Possible Keyboard in Rock Band?

[mwoodsknight]

Now I know this might be last on everyones mind, but is a Keyboard oging to be out for rock band anytime because a lot of songs have keyboard in them and it'd be pretty sweet including a keyboard in rock band, like by having each hand have 5 notes to hit or something like that.

[Ghawk7412]

I was thinking this to that it would be cool maybe Rockband 2?

[Damien]

This would be a great idea and addition to RockBand. Songs like What I've Done and Numb from Linkin Park would really benefit having this, and I'm sure there's other songs that are already in Rock Band that could use the piano.

[jewnig94]

wow i thought me n my friends were the only ones thinking this i think its a sick idea especially for some scary kids scaring kids songs or linkin park

[Droenn]

its a good idea but itd be hard to make it work cause youd have to have a button on the normal xbox controler for every key on the keyboard, not to mention space on the screen for everything else

[boshajwa]

its a good idea but itd be hard to make it work cause youd have to have a button on the normal xbox controler for every key on the keyboard, not to mention space on the screen for everything else

yeah i know what you mean but i think the ps3 and pc could handle it since they both use a keyboard, so they can make as much bottoms as they want :rolleyes:

[AdamWill2]

I dunno. Bemani did two mixes of Keyboardmania and it never really caught on. I think the problem is that, unlike the guitar and drums, it's very hard to make a beginner-level mode that feels anything at all like the higher levels. It's hard to make a smooth progression.

Anyway, yeah, Keyboardmania got two arcade revisions and died, GuitarFreaks and DrumMania are on the 15th / 14th revision respectively and still going strong. Make of it what you will. I'm sure HMX / EA are aware of it.

[theMasterJuice]

It would be cool but I would actually want to see a theremin before a keyboard/piano. It would give the game a whole new edge.

edit:
yeah i know what you mean but i think the ps3 and pc could handle it since they both use a keyboard, so they can make as much bottoms as they want :rolleyes:

What does the ps3 controller have that the 360's doesn't? 12 buttons each right?

[Teh_Nfsjunkie91]

wow i thought me n my friends were the only ones thinking this i think its a sick idea especially for some scary kids scaring kids songs or linkin park

Or Boston, or The Who.

[AdamWill2]

BTW, another thought that occurred to me on this: we're in the world of rock here. Now, let's see, *in the world of rock*, think...

guitar?

Page, Hendrix, Clapton, Slash, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

vocals?

Cobain, Buckley (pick your favourite!), Plant, Mercury, Dylan, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

drums?

Bonham, Peart, Moon, Grohl, Chamberlain, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

keyboard players?

er....Rick Wakeman?

this isn't a dis on keyboard / piano players per se. Take jazz, blues, 'classical' music, even pop, you can pull out a list of great keyboard / piano players, of course. But we're talking *Rock* Band. The lists of Great Rock Guitarists, Vocalists and Drummers are gigantic, and hotly and passionately debated with a numbing regularity. The list of Great Rock Keyboard Players is one I'm not sure anyone's even bothered *making* yet.

I really don't think there's *that* many people out there saying to themselves "yeah, Rock Band is great and all, but screw being Jimmy Page, I want to be Rick Wakeman!" Nah.

Oh, and if that was too complicated for ya - it'd be a ***** to get the note chart on screen on its own, never mind along with everyone else's. :)

[TheGreatKtulu]

I don't think it would work. For one - doesn't the 360 only allow 4 players on the console? Keyboard would be instrument #5.

Not to mention the problems in fitting another note chart on the screen, especially one with say, 10 notes, instead of just 5.

It's not going to happen.

[SaltyDawg]

A keyboard would be GREAT!!!!

This is a must have in Rock band 2.

For anyone who says there isn't enough buttons or whatever, just look at Steel Battalion on the original Xbox. That thing had like 100 controls.

I think a keyboard with 10 buttons or something would be fine.

Also- lets get a Funk Band or something like that! I think it would be awesome to have a bunch of songs that people want to dance to. Some BeeGees, Average White Band, Parliament, etc...

[WiseOldUnicorn]

I really can't see Rock Band ever having a keyboard peripheral for two reasons:

1. Dude, there's no space on the screen for another note chart. I mean none. I'm amazed they even managed to fit four instruments on there as well as they did. If there were any more, the notes would be so small no one would be able to see their part well enough to play it.

