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Impyshaz
12-27-2007, 05:47 PM
Rules of etiquette for online play
I have played quite a bit online through the PS3N on quick play and there are some courtesy standards which I think we should agree on as a community.
Communication issues.
The big thing about playing online on PS3 is how hard it is to communicate with other players. Since we don’t have the Xbox headsets we have to do without. I’m personally thinking of making a Rock Band only messenger account so that I can communicate with players on AIM or MSN or something. Until then I was wondering if anyone has come up with polite ways of communicating to others that you don’t wish to play a song. I have seen a lot of players that will sit on the difficulty selection screen and not pick anything or just flip their cursor back and forth (I’d suggest this rather than just waiting since you may be mistaken for being afk) and I usually interpret this as an expression of dislike for the song at which point I will usually just pick a new song or if I have a strong desire to play that particular one I will find another member. One thing I will say is that if you are trying to express a dislike of the song I would do it on the difficulty screen and not the guitar or bass screen which leads to my next point….
Guitar or bass?
When you’re playing online with another guitar player then I’ve generally come to expect that the two players will switch playing bass and guitar per song. If you only want to play one or the other I think that’s something you’ll have to communicate in an online band, but for casual play it’s rude to always take one. I’ve also seen a lot of times when both players pick guitar as fast as possible and the game lags for a few minutes while it tries to decide who selected first. The quick draw method usually leaves one person angry (sometimes angry enough to leave) and slows the whole process down. The best method for solving this that I’ve found is to pause before selecting and seeing what the other person wants to do. If it comes to a stalemate one usually will select bass with the understanding that they will play guitar next.
Another topic I’ve noticed come up is slightly difficult to explain as it’s fairly sensitive so excuse my clumsy words if I do not put this as delicate as intended. I’ve seen the guitarists “unseat” each other at times. This happens when the leader is the guitarist and his guest plays guitar, leaving him with bass. The leader will then back out to the song selection screen, reselect the song and try again to get guitar. This usually ends up in a long argument session of repeating the backing out process until the leader is satisfied (I didn’t say it was a mature process). First of all, on the first song the leader should technically get to choose first. That’s a given. But if you are going to unseat a guitarist who’s playing on expert and you choose easy then they’ll generally get upset. I know that the subject of playing on easy (and subsequently failing) is a very sore subject on these forums but when you think about it the more experienced player should generally get first choice on at least the first song. I believe that this is the right of the player since they are utilizing the game to it’s fullest and the other player is still learning. If you would like to play on guitar on easy I would suggest learning the ropes on 1 player first so you do not insult the more serious guitarist. But even in this situation the more agreeable players will still alternate.
I’m not a guitarist and I know that there are certain songs that this rule doesn’t work for. I know people who do not consider Maps to be a difficult enough song to count as their guitar turn. In this situation it’s up to the players to be mature and come up with a solution.
Small point.
I am usually the vocalist for our group and there is one thing that always annoys me. When you are picking a song PLEASE wait a few seconds before selecting. I don’t know every song by heart and I usually need to hear it a bit in order to decide what difficulty to play on. I think this may apply to the other instruments as well so please just let us sample the song before selecting it.
About leaving….
I understand that sometimes you have a very strong objection to playing a song. After all, one can only play Dani California so many times before someone has to die. But if you are going to leave a game over it please just don’t select a difficulty. If the leader objects to your refusal hard enough he can find another player to replace you or he can pick another song. If you quit after the song is loading then the game freezes and if you leave in the middle the rest of the band is doomed to fail. I don’t mind so much when people quit out after seeing the song (it does get annoying when it happens over and over) but it really sucks when you have to restart the PS3 because someone didn’t want to play your song.
Adding these because they're great suggestions:
Don't sing into the headset on XBox accounts. Due to lag your voice will not sync up with the singers on your band member's TVs. This will make you very distracting since you're timing will be half a second off. Also this makes it hard for the other members to communicate with you as you are blocking the channel.
