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bengino
03-23-2010, 01:39 AM
http://www.gamespot.com/news/6253980.html?tag=latestheadlines;title;1




EA has poured significant investment into growing its digital distribution business, a strategy that has for the past couple of years contributed to steep losses. One positive result for gamers, however, has been a glut of postrelease downloadable content packs for the publisher's top titles, some of which have carried a premium. Soon, it appears as if EA will be expanding its "PDLC," or premium downloadable content, approach into the prerelease realm.


In a note to investors today, Wedbush's Michael Pachter detailed a recent investor event at the publisher's Redwood City, California, headquarters in which group general manager Nick Earl laid out EA's prerelease PDLC initiative. According to the analyst, EA would release what he called "a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009's Battlefield 1943" through Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network for $10 to $15.

"A full-blown packaged game would follow shortly after the release of the PDLC, bearing a full retail price," Pachter said. "Mr. Earl believes that the release of the PDLC first limits the risk of completing and marketing the full packaged version, and serves as a low-cost marketing tool."

Notably, Battlefield 1943 represented a significant boon for EA upon its critically lauded release for $15 on the Xbox 360 and PlayStation 3 in July. During Battlefield 1943's debut month, EA proclaimed it the fastest-selling day-one and week-one downloadable exclusive title on Xbox Live worldwide, or on PSN in North America. In November, the publisher said that DICE's online-only multiplayer shooter had sold 1.2 million units across the two platforms.

Pachter's note also made mention of Visceral Games' heretofore speculated downloadable game Ripper. According to Pachter, Ripper will be released through Xbox Live and PSN. Rumors indicate that the game will offer a Van Helsing-like heroic take on notorious serial killer Jack the Ripper. EA had not responded to requests for further comment as of press time.

One other point of note from the investor event, Pachter said that EA CEO John Riccitiello "acknowledged that the company had performed poorly over the first years of his tenure, and admitted that the turnaround of the company was taking longer than he originally expected." According to Pachter, Riccitiello went on to say that EA was about two-thirds of the way through its turnaround and one-third of the way toward reaching its goal of transformation into a business that distributes games through "multiple channels."

Lawdog1521
03-23-2010, 02:08 AM
In short, "Pay $75 instead of $60 for our games."

bengino
03-23-2010, 02:23 AM
in reality, i can't see this being successful at all. If i really want to try it, i can probably rent the damn thing for cheaper, at least i get the full thing and not just some short advertisement of the product. Example, i downloaded the latest Splinter Cell game, at 1.9GB i was expecting a pretty lengthy demo, boy was i wrong, really short and didn't allow for all that much overall feel of the game.

CaptainKicker
03-23-2010, 04:10 AM
Typical EA.

Kariodude
03-23-2010, 04:13 AM
If you read up on the situation, more things have been said about it. Basically, demos like the ones we already have wouldn't ever get a price tag. They are thinking about charging for really long demos. Like a demo that spans a huge chunk of the game, as opposed to a little taste like what most demos are.

Soja
03-23-2010, 04:15 AM
Guess I'll just stop sampling EA games then. See how that works? What's next? Coin-op demo kiosks at E3 for EA titles?

I guess this could work if it's like pre-ordering titles, that being you get that much of the price written off the full purchase. But I doubt it.

Kariodude
03-23-2010, 04:21 AM
They said they don't plan on charging anything for normal demos. They are only going to charge for really long demos. It'll be like this:

Splinter Cell Demo: Free
Splinter Cell 4 Full Missions Demo: $10
Splinter Cell Full Game : $60

They never said they were going to stop making free demos.

weirdphil
03-23-2010, 05:58 AM
I'd rather they take the Fable II approach, where you could play a decent amount for free and purchase the remainder of the game through digital distribution... If they are planning on charging for longer demos, I at least expect to buy the rest of the game without leaving my house.

Oscar-Rio
03-23-2010, 08:10 AM
only an idiot would pay for a demo. It's like charging people to try on clothes to see if they fit.

Starfleet_Rambo
03-23-2010, 08:16 AM
For 10 bucks I could just drive to Blockbuster, rent a game for a week, and play the ENTIRE game.

Silly EA.