2. If there were a keyboard peripheral, EVERY song in the game would have to include it. Think about it. We're already limited as it is--we can't have awesome bands like Liquid Tension Experiment because there's no vocals. Throwing in a keyboard peripheral would eliminate 90% of music from being included.

[cjkuhlenbeck]

1. Theres not enough screen room to fit a keyboard..
2. The consoles only support a max of 4 logged in players
3.Every song in the game doesnt have a keyboard, leaving someone out..duh
4. The guy who said PS3 and PC can do it but xbox cant is an idiot. Have you seen the messenger pad for 460? its got like 100 little keys all on the controller, running through 4 wires...It soesnt matter how many keys the controller has, it doesnt work that way. What about the effects switch? theres no switch on the controllers, and if it was set to hit a button, how come when you move the switch on the menu, the screen doesnt go nuts? its all software kids.

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[Marc10edora]

If they added a keyboard, Congas/bongos, and maybe some kind of saxophone, they could call the next game Funk Band.:D

[Flyerfye]

I was actually up late at night considering this. (I know, I'm a nutcase). And I ruled it out for most of the reasons already listed, but those aside... as someone who's played piano for most of my life, it just doesn't feel at all like a keyboard unless it's got at least 12 keys on it. And you can't do that on a controller. WAAY too steep a learning curve. Sure, we could simplify that to... 8 or so, but then the abstraction is worse than guitar, as the keys are all linear, making it... unconvincing at best. (you're going to be hitting a lot of the same keys for different notes, on an instrument that is purely linear in pitch) Guitar controllers can get away with 5 buttons because generally, people who don't play guitar have no idea which strings do what, so you can generally just hit a general area and it "feels" right. Not to mention, even with 8, we're talking a lot harder than guitar. It just... wouldn't work.

[Frederf]

Oooohhh Gunnnaaah Bee An Acordiiiannn Herrroooo. Gotta Get A Squeeezebox Too-day!

[Rastak]

I was actually up late at night considering this. (I know, I'm a nutcase). And I ruled it out for most of the reasons already listed, but those aside... as someone who's played piano for most of my life, it just doesn't feel at all like a keyboard unless it's got at least 12 keys on it. And you can't do that on a controller. WAAY too steep a learning curve. Sure, we could simplify that to... 8 or so, but then the abstraction is worse than guitar, as the keys are all linear, making it... unconvincing at best. (you're going to be hitting a lot of the same keys for different notes, on an instrument that is purely linear in pitch) Guitar controllers can get away with 5 buttons because generally, people who don't play guitar have no idea which strings do what, so you can generally just hit a general area and it "feels" right. Not to mention, even with 8, we're talking a lot harder than guitar. It just... wouldn't work.



I don't think this is true, you did explain at the end why guitar is less of an abstraction but the truth is, you have 120 or so "buttons" on a real guitar, so to speak. Add in all the chords and the guitar is just as much an abstraction if not more than a keyboard of 8 buttons.

I do agree that there may not be enough songs for a keyboard. Maybe you could do it like John Paul Jones of Led Zeppelin and have either a Bass or a Keyboard but not both for a song?

[Rastak]

One last thought...how about Blue Grass Band and have a Banjo controller?


:D

[m00p]

ur not going to get a keyboard unless u mod or they release Guns n Roses: November Rain as DLC

[Meldlm]

BTW, another thought that occurred to me on this: we're in the world of rock here. Now, let's see, *in the world of rock*, think...

guitar?

Page, Hendrix, Clapton, Slash, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

vocals?

Cobain, Buckley (pick your favourite!), Plant, Mercury, Dylan, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

drums?

Bonham, Peart, Moon, Grohl, Chamberlain, etc etc etc ad infinitum.

keyboard players?

er....Rick Wakeman?

Billy Joel, Phil Collins, Elton John?

Those came to mind right of the top of my head...I'm sure with more thought I could come up with plenty.

[SaltyDawg]

There is a keyboard in almost every rock song ever made. Some of the older rock songs may not have one, but a lot of them do, and just about every modern song has one. Keyboards don't always sound the way you think they do. Keyboards are commonly used to fill in with other sounds. For example- if you need a cowbell or tamborine, or if you need more string sounds like cellos or something...

