Rock Band DLC Rant

[Hallowed]

It's come to my attention that one of the main reasons why I got this game was because of the full album DLC. It's already January going to February and not a word from this! To makes matters worse, I am starting to get a bit ticked off with the DLC that we are getting recently. If I wanted to play "The Number Of The Beast", I have Guitar Hero III for that. Why in the blue moon don't we have other Iron Maiden's songs? It is that every DLC for Rock Band has to be a "single" from a band? I would love to see "The Evil That Men Do (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KjzBf3mT6y4&feature=related)" Or Megadeth - Peace Sells!

I know this is a matter of preference for me in Iron Maiden, but really come on! Number of the beast was already in Guitar Hero III! Can't we have something like Infinite Dreams from them or Fear of the dark? >=/.

If you see that video on The Evil that Men do, that would be a great song to rock out as a band! Come on Harmonix, enough with the GHIII songs. Give us something out from your sleeves that's hot! surprise me like you did with GHII. It's like you guys aren't thinking anymore! Is that request a song thing even working? There should be like results or a poll or something so we can see what songs are available. There should be like a voting system, a tournament of songs every week and whichever win by vote count will go on for DLC. Like what gamefaqs has for their character battle! But with songs. I find it pretty lame that we have no control of what's on the DLC.

And to make matters worse, it's been a month already and I am pretty sure like others they have not received their Fender Guitar back. Seriously you guys are dropping the ball with this. I gave you my hard earned $179 for a damn reason. I am pretty sure others did as well. So please can you guys work on these things? Or are you guys going to do an Epic with Gears Of Wars and just brush us off and wait till "Rock Band II" to please us =/.

[whofan]

Translation: I'm not getting what I wanted. Wah!

Seriously dude, chillax! Full album's are on their way, we just don't know when yet. And unless you're in some kind of weird parallel dimension, we haven't even reached mid January yet. Learn some patience for crying out loud.

In response to your points about Iron Maiden. Not everybody who has RB has GHIII as well, and thus it's not a duplicate for many of us. Besides, RB's notecharts are 200x better than GHIII's. I'm personally glad this track was chosen, and I'm sure we'll see more somewhere along the line here.

It's patience that you need to learn and not to get hot and heavy so quickly.

If you haven't recieved your guitar yet CALL EA and find out what's going on, don't come on here and complain, it'll get you nowhere

[dfjdejulio]

Is that request a song thing even working?

You know, many of us are intentionally using it to request tracks from GH3, so we can burry our copies of GH3 in a New Mexico landfill.

Right now, the only reason I have to plug GH3 in is "Cliffs of Dover". If we ever get that in RB, I won't need GH3 at all anymore.

[Hallowed]

Translation: I'm not getting what I wanted. Wah!

I thought that was what Rock Band was all about. What made it so different from Guitar Hero! I am not hiding the fact that's what I wanted.


Seriously dude, chillax! Full album's are on their way, we just don't kno w when yet. And unless you're in some kind of weird parallel dimension, we haven't even reached mid January yet. Learn some patience for crying out loud.

Still waiting for those full albums. That **** came back out in Nov. And it's almost mid Jan and I bet it will become Feb and we wont' have jack! Patience hmm seeing how lately developers are and seeing the large trend of video games following the "milk you" for your money routine I tend to have little patience with game companies lately. And then again this is a forum :) I can speak my mind can't I?

It's not about patience it's about wanting to know if they gonna do this!


In response to your points about Iron Maiden. Not everybody who has RB has GHIII as well, and thus it's not a duplicate for many of us. Besides, RB's notecharts are 200x better than GHIII's. I'm personally glad this track was chosen, and I'm sure we'll see more somewhere along the line here.

Come on.. the percentage that doesn't have GHIII is very small. If you have Rock Band, I know you must have GHIII / rented it / played it. And I hope there's more along the line.



It's patience that you need to learn and not to get hot and heavy so quickly.

Again with this time of age, where video games are going as bad as mainstream music .. I tend to have little to zero patience when months start to pass by and their so called "full albums" are no where to be found, spoken off, or given to us an ETA.



