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krisko
02-07-2010, 02:59 AM
It's no secret to everyone on this forum that Nickelback is widely considered the worst band ever. I've seen people compare their music to raw sewage, as if their ears literally started bleeding once they started listening.I know everyone is entitled to their own opinion, but these critics are unbelievably, universally negative against Nickelback, more than just about any other group. While I believe Nickelback is not a GREAT band, I feel that people are simply overreacting. I'm aware of all of the common problems people have with this group: Songs are too similar to one another, lyrics are very cliched and obvious, the music is far too commercial for specialized tastes and has no artistic desire whatsoever.

I'm going to take a stand here and say that Nickelback is really not that bad. In some ways, Nickelback is a modern incarnation of those popular FM radio bands of the late 1970s-early 80s, such as Journey and Foreigner: boilerplate, meat-and-potatoes, moderately heavy rock music designed to appeal to the broadest audience possible. Yet those bands are very fondly remembered by people who grew up listening to them on the radio, and some of the critics bashing Nickelback today are probably among that group.

Like those bands, Nickelback is generic, to be sure, but that does not make them bad. I actually feel that Nickelback does a competent job at their craft, creating catchy ballads and rockers that are fun to listen to and sing along with. Personally, there's actually WORSE stuff on the radio in my opinion, so I don't mind having Nickelback in the upper echelon of my radio prefrences.

Nickelback does not care what the critics say. They never aspired to artistic notions, and I'm perfectly OK with that.
Not every piece of music must be a stunning, substantial masterwork. Sometimes, people just want to enjoy music in the simplest way possible, and that's the opportunity Nickelback affords casual listeners.
In a way, Nickelback is like the musical equivalent of any fast-food restaurant you care to mention: It's not gourmet, but it's aware of that and it ends up filling your gut every time. At least in my case.

Gowienczyk
02-07-2010, 03:02 AM
I know they aren't on the art spectrum of music, I still retain the belief that they are one of the worst post-grunge bands ever conceived and even on the entertainment spectrum of things are terrible. Also, at least arena rock bands from the 70s were fun. Nickelback is not fun. Nickelback is like that annoying guy down the street who hasn't showered in three months and walks around with a strong sense of pride. He's the guy you want to move away from.

MrFruitLord
02-07-2010, 03:09 AM
Because their music is awful. And unlike most Generic Post Grunge bands who have probably changed their sound a little bit since they were formed, Nickelback refuses to change. And their lyrics just annoy me.

citizenCERO
02-07-2010, 03:10 AM
So wait, you're not listening to their music to get anything out of it?
You're listening to music meant to sap your wallet because it isn't intelligent, thought provoking or emotional, but it is easy to get into?
[...this sounds a lot like prostitution to me.]

Also, fast-food is usually delicious, unless you're at the seriously wrong joint.

LuigiD
02-07-2010, 03:13 AM
Face it, they overall suck. They are a disgrace to music.

a21schizoidman
02-07-2010, 03:20 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8&feature=player_embedded

Rocket2Russia
02-07-2010, 03:25 AM
Not only is there music above and beyond generic, but they symbolize all corporate trash meant to tap into the wallet and pretend to touch your heart. Not to mention that their hardcore fans are obnoxious in my experience.

tridentgum0
02-07-2010, 03:30 AM
I hate Nickelback because they're mainstream. If I listen to them, I lose cred.

krisko
02-07-2010, 03:33 AM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

a21schizoidman
02-07-2010, 03:34 AM
their music sounds like boring **** that isn't catchy, isn't impressive musically, has crappy lyrics, and no redeeming value whatsoever

FlyGuyLXI
02-07-2010, 03:37 AM
I don't like nor hate Nickelback, that I could probably name around fifty-one hundred other bands I dislike more than Nickelback. Some of the songs are pretty fun regardless of the negative crap thrown around.

Rocket2Russia
02-07-2010, 03:45 AM
I don't like nor hate Nickelback, that I could probably name around fifty other bands I would listen to Nickelback over. Some of the songs are pretty fun regardless of the negative crap thrown around.

Only fifty?

FlyGuyLXI
02-07-2010, 03:47 AM
Only fifty?

Maybe more, I just didn't want to go overboard. :p

Then again, there are only a handful of bands I truly hate.

xX_Sandman_Xx
02-07-2010, 04:17 AM
I liked them when I was a kid, but then grew out of them. However I do like their one song "Burn It To The Ground".

chumsicles
02-07-2010, 04:56 AM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

Why feel sorry for them? I'm sure Nickelback can deal with internet rage, seeing as how they're all millionaires from all the idiot fans they have who don't frequent message boards.

Are you related to any of them? Cause you seem to be awfully concerned about them, seeing as how they probably don't even know who you or any of us are

Skittles
02-07-2010, 05:38 AM
doesnt really add much, but...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xJlq94u4apM :p

animemetalhead
02-07-2010, 08:07 AM
Well, I don't hate them, I find some of their stuff mildly catchy, but then again, my favorite band is Bullet For My Valentine, which pretty much makes me the most hated attempt at metalhead.

berkthgar
02-07-2010, 08:42 AM
Nickleback is a shining example of what's wrong with the music industry today, imo. As people have said, they are a band with very little musical talent, generic lyrics, an annoying vocalist, etc etc. And yet, they are one of the top selling modern rock bands, which to me is just wrong. A band who recycles the same song over and over again doesn't deserve to sell more records than a band who actually evolves their sound and does something original.
Bottom line: In general, Nickleback is for the sheep who just eat up whatever's on the radio and care nothing about forming their own opinions on music. (IMO)

CyanFunk
02-07-2010, 09:07 AM
They right the same song over and over again. That process only works for AC/DC.

Lolicat
02-07-2010, 11:13 AM
AC/DC

Just as bad. Highway to Hell was the only half decent album they made.

afterstasis
02-07-2010, 11:49 AM
nickelback are pretty awful and all, but the reason you see so much hatred for them and not other equally bad/generic/lifeless bands is because it has been established that hating on nickelback is the right thing to do and will earn imaginary points for said hater.

half of the people who do it are probably into similar bands, and the other half just sees a rare opportunity to agree with the masses on music.

Oscar-Rio
02-07-2010, 11:54 AM
I've never really listened to nickleback outside of the random plays i hear when at bars/restaurants/stores etc. I just don't have any interest in them at all.

Birdboy.Dom
02-07-2010, 12:04 PM
To be honest I quite like Nickelback. They're not great by any means in either technical skill or sound but I just find them casually good to listen to. I don't care too much for the new album though, I mostly like stuff from Silver Side Up and The Long Road.

...here comes the flame.

Mega-Tallica
02-07-2010, 12:04 PM
For me, it's mostly because their singer is a douchebag, but also, their music is repetitive, cliche, and just boring. Plus their lyrics are laughable

ishu161
02-07-2010, 12:14 PM
they're not that bad...although i've only listened to a few of their songs. i like savin' me, but my fav has to be rockstar, not profound, but really enjoyable lyrics. now i think about it, most of their songs really are repetitive, and almost the same...but rockstar will always be the song when i want to listen to mindless,enjoyable music :D

overcookedbacon
02-07-2010, 01:27 PM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

Nickelback is the perfect storm of mediocrity. You could make a list of all the various reasons that some people don't like generic post-grunge bands, and most of those bands would only cover a few of those reasons. Nickelback is the only single band that manages to cover every last one of them, and even some that wouldn't have been on that list.

citizenCERO
02-07-2010, 01:40 PM
they're not that bad...although i've only listened to a few of their songs. i like savin' me, but my fav has to be rockstar, not profound, but really enjoyable lyrics. now i think about it, most of their songs really are repetitive, and almost the same...but rockstar will always be the song when i want to listen to mindless,enjoyable music :D

Of all the things to do wrong on your very first post...

a21schizoidman
02-07-2010, 02:54 PM
Of all the things to do wrong on your very first post...

it's probably chad kroeger

Alright_Computer
02-07-2010, 03:04 PM
A better question is, "Why do people LIKE Nickelback"?

a21schizoidman
02-07-2010, 03:06 PM
A better question is, "Why do people LIKE Nickelback"?

exactly what i was about to post

xX_Sandman_Xx
02-07-2010, 03:41 PM
They right the same song over and over again. That process only works for AC/DC.