Keyboards don't always sound like electric pianos. And even if the band doesn't have a full time keyboard player, chances are the studio they recorded the album at DOES have a full time keyboard player, and he will usually go over everything.

Modern keyboards have thousands of different sounds though. So you can;t spot it by just listening to the song.

[theMasterJuice]

If you said something about the four player thing, I am sure they could expand that. Just cause four people can be logged in doesn't really mean you can only have 4 instruments. If you sing, right there, you have a mic and a controller. In a bunch of songs (not nearly all), you can mainly hear the keys being played when the singer isn't singing. I think this would be a great alternative to playing the tambourine..

[KDLynch]

I also would love to see a keyboard controller... perhaps with 10 keys, plus a 'strum' button (not necessarily a bar like the guitar).

Currently, we use the same guitar controller for both guitar and bass. It could also be easily used for banjo (the aforementioned BlueGrass Hero), mandolin, or even violin... in a more disturbed way (hold strum for extending notes perhaps).

If we had a strummer of sorts on this theoretical keyboard controller, it would allow for us to also use it for other instruments... someone here mentioned SqueezeBox Hero? doable. Or it could be used as a steel pedal for country songs.

There is a question of screen space... but just because there .are. more instruments, doesn't mean .you. have to play more than 4. I can't imagine anyone trying to play an 6-player band in front of a 24" tv... the larger TVs have plenty of space for more tracks while maintaining readability. By using 8 or 10 notes on a (highly) abstracted keyboard, I believe it can fit in the same screen space as the current gtr/drum tracks, using 1/2 width notes.

Oh, and someone couldn't think of but 1 rock keyboardist... I thought of quite a few, though I do listen to a lot of progrock, so I'm biased. But here's a list you should find many that you've heard: http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_keyboard.html

On a related note... I'd also like to see rhythm guitar as a choice. Not just lead. Quite a number of bands use the 2 gtrs (often with 1 doing vocals as well), 1 bass, drums path.

The last problem, the no-more-than-4-players-on-at-once-on-the-360-locally... >that< would be the only potential deal breaker for the whole idea that I could agree with. I don't have a 360, just the ps3, so I don't know if that is really true or not. But even then, have 4 players local, and the others via remote... can even "shrink" the other networked players tracks to give more room on your screen for whoever is playing on that specific console. For instance, you've got 3 people playing local (drums, vox, bass), and quickplay have rhythm and gtr. On your screen you'd see drums/vox/bass at fullsize, and 1/2 sized rhythm and gtr tracks (perhaps vertically stacked). Just another random thought. :)

[smokinjoe]

I know I have plenty of frienda that would love to have a keyboard to play with RB.

[jblaisuri]

i can't see that working. the problem is that literally every song has a guitar, bass, drums, and vocals (except for When Doves Cry...which has no baseline. but i digress).

So then you'd have a keyboard peripheral, and short of a Journey/REO Speedwagon-laden soundtrack, you couldn't use it on every song. so what then, the keyboard player sits out?

[jblaisuri]

Billy Joel, Phil Collins, Elton John?

Those came to mind right of the top of my head...I'm sure with more thought I could come up with plenty.

It's "Rockband" not "Adult-ContemporaryBand"

[3Z3VH]

Screw a keyboard, we need a Key-tar !!!!
http://cjalvarado.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/04/keytar_awesome.gif

[Meldlm]

It's "Rockband" not "Adult-ContemporaryBand"

Did you throw out Journey and REO-Speedwagon and then come talk some smack to me about Billy Joel?!

You can't have actually just done that.

[Chris_Gonzalez]

I'd love a keyboard (some Allman Brothers would be amazing for this, and no Deep Purple song is complete without an Organ solo), but they would have to get rid of an instrument in local play for the 360 because they only have support for 4 controllers at once. It'd be fine on the PS3 because, for some odd reason, it can have up to 7 controllers connected locally.

And screen space would be far too crowded if there was a keyboard.

[AdamWill2]

"Billy Joel, Phil Collins, Elton John?

Those came to mind right of the top of my head...I'm sure with more thought I could come up with plenty."