If you haven't recieved your guitar yet CALL EA and find out what's going on, don't come on here and complain, it'll get you nowhere

Yes when they can pick up the phone :D! Sadly their customer service is far worse than Microsoft! Last time I stayed on hold for an hour :). Any more things to say about "patience"?


All I want is an answer. I am suprise neither of you commented on the voting system or the fact we can't see what / who / huh? of songs we requested! I am assuming you prefer the blind method of just requesting and hoping your song just gets miraculously picked!

[Superfro]

I thought that was what Rock Band was all about.

No. Rock Band is not all about you getting what you want. Sorry if you were confused.

The rest of the stuff going on here.......I'm just too tired. :rolleyes:

[shaneman150]

Really, it just sounds like YOU have had a bad experience with the replacement insturments.
I've had to replace my drumset, and things went very smoothly, and quick. No problems at all.

And about "repeat" tracks, in Guitar Hero, you only have (you guessed it) the guitar track to play. With the same song being in RB, you can play the whole song, which is a blast for me.

And about DLC, what game has EVER had DLC come on a weekly basis? Sure, the full albums haven't come out yet, but you know they are coming. And I'm sure programing a full album is going to take a lot more work than just a couple songs.

And one last thing, HMX is great. They actually pay attention to their fans, hence THIS forum. This is one of the best examples of a dev team that talks to it's fanbase.

[macteago]

Johnny is off his ritalin again... You seriously sound like a 2 year old...

Harmonix has been supplying consistent DLC every week... They should be commended for that, no other game I can think of has routinely got out new content every week after release like Harmonix has for RB. Look at GHIII... hello. Obviously getting out new song content is not as easy as making a thread request on the Ultimate Setlist Board.

Albums were never promised within the first couple of months after release...

There have been several issues such as peripheral durability and potential patch necessities that may be taking up time over packaging albums together.

I think of Rock Band as more of a system purchase than a single game purchase so expecting everything right when Rock Band was made availalbe is simply unrealistic.

[Hallowed]

No. Rock Band is not all about you getting what you want. Sorry if you were confused.

The rest of the stuff going on here.......I'm just too tired. :rolleyes:

Well if you were just too tired then there is a sign off button over there! No need to walk in here and just leave your crummy 2 cents :).

And let me rephrase what I meant. Last time I recall Rock Band was giving the impression that you could basically feel like playing like a band without the actual instruments, it was getting to the point that it was like we almost had an "itunes" for Rock Band! I mean there was a purpose for that tour around the country to show off the damn game? Wasn't it to get you to buy it? Obviously you bought it and some of the promised things have yet to happen.

If they went to the effort to show you all these crazy things why not go the extra step to let us know what the hell we are getting for the DLC? Or at least re assure to us to know what's going on. Then again it seems most of you like not to question authority. Whatever. It ain't the first time. Society just seems to conform with one thing and not push to strive for the better.

[ntguy]

Translation: I'm not getting what I wanted. Wah!

Seriously dude, chillax! Full album's are on their way, we just don't know when yet. And unless you're in some kind of weird parallel dimension, we haven't even reached mid January yet. Learn some patience for crying out loud.

In response to your points about Iron Maiden. Not everybody who has RB has GHIII as well, and thus it's not a duplicate for many of us. Besides, RB's notecharts are 200x better than GHIII's. I'm personally glad this track was chosen, and I'm sure we'll see more somewhere along the line here.

It's patience that you need to learn and not to get hot and heavy so quickly.

If you haven't recieved your guitar yet CALL EA and find out what's going on, don't come on here and complain, it'll get you nowhere

What we need is "Flight Of Icarus"!!! Imagine trying to hold that last note on vocals!!!!

[dfjdejulio]

Johnny is off his ritalin again... You seriously sound like a 2 year old...

Hey, I resent that. I actually take Ritalin, and I don't sound that bad when I go off it.


Albums were never promised within the first couple of months after release...

THIS BEARS REPEATING.

We were told full downloads were going to come. We were never told they were going to come before, say, October for example.

[shaneman150]

Then again it seems most of you like not to question authority. Whatever. It ain't the first time. Society just seems to conform with one thing and not push to strive for the better.

Haha, are you serious? That is hilarious. Bravo on the joke topic. You had me going there for a minute.

