RB guitar and Guitar hero3 wont work toghter

[blitz]

does ne1 know y the the guitar that comes with Rock Band will not work with Guitar hero 3 is there a patch or some thing, is it the guitar itself, or just one of thoses things that im SOL??

[AcePilotF14]

Rock Band guitars won't work with GH3 for copyright issues, I think. Harmonix being whiny. They likely won't ever work. but GH3 guitars work for Rock Band.

[Woodius]

Go check out the "sticky" on this issue in the Announcements forum. There is a lot of info there.

[TobyD81]

Rock Band guitars won't work with GH3 for copyright issues, I think. Harmonix being whiny. They likely won't ever work. but GH3 guitars work for Rock Band.

Actually Activision chose to block out non-Activision-branded guitars from GH3, so that you would have to buy their hardware. The Rock Band guitars for 360 follow Microsoft's open controller standard, while the GH3 Les Paul doesn't. Activision also protested to Sony over a patch that would have made the PS3 Les Paul work in Rock Band for PS3; instead of making things better for the consumer andselling some hardware in the process, they felt they should be compensated (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165150) for allowing their controller to be compatible.

[sprinter461]

Actually Activision chose to block out non-Activision-branded guitars from GH3, so that you would have to buy their hardware. The Rock Band guitars for 360 follow Microsoft's open controller standard, while the GH3 Les Paul doesn't. Activision also protested to Sony over a patch that would have made the PS3 Les Paul work in Rock Band for PS3; instead of making things better for the consumer andselling some hardware in the process, they felt they should be compensated (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3165150) for allowing their controller to be compatible.

BULL****!

What Microsoft open controller standard? No such thing exists. If it did, this thread would not exist, because all manufacturers would be forced to adhere to it by Microsoft.

If there was such a thing as a Microsoft open controller standard (and there is NOT) and the Rock Band controller was designed to work with it, how can you say the GH3 guitar was not, since it works with Rock Band as well?

Beside all the above when was the last time Microsoft made ANYTHING "Open"?

Get your facts straight before you post, it's posts like this that lead to so much confusion and bad information floating around.

[Nate Finch]

To put things straight:

No version of the Rock Band guitar will work with any version of Guitar Hero.
On the 360 and PS2, Guitar Hero guitars work with Rock Band.
On the PS3, the Guitar Hero 3 guitar does not work with Rock Band.

Harmonix attempted to put out a patch to fix that last PS3 incompatbility, but Harmonix blocked sony from releasing the patch to the public, saying they needed monetary compensation.

That is all.

[TobyD81]

BULL****!

What Microsoft open controller standard? No such thing exists. If it did, this thread would not exist, because all manufacturers would be forced to adhere to it by Microsoft.

If there was such a thing as a Microsoft open controller standard (and there is NOT) and the Rock Band controller was designed to work with it, how can you say the GH3 guitar was not, since it works with Rock Band as well?

Beside all the above when was the last time Microsoft made ANYTHING "Open"?

Get your facts straight before you post, it's posts like this that lead to so much confusion and bad information floating around.

*ahem* (http://www.1up.com/do/newsStory?cId=3163966)

Red Octane declined to comment when contacted about this story. When asked why, the company refused to elaborate, but the issue of compatibility is a thorny issue for all parties involved. Harmonix, however, did issue 1UP a statement that seems to point the finger squarely at Red Octane, Neversoft and Activision:

"Harmonix develops and bases all of our games, guitars and other peripherals on open standards established by platform manufacturers such as Microsoft and Sony. Rock Band is no exception and supports an open controller standard," said a Harmonix spokesperson. "Guitar controllers are like any other standard game controller -- -the controller sends a signal back to the game depending on the buttons you push. If a third party game controller is based on open standards, then it should work with Rock Band as well."

This would suggest that Guitar Hero III's interface doesn't use the open standards provided by Microsoft and Sony. The conspiracy theory would suggest Guitar Hero III purposely implements a closed controller standard so it can only properly interface with the peripherals specifically designed for it. That makes sense, as Rock Band is the biggest competition Guitar Hero faces this holiday season and purposely locking out a rival's peripheral directly forces consumers to choose one or the other -- a convenient option given that Guitar Hero III ships ahead of Rock Band.

[blitz]

holy balls thanks for the info, at least i know now that i didnt get a bum RB guitar!

[JaSonVI]

Harmonix attempted to put out a patch to fix that last PS3 incompatbility, but Harmonix blocked sony from releasing the patch to the public, saying they needed monetary compensation.