Pop, drummer, pop. As I said, there are many great keyboard / piano players, but they really don't fit into the rock categories that come in Rock Band.

[jblaisuri]

Did you throw out Journey and REO-Speedwagon and then come talk some smack to me about Billy Joel?!

You can't have actually just done that.

you missed the point.... my point was that (with very few exceptions ie nov rain), keyboards in "rock" are pretty lame (like Journey and REO Speedwagon). Then I read your post about billy joel and elton john (who are good artists, and good pianists, but not rock stars) and that just further proved my point.. Keyboards don't serve a prominent place in the history of rock n roll.

[Rastak]

you missed the point.... my point was that (with very few exceptions ie nov rain), keyboards in "rock" are pretty lame (like Journey and REO Speedwagon). Then I read your post about billy joel and elton john (who are good artists, and good pianists, but not rock stars) and that just further proved my point.. Keyboards don't serve a prominent place in the history of rock n roll.



Tell that to "Emerson Lake and Palmer" and "Yes".

[Parodygm]

I2. If there were a keyboard peripheral, EVERY song in the game would have to include it. Think about it. We're already limited as it is--we can't have awesome bands like Liquid Tension Experiment because there's no vocals. Throwing in a keyboard peripheral would eliminate 90% of music from being included.

'nuff said. It's brought up in every thread of this kind. If a counter-argument is going to be "it's okay, they can sit out a song or play rhythm" then I say "throw me some Joe Satriani or Cliffs of Dover".

[TribalDancer]

I, too, was thinking that a keyboard would be great.

The argument that it can't be done because there are only so many controls doesn't fly with me. There are not only 10-12 buttons available on the controllers, but the games can read COMBOS of buttons as well. So say the first few notes/keys are keyed to the usual: X,O Square, triangle, R1, R2, etc...then other notes/keys are keyed to X-O, Square-O, Triangle-O, R1-L1, R1-X, etc. Can get a lot more key recognition out of that. No prob.

I agree tho that screen space is an issue. As is number of peripherals limited by some consoles. But ultimately, we don't have to play ALL instruments locally (as was already mentioned), or even all instruments period. Right now we are only playing drums, guitar, and vocals. If we had the option of a second guitar or a keyboard, maybe we would prefer one over another, or choose one over another based on the song we are playing (which could be another option if they ever fix the "characters are locked to one instrument" issue). Imagine if, as in real life, you could play drums on one song, and keyboards on another, then vocals on the next (Phil Collins was already mentioned!), based on which we preferred or were best at. This would open up the game in a huge way!!

In short, I love the idea of keyboards.

[3Z3VH]

It is a shame most good Satriani songs have no lyrics, making them a non-candidate for RB... but if they implemented a keyboard, 'sitting out for a song' would be more widely accepted, and thus, we'd see some Satriani shredding !

[jblaisuri]

Tell that to "Emerson Lake and Palmer" and "Yes".

again...exceptions rather than the rule.

the problem is that while every song has vocals, guitar, bass, and drums, not every song has keyboard in it.

[boshajwa]

It would be cool but I would actually want to see a theremin before a keyboard/piano. It would give the game a whole new edge.

edit:

What does the ps3 controller have that the 360's doesn't? 12 buttons each right?

dont try to be a smart a$$. they could use a pc keyboard to build the music keyboard which the 360 cant handle. again dont try to be a smart a$$ ;)

[cjkuhlenbeck]

dont try to be a smart a$$. they could use a pc keyboard to build the music keyboard which the 360 cant handle. again dont try to be a smart a$$ ;)
Once again, but this time with images for the PS3 users...
If a 360 can only support 12 buttons...how come it will support this ADDED ONTO the existing controller..and yes it works i have one
http://www.gadgetreview.com/wp-content/uploads/2007/07/xbox_messenger_pad-2.jpg
but a 360 can't support that many buttons right? I told you either system will support anything, you just gotta have the software

P.S. It runs off microsofts mini usb plug on the bottom of the wireless/wired controllers. So bam...Go somewhere else for console wars :| (PPS, i like PS3 better lol :P)

[Xero314-2]

For all of those that don't know there music history, please look up the origins and history of Rock Music. Billy Joel and Elton John are certainly classic rockers. Billy Joel's music even verges on Hard Rock. Pop is not a category of music as it includes all music that is POPular. If you are not including Joel and John in rock music then you need to take out Hetfield and Mustane since Thrash Metal is not Rock by your limited definition.