[Superfro]

Well if you were just too tired then there is a sign off button over there! No need to walk in here and just leave your crummy 2 cents :).

And let me rephrase what I meant. Last time I recall Rock Band was giving the impression that you could basically feel like playing like a band without the actual instruments, it was getting to the point that it was like we almost had an "itunes" for Rock Band! I mean there was a purpose for that tour around the country to show off the damn game? Wasn't it to get you to buy it? Obviously you bought it and some of the promised things have yet to happen.

If they went to the effort to show you all these crazy things why not go the extra step to let us know what the hell we are getting for the DLC? Or at least re assure to us to know what's going on. Then again it seems most of you like not to question authority. Whatever. It ain't the first time. Society just seems to conform with one thing and not push to strive for the better.

Full albums are still coming. DLC is coming out each and every week. If that's not enough information for you then maybe you're the one that should walk away and stop acting like a 3 year old. Most people aren't "questioning authority" because there is no reason to at this point in terms of DLC or full albums. No dates were ever set for DLC, and since release they've put out stuff every week. (Meeting their exact timeframe commitments in the process mind you.)

[FultonPub]

It's come to my attention that one of the main reasons why I got this game was because of the full album DLC. .

Huh? So you just now realized that you bought this game for the full album dlc? :rolleyes:

[DesiredFX]

First, there was never a date provided for the full album downloads--statements like "shortly after launch" came from video game magazines--and since the game hasn't even been out for TWO MONTHS, I'd say you need to cut 'em some slack on that score.

Second, you need to get straight with yourself that your favorite songs are probably never going to be in this game. My iPod has over 3000 songs on it. Rock Band is just now closing in on 100 songs available...and only about 20% of the songs are on my iPod.

It may be statistically possible that there is one John Q. Public out there who loves every song and will love every song that is released, but it's pretty doubtful. Harmonix is trying to give us songs that are fun to play within the game's structure--that has to come first. Popularity contests come second, if at all. And then, of course, the ability to license and produce the track comes into question.

[Hallowed]

Johnny is off his ritalin again... You seriously sound like a 2 year old...

Another one with the personal insults! Internet tough guy? Seems like let's just call this "I am in a crappy mood let's just insult people on threads online!" thread. Seriously. Before you run your mouth with any personal accusations think that I am actually trying to stay on topic here.



Harmonix has been supplying consistent DLC every week... They should be commended for that, no other game I can think of has routinely got out new content every week after release like Harmonix has for RB. Look at GHIII... hello. Obviously getting out new song content is not as easy as making a thread request on the Ultimate Setlist Board.

I have to commended them for steady supply? What? I pay them for this! Why should I commend them for something I am paying for!


Albums were never promised within the first couple of months after release... Well then why did all the video game sites hyped this up so much >.>. You'd be pisst if your precious "steady" stream of DLC wasn't happening at launch and that wasn't promised either. [/quote]



There have been several issues such as peripheral durability and potential patch necessities that may be taking up time over packaging albums together. I don't see what that has to do with technicians which are an isolated ware house messing with the guitars and the programmers outsourcing albums o_O. And that doesn't solve my and others situations.



I think of Rock Band as more of a system purchase than a single game purchase so expecting everything right when Rock Band was made availalbe is simply unrealistic.

Sounds like the Playstation 3 to me. But this is a game realistically speaking and not a system.

[Hallowed]

First, there was never a date provided for the full album downloads--statements like "shortly after launch" came from video game magazines--and since the game hasn't even been out for TWO MONTHS, I'd say you need to cut 'em some slack on that score.

Finally someone says something without any personal attacks.

Where did you get this statements "like 'shortly after launch' came from video game magazines--"

I want to see it.



Second, you need to get straight with yourself that your favorite songs are probably never going to be in this game. My iPod has over 3000 songs on it. Rock Band is just now closing in on 100 songs available...and only about 20% of the songs are on my iPod. It is a favorite song but I'd love to see that for a change instead of the same song I have in another game which was originally "engineered" by them. Yea you get to do it with the guitar / vocals and drums now but come on again? At the end of the day it's a "game" so why again?