Play on the difficulty you are comfortable with. I know it can be uncomfortable choosing medium if everyone else is on hard/expert but trust me, they would rather you be honest about your skill level then cause a fail by playing outside your means.
and a big point for the vocalists, it's not a big deal if you have to play some songs on easy. Most people don't have a god-like range so they can play every song on hard. There's as wide of a range of singers in this game as are humanly possible. It's normal for you to be unable to hit every note, with every voice on every song. So kick it down a level if you think you need to. I'm keeping a notebook with the songs I play and what level I should play them on. I find this helpful since I can never remember if I'm ready for hard/expert on certain songs and have a hard time remembering which songs I'm going to bomb in.
DesiredFX had some great advice regarding invitations:
I think it helps if you consider invitations to be more formal, the way they would be if you were inviting friends to a party.
It's possible to just randomly invite someone and have it work out well, but, overall, I think it's best to put some planning into it. Check with the person you intend to invite before you invite them, to give them an opportunity to get ready.
Also, if you just invite randomly, it might not work out for a very simple reason: you're inviting me to fill out your band, and you need a second guitarist. However, I'm online as a vocalist, so even if I respond to your invitation, I can't join your band.
A lot of people are using them as an "I just want someone to play with who isn't a random factor," which is fine as long as you understand that invitations only have a tiny success rate if you use them that way.
So what I'd say is:
1. make sure the person you're inviting wants to receive invitations from you. It's usually pretty easy to tell--I mean, if you played with them once, had a good time, and they added you as a friend, they probably are up for playing with you--but it never hurts to just check before sending things out.
2. Go into Rock Band knowing you're planning to invite someone. Check the XMB to see which of your RB friends are signed in. If someone's signed in and the PS3 tells you they're playing RB, that's great...except that they're playing RB--they might be in solo tour or doing BWT or playing online with someone else. You have no way of knowing.
2a. What I would suggest in that instance is inviting that friend as your last option unless they're someone you REALLY want to play with. Pick another of your RB friends who isn't playing RB (or anything, if possible) and shoot them a quick "Up for some Rock Band?" message. This gives you the opportunity to prepare a little and figure out what instruments everyone will be playing. You could also take the time to ask if there are any particular songs they'd like to play. Also a good time to check if you both have the same DLC.
3. When you're in RB, set up your band first. Get everyone ready to go who's going to be playing locally, then send out your invitation. This is really just common courtesy: if you invite me to play, you should be ready to play when I get there. The same holds true for receiving an invitation: don't respond until you're ready to play.
4. If you worked out some songs you want to play, have at it. If not, random songs are great, especially if you're dealing with someone who's played the game a lot. I don't have any songs that I flat won't play, but WOW did I play Dani California a lot of times yesterday. If you don't want to do random (it can get ugly, yes), try at least to come up with a varied set that gives everyone something to do, and maybe hit on a few of those songs that never get selected.
The biggest difficulty with the PS3 set up is that you can't talk your way through these things while you play. All that really means, though, is that you need to plan a bit more carefully.
A final note: when you're leaving a gig that you had a lot of fun playing, shoot a note to the other players before you shut down. Without voice chat, it's hard for people to know why you left when you did, so it doesn't hurt to send a little reassuring note telling them what a blast you had.
Rock_Starman
12-27-2007, 05:58 PM
For the third thing,play the solo tour first.
For the rest,you've not played online much have you? Be glad they don't have headsets. :p
RavagerX
12-27-2007, 06:02 PM
I agree with this 100%. Usually my experience with this game online with the ps3 has been pleasurable...except for Christmas Day....
The only thing I wish to add...
Play on a difficulty you are comfortable with. Just because you see everyone else playing on hard or expert doesn't mean you should if you KNOW you can't yet.
JMcSquared
12-27-2007, 06:15 PM
I agree with this 100%. Usually my experience with this game online with the ps3 has been pleasurable...except for Christmas Day....
The only thing I wish to add...
Play on a difficulty you are comfortable with. Just because you see everyone else playing on hard or expert doesn't mean you should if you KNOW you can't yet.
UG. That should be #1.