For those that want a reference to great Rock Keyboardists please see this abbreviated list (http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_keyboard.html).

And as a note to Harmonix, not evey song needs to feature every instrument, plenty of us would really enjoy some instrumentals or even some solo works like Anesthesia. I realize this is the niche filled by Guitar Hero, but screw that crappy game, I would much rather play these songs in Rock Band.

[SaltyDawg]

For all who say the Xbox 360 can't handle more buttons than a regular controller, I posted earlier the Steel battallion controller has more buttons, but it got ignored (I guess). Here's a picture- and I have this and used to play it every day on my 360:

http://www.bitsaga.com/thearchive/800/25.jpg

So we could have a pretty decent keyboard with just half the controls on that thing... And, again, it works just fine on the Xbox 360.

[jblaisuri]

For all of those that don't know there music history, please look up the origins and history of Rock Music. Billy Joel and Elton John are certainly classic rockers. Billy Joel's music even verges on Hard Rock. Pop is not a category of music as it includes all music that is POPular. If you are not including Joel and John in rock music then you need to take out Hetfield and Mustane since Thrash Metal is not Rock by your limited definition.

For those that want a reference to great Rock Keyboardists please see this abbreviated list (http://www.digitaldreamdoor.com/pages/best_keyboard.html).

And as a note to Harmonix, not evey song needs to feature every instrument, plenty of us would really enjoy some instrumentals or even some solo works like Anesthesia. I realize this is the niche filled by Guitar Hero, but screw that crappy game, I would much rather play these songs in Rock Band.

i have a perfectly firm grasp of music history. I'm a big billy joel fan, but aside from a few songs (You may be right, big shot, etc) he isn't "rock" in the sense that most artists included in this game are. Including artists such as joel and elton john would essentially change the game from "rockband" to "keyboard hero", as the vast majority of their songs revolve around the piano... you would lose the synergistic aspect of the game. EVERY song has vocals, guitar, bass, and drums.... filling out a soundtrack with songs that include piano (especially with the propensity that john/joel use them) would fundamentally change the focus of the game.

that's all i was saying...cool your jets

[TribalDancer]

It wouldn't "change the game to keyboard hero". How silly! Any more than having vocals makes it "Singing Hero"! It is just more variety!

[Xero314-2]

i have a perfectly firm grasp of music history. I'm a big billy joel fan, but aside from a few songs (You may be right, big shot, etc) he isn't "rock" in the sense that most artists included in this game are.


Most of the artists in Rock Band aren't Rock in the same since, they cover a fairly wide range of Rock, and artists such as Billy Joel, Elton John, and allow me to now add Jerry Lee Lewis*, would certainly only expand the coverage. In his hey day, Billy Joel was out rocking plenty of the bands in RB like The Killers, Wheezer, or songs like Black Holed Sun, and Maps. Joel's rocking songs are certainly more than two, and include Movin' Out, Only the Good Die Young, Pressure and the obvious, It's still Rock and Roll to Me.

But Joel and John are just examples of a sub genre of rock that has so far been left out, and it would be interesting if they could add them in, and that would require a keyboard controller.



Including artists such as joel and elton john would essentially change the game from "rockband" to "keyboard hero", as the vast majority of their songs revolve around the piano... you would lose the synergistic aspect of the game. EVERY song has vocals, guitar, bass, and drums.... filling out a soundtrack with songs that include piano (especially with the propensity that john/joel use them) would fundamentally change the focus of the game.

No one said you would have to include all their songs, any more than the RB sound track has to include La Villa Strangiato, Waking the Fallen or any other rock instrumental (though it would be damn nice).

So they could make a keyboard optional add on and only have keyboard tracks for certain songs. This way they could keep from crowding the screen by limiting to 4 instruments, you just drop one of the others for the keyboard.

But getting some instrumentals in the game should be a much higher priority than a keyboard add on, though the keyboard add on would probably make Harmonix et. al. more money.

*Anyone that tries to argue that Jerry Lee Lewis did not play rock music should basically be ignored when it comes to music.

