1 thing about the drums

[tmanrocks]

They aren't lined up the same color scheme left to right as the guitar

I think this may cause some confusion... anyone else think it might?

[newwaytodie]

Shouldnt be too hard to figure out.

[ledrums]

maybe. i dont really think so, tho. experienced drummers will probably not even really care about the colors(i dont) simply because, like after playing guitar hero for a while, you simply "feel" the notes. so, since i play drums, no problem. less experienced people? i honestly think if u hav to look and make sure that the red note lines up with the red....plastic thing, then hit it, it wont mattr. sry if noone figures out wut im trying to say

[the_spike]

Yeah it'll throw me off at first. I don't really see the point in switching around the colors on the drums.

[Akaymay]

Eh, after I play for more than 20 minutes, I'll be fine.

[Swagger]

maybe. i dont really think so, tho. experienced drummers will probably not even really care about the colors(i dont) simply because, like after playing guitar hero for a while, you simply "feel" the notes. so, since i play drums, no problem. less experienced people? i honestly think if u hav to look and make sure that the red note lines up with the red....plastic thing, then hit it, it wont mattr. sry if noone figures out wut im trying to say

I know what you mean. I don't care, i don't see how anyone would care. I won't be staring at the drums, I just need them to sit right.

[IOIHUMMERIOI]

Give me a quick run through on easy and I'll be fine.

[MrtyMcfly]

The color scheme is just an initial thing to let you know where notes are. After that it's just placement.

For example, I don't have to make sure I'm pressing the green button on the guitar for the green note, to me it's not the color, it's the button my index finger goes to. My middle finger on the yellow, etc.

So when playing the drums, you're not hitting the red pad, you're hitting the pad all the way to the left.

Does that make sense?

[PurpleHaze]

The color scheme is just an initial thing to let you know where notes are. After that it's just placement.

For example, I don't have to make sure I'm pressing the green button on the guitar for the green note, to me it's not the color, it's the button my index finger goes to. My middle finger on the yellow, etc.

So when playing the drums, you're not hitting the red pad, you're hitting the pad all the way to the left.Yes, the placement is the most important piece of information, but I think the color does make a difference, it's one more piece of information, even if it's not processed at a conscious level. For instance, I've noticed that I tend to miss slightly more often when star power is active because the notes aren't colored. The way I see it, it doesn't make any sense for the color of the drum notes to be different from the color of the guitar notes - there's certainly no advantage in them being different.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

They aren't lined up the same color scheme left to right as the guitar

I think this may cause some confusion... anyone else think it might?

Take your SG, Explorer, or whatever it is you may have. Reverse the buttons and see for yourself. Is it going to cause any problems for you? No didn't thinks so! NEXT!

[lithiumkc]

Take your SG, Explorer, or whatever it is you may have. Reverse the buttons and see for yourself. Is it going to cause any problems for you? No didn't thinks so! NEXT!

Yeah basically.. Take a sharpie and color all the buttons on your SG black. Are you not going to play anything because there's no black notes coming up? Nah, you can process what your fingers should do based on what's on the screen, not based on the colors of the buttons / drums. Left note = left pad. Right note = right pad. Colors come second once you get the hang of it.

[Ardius]

I wouldnt see it as a problem, seeing as I think of the buttons (or pads in this sense) as left to right rather than specific colours. Its easier that way.

[PurpleHaze]

There's a point being missed here - it's not the color of the drum pads, or the color of the guitar frets either, that matters - I agree, there could be no color on those, and it would make absolutely no difference. However, if the colors on the hardware are different, then they will also be different on screen - and I think that will make a difference. When you're looking at the notes on the screen, your brain is trying to process a lot of information really quickly, and through repetition it has for instance associated the color "green" with a muscle memory for the first fret. Now, it might not affect everybody, but I imagine that if you suddenly changed the meaning of "green", it would certainly affect at least some people - so, why take that risk, when there's no good reason to change the colors in the first place.

[IbanezBassist_v2]

There's a point being missed here - it's not the color of the drum pads, or the color of the guitar frets either, that matters - I agree, there could be no color on those, and it would make absolutely no difference. However, if the colors on the hardware are different, then they will also be different on screen - and I think that will make a difference. When you're looking at the notes on the screen, your brain is trying to process a lot of information really quickly, and through repetition it has for instance associated the color "green" with a muscle memory for the first fret. Now, it might not affect everybody, but I imagine that if you suddenly changed the meaning of "green", it would certainly affect at least some people - so, why take that risk, when there's no good reason to change the colors in the first place.

Remeber also that the game has not been released yet. There is still time or maybe already have been done, to change this.

[JB4GDI]

They aren't lined up the same color scheme left to right as the guitar

I think this may cause some confusion... anyone else think it might?

Like it's been said, the placement is more important to your brain than the color. I have absolutely no problems with Star Power passages in GH so I don't see how the different colors will make any difference, other than make you realize that you're not playing Guitar.