That is all.

Please you guys have to stop repeating this all the time because each time I read something about the patch I feel the anger coming..

hahaha Anyway I bought RockBand in Toys R us and I have an other bundle that will come in EB Games soon.. So I will have 2 bundles and I will be so happy to sell the last thing I have about the guitarhero serie. I sold everything except my last guitar just in case... But I will not wait anymore, I hate Activision and anyway after playing RockBand how I could play guitarhero anymore.. It's such a boring game compare to RB ..

[cjkuhlenbeck]

The "open" standard means no tricks, it just works. Wheras, the Les Paul and X-plorer have a special chip on the main board, which prevents it from being played on other games, or better, to prevent people from using other controllers on thier game. the Les Paul is the Mac OSX of the gamig controllers. You know why you can't install OSX on a PC? because when installing OSX checks for a small chip that every mac is installed with, but PCs arent. If the chips installed, good, it will install, no chip, no install. On that same note, its been hacked onto a PC before, so whos to say an RB controller wont be hacked onto GH3?

[TobyD81]

...On that same note, its been hacked onto a PC before, so whos to say an RB controller wont be hacked onto GH3?

Hey, cool for people who want to get into that. I just think that the controllers should just plain work (http://www.penny-arcade.com/comic/2007/12/17) for whichever game I want to use them on.

[blitz]

no kindding, i think any guitar should work with any game, especially when their all for xbox 360

[dfjdejulio]

no kindding, i think any guitar should work with any game, especially when their all for xbox 360

Tell Activision.

Harmonix has stated that that's the exact situation they want. Activision has expressed disinterest in making it so.

[ShadowOfEden]

Even if they follow the same standard (thus on both guitars, pressing green does the same thing), the game can get the signature of the guitar and block it intentionnally if it isn't the LP. That's probably the case of GH3 on the X360.

[DoctorWho]

To put things straight:

No version of the Rock Band guitar will work with any version of Guitar Hero.
On the 360 and PS2, Guitar Hero guitars work with Rock Band.
On the PS3, the Guitar Hero 3 guitar does not work with Rock Band.

Harmonix attempted to put out a patch to fix that last PS3 incompatbility, but Harmonix blocked sony from releasing the patch to the public, saying they needed monetary compensation.

That is all.

Incorrect. Harmonix did NOT block the patch from being released, Activision are the ones to blame.

Therefore, most anyone that is aware of this will be boycotting Activison products from now on. Pirate their titles if you must play them, but don't give your hard earned cash to anyone that does not have gamers' intrests in mind.

[THEfireman]

If your reading my post, then you clearly don't have the answer your looking for. Everyone above me, who has responded to this post, clearly has a very good understanding as to why the controllers are not compatible with one another. CLOSE THIS THREAD!!!!!!!

[ShadowOfEden]

Incorrect. Harmonix did NOT block the patch from being released, Activision are the ones to blame.

Therefore, most anyone that is aware of this will be boycotting Activison products from now on. Pirate their titles if you must play them, but don't give your hard earned cash to anyone that does not have gamers' intrests in mind.

I think it was a mistake.

Btw, is it true that the GH3 guitar for PS2 works on Rock Band PS2? Because for PS2 and PS3, Rock Band uses the same guitar, unless Harmonix slipped in the patch in the PS2 version, since it was delayed.

Except for the connector, I'm pretty sure the PS2 and PS3 LP are the same (at least in terms of registering the buttons), so it would be odd if the LP PS2 would work on Rock Band PS2 if it's not what I said earlier.

[DoctorWho]

I agree, CLOSE THIS THREAD!

n00bs, look here for any and all related GH3>RB questions/comments:

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15440

[Guibs]

GHIII'S Les paul guitar works just fine with Rockband on Xbox 360. Microsoft's wireless tandard makes sure that it works. I'm wondering if, once Harmonix release a wireless Start on xbox 360 if that one will work with GHIII or not...

[ShadowOfEden]

GHIII'S Les paul guitar works just fine with Rockband on Xbox 360. Microsoft's wireless tandard makes sure that it works. I'm wondering if, once Harmonix release a wireless Start on xbox 360 if that one will work with GHIII or not...

Wireless standards have nothing to do with it. One is wired and the other is not.

It's button input standards.

[tbradshaw]

I agree, CLOSE THIS THREAD!

n00bs, look here for any and all related GH3>RB questions/comments:

http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=15440
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