Yeah I guess, but even they get a bit repetitive. Don' t get me wrong they're a gr8 band and one of my favorites, but most of the time I like it when a band changes they're sound with each album (The Beatles, Guns N Roses, NIN, etc.).

LegendofRock3021
02-07-2010, 03:58 PM
Just as bad. Highway to Hell was the only half decent album they made.

I'd say they had some other good albums in the Bon Scott era, but I may be a bit biased in that regard.

chumsicles
02-07-2010, 04:11 PM
they're not that bad...although i've only listened to a few of their songs. i like savin' me, but my fav has to be rockstar, not profound, but really enjoyable lyrics. now i think about it, most of their songs really are repetitive, and almost the same...but rockstar will always be the song when i want to listen to mindless,enjoyable music :D

His voice is soooo annoying on Rockstar, I honestly have no idea how this music can be considered marketable to the masses when they've got such an irritating vocalist

Rocket2Russia
02-07-2010, 04:44 PM
His voice is soooo annoying on Rockstar, I honestly have no idea how this music can be considered marketable to the masses when they've got such an irritating vocalist

That song is almost tolerable until the "I'll have a quesadilla" bull**** dude starts talking, and then it goes from awful to I'd rather step in dog ****.

Lameboy19
02-07-2010, 06:05 PM
the only thing I like about Nickelback is that they aren't BrokeNCYDE

and that photoshoped picture from the video for photograph, but instead of the regular picture its a goatse picture


but aside from that, they are no bettter than a boy band trying to steal your money by paying restaurants, radio stations, tv stations to play there music. Because if you play the same thing over, and over again people will be forced to like or be an outcast to mainstream society.

a21schizoidman
02-07-2010, 06:28 PM
http://explosm.net/comics/1156/

SpoonQuest
02-07-2010, 08:56 PM
the only thing I like about Nickelback is that they aren't BrokeNCYDE

and that photoshoped picture from the video for photograph, but instead of the regular picture its a goatse picture


but aside from that, they are no bettter than a boy band trying to steal your money by paying restaurants, radio stations, tv stations to play there music. Because if you play the same thing over, and over again people will be forced to like or be an outcast to mainstream society.

Oh god, not the BrokeNCYDE!!!

onidragon
02-08-2010, 01:29 AM
I dislike them because they play the same 3 mediocre songs over and over, their guitar playing is cliched sub-Pearl Jam grungy crap, and their singer sounds like Kurt Cobain's evil, mentally challenged brother, and he's a real dick.

BuRn7 CaK3
02-08-2010, 03:26 AM
I used to like them. I mean really like them, but that was during their Silver Side Up days. But they never ever seem to change. It seems like they do the same songs over and over again. Or they make songs about sex, "something" in your mouth. And the sad part about them... is they will still be around. Honestly, I'd love for them to drop into the sun. I can't stand them anymore. They're repetitive and boring. Also, Chad is a huge douchebag.

Rockbandfan23467
02-08-2010, 03:40 AM
Because they are Christian Rock (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sB9E8mRP6E)

polishdog90
02-08-2010, 04:34 AM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

Don't worry, Nickleback is not the only generic group that is hated. Bring up some other mainstream rock groups and I'm sure you will get some of the same responses. There is plenty of hate for everyone!

Masterdramon
02-08-2010, 07:02 AM
nickelback are pretty awful and all, but the reason you see so much hatred for them and not other equally bad/generic/lifeless bands is because it has been established that hating on nickelback is the right thing to do and will earn imaginary points for said hater.

half of the people who do it are probably into similar bands, and the other half just sees a rare opportunity to agree with the masses on music.
This. Nickelback is no worse than a good hundred or so extremely similar bands, but because they currently happen to be the most popular post-grunge band they get scapegoated for all (perceived) sins of the genre.

Frankly, a good deal of people focus their hatred on Nickelback because it's the cool thing to do in a forum like this. Nevermind that complaints like "uninspired lyrics" and "formulaic songs" could be applied to an enormous number of bands throughout music history; Nickelback is an easy target, so they get the blame.

Honestly, my guess is that most people complaining about how Nickelback's songs all sound the same have probably only listened to 2 or 3 of their songs at most, because unless you define "the same" extremely broadly then that statement is blatantly untrue.

Personally, I like Nickelback, at least at certain times. I don't consider them brilliant or even good, really, but their songs tend to be fairly enjoyable and easy to digest. If I'm busy doing something else and I just want music in the background, I find them to be a decent pick.

Why that bothers so many people here I won't even attempt to fathom, but I'm past caring about it.

ArmsAreLoud
02-08-2010, 10:00 AM
They are the masters of being average. They are in fact so average that you can either be a closet fan or despise them in the most vehement fashion. There are no alternatives.

Soror_YZBL
02-08-2010, 12:34 PM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

I feel sorry for them having no talent.

I don't like nickleback because their music is insipid, uninspired, lazy, and stupid. Their music is for idiots, and luckily (or unluckily, depending on perspective) I am not stupid enough to like them.

generalbane
02-09-2010, 12:38 AM
See what I mean, so many people are vehement against Nickelback. Why do so many people believe their music is just awful? I don't get it. I just do not get it. Why is the reaction so negative? There are many bands who have generic music and cliched lyrics, yet Nickelback seems to be the ONE GROUP everyone is out to get. I'm an intelligent person. I can also appreciate when a band puts out a perfectly competent body of material, and that's what Nickelback's music is. I never said they were a great band, or that I was even a fan, but I just can't help but feel a little sorry for all the bad reactions they get.

They invented what I call poser rock, aka "mainstream rock". The reason that the modern rock scene is such a joke right now is because of these guys. Everyone that wants to be a famous rock star wants to be the next Nickleback. Therefore, they try to sound just like them. This is where we get bands like Saving Abel and Creed, who are some of the worst bands I've ever heard. I blame Nickleback for ruining the modern rock scene. Oh yeah, their music simply sucks too

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 12:40 AM
They invented what I call poser rock, aka "mainstream rock". The reason that the modern rock scene is such a joke right now is because of these guys. Everyone that wants to be a famous rock star wants to be the next Nickleback. Therefore, they try to sound just like them. This is where we get bands like Saving Abel and Creed, who are some of the worst bands I've ever heard. I blame Nickleback for ruining the modern rock scene. Oh yeah, their music simply sucks too

i could be wrong, but didn't creed precede nickelback?

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 12:43 AM
i could be wrong, but didn't creed precede nickelback?
just looked it up, and Creed apparently formed a year earlier, but their debut came out a year later


now excuse me, i must shower and format my computer for looking that up

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 12:47 AM
just looked it up, and Creed apparently formed a year earlier, but their debut came out a year later


now excuse me, i must shower and format my computer for looking that up

hahaha, i don't think i even heard of nickelback until creed's early hits had been making life a little worse for at least three or four years.

i kinda always thought of nickelback as "creed without the goat-guy singing".

schmeankman
02-09-2010, 12:48 AM
i could be wrong, but didn't creed precede nickelback?
I went to wikipedia to check and...



http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n428/schmeankman/creedpedia.jpg

citizenCERO
02-09-2010, 12:48 AM
Creed hit it big before Nickelback
But Nickelback's much worse.

generalbane
02-09-2010, 12:51 AM
So they were contemporaries, which might be even worse. They don't do what they do because they love music and want to give an audience something that truly inspires them. They want to be famous, they want money. That is what I think ticks me off the most about them. Why can't we go back to the days when mainstream was actually good?