...Harmonix is trying to give us songs that are fun to play within the game's structure--that has to come first. Popularity contests come second, if at all. And then, of course, the ability to license and produce the track comes into question. Well this song isn't a single and it's not even about popularity I just think all around "structure" wise this would be a much better song to play / sing / drums / guitar!

But why can't we have a voting system? Instead of a "blind" suggestion box?

[Sayburr]

If you have Rock Band, I know you must have GHIII / rented it / played it. And I hope there's more along the line.

Strangely enough, I have never played a music game before Rock Band. Never bought, rented, or played. I didn't think it looked very fun, but the drums looked like a blast. That is why I decided to give it a try. I find myself playing guitar more often than drums, however.

Anyway, back on topic. I am not really that frustrated with the releases so far. What I am hoping for is that they make a patch before the full album DLs come out that will allow you to play the album all the way through without having to choose each song between tracks.

[Hallowed]

Strangely enough, I have never played a music game before Rock Band. Never bought, rented, or played. I didn't think it looked very fun, but the drums looked like a blast. That is why I decided to give it a try. I find myself playing guitar more often than drums, however.

Anyway, back on topic. I am not really that frustrated with the releases so far. What I am hoping for is that they make a patch before the full album DLs come out that will allow you to play the album all the way through without having to choose each song between tracks.

Thats a neat idea hope it happens. I envy you, you get to experience the game in it's full glory :). Since this is basically your "first" instrument based game! Have fun ;).

[Sayburr]

Thats a neat idea hope it happens. I envy you, you get to experience the game in it's full glory :). Since this is basically your "first" instrument based game! Have fun ;).

My Wife, two of our friends, and myself were up until 4am playing. Just took a nap and went on into work (had to be there at 7:30). So, yeah, having a blast and find it hard to stop playing to go to bed once I get started.

[DesiredFX]

Where did you get this statements "like 'shortly after launch' came from video game magazines--"

I want to see it.

I'd suggest you search it out, then. What I found that caused me to make that statement was the actual press release from Harmonix about full-album DLC quoted in the middle of the article that was couched in text written by the magazine that included phrases like "shortly after launch."

I did the search once for my own benefit, and I recommend you do the same. You'd be surprised how many "facts" come from opinions that are misread or misconstrued.

Even so, the game's only been out seven weeks. We're still within what I would call the "shortly after launch" period for another month.

And a note on the favorite songs thing: I wasn't talking specifically about your Iron Maiden request. I was just making a general suggestion: few if any of your very favorite songs are going to end up in this game. That's just the way it is, and the sooner you accept it, the more you'll be able to appreciate what is in this game.

[capitalfn9]

is this kid really complaining about the dlc in a game that's had more of it so far than any other game out there? ridiculous.

[Hallowed]

I'd suggest you search it out, then. What I found that caused me to make that statement was the actual press release from Harmonix about full-album DLC quoted in the middle of the article that was couched in text written by the magazine that included phrases like "shortly after launch."

I did the search once for my own benefit, and I recommend you do the same. You'd be surprised how many "facts" come from opinions that are misread or misconstrued.

Even so, the game's only been out seven weeks. We're still within what I would call the "shortly after launch" period for another month.

And a note on the favorite songs thing: I wasn't talking specifically about your Iron Maiden request. I was just making a general suggestion: few if any of your very favorite songs are going to end up in this game. That's just the way it is, and the sooner you accept it, the more you'll be able to appreciate what is in this game.

I'll take you on your suggestion.

As for the favorite songs. I get you now. I still think though in terms of DLC there should be a voting system or some sort of lottery or what not of songs than just a fill in the "blank" box. It feels like I am writing a message to a deep void in outer space and hopefully the message will be received by someone.

[Angry_Games]

well...so far...I LOVE all the DLC. Not love all the songs themselves, just the fact that Harmonix has kept their promise of weekly DLC up to this point. I've purchased 16 of the songs so far, avoided the ones I don't really like too much.

I've got zero to complain about, other than there aren't enough bands with female singers, so my girlfriend is getting a little upset that she has to keep singing in her 'manvoice' hahaha.