[SaltyDawg]

Again, every single song in Rock Band has some keyboard in it. These guys who keep saying keyboards have no place in rock don't know what they're talking about.

To put it bluntly- I can play every single song in Rock Band, in its entirety, solely on my keyboard. No guitars, no drums, no bass, no tamborine, etc. Only my keyboard. And it will sound exactly the same as it sounds with the guitar, bass, drums, etc.

These guys are looking for an electric piano type of sound and if they don't find it they assume there is no keyboard.

Well I have news for you, unless the album is just a recording of a live concert and it was never mastered, then it was recorded in a studio. And every professional studio out there and even most amateur studios, will have a keyboard they use to go over everything with.

And no, it won't sound like an electric piano. It will sound like guitar, bass, drums, violins, cellos, tamborines, whistles, washboards, pads, background noise, etc.

Try going to a studio that actually does recording and mastering and try to find one that doesn't have a keyboard. You guys just flat out don't know what you're talking about. And the big studios these platinum artists/record companies are using will absolutely have keyboards. No question about it.

You don't think they process audio? Then why isn't every album just a recording of a concert? And if you agree that most audio is processed, then what do you think they use to process it? A keyboard is a huge part of it.

And for the record, there's plenty of keyboard (even the electric piano sounding keyboard) in Van Halen's music.

[TribalDancer]

Salty, I hear you. But I for one would love the idea of a keyboard, but don't want to play what I could essentially play on one of the other instruments. If I play keyboard, I want to play keyboard, and have it sound like it, or at least like some other instrument that is not alread available. Just MHO.

[zepplinmike]

I can't believe that Ray Manzerek of The Doors hasn't been mentioned yet.

[SaltyDawg]

Salty, I hear you. But I for one would love the idea of a keyboard, but don't want to play what I could essentially play on one of the other instruments. If I play keyboard, I want to play keyboard, and have it sound like it, or at least like some other instrument that is not alread available. Just MHO.

You could do a rhythm guitar on the keyboard and use the guitar for the lead. Or you could do a vocal effect on the keyboard. Or you could even do a guitar effect on the keyboard. Or a drum effect.

That's just the tip of the iceberg. There's tons of things that were done with a keyboard on every single song in Rock Band that could be implemented into Rock Band 2. You don't have to get rid of guitar just because there is a keyboard. The keyboard can support any of the other instruments, as well as being a stand alone instrument.

I don't really want to hijack the thread though, since that is not what this thread is talking about. I only wanted to point out that all the people saying "there are no keyboards in rock music" were way, way off base. There is plenty of keyboard in almost every rock song ever made since the 70's.

[Xero314-2]

I can't believe that Ray Manzerek of The Doors hasn't been mentioned yet.

Manzerek is a great example and I feel stupid I missed it. Not only was he decent keyboardist it was his keyboard that played all the Bass lines in every doors song ever made. The Doors, a fantastic rock band, included 4 members, a guitarist, a drummer, a pianist, and Jim. The Doors could never be accurately represented in Rock Band because of this.

[xxpigxx]

Bands in RB that have piano/keyboard players:

Black Sabbath
Radiohead
Weezer
Jet
Soundgarden
Hole
Smashing Pumpkins
Red Hot Chili Peppers
Sweet
KISS
Blue Oyster Cult
New Pornographers
Faith No More
Molly Hatchet
Boston
Rolling Stones
Queens of the Stone Age
Nine Inch Nails
OK Go
Deep Purple
Garbage
Foo Fighters
Yeah Yeah Yeah's
Police
REM
Beasty Boys
David Bowie
Rush
Aerosmith
Bon Jovi
Killers
Who
Coheed and Cambria

Bands in RB without a pinao/keybaord player:

Fallout Boy
Metallica
Ramones
Outlaws
Nirvana
The Hives
Iron Maiden
Clash
Stone Temple Pilots
Pixies

Seems that having a keyboardist is the norm, not vice versa

[Xero314-2]

Close on that list but I know for a fact that Black Sabbath has had many songs featuring piano or keyboard and they even had a dedicated keyboardist, Geoff Nicholls, from 1985 though 1997.

[xxpigxx]

Fixed.

I guess I had a brain fart. Sorry. :D
Point still stands . . . ;)