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 12:51 AM
Creed hit it big before Nickelback
But Nickelback's much worse.

i would probably agree if i could hear creed without remembering that music video of theirs i once saw.

then again, i imagine nickelback's videos aren't on a much higher plane.

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 12:51 AM
I went to wikipedia to check and...



http://i338.photobucket.com/albums/n428/schmeankman/creedpedia.jpg

i'm quoting that because that's the best thing to ever happen to wikipedia, thank you schmeank


Creed is an American rock band from Tallahassee, Florida, that became popular in the late 1990s and early 2000s. Some experts have come out with reports tying the bands popularity to poor water quality. The band disbanded in 2004 after being personally shamed by Jesus, choosing after to move back to the horrid place where they were first spawned, all this after three multi-platinum albums, selling 26 million records in the United States[1] and an estimated 35 million records worldwide.[2][3][4]

The band consists of guitarist and backing vocalist Mark Tremonti, lead vocalist, c*ck flute Turd Ferguson, drummer Scott Phillips and bassist Brian Marshall. They released two studio albums: My Own Prison (1997), Human Clay (1999) before Marshall left in 2000 to be replaced by touring bassist Brett Hestla. Afterwards came Weathered (2001) with Mark Tremonti handling bass before the band disbanded in 2004. Tremonti, Phillips and Marshall went to found Alter Bridge while Stapp followed solo career. The original members of Creed reunited in 2009 for a new album Full Circle (2009) and tour.

supernova1324
02-09-2010, 12:54 AM
"The band disbanded in 2004 after being personally shamed by Jesus, "

Made me laugh out loud for real.

generalbane
02-09-2010, 12:54 AM
That just made my week

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 12:55 AM
"The band disbanded in 2004 after being personally shamed by Jesus, "

Made me laugh out loud for real.
that and the **** flute part did the same for me

Jglaubman
02-09-2010, 01:00 AM
Because everyone else does. Duh!

I've never listened to any of their songs from start to finish so I can't say whether I like them or not. But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 01:03 AM
Because everyone else does. Duh!

I've never listened to any of their songs from start to finish so I can't say whether I like them or not. But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pvujgcbaCF8&feature=player_embedded

that sums up their discography pretty much

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 01:04 AM
But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

with singles that awful why should anyone waste their time with countless other bands in existence?

supernova1324
02-09-2010, 01:04 AM
Because everyone else does. Duh!

I've never listened to any of their songs from start to finish so I can't say whether I like them or not. But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

Why would I want to torture myself listening to an entire album of theirs when I've already heard plenty of their songs and hated them all?

Jglaubman
02-09-2010, 01:08 AM
I'm not saying you should listen to their albums. And I see why people might hate them (making "crappy" music and making an ass ton of money... that pisses people off). But I think it's a little unnecessary to go around saying "they suck"...

Ahh.. you know what... while I was typing that I changed my mind. They do make an ass ton of money... call them whatever you want. But someone who wants Nickelback in Rock Band shouldn't be flamed. That I still believe.

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 01:10 AM
i don't think too many people go around saying that nickelback sucks, usually that's just a fact known by everyone that doesn't need to be said

BuRn7 CaK3
02-09-2010, 01:10 AM
I've never listened to any of their songs from start to finish so I can't say whether I like them or not. But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

Along with any other band they "hate"

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 01:12 AM
I'm not saying you should listen to their albums. And I see why people might hate them (making "crappy" music and making an ass ton of money... that pisses people off). But I think it's a little unnecessary to go around saying "they suck"...

Ahh.. you know what... while I was typing that I changed my mind. They do make an ass ton of money... call them whatever you want. But someone who wants Nickelback in Rock Band shouldn't be flamed. That I still believe.

oh, it's a tired subject that ranks down amongst forum games and metallica VS megadeth threads, but the forums are dead and it's too damn cold to do anything else.

Masterdramon
02-09-2010, 01:17 AM
i don't think too many people go around saying that nickelback sucks
In real life...probably.

On these forums, however, it seems like no one can shut the Hell up about it. Anytime that Nickelback's name is mentioned here, regardless of the context, flamers will immediately pounce on the opportunity to compare Nickelback to fecal matter, etc.

The fact that a lot of people don't like the band doesn't bother me. The fact that so many users here seem obsessed with insulting a single band somewhat does.

Rocket2Russia
02-09-2010, 01:36 AM
In real life...probably.

On these forums, however, it seems like no one can shut the Hell up about it. Anytime that Nickelback's name is mentioned here, regardless of the context, flamers will immediately pounce on the opportunity to compare Nickelback to fecal matter, etc.

The fact that a lot of people don't like the band doesn't bother me. The fact that so many users here seem obsessed with insulting a single band somewhat does.

It's comparable only to the obsessive nature of many people on this board to claim The Beatles are God incarnate whenever they're mentioned.

I frankly see no difference.

XacharyCross
02-09-2010, 10:11 AM
They're overplayed massively on the radio. Every CD since Silver Side Up has had a single using the same chord/times of How You Remind Me. Chad Kroeger has made a fool of himself in almost any media appearance he's ever had, and his vocal style is such that it's either your thing or not, mostly.

That's not to say there aren't a few songs across however many albums they have now that are tolerable, or even slightly above average. But by far they really have kind of mass produced themselves into total staleness. I'd prefer a band that goes off radar for 3-4 years between albums and manages to change it up a bit then getting the yearly Nickelback album of mostly rehash.

overcookedbacon
02-09-2010, 05:51 PM
I've never listened to any of their songs from start to finish so I can't say whether I like them or not. But I can almost guarantee that 95% of people who "hate" them have never bothered to listen to any of their albums from start to finish.

I've hated every Nickelback song I've ever heard even a single verse of, and since I live in Canada and the radio here plays them more frequently than any other band, I've been forced to hear quite a few. Never once have I heard a Nickelback song and thought to myself "God, this is so awful... I'd better go buy an album by this band just to confirm how awful they are."

You don't need to eat the entire container of licorice to know just how terrible it is.

franticfish
02-09-2010, 05:56 PM
it pains me to say that one my best friends is a nickelback fan, dude's nearly 30 as well.

a21schizoidman
02-09-2010, 06:19 PM
it pains me to say that one my best friends is a nickelback fan, dude's nearly 30 as well.

you're friends with someone in the band?

BuRn7 CaK3
02-09-2010, 06:30 PM
The real question here is, why does it matter what people like and don't like? Everyone has different tastes, and that's a proven fact. People will like bands you don't and you won't like bands that other people don't. If someone likes Nickelback, let them like Nickelback. It doesn't change anything. Music is music, and it's there for your enjoyment. You enjoy what you like don't you? Then people enjoy listening to Nickelback.

Lameboy19
02-09-2010, 06:34 PM
Nickelback is one of those all encompassing evils that a majority of people can agree on, like murder or rape, but it's not the worst, I've seen the worst (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cAzv025N6n0)

something tells me that it's only going to go downhill from here

Bub
02-09-2010, 07:36 PM
I just hope some Nickelback fans wake up someday and realize they listen to complete s***.

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 07:43 PM
I just hope some Nickelback fans wake up someday and realize they listen to complete s***.

hopefully it also happens to fans of coldplay, death cab for cutie, anthrax, the eagles, mr bungle, rage against the machine, the arcade fire, etc. ;)

Rocket2Russia
02-09-2010, 07:45 PM
hopefully it also happens to fans of coldplay, death cab for cutie, anthrax, the eagles, mr bungle, rage against the machine, the arcade fire, etc. ;)

wut

Bub
02-09-2010, 07:46 PM
hopefully it also happens to fans of coldplay, death cab for cutie, anthrax, the eagles, mr bungle, rage against the machine, the arcade fire, etc. ;)

Only one of those bands you mentioned are complete garbage.

Gowienczyk
02-09-2010, 07:48 PM
hopefully it also happens to fans of coldplay, death cab for cutie, anthrax, the eagles, mr bungle, rage against the machine, the arcade fire, etc. ;)

Why you attackin' me?