As for full albums...who buys a full album anymore anyway? I supposed some of us do (like old Metallica, Pantera...those are full albums worthy of purchase!). I'm still looking forward to full album downloads, but I'd give that 10% priority compared to 90% priority given to just getting us 3 new songs per week as DLC!

keep up the great work Harmonix! You have pretty much buried GH3 and their lame attempt at keeping promises of having "the most DLC ever!".

[mkkiller]

i hate it when people complain you dont see me complaining about not getting any metal songs hell yeah i want killswitch and as i lay dying but im not crying about "omg this track was in guitar hero" oh well i have guitar hero every single one with every single piece of dlc that ever came out for it and i plan to still get every single of dlc no matter what it is expand you music and this game is by far better than any guitar hero ever made harmonix really went out on a huge limb with this game and obviously struck gold and im surprised theyre still releasing content at this point yeah i would love to know what it is ahead of time it really wouldnt bc im going to buy every DLC they come out with. And another thing even if they did release all the songs from GH 1 2 and 80s id still buy them just bc of vocals and drums so in reference to this thread Harmonix and Rock Band keep doing what your doing im impressed with this game and still will be months maybe even years to come keep up the awesome content ( and also get some Killswitch and As I Lay Dying in this game lol)

[Hallowed]

i hate it when people complain you dont see me complaining about not getting any metal songs hell yeah i want killswitch and as i lay dying but im not crying about "omg this track was in guitar hero" oh well i have guitar hero every single one with every single piece of dlc that ever came out for it and i plan to still get every single of dlc no matter what it is expand you music and this game is by far better than any guitar hero ever made harmonix really went out on a huge limb with this game and obviously struck gold and im surprised theyre still releasing content at this point yeah i would love to know what it is ahead of time it really wouldnt bc im going to buy every DLC they come out with. And another thing even if they did release all the songs from GH 1 2 and 80s id still buy them just bc of vocals and drums so in reference to this thread Harmonix and Rock Band keep doing what your doing im impressed with this game and still will be months maybe even years to come keep up the awesome content ( and also get some Killswitch and As I Lay Dying in this game lol)

You do realize you are complaining about the fact that I am complaining? And you also realize I came into an agreement with someone here already, right?

[DesiredFX]

As for full albums...who buys a full album anymore anyway?

I do. Most of my favorite bands seem to be about the album being a complete experience rather than producing a single track for radio play.

And Who's Next goes beyond being "a full album." It's wall to wall crunchy British goodness. Every track on it is magnificent.

[mkkiller]

no i didnt and i apologize for that rant but i needed to get it off my chest and this was the thread i was in at the moment:o

[Hallowed]

no i didnt and i apologize for that rant but i needed to get it off my chest and this was the thread i was in at the moment:o

Ah it's fine, we have our moments.

[mkkiller]

true so very true

[darknessmoon]

It is a favorite song but I'd love to see that for a change instead of the same song I have in another game which was originally "engineered" by them. Yea you get to do it with the guitar / vocals and drums now but come on again? At the end of the day it's a "game" so why again?

Keep in mind that Activision made GH3, not Harmonix, so, in essence, they are not repeating themselves nor are they "using the same song they engineered" simply because they didn't. However, I do understand your frustration, seeing how you own both games.



But why can't we have a voting system? Instead of a "blind" suggestion box

I kind of agree... I mean, I like the element of surprise n' all, but sometimes I don't... It's weird.

[sjb111]

I do. Most of my favorite bands seem to be about the album being a complete experience rather than producing a single track for radio play.

And Who's Next goes beyond being "a full album." It's wall to wall crunchy British goodness. Every track on it is magnificent.

Nothing says crunchy like some good ole soapbar pickups...mmmmm, crunch, crunch, crunch...

[SuperDull]

I think credit should be given where its due, and Harmonix has been nothing but wonderful to its consumers. They don't have to release anything every week.

As well as, not only being mentioned in countless other threads, not everyone can be made happy in any situation. Theres a simple solution to this......if you don't like it don't buy/download it.......!

Everyone has their tastes in everything, I'm sure Harmonix isnt sitting around going, "How can I p*ss so-and-so off today, I know we'll release songs that they don't want as DLC." Gimme a break.

