Selkies would've been even more amazing, but really I'd be happy with anything. (IF I was a 360 user. :P)

Watchmen89
02-21-2010, 04:36 PM
Man here we have people complaining about one of the coolest bands getting more songs in Rock Band.... Can't we just be happy that BTBAM got more songs? I'm not the biggest Silent Circus fan but it's still freaking BTBAM.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 04:40 PM
Man here we have people complaining about one of the coolest bands getting more songs in Rock Band.... Can't we just be happy that BTBAM got more songs? I'm not the biggest Silent Circus fan but it's still freaking BTBAM.

Almost any Metallica fan would ***** if we got St. Anger. :rolleyes:

Thom1234
02-21-2010, 04:49 PM
Almost any Metallica fan would ***** if we got St. Anger. :rolleyes:
Comparing Silent Circus (an album that is great in it's own right, but obscured by BTBAM later material) to St. Anger (a giant **** sandwich of a record that almost erased the memory of Metallica's first four albums?) No. Just..... no.

Anyway, I'm sure that if Mordecai sells well, we will see Selkies and some of their other post-SC stuff.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 05:01 PM
Comparing Silent Circus (an album that is great in it's own right, but obscured by BTBAM later material) to St. Anger (a giant **** sandwich of a record that almost erased the memory of Metallica's first four albums?) No. Just..... no.

Anyway, I'm sure that if Mordecai sells well, we will see Selkies and some of their other post-SC stuff.

Silent Circus is a joke compared to their other albums, hence my reference to St. Anger.

Fragory123
02-21-2010, 05:09 PM
My most wanted BTBAM song is actually, Informal Gluttony. I'd go crazy if that was ever released.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 05:16 PM
Sun of Nothing, White Walls; both over 10min. :(

davidshek
02-21-2010, 05:19 PM
Man here we have people complaining about one of the coolest bands getting more songs in Rock Band.... Can't we just be happy that BTBAM got more songs?

Any band from Raleigh getting more publicity is a plus in my book. :)

Fragory123
02-21-2010, 05:22 PM
Sun of Nothing, White Walls; both over 10min. :(

We can get at least 4 of the tracks from Colors. If they released Foam Born, they'd probably stick both tracks together similiar to The Hellion and Electric Eye by Judas Priest.

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 05:25 PM
We can get at least 4 of the tracks from Colors. If they released Foam Born, they'd probably stick both tracks together similiar to The Hellion and Electric Eye by Judas Priest.

Or just release them through the weekly DLC.

Watchmen89
02-21-2010, 09:09 PM
Almost any Metallica fan would ***** if we got St. Anger. :rolleyes:

I actually would like to see St. Anger in the game as it was one of the better drum songs in GH: Metallica... :D

voodoo618
02-21-2010, 09:21 PM
I actually would like to see St. Anger in the game as it was one of the better drum songs in GH: Metallica... :D

I wonder why "almost" was in my post...:rolleyes:

cherokeesam
02-21-2010, 09:56 PM
Take it to HoR already! Two pages of back-and-forth on one song from BTBAM...Jeebuz Crikey. :rolleyes:

Let's get back to RBN kicking ass, shall we? What new songs are up for review?

ThatAuthoringGroup
02-21-2010, 10:03 PM
Take it to HoR already! Two pages of back-and-forth on one song from BTBAM...Jeebuz Crikey. :rolleyes:

Let's get back to RBN kicking ass, shall we? What new songs are up for review?


Nothing so far.

It's been all quiet today.