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 07:51 PM
Only one of those bands you mentioned are complete garbage.

i'd say all those bands are as bad as nickelback, some of them even worse.

Rocket2Russia
02-09-2010, 07:54 PM
i'd say all those bands are as bad as nickelback, some of them even worse.

:eek: u must be trollan

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 07:55 PM
no one hates the eagles like i do.

Gowienczyk
02-09-2010, 07:55 PM
:eek: u must be trollan

Naw, RATM is def. worse.

tridentgum0
02-09-2010, 07:55 PM
Only garbage bands I see are Coldplay, RATM, and Arcade Fire.

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 07:58 PM
i'm not trolling. i don't do that.

i just picked a variety of bands that i know are well-received amongst posters here that i think are on par with nickelback since the premise of this thread should be "different strokes for different folks".

i also haven't had a chance to talk about how bad the eagles are in quite some time.

chumsicles
02-09-2010, 08:04 PM
As someone who considers California one of the greatest albums made by anyone ever, I must say I am all kinds of disappointed in you

afterstasis
02-09-2010, 08:05 PM
As someone who considers California one of the greatest albums made by anyone ever, I must say I am all kinds of disappointed in you

it's a sad day for us both, chumsicles. :p

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
02-09-2010, 08:20 PM
no one hates the eagles like i do.

:(

Idiostock
02-09-2010, 08:33 PM
i also haven't had a chance to talk about how bad the eagles are in quite some time.

As a person that likes to hear all varieties of opinion, I'd like to read such a rant.

seriousbusson
02-09-2010, 10:02 PM
no one hates the eagles like i do.

I don't know, I come pretty close.

a21schizoidman
02-10-2010, 12:11 AM
As someone who considers California one of the greatest albums made by anyone ever, I must say I am all kinds of disappointed in you
it's not even the best Eagles album...

chumsicles
02-10-2010, 12:14 AM
it's not even the best Eagles album...

Now although I'm almost positive you are joking, I cannot risk people thinking that I am at all an Eagles fan.


I was talking about the Mr. Bungle album

a21schizoidman
02-10-2010, 12:31 AM
Now although I'm almost positive you are joking, I cannot risk people thinking that I am at all an Eagles fan.


I was talking about the Mr. Bungle album

i know, it was just a joke, albeit a bad one, although i have seen people put Hotel California as the best Eagles as well, which makes me want to hurt them

schmeankman
02-10-2010, 12:50 AM
no one hates the eagles like i do.
You better like Poco, dammit.

ArmsAreLoud
02-10-2010, 12:54 AM
Well, as long as we're attacking bands that the general public seems to enjoy, the Beatles suck. Hard. The majority of their stuff is bland and generic, and in reality they really didn't influence much of the rock scene; many bands CLAIM to be influenced by the Beatles, but in reality if they are any good they're probably influenced by someone why was influenced by The Who, The Kinks, or any of the other 60's bands that actually played rock music rather then mainstream pop tinted with light blues elements on rare occasions.

afterstasis
02-10-2010, 12:54 AM
You better like Poco, dammit.

not really, though i was never big on much buffalo springfield either.

neckermanncj
02-10-2010, 01:00 AM
Well, as long as we're attacking bands that the general public seems to enjoy, the Beatles suck. Hard. The majority of their stuff is bland and generic, and in reality they really didn't influence much of the rock scene; many bands CLAIM to be influenced by the Beatles, but in reality if they are any good they're probably influenced by someone why was influenced by The Who, The Kinks, or any of the other 60's bands that actually played rock music rather then mainstream pop tinted with light blues elements on rare occasions.

pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about

schmeankman
02-10-2010, 01:01 AM
not really, though i was never big on much buffalo springfield either.
Am I the only one who likes cheesy vinyl-dollar-bin country rock?*



*That does not include Buffalo Springfield

Gowienczyk
02-10-2010, 01:02 AM
Well, as long as we're attacking bands that the general public seems to enjoy, the Beatles suck. Hard. The majority of their stuff is bland and generic, and in reality they really didn't influence much of the rock scene; many bands CLAIM to be influenced by the Beatles, but in reality if they are any good they're probably influenced by someone why was influenced by The Who, The Kinks, or any of the other 60's bands that actually played rock music rather then mainstream pop tinted with light blues elements on rare occasions.

You just had to go and do it...

chumsicles
02-10-2010, 01:03 AM
pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about

This.

afterstasis
02-10-2010, 01:09 AM
Am I the only one who likes cheesy vinyl-dollar-bin country rock?*



*That does not include Buffalo Springfield

oh, i dig my share and am actually in the middle of downloading digital copies of my old long ryders LP's that i can't seem to find.

XacharyCross
02-10-2010, 01:12 AM
I usually view it as the Beatles were a cover/pop group that eventually took on influences from emerging newer bands (which they've said themselves over the years), had the money/clout to get them put out, and passed them on to other bands. They're the middlemen of influences, as it were.

ArmsAreLoud
02-10-2010, 01:15 AM
pretty sure you don't know what you're talking about

I'd probably take that seriously from someone else, but eh.

@Gowie: I am quite aware. Trust me, after hating the Beatles as long as I have you become very much aware of how much people will hate you for it. Just couldn't pass up the opportunity. :P

@Xachary: Sounds reasonable, that's kind of the way I view the Yardbirds, too.

schmeankman
02-10-2010, 01:16 AM
oh, i dig my share and am actually in the middle of downloading digital copies of my old long ryders LP's that i can't seem to find.
Ha, I've got 'Native Sons' on cassette, which, with Patsy Cline's Greatest Hits and the Jesus & Mary Chain's debut, form my lineup of the only 3 cassettes I ever listen to.

afterstasis
02-10-2010, 01:16 AM
I usually view it as the Beatles were a cover/pop group that eventually took on influences from emerging newer bands (which they've said themselves over the years), had the money/clout to get them put out, and passed them on to other bands. They're the middlemen of influences, as it were.

they displayed their share of personal innovation as well (in addition to fusing many lesser known elements together), but this is correct otherwise.

chumsicles
02-10-2010, 01:34 AM
I usually view it as the Beatles were a cover/pop group that eventually took on influences from emerging newer bands (which they've said themselves over the years), had the money/clout to get them put out, and passed them on to other bands. They're the middlemen of influences, as it were.

You're oversimplifying this. They took their influences and wrote music that obviously owed debt to their favorite rockabilly and girl-group acts but at the same time eclipsed anything their influences actually ever accomplished. Even in their early setlists, their few original songs were way better than any of the covers they were playing, a trend that would continue as they began releasing albums

RidethePiggy
02-10-2010, 01:19 PM
I don't know if anyone posted this but...

This website will inform you. (http://www.isnickelbacktheworstbandever.com/)

MrFruitLord
02-10-2010, 10:58 PM
anthrax

It hurts man, it hurts.

ArmsAreLoud
02-11-2010, 01:07 AM
RATM isn't terrible either. Highly overrated, but still a pretty good band. One of the best rhythm sections of... well, ever. Shame de la Rocha and Morello get all the publicity.

Gowienczyk
02-11-2010, 01:16 AM
RATM isn't terrible either. Highly overrated, but still a pretty good band. One of the best rhythm sections of... well, ever. Shame de la Rocha and Morello get all the publicity.

Wrong.

Rockbandfan23467
02-11-2010, 01:34 AM
LOLOPNION.

By the way, did nobody watch that video I posted?

animemetalhead
02-11-2010, 01:45 AM
Wrong.

Agreed.

back_blows
02-11-2010, 01:47 AM
I can't listen to anything Morello touches.

neckermanncj
02-11-2010, 02:01 AM
RATM are pretty okay, i can listen to them only on occasion. i do agree with their lyrical themes however...

Gowienczyk
02-11-2010, 02:52 AM
I can't listen to anything Morello touches.