TheTFacta
12-27-2007, 06:26 PM
When you are singing, please turn your headset off. I don't want to hear your screeching voice. Keep the mic clear so I can tell you to use Overdrive so we can get the best score.
Parodygm
12-27-2007, 06:40 PM
I'll play bass a lot when I'm in the mood.
I'll play bass when I'm outmatched by another guitarist with a full band gunning for high scores on Expert.
I'll play bass for less good casual bands to help keep them in the songs.
What I won't do is stick around when I'm refused playing guitar on one in every three or four songs. Sometimes when I'm feeling particularly sour in those instances I might just decide to not stick around about a quarter of the way through the next song... as good a way to protest as any when we're denied voice chat capabilities.
Teh_Nfsjunkie91
12-27-2007, 06:43 PM
I'd like to also say, both of you choosing guitar and hoping to "randomly" get it, don't. It may be acceptable the first time you and the bassist play each other, but after that, switch, don't select guitar again, pick bass, and let them play guitar.
TribalDancer
12-27-2007, 08:29 PM
I, too, have bee nconfused and frustrated by the online play sans any way to communicate with others. Luckily, the guy I played with the other night kept choosing bass for himself immediately, so I knew it was what he wanted to play. Otherwise, I would never have known!
Sacrafice
12-27-2007, 09:05 PM
I find myself the leader all the time. I don't know how not to be other than using search because if I just sit there I never find anyone... Now I already swap if the other guitarist don't want to play bass. My problem is I don't mind playing any song in the game as long as they are not the same ones over and over. Being the leader every time (Which I wish I wasn't ever!) I just select random. So I shouldn't do that due to people wanting to hear the song first or should I keep doing that Method?
I do notice sometimes if someone moves up a difficulty level for say the grunge songs I will try to play songs that fit that genre thinking they are more likely to like that song is that something I should continue to do or is my way of thinking way off base with that assumption? In my case if I knew the song before playing it on Rock Band I tend to be better at the song because I already know what to expect sorta...
JB4GDI
12-27-2007, 10:01 PM
If you get owned in score duel online and quit,
DON'T GO RIGHT BACK TO SCORE DUEL ON THAT INSTRUMENT
That person is going to be back, and you're just going to keep bumping into them.
I swear, I owned this one kid on PSN, and he quit halfway through the first song (which he picked). So I went back in, and tryed to get a game, but it was just this same n00b over and over again. I eventually got sick of him showing up and then exiting that I just went back to single player.
-Jaime
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 01:55 AM
If you get owned in score duel online and quit,
DON'T GO RIGHT BACK TO SCORE DUEL ON THAT INSTRUMENT
That person is going to be back, and you're just going to keep bumping into them.
I swear, I owned this one kid on PSN, and he quit halfway through the first song (which he picked). So I went back in, and tryed to get a game, but it was just this same n00b over and over again. I eventually got sick of him showing up and then exiting that I just went back to single player.
-Jaime
I've had this problem too. Particularly with players that I've kicked for reason or the other. I wish you could avoid/prefer players like in Halo for this reason.
I've taken to adding people who play on a similar level as I do and have some of the DLC that I NEVER get to play. I'm hoping this will eventually give me a lot of friends to invite and avoid this problem.
I completely agree that if you aren't able to play on the same level as your band mates you should not make the attempt. They would much rather play with someone on medium than fail the song. This is at least true of my group but we are very casual players.
Ventura
12-28-2007, 03:08 AM
When you are singing, please turn your headset off. I don't want to hear your screeching voice. Keep the mic clear so I can tell you to use Overdrive so we can get the best score.
Arrogant much?
If I were singing, and that's how you told me to turn my headset off, I'd go out of my way to never use my overdrive when you wanted it.
Not that I'd use it when you wanted it used, anyway. Nobody tells me when to use my overdrive.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 12:12 PM
Arrogant much?
If I were singing, and that's how you told me to turn my headset off, I'd go out of my way to never use my overdrive when you wanted it.