ArmsAreLoud
03-23-2010, 08:34 AM
Wow, Slippery Slope much, people? :l

Really, I don't see this as a big deal at all.

sidman69
03-23-2010, 09:40 AM
For 10 bucks I could just drive to Blockbuster, rent a game for a week, and play the ENTIRE game.

Silly EA.

That won't be the case soon as blockbuster is going bankrupt.

Pwnz0r3d
03-23-2010, 01:52 PM
For 10 bucks I could just drive to Blockbuster, rent a game for a week, and play the ENTIRE game.

Silly EA.

Jeez ten bones for rental?

Hastings is $5-$7

Well then again, Blockbuster is desperate

Payable demos, it could work (if you buy the premium demo for $10, you should get the game $10 off on D2D or through a console's online service)

But if it doesnt, this is stupid.

But then again it is optional so i wouldnt worry about it.

Starfleet_Rambo
03-23-2010, 02:02 PM
That won't be the case soon as blockbuster is going bankrupt.

True, and I've only rented XBOX 360 games twice in two years, so it won't be a big deal. *shrugs*


Jeez ten bones for rental?

Hastings is $5-$7

Well then again, Blockbuster is desperate

Never heard of Hastings (are they even national?).

Magnet
03-23-2010, 02:37 PM
Companies have been charging for game demos for many, many years now in roundabout ways. People hyped about a certain game have shown a willingness to spend $50-$60 on a game they don't care about just to play an exclusive game demo that it comes with. They'd just be targeting that market more directly now.

BuRn7 CaK3
03-23-2010, 02:47 PM
For 10 bucks I could just drive to Blockbuster, rent a game for a week, and play the ENTIRE game.

Silly EA.

But blockbuster is going bankrupt... I'd use GameFly. Spend about $8 a month for unlimited rentals, and BOOM, you're better off already.

I'm also lol'ing at the people complaining about it. Sure, it may seem stupid to you. But these demos give you a bigger taste of the game than a normal demo would. Therefore, giving you more of an opinion if you want the game or not.

bermuddy
03-23-2010, 02:54 PM
wouldnt renting the the WHOLE game for 10 bucks better than a "long demo" for the same price?

Ehfahq
03-23-2010, 03:39 PM
wouldnt renting the the WHOLE game for 10 bucks better than a "long demo" for the same price?

Yep. But we know how impatient some people are. They are willing to throw down 10 bucks to play part of a game for a few weeks before dropping 60 bucks.

Now if they could work it out so the demo fee is taken out of the price of the game when you buy it, I would do this. But you cant get new games straight to your HD.

Its a waste for me.

rockfresh126
03-23-2010, 04:01 PM
The way I've read the idea for this is simple....

Beta test the game for the company, market the game for the company, and pay them for the ability to do so. No thanks

Goatbuster
03-23-2010, 06:34 PM
I'd rather they take the Fable II approach, where you could play a decent amount for free and purchase the remainder of the game through digital distribution

That's what I was thinking. Pay 15$ for demo -> Game comes out -> Fork over remaining $45. Done.

Pwnz0r3d
03-23-2010, 09:14 PM
Never heard of Hastings (are they even national?).

I dont believe so

If so, everyone else is missing out :p

ArmsAreLoud
03-24-2010, 10:01 AM
Yep. But we know how impatient some people are. They are willing to throw down 10 bucks to play part of a game for a few weeks before dropping 60 bucks.

Now if they could work it out so the demo fee is taken out of the price of the game when you buy it, I would do this. But you cant get new games straight to your HD.

Its a waste for me.

*COUGH*Steam*COUGHCOUGH*

Derp.

Ehfahq
03-24-2010, 10:49 AM
In a note to investors today, Wedbush's Michael Pachter detailed a recent investor event at the publisher's Redwood City, California, headquarters in which group general manager Nick Earl laid out EA's prerelease PDLC initiative. According to the analyst, EA would release what he called "a very long game demo, along the lines of 2009's Battlefield 1943" through Xbox Live and the PlayStation Network for $10 to $15.



*COUGH*Steam*COUGHCOUGH*

Derp.

I wasnt aware that Steam works on my Xbox 360.

Oh wait it doesnt.

Derp.