This.

SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWOOSH

Frickin' annoying.

afterstasis
02-11-2010, 09:09 AM
I can't listen to anything Morello touches.

i've taken it a step further and don't think i've heard anything aside from RATM and one audioslave song...
oh, and that solo wank thing he did for guitar hero 3.

Mega-Tallica
02-11-2010, 10:56 AM
This.

SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWOOSH

Frickin' annoying.

Lol, I agree

TheCrimsonSaint
02-11-2010, 05:47 PM
Well, this thread is no longer about Nickelback, I see. Probably for the best.

Runesmith
02-11-2010, 05:53 PM
This.

SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWOOSH

Frickin' annoying.

You also forgot WOW WOW WIKKA WOW WOW.

back_blows
02-11-2010, 05:56 PM
Wasn't aware that Morello wrote porno music.

neckermanncj
02-11-2010, 08:25 PM
This.

SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWIKA SWOOSH

Frickin' annoying.


Wasn't aware that Morello wrote porno music.


You also forgot WOW WOW WIKKA WOW WOW.

LOLING!


also /thread (http://www.isnickelbacktheworstbandever.com/)

Soror_YZBL
02-12-2010, 01:21 PM
I'm humming along. Wikka wikka wah wah wikka wikka wah wah BULLS ON PARADE!

Morello was tight on the first rage album though. Then he stopped playing guitar and started playing with his guitar. I like his folk music much better.

back_blows
02-12-2010, 01:27 PM
It also doesn't help RATM's case that Zack de la Rocha is annoying as ****.

Alright_Computer
02-12-2010, 11:10 PM
It also doesn't help RATM's case that Zack de la Rocha is annoying as ****.

YA DUDE COMMUNIST REVOLUTION! PEOPLE UPRISING! DON'T TRUST THE MEN IN SUITS, THEY CAN'T TELL YOU WHAT TO DO! AND l CAN'T PRONOUNCE THE LETTER "S" CORRECTLY!

racethis
02-12-2010, 11:12 PM
Not sure. I always liked em and I'm a metalhead. But I can't hate on Nickelback, they are good.

back_blows
02-12-2010, 11:18 PM
ya dude communist revolution! People uprising! Don't trust the men in suits, they can't tell you what to do! And l can't pronounce the letter "s" correctly!

...now testify...help your fellow brotha....**** the government....please testify (chicka chicka wicka wowa).

a21schizoidman
02-13-2010, 12:20 AM
ehh, RATM is bad music, but i still enjoy them in small doses

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
02-13-2010, 12:30 AM
What Schiz said.

LegendofRock3021
02-13-2010, 12:33 AM
What Schiz said.

Thirded.

DethTung
02-13-2010, 03:30 AM
But I can't hate on Nickelback, they are good.

:eek:

You better run like the wind, boy. That happens to be one of HoR's many Berserk Buttons.

DethTung
02-13-2010, 03:37 AM
...now testify...help your fellow brotha....**** the government....please testify (chicka chicka wicka wowa).

He just kept talking in one long incredibly unbroken sentence, moving from topic to topic so that no one had to chance to interrupt it but really quite hypnotic....

Yeah, that made -3 and a half sense out of ten.

seriousbusson
02-13-2010, 02:59 PM
It also doesn't help RATM's case that Zack de la Rocha is annoying as ****.

He sounds like a Beastie Boy.

TheCrimsonSaint
02-13-2010, 03:24 PM
He sounds like a Beastie Boy.

Not quite that bad.

Lameboy19
02-13-2010, 04:52 PM
He sounds like a Beastie Boy.

if the beastie boys started to suck all of a sudden (yeah I said it)

animemetalhead
02-13-2010, 05:01 PM
if the beastie boys started to suck all of a sudden (yeah I said it)

Like they don't already?

afterstasis
02-13-2010, 05:04 PM
even the worst beastie boys material trumps RATM.

a21schizoidman
02-13-2010, 05:05 PM
hatin' on the Beastie Boys is the fast track to my hate list

Lameboy19
02-13-2010, 05:05 PM
Like they don't already?


"Hold It Now, Hit It" will (to me at least) always solidify them as great hip hop artists the whole album Time To Get Ill actually I consider one of the better things to come out of the 90's

tridentgum0
02-13-2010, 06:59 PM
hatin' on the Beastie Boys is the fast track to my hate list

So, is that why you hate me?

CyanFunk
02-13-2010, 07:23 PM
He sounds like a Beastie Boy.

Wait, so he sounds awesome?

a21schizoidman
02-13-2010, 07:45 PM
So, is that why you hate me?

nah, i hate you for that really crappy wannabe party school in columbus

TheCrimsonSaint
02-13-2010, 07:50 PM
Ohio State's campus is ****ing beautiful.

/randomgettinginthemiddleofargument

seriousbusson
02-13-2010, 09:04 PM
The Boys are great, but I used to think that "Killing in the Name" was a Beastie song because of Zac's vocals. I get the same vibe from Perry Farrell, and I thought the same thing with "Been Caught Stealing".

Weird, I know.

Alright_Computer
02-13-2010, 10:27 PM
He sounds like a Beastie Boy.

Except the Beastie Boys are infinitely more awesome. And they have way more flow and lyrical prowess than de la Rocha do. But I guess they all fall under the white guys rapping banner.

macamatic
02-14-2010, 04:04 AM
I can't listen to anything Morello touches.
It's worth noting that outside of RATM and stuff like his battle in GH3, he stops stroking his guitar like a 12-year-old home alone and actually...plays guitar. Audioslave is a good example of this. Even the solos sound like...guitar. Ejemplo (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7QU1nvuxaMA#t=2m55s) (it's actually a pretty good solo too, imo).

Also, to the guy who posted that "Starbucks Girl" video: I hate you. I paused Ayreon for that ****. At least brokeNCYDE is funny.

CommonCriminal
02-14-2010, 04:41 AM
Because they suck.

GodKilla666
02-14-2010, 04:45 AM
The real question here is, why does it matter what people like and don't like? Everyone has different tastes, and that's a proven fact. People will like bands you don't and you won't like bands that other people don't. If someone likes Nickelback, let them like Nickelback. It doesn't change anything. Music is music, and it's there for your enjoyment. You enjoy what you like don't you? Then people enjoy listening to Nickelback.

I agree 100%. People have different tastes. I'm not a fan, but to come on and say things like "of all the things not to do in your 1st post" or "only stupid people like nickelback", well that's just plain old ignorance.

Rocket2Russia
02-14-2010, 11:11 AM
I agree 100%. People have different tastes. I'm not a fan, but to come on and say things like "of all the things not to do in your 1st post" or "only stupid people like nickelback", well that's just plain old ignorance.

In all fairness, the former remark wasn't to mean that he was stupid for liking a band: it was to caution him that there's going to be a ****storm, and there was.

onidragon
02-15-2010, 08:58 PM
Not sure. I always liked em and I'm a metalhead. But I can't hate on Nickelback, they are good.

Obvious troll is obvious.

Masterdramon
02-15-2010, 10:13 PM
Obvious troll is obvious.
Someone expressing an opinion that you do not agree with ≠ trolling.

LemonG
02-15-2010, 10:31 PM
what the **** is wrong with nickelback, they're new songs suck **** yes but it proves they change, people say all their songs sound the same but how does "Burn it to the Ground" sound ANYTHING like "If today was you're last day"????? Honestly I think people wanted a rock band to hate, so they chose the one least appealing to them, but one they wouldnt normaly hate. If you're gonna hate a rock band, hate something crappy like Metric or something

a21schizoidman
02-15-2010, 10:33 PM
people hate Nickelback the same reason they hate all the other ****ty bands to ever pick up instruments, because they suck ass

Runesmith
02-15-2010, 10:38 PM
what the **** is wrong with nickelback, they're new songs suck **** yes but it proves they change, people say all their songs sound the same but how does "Burn it to the Ground" sound ANYTHING like "If today was you're last day"????? Honestly I think people wanted a rock band to hate, so they chose the one least appealing to them, but one they wouldnt normaly hate. If you're gonna hate a rock band, hate something crappy like Metric or something

Eh. I always felt Metric was kind of an average indie-lite alt-rock band, but Emily can sing well, at least.