[RockawayRob]

Albums were never promised within the first couple of months after release...


Actually they did. Here is the exact wording from the july 11, 2007 press release:


Who's Next will be the first album available for Rock Band owners to purchase soon after the game's release with new content planned every week following Rock Band's launch this Holiday.

[Hallowed]

Actually they did. Here is the exact wording from the july 11, 2007 press release:


Who's Next will be the first album available for Rock Band owners to purchase soon after the game's release with new content planned every week following Rock Band's launch this Holiday.

You saved me the ground work my friend FX was talking about. Damn but they do make a point they never "say" when but they promise is as much as the "weekly" DLC. The game came out on Nov 20th I think it was? I don't recall I know it was aruond that week. It has been a month and a couple of days already .. and "soon" was used very losely in that statement. I'll give it another month before I rant again. Matter of the fact is that it was promised as much as the weekly DLC and no word of it.

[Apples]

Something new and interesting has come out ever Tuesday since release. I think this concern will not hold a substantial amount of water until this fails to happen.

[Grey_Street]

I agree to a point, but they have kept up w/ giving us fresh songs quite regularly so I'm not too upset. I did interpret that quote to mean w/in a month of release, but the verbage is definatly open for various interpretations. It is frustrating though, know that Greatful Dead, Metallica, Nirvana and The Who albums are coming but no word when. It'd be nice to see at least a rough time table.

[SuperDull]

There has been enough DLC released that I like to keep me happy each week. Honestly I've never heard much of th Dead or The Who to anticipate their release as DLC. -ducks-
Yea I musta been sheltered, but that won't deter me from downloading any of their songs. The Metallica and Nirvana albums I'd love to play but there are a ton of other things I'd like to play too.

Only time will tell.....i spose.

[DesiredFX]

Actually they did. Here is the exact wording from the july 11, 2007 press release:


Who's Next will be the first album available for Rock Band owners to purchase soon after the game's release with new content planned every week following Rock Band's launch this Holiday.

Okay, my mistake, then. I went back to the article where I first saw the phrase "soon after" used (http://www.justpressplay.net/games/xbox360/rock-band/news/official-press-release-entire-whos-next-album-on-rock-band.html), and realized that I had misinterpreted the content.

I got the impression that the pieces in quotation marks were from the original press release and that the rest of it was window-dressing from the site itself. As it turns out, it is the actual press release from that date, verbatim.

I apologize for the confusion. There were some sites along the way that interpreted this press release to mean that the album would be available on launch day.

Of course, it brings us back to the point of when exactly "soon after" is, considering it's been out less than two months.

[MacGrad]

And Who's Next goes beyond being "a full album." It's wall to wall crunchy British goodness. Every track on it is magnificent.

However, it should be noted that the musical stylings of "The Who" are slightly more than mediocre when compared to the greatness that is "The Guess Who"... :cool:

"American Woman"... "No Sugar Tonight"... "No Time"... I mean, these songs put "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" to shame!

(runs and hides -- but in a brave, heroic manner)

[visualdeity]

However, it should be noted that the musical stylings of "The Who" are slightly more than mediocre when compared to the greatness that is "The Guess Who"... :cool:

"American Woman"... "No Sugar Tonight"... "No Time"... I mean, these songs put "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" to shame!

(runs and hides -- but in a brave, heroic manner)

o.O

I have nothing against The Guess Who, but nothing puts Won't Get Fooled Again to shame... nothing whatsoever.

[Mickey Buns]

However, it should be noted that the musical stylings of "The Who" are slightly more than mediocre when compared to the greatness that is "The Guess Who"... :cool:

"American Woman"... "No Sugar Tonight"... "No Time"... I mean, these songs put "Baba O'Riley" and "Won't Get Fooled Again" to shame!

(runs and hides -- but in a brave, heroic manner)


The Guess Who has some good songs, but they are just "Pop Rock"
The WHo is Rock... you can't compare

[Goldfoot]

It's come to your attention? You should have already known your reasons.

[DesiredFX]

However, it should be noted that the musical stylings of "The Who" are slightly more than mediocre when compared to the greatness that is "The Guess Who"... :cool:

The Guess Who had shining moments.

The Who had a shining career.