Not that I'd use it when you wanted it used, anyway. Nobody tells me when to use my overdrive.
Actually he's 100% right in saying this and you are the one being arrogant. On this forum you will find the makers of this game state that the headset for Xbox live has enough lag to make your singing distracting for the rest of the players as it will be 1/2 second off from the vocals on the track. You are encouraged NOT to sing into the headset. Also, I play vocals almost primarily and as the singer you have the most liberty to deploy overdrive at the most appropriate time since you have the ability to watch the other players progress while you are not singing. This is the only way to give your band the highest point amplifier. Some people who play this game care about trying to do their best and it's very possible to get 100% without hitting every single note as long as you are strategic with your point amplifiers.
If you acted like this in a game with me I would kick you promptly.
Please don't troll. That's the mark of a textbook forum nublet.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 01:19 PM
Here's a great thread about female vs male avatars for singers and how to choose songs.
http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=18432
It's a tricky topic since the avatar might not be the same gender as the player. And even if it is correct you can still never tell what kind of song they'll play at. I usually choose based on which songs the players choose a higher skill level for and try and stay in that general area.
I'm a female singer and my best song is Don't Fear the Reaper and I can't pass I'm So Sick for my life.
I tried the method of not selecting levels but I had one singer doing nothing. So I when back to get new song, same thing, when thru about 5 songs so I guess the person just left without quiting. Maybe we should scroll through the list of levels up and down to say pick a new song.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 01:34 PM
I tried the method of not selecting levels but I had one singer doing nothing. So I when back to get new song, same thing, when thru about 5 songs so I guess the person just left without quiting. Maybe we should scroll through the list of levels up and down to say pick a new song.
That's what I've done so that the leader knows I'm not AFK. It's so hard to communicate! I just wish we could talk to each other like the XBox players can!
DesiredFX
12-28-2007, 01:40 PM
One thing I haven't seen discussed is the etiquette of invitations.
I don't mind getting random invitations--especially from people I've played with before--but if you're not going to make sure I'm available before you invite, then have a little patience.
If I'm in the middle of a song with a group, I'm not going to bail in the middle just to pick up an invitation, so it might take a minute or two before I respond. If you can't wait that long, don't invite.
One thing that's worked well with the people I've been playing with is to send a normal PSN message before you start playing. I've got a drummer buddy who just sends an empty message with a title like "Invite me," which is great, because I can catch it even if I'm playing a song. He knows he'll get an invite within five minutes if I'm in a position to send him one.
Now, it may seem silly to wait five minutes just to get into a game, but when you consider that once you start, you'll probably be playing with that person for probably half an hour, at least, five minutes isn't that big a deal...especially since online bands that you assemble yourself tend to be a more satisfying experience than random bands.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 03:41 PM
One thing I haven't seen discussed is the etiquette of invitations.
I don't mind getting random invitations--especially from people I've played with before--but if you're not going to make sure I'm available before you invite, then have a little patience.
If I'm in the middle of a song with a group, I'm not going to bail in the middle just to pick up an invitation, so it might take a minute or two before I respond. If you can't wait that long, don't invite.
One thing that's worked well with the people I've been playing with is to send a normal PSN message before you start playing. I've got a drummer buddy who just sends an empty message with a title like "Invite me," which is great, because I can catch it even if I'm playing a song. He knows he'll get an invite within five minutes if I'm in a position to send him one.
Now, it may seem silly to wait five minutes just to get into a game, but when you consider that once you start, you'll probably be playing with that person for probably half an hour, at least, five minutes isn't that big a deal...especially since online bands that you assemble yourself tend to be a more satisfying experience than random bands.
I'm really glad someone brought this up since I've sent invites but haven't received any. I wasn't sure how exactly it was going to work. It's kind of weird inviting a friend since we were not able to delete any of the predecided message and had to try and fit something in at the end. Also, it doesn't tell you if the person you are inviting is online, playing RB or if they even have the game. Then it sends the message and doesn't tell you anything. We had no idea what to expect!