Nickelback, on the other hand...

a21schizoidman
02-15-2010, 10:43 PM
yeah, Metric is just boring, Nickelback sounds worse than pigs being slaughtered

DarthAthema
02-15-2010, 10:56 PM
They are the new punching bag. It used to be Creed, now it's Nickelback. Usually when a mediocre band reaches that level of success, they become the poster child for all the hate. Time will tell if they retain any nostalgia value for people that like them now, but they seem pretty disposable to me.
I personally don't like them because there is much better music I'd rather be listening to. They don't even make corny music that's sort of fun like Journey. Their lyrics are misogynistic also, and that bothers me.
But overall I agree with your point. There are lots of worse or equally bad bands out there, but Nickelback unfairly takes a lot of the crap.

FlyGuyLXI
02-15-2010, 11:05 PM
. If you're gonna hate a rock band, hate something crappy like Metric or something

A chill just went down my spine. I have nothing against Nickelback either, but Metric are notches higher on the pyramid...


Eh. I always felt Metric was kind of an average indie-lite alt-rock band, but Emily can sing well, at least.

Nickelback, on the other hand...


yeah, Metric is just boring, Nickelback sounds worse than pigs being slaughtered

...for me at least. :o


They are the new punching bag. It used to be Creed, now it's Nickelback.

I can see why Nickelback, but I never understood why people hated Creed. Maybe because they're popular, but that's all I can think of. I enjoy them in doses.

Rocket2Russia
02-15-2010, 11:14 PM
i can see why nickelback, but i never understood why people hated creed. Maybe because they're popular, but that's all i can think of. I enjoy them in doses.

WITH ARMS WIDE OPA-AHN
WELCOME TO THIS PLACE
ILL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING
AWWWW YEAHHHH

^Pretty much why I can't stand 'em. Not because of the popularity, but because it hurts my ears.

FlyGuyLXI
02-15-2010, 11:19 PM
WITH ARMS WIDE OPA-AHN
WELCOME TO THIS PLACE
ILL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING
AWWWW YEAHHHH

^Pretty much why I can't stand 'em. Not because of the popularity, but because it hurts my ears.

That's actually one of my favorite songs by them, but different tastes for different buds I suppose.

a21schizoidman
02-15-2010, 11:20 PM
i can't think of a single band i like or dislike because of how popular they are, i judge bands on the music they make, just like i judge movies by watching them

Mega-Tallica
02-15-2010, 11:27 PM
WITH ARMS WIDE OPA-AHN
WELCOME TO THIS PLACE
ILL SHOW YOU EVERYTHING
AWWWW YEAHHHH

^Pretty much why I can't stand 'em. Not because of the popularity, but because it hurts my ears.

That's probably one of their worst songs

For me, Creed's songs that didn't make it on radio are their better songs.

BuRn7 CaK3
02-16-2010, 12:19 AM
i can't think of a single band i like or dislike because of how popular they are, i judge bands on the music they make, just like i judge movies by watching them

+1

That's the way I do it too. Kind of falls into the point I made earlier in this thread.

back_blows
02-16-2010, 12:52 AM
I can see why Nickelback, but I never understood why people hated Creed.

Scott Stapp.

XacharyCross
02-16-2010, 07:27 AM
Scott Stapp.

Yeah, your front man being full of himself and a bit of jackass usually gets your band flak (And it applies to Nickelback too)

ace360
03-16-2010, 07:09 PM
I like nickelback

MrFruitLord
03-16-2010, 07:10 PM
Why on Earth did you bring this thread back?

Train05
03-16-2010, 07:14 PM
For me its becuz they sound too Generic. They are like a lot of the other new age bands.

ace360
03-16-2010, 07:25 PM
Why on Earth did you bring this thread back?

I was bored and I don't dislike nickelback.

FlyGuyLXI
03-16-2010, 07:47 PM
For me its becuz they sound too Generic. They are like a lot of the other new age bands.

You mean new age as in rock music today, or new age as in Enya?

Rockbandfan23467
03-16-2010, 08:09 PM
Because they started Post-Post-Grunge.

TheCrimsonSaint
03-17-2010, 11:58 AM
For me its becuz they sound too Generic. They are like a lot of the other new age bands.

Generic is an awful, awful word for describing music.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 12:45 PM
Generic is an awful, awful word for describing music.

One of the words I hate with a passion when describing music.

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 02:13 PM
The only people that hate the word generic are the ones listening to generic music. :p

Cubecubed
03-17-2010, 02:14 PM
The only people that hate the word generic are the ones listening to generic music. :p

Quoted for truth.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 03:04 PM
The only people that hate the word generic are the ones listening to generic music. :p

If you want to get technical, isn't all music considered generic? Since it seems that NOTHING is ever original anymore.

Yeah, exactly.

chumsicles
03-17-2010, 03:53 PM
The only people that hate the word generic are the ones listening to generic music. :p

This



If you want to get technical, isn't all music considered generic? Since it seems that NOTHING is ever original anymore.

Not at all. If you bothered to dig into music even a little bit, you'd see that isn't true at all

a21schizoidman
03-17-2010, 04:14 PM
If you want to get technical, isn't all music considered generic? Since it seems that NOTHING is ever original anymore.

Yeah, exactly.

... (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H2UtelFUTCo)

SynesterSeX
03-17-2010, 04:18 PM
In honest truth, i never really understood why people hate nickelback. I remember i once looked up one of their concerts (i think) and they were getting trashed on and boo'ed. It was pretty hilarious lol :D

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 04:28 PM
Yeah, Portugal hates Nickelback. I wish our country at least tried to be just as amazing.

SynesterSeX
03-17-2010, 04:29 PM
Yeah, Portugal hates Nickelback. I wish our country at least tried to be just as amazing.

Haha

Your comments/replies never fail to amaze me :D


Even though you can be pretty harsh sometimes :(

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 04:30 PM
I'd rather be honest than a person who babies others with his opinions.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 04:38 PM
Honestly, does it even matter? No, no it does not.

Rocket2Russia
03-17-2010, 04:49 PM
If you want to get technical, isn't all music considered generic? Since it seems that NOTHING is ever original anymore.

Yeah, exactly.

/ignorelist

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 04:55 PM
End ignore list? What?

The point of what I was saying was... when ever someone goes "Oh man, _____ is an original band!" then someone usually comes in and says "No, they totally sound like ______."

It goes to the same thing on calling bands generic. People call bands generic because they can't come up with a reason on why they don't like them. Is it smart? Absolutely not. If I don't like a band, I'll usually say what I don't like about the band. Usually it's just the vocals, but some other times it could be anything else.

Meatwad555
03-17-2010, 04:56 PM
Honestly, does it even matter? No, no it does not.

Is it really that hard for you to admit that you are wrong?

a21schizoidman
03-17-2010, 04:56 PM
if it didn't matter he'd quit throwing tantrums

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 04:59 PM
Oh yeah man, I'm totally running around yelling and crying and everything. Boooohoooo. I should just go cut myself. That willll solve everything.

/sarcasm

I just stated above on exactly what I meant. Oh, but that's too hard for you guys to see, isn't it?

Rocket2Russia
03-17-2010, 05:01 PM
End ignore list? What?

The point of what I was saying was... when ever someone goes "Oh man, _____ is an original band!" then someone usually comes in and says "No, they totally sound like ______."

It goes to the same thing on calling bands generic. People call bands generic because they can't come up with a reason on why they don't like them. Is it smart? Absolutely not. If I don't like a band, I'll usually say what I don't like about the band. Usually it's just the vocals, but some other times it could be anything else.