-Jaime

[MrtyMcfly]

I get what you're saying now PurpleHaze. I think after maybe just a couple songs of playing the drums, I think your brain will go into another mindset.

It may be in that "green" mindset when you have a guitar controller in your hand. But as it is, your mind will have to go into a new mode when you sit down at the drums. Considering also you now have to function with a foot pedal as well, making the interface of the drums completely different.

I think it should be easy to become comfortable with it after just a few songs.

[PurpleHaze]

I'll admit it's open to debate. It would be interesting to setup a test with the color order of the on-screen guitar notes changed - I think the results would be surprisingly varied, ie. it would have little to no affect on some people, but would really throw off others.

If it's too late in the manufacturing process to be changed, then fair enough, I'm sure everybody will cope - but if it's not, then I can't see any reason to keep them in a different order. I don't think anybody is suggesting a different order is actually a "good thing".

[IOIHUMMERIOI]

What happens if you are color blind?


:eek:

[Bobalicious93]

im just looking at it as a new challenge to learn and master (hopefully)

[-Xyfa-]

Theyve just really moved the green to the right hand side and the rest are in the same order

its goes RYBG, instead of GRYB (bass pedal is the orange)

it will be weird for the first 10 minutes but youll get used to it

[Ardius]

There's a point being missed here - it's not the color of the drum pads, or the color of the guitar frets either, that matters - I agree, there could be no color on those, and it would make absolutely no difference. However, if the colors on the hardware are different, then they will also be different on screen - and I think that will make a difference. When you're looking at the notes on the screen, your brain is trying to process a lot of information really quickly, and through repetition it has for instance associated the color "green" with a muscle memory for the first fret. Now, it might not affect everybody, but I imagine that if you suddenly changed the meaning of "green", it would certainly affect at least some people - so, why take that risk, when there's no good reason to change the colors in the first place.

No, I knew what you meant in the first place. I dont look at the colours on the screen. My arm remembers that a note on the far left is the far left of my guitar, etc etc. I dont need the colours. Just touch and feel. Obviously, if it was like 30 buttons, I would be associating certain colours....but because were talking about 5 buttons (4 for the drums) it doesnt make a lot of difference. Especially since the buttons/pads are so individual, its not like they are really close together or anything.
Plus, I have 4 fingers and 2 arms, so its not hard to remember where to move them in order to hit far left/far right etc etc.

Heres an experiment;
Try turning down the colours on your TV and play Guitar Hero and see if you can still do it. If so, then it shows it doesnt make a difference.

Anyway, in the end, doesnt it serve to make the game a bit harder anyway............which is a want for me seeing as GH is getting a bit boring. Mixing up the colours will help put me back to playing on easy and the joy of learning to play again......especially when you already can blitz through its a bit boring.

[Terranova]

I don't see them as colours, when playing Guitar hero i started out playing using colours and i just kept making mistakes trying to remember what colour was with what fret in relation to my finger placement which was just to much for me to process while learning the patterns, i then just thought of them as just frets and ignored the colour aspect it was just first fret second fret third ect and i found it much easier after that, i'll do the same with rock band both for Guitar and drums.

[MrtyMcfly]

Not to go off-topic. But as it is with most people going with the feel of the buttons, it was rumored that the "raised bar" on the yellow button was not going to be on the new Fenders.

Is this true?

Because I like it, it definitely helps. And those who say it hurts their finger obviously don't play enough :P Your fingers toughen up eventually.

[Jimmik]

When you drum, you don't even need to look at the drums. Drums don't have color in real life, I don't think it'll throw you off.

I'm actually surprised anyone even thought to be worried about this. It's easy peasy, just 1-2-3-4. Should be easy to keep track of :P

[PurpleHaze]

Still waiting for somebody to explain why a different color order is actually a "good thing" - if it's too late to be changed then fine, if it's not too late then why not change it to match the guitars.

[stinkdog2007]

Still waiting for somebody to explain why a different color order is actually a "good thing" - if it's too late to be changed then fine, if it's not too late then why not change it to match the guitars.

I think they want it to be different so you could tell the difference between each row of notes.

[Tendoza]

when I intitiate star power, I dont get all screwed up. So I assume that colours on the drums won't matter much to me...

[idiotec]

I'll be quick.

It doesn't matter.

[jmmartinprov1]

The colors being changed for the drums will not cause anybody a problem after a run through on easy IMHO, The pads are huge and if you can play the 5 frets on a guitar you should be fine, the toughest thing for non drummers is going to be adding the bass drum with there foot!! The timing will be the big issue if it isrealistic cymbal crashes and bass drum together on songs like tom sawyer where every down note that has a cymbal crash has a kick drum as well!! That will just take practice!!

But I think the changed the order because its in the middle of the screen so it does not screw up the guitar and bass !!

[WingsOfSteel]

I think it's better this way. People will be less likely to accidentally look at the wrong notechart.

[McDeezy]

I think it's better this way. People will be less likely to accidentally look at the wrong notechart.

I've said this many times. Its probably so you can distinguish between the three quicker.