DesiredFX
12-28-2007, 04:29 PM
I think it helps if you consider invitations to be more formal, the way they would be if you were inviting friends to a party.
It's possible to just randomly invite someone and have it work out well, but, overall, I think it's best to put some planning into it. Check with the person you intend to invite before you invite them, to give them an opportunity to get ready.
Also, if you just invite randomly, it might not work out for a very simple reason: you're inviting me to fill out your band, and you need a second guitarist. However, I'm online as a vocalist, so even if I respond to your invitation, I can't join your band.
A lot of people are using them as an "I just want someone to play with who isn't a random factor," which is fine as long as you understand that invitations only have a tiny success rate if you use them that way.
So what I'd say is:
1. make sure the person you're inviting wants to receive invitations from you. It's usually pretty easy to tell--I mean, if you played with them once, had a good time, and they added you as a friend, they probably are up for playing with you--but it never hurts to just check before sending things out.
2. Go into Rock Band knowing you're planning to invite someone. Check the XMB to see which of your RB friends are signed in. If someone's signed in and the PS3 tells you they're playing RB, that's great...except that they're playing RB--they might be in solo tour or doing BWT or playing online with someone else. You have no way of knowing.
2a. What I would suggest in that instance is inviting that friend as your last option unless they're someone you REALLY want to play with. Pick another of your RB friends who isn't playing RB (or anything, if possible) and shoot them a quick "Up for some Rock Band?" message. This gives you the opportunity to prepare a little and figure out what instruments everyone will be playing. You could also take the time to ask if there are any particular songs they'd like to play. Also a good time to check if you both have the same DLC.
3. When you're in RB, set up your band first. Get everyone ready to go who's going to be playing locally, then send out your invitation. This is really just common courtesy: if you invite me to play, you should be ready to play when I get there. The same holds true for receiving an invitation: don't respond until you're ready to play.
4. If you worked out some songs you want to play, have at it. If not, random songs are great, especially if you're dealing with someone who's played the game a lot. I don't have any songs that I flat won't play, but WOW did I play Dani California a lot of times yesterday. If you don't want to do random (it can get ugly, yes), try at least to come up with a varied set that gives everyone something to do, and maybe hit on a few of those songs that never get selected.
5. I haven't seen this one suggested anywhere, but I've been thinking about it: most people should be willing to flip back and forth between guitar and bass when they're playing in a group. But once in a while, you might have a song that both of your guitbass players really want to play the guitar part for. When that happens, consider doing a flip-flop: play the song twice in a row so the bassist and guitarist can switch places.
The biggest difficulty with the PS3 set up is that you can't talk your way through these things while you play. All that really means, though, is that you need to plan a bit more carefully.
A final note: when you're leaving a gig that you had a lot of fun playing, shoot a note to the other players before you shut down. Without voice chat, it's hard for people to know why you left when you did, so it doesn't hurt to send a little reassuring note telling them what a blast you had.
monkey92
12-28-2007, 04:41 PM
you guys are sad
why the hell even make a stupid thread about this
stop *****ing about peolpe online
it says game experience may change and IT DOES
so buck up and get over it you babys
gosh you people make me sick
you get this perfectly awesome game
and your gonna whine and ***** about fan caps n not enough songs
n losers online who quite
if it bothers you so much
heres a tip:
DONT PLAY ONLINE
you guys are sad
why the hell even make a stupid thread about this
stop *****ing about peolpe online
it says game experience may change and IT DOES
so buck up and get over it you babys
gosh you people make me sick
you get this perfectly awesome game
and your gonna whine and ***** about fan caps n not enough songs
n losers online who quite
if it bothers you so much
heres a tip:
DONT PLAY ONLINE
Dude, chill a little.
Thread is about making everyones on-line experience better.
We can't talk on-line so it's just ways to communicate what other may want and need while we are playing on-line together.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 05:07 PM
Dude, chill a little.
Thread is about making everyones on-line experience better.
We can't talk on-line so it's just ways to communicate what other may want and need while we are playing on-line together.