Original = has some unique, defining characteristic. Animal Collective sounds like The Beach Boys, but they are an original band releasing original material.

Generic = is a complete carbon copy of every other band present in the mainstream, all copying one or one group of bands from the past, usually. For example, Oasis, MUSE and Coldplay are generic as ****, ripping off The Beatles, The Stone Roses and Radiohead, along with other krautrock artists and such. It's not an excuse to dislike the band or not come up with a reason: it's a reason in and of itself. Why listen to The Resistance when I have plenty of nice Queen albums lying around?

a21schizoidman
03-17-2010, 05:02 PM
Oh yeah man, I'm totally running around yelling and crying and everything. Boooohoooo. I should just go cut myself. That willll solve everything.

/sarcasm

I just stated above on exactly what I meant. Oh, but that's too hard for you guys to see, isn't it?

sorry, the rest of us took off our rose-tinted sunglasses years ago, you'll understand when you hit puberty

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 05:04 PM
Animal Collective sounds like The Beach Boys, but they are an original band releasing original material.

waitwhat?


Coldplay are generic as ****, ripping off The Beatles

They may be heavily influenced by the Beatles and the two other acts, but they don't sound exactly the same as any of those bands! You may think they suck or are boring, but I would never call them carbon copies! (which is what I view generic as!)

Also, bro, you just kind of helped his view on the subject with how you went on with using generic.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 05:07 PM
Also, bro, you just kind of helped his view on the subject with how you went on with using generic.

Thanks for pointing that out. If I pointed it out, I probably would've got flamed for it, like usual.

instantdeath999
03-17-2010, 05:08 PM
I'd rather be honest than a person who babies others with his opinions.

Maybe, for something like music, but I don't actually think that honesty is always virtuous.

As for the rest of this thread, particularly the last few posts, I'm not touching that with a 40 foot pole.

chumsicles
03-17-2010, 05:10 PM
waitwhat?


I can see it. You wouldn't ever mistake them for the Beach Boys, but you can definitely hear their influence in Animal Collective's more recent stuff

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 05:11 PM
There's a big difference with influence and sounding like your influence, though.

chumsicles
03-17-2010, 05:12 PM
Yeah I know. Though I think the former was being implied

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 05:12 PM
If it was I didn't connect with the implying that was being done!

instantdeath999
03-17-2010, 05:13 PM
Generic is an awful, awful word for describing music.

I'm no fan of using "buzzwords" to critiqe music, like "pretentious", "uninspired" or "overrated", but I think generic actually has some weight and meaning to it.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 05:25 PM
Bands who can be called Generic are bands like Nickelback, Theory of a Deadman and Hinder. Am I right? The last 2 definitely sound a lot like Nickelback. Right?

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 05:34 PM
Like I said I use generic for carbon copy genres/bands. Those three would definitely fall in place. Though it still is a word I like to use to discredit something, either way.

Rockbandfan23467
03-17-2010, 06:17 PM
Really the only difference between most Post-Post-Grunge bands is the voice.

gnik nus
03-17-2010, 06:24 PM
Panda Bear sounds like Brian Wilson

Explosion2
03-17-2010, 07:06 PM
I really don't get the hate (I find it funny to see people get so pissed off at the mention of their name though), I think they're OKAY. Not great, not really good either, but OKAY.

I think it's just become a "cool" thing to do to hate Nickelback. I guess I'm uncool.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 07:25 PM
I personally don't hate Nickelback myself. I don't not like them, but I also don't like them. I really just don't care.

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 07:26 PM
I have to be honest, it is pretty hip to hate awful post-grunge bands! and I'm pretty dang hip!

BuRn7 CaK3
03-17-2010, 07:37 PM
Oh, you're just full of yourself. QUIT BEING HIP.

Gowienczyk
03-17-2010, 07:38 PM
Unless it becomes hip to be unhip, than I shall never sacrifice my hipness of being hip by doing hip things with hip people!

neanngis
03-17-2010, 08:26 PM
Unless it becomes hip to be unhip, than I shall never sacrifice my hipness of being hip by doing hip things with hip people!

I feel this sentence is the greatest sentence ever concieved.

But I actually don't hate Nickelback. They're not in my top ten, probably not even top 20, but I do enjoy their music. :)

ace360
03-19-2010, 02:35 PM
Yeah, Portugal hates Nickelback. I wish our country at least tried to be just as amazing.

lol that was funny I saw a video of that on youtube

Lameboy19
03-19-2010, 02:38 PM
this thread is like herpes

overcookedbacon
03-19-2010, 03:59 PM
this thread is like herpes

Yeah, just when the HOR forum is about to nail some hot, younger forum it pops right back up.

Lameboy19
03-19-2010, 05:24 PM
I think we should just talk about Lady Gaga's vagina again maybe it will make this thread go away for good

BuRn7 CaK3
03-19-2010, 05:27 PM
I think we should just talk about Lady Gaga's vagina again maybe it will make this thread go away for good

Making it go away does not deal with posting in it. Making the thread go away is to NOT post in it. :p

TheObscure
03-20-2010, 12:57 AM
Look at this phonograaaaaaaaaaaaaaph.

CEEDZ13
03-24-2010, 09:37 AM
I don't get how you can hate "Animals". It's soo freaking funny xD "I guess no one ever told her not to speak with a full mouth"

VictorSxL
03-28-2010, 02:57 PM
I think they've made a fair amount of decent songs.

Lameboy19
03-28-2010, 03:02 PM
yay herpes!

MusicGirl101
02-22-2011, 01:40 AM
Like I'm only 10 but I know good music like Nickelback when i hear it and I don't get why people hate them so much

Lameboy19
02-22-2011, 01:58 AM
Like I'm only 10 but I know good music like Nickelback when i hear it and I don't get why people hate them so much

early candidate for post of the year?

darkwinterbeast8
02-22-2011, 05:02 AM
Like I'm only 10 but I know good music like Nickelback when i hear it and I don't get why people hate them so much

I hope this post is a joke.

bjyaritz
02-22-2011, 12:14 PM
People dislike those which are better and embrace the underdog or black sheep. They are a very talented group with great songs that many can compare too.

afterstasis
02-22-2011, 12:27 PM
Welp.

jawillroy
02-22-2011, 12:42 PM
Wow, bjyaritz, you're absolutely right. That churning in my stomach when ever I hear that band in the supermarket or the Duane Reade ISN'T nausea. It's jealousy. I wish I could be just like them. I mean, the POETRY: By now, no doubt that we were heading south/ I guess nobody ever taught her not to speak with a full mouth The sensitivity! The sense of meter! I can't begin to touch it and I die inside every minute I even consider trying to achieve the greatness, no, the HOLINESS that is Nickelback. I...

No, I can't go on. I vomited a little just there. No, bjyaritz, people who actually think about music and care about it hate on Nickelback because it's music created by and for people who don't think about music and don't care about it. IT'S BASICALLY MUZAK. The lyrics are crap because they don't matter at all, because nobody actually is expected to pay attention to them. Its sole purpose is to keep you moving, from the produce aisle to the cereal aisle to the beer aisle to dairy to checkout and out the door to the car to walmart, and then to the food court to gorge on warm water hot dogs while your produce rots in the back seat of your SUV, along with your children and pets.

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
02-22-2011, 03:25 PM
Like I'm only 10 but I know good music like Nickelback when i hear it and I don't get why people hate them so much

Rofl

Mega-Tallica
02-22-2011, 03:57 PM
Nickelback is for people who listen to music who don't really pay attention to what they are actually listening to. They like the sounds of the heavily distorted guitar, hard rock beats, with easily memorable chorus's. The band's music itself is so simple that you really don't have to be "listening" at all to like it. And unfortunately, the vast majority of people nowadays aren't in depth with their music selection and they are not very knowledgable, so they listen to what is given to them and Nickelback is what they are given through TV, radio, or any other media outlet.

jawillroy
02-22-2011, 04:01 PM
"Badness" is actually not the relevant quality here. The musicians of a professional touring band have to be of a certain level of skill, generally speaking, and I'm sure that the members of Band Who Shall Not Be Named are perfectly competent. There's nothing offensive about their playing. Their crime is not a lack of skill. Their crime is BANALITY. They make music the same way that McDonald's makes hamburgers. They're always exactly the same, and you could have made one better yourself in your backyard.