I wouldn't worry about him. He's just trolling. When people are so socially inept that they can't even carry on conversations online they resort to ranting nonsensically at anyone they can find in a vain attempt to get attention.
So just do what his parents should have done and ignore his temper tantrums. If you don't he'll just come back and flame you with badly punctuated sentences and incorrectly used swears.
DesiredFX that was an awesome post. I'm going to go ahead and put that on the first page if that is ok with you?
DesiredFX
12-28-2007, 05:21 PM
That's fine with me--I was actually thinking as I was writing it that it was about to become a whole new topic on its own!
I really would like to start playing in more planned bands--it's much better than swimming through random unpleasant band experiences in the hopes of finding someone worth playing with.
One of the really big minuses of the PSN messaging system is that a lot of people don't have keyboards hooked up, so writing messages can be a pain. Because of that I took my Rocker profile here and tried to put some general information in it about myself as a player, including a blog entry that lists all my DLC.
swamy72
12-28-2007, 05:26 PM
Sticky, sticky, sticky and sticky again
Parodygm
12-28-2007, 05:44 PM
Just as an aside, since much of the issues surrounding forming bands and sending invites centre around our inability to use voice chat...
Have Harmonix ever explicitly stated why voice chat doesn't appear on PS3 and perhaps more importantly, whether they consider this a priority and whether they intend to rectify this?
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 05:49 PM
Just as an aside, since much of the issues surrounding forming bands and sending invites centre around our inability to use voice chat...
Have Harmonix ever explicitly stated why voice chat doesn't appear on PS3 and perhaps more importantly, whether they consider this a priority and whether they intend to rectify this?
I haven't been able to find much on this but I do know that they don't make the vocals able to go live because of the lag. With the amount if problems already encountered with this function I'm sure it's going to be something they will rectify if they are able. I think it's more to do with the playstation network than harmonix though.
But you can chat on Warhawk so....hopefully soon, right?
DesiredFX
12-28-2007, 06:00 PM
Yes, voice chat is built into the PS3 operating system, which Rock Band uses to send invitations.
I would think that it wouldn't be too difficult to integrate it into Rock Band.
I haven't seen any indication from Harmonix that this is in any planned future patches, but then, since the PS3 patch debacle, they haven't said anything at all about what new features they're working on. I hope voice chat is one of them, as well as using the PS3's Friends Met feature.
Impyshaz
12-28-2007, 06:42 PM
Yes, voice chat is built into the PS3 operating system, which Rock Band uses to send invitations.
I would think that it wouldn't be too difficult to integrate it into Rock Band.
I haven't seen any indication from Harmonix that this is in any planned future patches, but then, since the PS3 patch debacle, they haven't said anything at all about what new features they're working on. I hope voice chat is one of them, as well as using the PS3's Friends Met feature.
Yeah, so I'm not sure why they couldn't get voice chat enabled for us. I'm sure (like most problems) it's some sort of legal issue with Sony. I'll keep watching the announcements page but right now it doesn't look good :/
Maybe we can come up with some sort of Morse code system to communicate ^.^
monkey92returns
12-28-2007, 06:57 PM
so impy are you the one blocking my replies or is everyone trying to prevent me from saying how i feel about your childish behavior?
^there's your punctuation mark for ya =] i know how much it means to you
Impyshaz
12-29-2007, 12:21 AM
We have started making Rock Band Only messenger accounts for online PS3 communication. I don't know how many of you have access to a handy computer while you play but if you are interested shoot us a PSN message and we'll add you to our messenger. Since we're making names exclusively for rock band we can easily create a new account on whatever mode of chat you so choose.
This not only gives you the ability to ask the person you're playing with what song they want but also allows you to give excuses if your playing suddenly sucks >.< Sorry about that DesiredFX. We were off tonight.
DesiredFX
12-29-2007, 12:30 AM
Yeah, so I'm not sure why they couldn't get voice chat enabled for us. I'm sure (like most problems) it's some sort of legal issue with Sony. I'll keep watching the announcements page but right now it doesn't look good :/
Maybe we can come up with some sort of Morse code system to communicate ^.^
I'm guessing it was more a time issue than anything else--the PS3 operating system has been updated several times in the last few months. It's possible Harmonix didn't have enough of a window to get a stable version of voice chat working before the release.