Now, take for instance, The Shaggs. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yN9UT2zF8c8)

In terms of technical ability, they're an utter catastrophe. A train wreck. A clusterf*ck. They don't seem to know how to tune. The drummer sounds as though she's playing in a different room, to a different song which she hasn't learned either.

But I submit to you that The Shaggs' sole album, Philosophy of the World, is more interesting than BWSNBN's entire oeuvre.

(I am aware that there are differences of opinion. There are some people who will tell you that Jeff Koons makes good art. This is proof positive that some opinions are plumb wrong.)

ROCKBANDFANATIC7526
02-22-2011, 04:02 PM
I'm being dead serious... I think I've heard maybe two of their songs in my lifetime.

Mega-Tallica
02-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Also, Nickelback seems to be immature too. I mean, how many songs do they have to have about sex?

Yeah, they have a lot of unnecessary sexual references and metaphors in their songs.

I mean, have you ever heard "Something In Your Mouth"?

Really now?

But, people love it and that's what's topping the charts, so what can you do? That's just the direction mainstream music has gone.

bjyaritz
02-22-2011, 04:08 PM
Wow, bjyaritz, you're absolutely right. That churning in my stomach when ever I hear that band in the supermarket or the Duane Reade ISN'T nausea. It's jealousy. I wish I could be just like them. I mean, the POETRY: By now, no doubt that we were heading south/ I guess nobody ever taught her not to speak with a full mouth The sensitivity! The sense of meter! I can't begin to touch it and I die inside every minute I even consider trying to achieve the greatness, no, the HOLINESS that is Nickelback. I...

No, I can't go on. I vomited a little just there. No, bjyaritz, people who actually think about music and care about it hate on Nickelback because it's music created by and for people who don't think about music and don't care about it. IT'S BASICALLY MUZAK. The lyrics are crap because they don't matter at all, because nobody actually is expected to pay attention to them. Its sole purpose is to keep you moving, from the produce aisle to the cereal aisle to the beer aisle to dairy to checkout and out the door to the car to walmart, and then to the food court to gorge on warm water hot dogs while your produce rots in the back seat of your SUV, along with your children and pets.

If thats you stance, let's hate on them because it's the cool thing to do or everyones doing it. Ever heard this verse? "Squeeze my lemon baby, till the juice runs down my leg".

As long as their has been music there has been many songs, some of them hits, that contain a sexual reference or two. "The Lemon Song" is just an example.

FlyGuyLXI
02-22-2011, 04:16 PM
I would like Dark Horse if it was entirely instrumental.

jawillroy
02-22-2011, 04:20 PM
If thats you stance, let's hate on them because it's the cool thing to do or everyones doing it. Ever heard this verse? "Squeeze my lemon baby, till the juice runs down my leg".

As long as their has been music there has been many songs, some of them hits, that contain a sexual reference or two. "The Lemon Song" is just an example.

You must be responding to someone else's post, because you clearly didn't read mine.

bjyaritz
02-22-2011, 04:47 PM
Radio stations overplay songs so freaking much it gets annoying. That's why I don't listen to it, and I use the radio to wake up, but that's the old stuff.

This I do agree with 100%.

Mega-Tallica
02-22-2011, 04:53 PM
Luckily enough for us, there's an "off" button and a volume button on most radios. ;)

TheRollingBones
02-22-2011, 08:26 PM
Band Who Shall Not Be Named

I'm confused here, do you mean The Beatles or Nizickleback

darkwinterbeast8
02-22-2011, 09:14 PM
That's why I usually just take a CD with me wherever I go. Even if it's just down the street.

Hopefully you also take a CD player with you. Otherwise that CD won't help you much. ;)

darkwinterbeast8
02-22-2011, 09:15 PM
Nizickleback

Now I'm confused. Did Snoop Doggy Dogg make a project where he just covers Nickleback songs?

Buffdog18
02-22-2011, 09:24 PM
Now I'm confused. Did Snoop Doggy Dogg make a project where he just covers Nickleback songs?

Snoop Dogg? I was imagining Bill Cosby saying this. :p

Anyway, Nickelback is king of generic crap.

darkwinterbeast8
02-22-2011, 09:35 PM
Snoop Dogg? I was imagining Bill Cosby saying this. :p

Anyway, Nickelback is king of generic crap.

Either one doing Nickleback songs would actually improve them. They just better not tour Portugal.

TheRollingBones
02-22-2011, 09:41 PM
Now I'm confused. Did Snoop Doggy Dogg make a project where he just covers Nickleback songs?

Nah, just hizzling some fizzle.

aiuchi
02-22-2011, 09:43 PM
Nickelback is a modern day Winger.

jawillroy
02-22-2011, 09:47 PM
Anyway, Nickelback is king of generic crap.

Okay kids. Cage match to the death of generic crap. Pick your bands, pick your winner.

afterstasis
02-22-2011, 09:54 PM
http://youtubedoubler.com/mGtK

Lameboy19
02-22-2011, 10:53 PM
http://youtubedoubler.com/mGtK

goddammit.

darkwinterbeast8
02-23-2011, 03:52 AM
Nickelback is a modern day Winger.

At least Beavis and Butthead made fun of Winger.

afterstasis
02-23-2011, 08:51 AM
Winger EVISCERATES Nickelback any day of the week.

Wolfsbane
02-23-2011, 09:45 AM
I can lalways find a song or two that I like in any genre. with Nickleback I group them into what I like to Call "Theory of a Hinderback". There use to be others but I haven't referred to this term in a while. Listen closely and all those bands sound the same. Mainstream radio rock of today I swear they're all the same doods in different named bands.

RxPhantom
02-23-2011, 12:06 PM
I used to like Nickelback until All the Right Reasons. Before that album, they actually had a good bit of metal and a tinge of blues in their sound. Sure, they were never gonna reinvent the wheel, but they were solid. All the Right Reasons and Dark Horse are just...really, really bad.

The worst part is the tidal wave of crappy dude rock that has become popular in the wake of Nickelback, like Theory of a Deadman, Hinder, Saving Abel and Cavo. Ugh..

Pbateman
02-23-2011, 12:40 PM
I would take Winger over Nickelback.

Rockox
02-23-2011, 12:44 PM
I'd take Winger over a lot of bands.

(their new album ain't half bad)

Pbateman
02-23-2011, 01:37 PM
I'd take Winger over a lot of bands.

(their new album ain't half bad)

That's like saying water is wet dude. :D

Rockox
02-23-2011, 01:51 PM
Hahahaha!

BachiG
02-23-2011, 02:13 PM
The two obvious reasons are:
1. They sound like every other mainstream rock band.
2. It's easy to dislike mainstream music...,and cool to do so.

I enjoyed them when the first came out (first 2 albums) but haven't really followed them since then, other then what I've heard on the radio.

Pbateman
02-23-2011, 02:44 PM
To answer the original question, I never liked them simply because they're bland generic radio rock. I don't like or dislike anything because it's hip to do so. I make up my own mind thanks. I love Duran Duran for christ's sake, nothing hip about that. I also love Kiss and I really dig Danzig, and both bands are hokey as hell.

Ultimatum
02-24-2011, 07:09 PM
If thats you stance, let's hate on them because it's the cool thing to do or everyones doing it. Ever heard this verse? "Squeeze my lemon baby, till the juice runs down my leg".

As long as their has been music there has been many songs, some of them hits, that contain a sexual reference or two. "The Lemon Song" is just an example.

You can't read, can you?