And I think your IM system worked great as a substitute for voice chat. Should be a great workaround for anyone who plays Rock Band near a PC.
EDIT: no apologies necessary Impyshaz. I failed out myself a couple times. It's a lot better to play with a few fail outs than playing with someone who is determined to play on Expert despite not mastering Easy yet.
Hanover
12-29-2007, 02:32 AM
Keep your tandem singing/instrument playing to BWT...and if you must do that, please be good at it before you go online. I had someone fail a song like 5 times in a row before I just gave up and found another online game.
You can tell those people because they will have a name like, "Studmuffin" and "Studdmuffin(1)"
Ventura
12-29-2007, 02:51 AM
On this forum you will find the makers of this game state that the headset for Xbox live has enough lag to make your singing distracting for the rest of the players as it will be 1/2 second off from the vocals on the track. You are encouraged NOT to sing into the headset.
It wasn't the turning off the headset while singing that I was actually referring to, it's just how it was worded in with his other "demands".
I just found the whole "keep the chat channel free so I can tell you when to use overdrive" very, very arrogant. I'm all for saving up the power until I can maximise it's use alongside everyone else in the band, but I'm not about to deploy just because some young punk on the other end thinks he can dictate to the rest of us.
And if you think that makes me a troll for calling that as arrogant, too bad for you mate.
Impyshaz
12-29-2007, 04:42 AM
Whatever man, it sounded a lot like you were misconstruing the original post. In some ways I can see where you're coming from though I still think it's ineffective to refuse to listen to the suggestions of band mates. I would agree that there are some players that are more arrogant than their skill allows and in which case I expect they will make bad suggestions such as ordering you to deploy overdrive when you don't have any. If you are talking about only disregarding people's advice when they are rude or clearly don't know what they are talking about then I agree with you completely. But if you will never listen to anyone because you think they couldn't possibly know better than you, than you were being arrogant and not playing by the rules of team dynamics. You need to be able to work together if you ever want to play seriously in a group.
So I'll just assume I misread you and say I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.
janai
12-29-2007, 04:45 AM
On behalf of all vocalists playing Rock Band, I'd also like to make a (not so) small request, having run into this problem several times tonight:
Unless you KNOW that all three instrumentalists absolutely, positively know what they're doing on this particular song, DO NOT select "Foreplay/Long Time". Just don't. There's nearly three entire minutes where the singer has nothing to do except for a few tambourine hits, and if you flub, fail out on the song, and then decide to start over, that sound you're hearing over the psychic plane is me weeping from boredom.
...ah, melodrama. :) But the point stands.
Other than that, though, I had a blast tonight. Now if only I could be the band leader just once so I could toss "Dani California" into the sea and pick a couple personal faves instead.... :)
janai
12-29-2007, 04:52 AM
We have started making Rock Band Only messenger accounts for online PS3 communication. I don't know how many of you have access to a handy computer while you play but if you are interested shoot us a PSN message and we'll add you to our messenger. Since we're making names exclusively for rock band we can easily create a new account on whatever mode of chat you so choose.
Good idea, and the more PS3 users on that, the better...
Impyshaz
12-29-2007, 04:54 AM
On behalf of all vocalists playing Rock Band, I'd also like to make a (not so) small request, having run into this problem several times tonight:
Unless you KNOW that all three instrumentalists absolutely, positively know what they're doing on this particular song, DO NOT select "Foreplay/Long Time". Just don't. There's nearly three entire minutes where the singer has nothing to do except for a few tambourine hits, and if you flub, fail out on the song, and then decide to start over, that sound you're hearing over the psychic plane is me weeping from boredom.
...ah, melodrama. :) But the point stands.
Other than that, though, I had a blast tonight. Now if only I could be the band leader just once so I could toss "Dani California" into the sea and pick a couple personal faves instead.... :)
I try not to be to picky but I refuse to play Foreplay/Longtime if they fail it. That is actually two songs put together and Foreplay does not have any singing in it. Someone did that the other night and I just said "no!!!"
And I have also played Dani California five times in an hour. I don't think I want to play it at all anymore >.>;
janai
12-29-2007, 05:01 AM
I try not to be to picky but I refuse to play Foreplay/Longtime if they fail it. That is actually two songs put together and Foreplay does not have any singing in it. Someone did that the other night and I just said "no!!!"
And I have also played Dani California five times in an hour. I don't think I want to play it at all anymore >.>;
Right there with you. Freezepop was such a relief after the Dani onslaught. :)
After reading the Girl Test thread earlier today, though, I'm amused to report that out of every group I played with tonight... not one of them picked "I'm So Sick." Go figure. (Especially since, barring the annoyingly sensitive talky bit, I can nail that on expert every time.)
MtOgNhKfEuY
12-29-2007, 01:05 PM
you guys are sad
why the hell even make a stupid thread about this
stop *****ing about peolpe online
it says game experience may change and IT DOES
so buck up and get over it you babys
gosh you people make me sick
you get this perfectly awesome game
and your gonna whine and ***** about fan caps n not enough songs
n losers online who quite
if it bothers you so much
heres a tip:
DONT PLAY ONLINE
wow this guy's right
and why go after him because of grammar this is a forum
you guys are insicure
DesiredFX
12-29-2007, 01:16 PM
wow this guy's right
and why go after him because of grammar this is a forum
you guys are insicure
Gee...his name was monkey92, and your name is "MONKEY" mixed with "tghfu" ...and you have all of one post...I wonder if you could possibly be the same poster...
Back to the topic: I'm definitely happier with playing in a more organized fashion. We played a wide variety of songs last night, including a bunch of the DLC, and I didn't have to play ANYTHING more than once.
At this point, it actually gets tricky because there are so many songs that it's easy to miss a few that are actually pretty fun. Maybe if I've played with the same people a few times, we'll get around to some of the songs we missed last night.
MtOgNhKfEuY
12-29-2007, 01:20 PM
[QUOTE=DesiredFX;220543]Gee...his name was monkey92, and your name is "MONKEY" mixed with "tghfu" ...and you have all of one post...I wonder if you could possibly be the same poster...QUOTE]
uhhh no i didnt even pay attention to his name why dont you back off
why do you people set up a public forum and not allow anyone to express there opinion
im expressing mine and you your
so back off
and thats kinda cool that his name is like mine and the reason my name is like this is because i couldnt get monkeyman so i settled for less
if you wanna be that nosey
DesiredFX
12-29-2007, 01:35 PM
Yes, and you conveniently and coincidentally format your posts the same way he does rather than using actual paragraphs like the rest of the human race.
Do everyone a favor and leave this topic alone. Neither you nor your "friend" have contributed a thing to it.
MtOgNhKfEuY
12-29-2007, 01:42 PM
yoiur not contributing anything to the world
but im not complaining
DesiredFX
12-29-2007, 01:53 PM
If all you're about is flaming and trolling, take it somewhere like Yahoo! games where the 13-year-olds will think you're "cool."
And, yes, this is the equivalent of your mom sending you to the kiddie table at Thanksgiving.
TribalDancer
12-29-2007, 03:48 PM
Don't feed the monkey...er...troll.
Hanover
12-29-2007, 06:23 PM
*PLEASE* buy DLC! I've purchased every single song that's available.
Unfortunately, everyone I end up playing with usually only has the tracks that came with the game. It'd actually be nice to play something else for a change.
I wish there was a "Player Match" for online where you could set a percentage of DLC that matches you up with people who've also have the DLC you own.
Impyshaz
12-29-2007, 07:20 PM
We're having the same problem. That's why I'm doing the friend thing. Feel free to add us if you play PSN. We have most of the songs baring a few that we couldn't agree on.
I know that there are still a bunch of songs that I haven't even played yet. Lets fix that :)
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