IGN: 200+ songs for 2008, some weeks will see > 3 songs

[Keebler]

http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/846/846387p1.html

A VERY satisfying interview!!

[Tragic_H3R0]

It's good to know that there are so many downloadable songs on the way. I don't like how at the end of the interview, when a possible sequel is mentioned, the writer says the current crop of dlc "may" carry over. I want to know for sure if/when a sequel comes out I'll be able to carry over my dlc.

[erickOnasis412]

awesome! thanks for posting the link!!

i love how they specifically mention Journey as well in the interview, that gives me hope that we will more than likely see a journey pack in 2008.. i read another interview too that said they were talking to Led Zeppelin as well

"a couple hundred" songs planned for 2008? wow, we may get even more than 200! :cool:

[Mathias83]

I would love the DLC to carry over, but artists might have it in the license contract that DLC is only for 1 game only, and that could create a problem.

[JackBNimble]

Very good read indeed...........thanks for the post.

[SKACMAN]

I am also pleased with that, I just wished they offered each weeks DLC as a pack... I spent $75CND on songs and still was unable to obtain all the DLC available. Although, no carry over on DLC to a sequel would be a travesty.

[Crownjo]

Not just DLC but I would love to have the entire RB soundtrack in RB2

[Samuel346]

I seriously think it is way to early to be talking about a rock band 2.

I don't even see how it could be justified.

[Seroth]

However, DeGooyer said he thought the free release of the Halo theme for GHIII was a great idea. And, in fact, he confirmed that Rock Band will expand to offer music content directly related to gaming.

OMG, YES. Portal song plz.

[m00p]

*Throws 200 dollars in the toilet*

[thetrout]

"Lost in the Supermarket" is my favorite Clash song ever. I *HEART* MTV.

[toyomatt84]

Well that is some awesome news! :)

[ThePaska]

What a promising interview.

Hundreds of songs.
Weeks of downloads that are more than just three songs.
Album downloads, with announced release dates.
Carrying over DLC to sequels.

It's all good sounding. I'm sure they wont disappoint. I cannot wait to see what other DLC albums are coming soon. And I cannot wait until we get into the months where we are seeing more than 3 songs a week!

[floridag8r]

Now for Microsoft / Sony to start making better Hard Drive options for us to store all these songs on.

[pulseMOD]

great read.. it's gonna take forever to scroll through 300+ songs :eek:


*Throws 200 dollars in the toilet*

*takes 200 dollars and runs*

[RavagerX]

great read.. it's gonna take forever to scroll through 300+ songs :eek:



*takes 200 dollars and runs*


Ewww...it came from the toilet!!! And since he obviously meant that he was going to be pissing $200 away.......

there's piss on it. Nasty!

Though that is the best possible way to piss away $200.

[Sayburr]

Great news! But, I have the old X-box with the 20 gig drive... That will not last very long. Guess I am going to have to start being very picky on what I download, goto make sure I don't waste space with songs I will not play.

[Amish Robot]

Great read, I was wondering just a couple days ago if HMX was going to release some stats on dlc. Looks like a large portion of my entertainment budget for the year is going to be consumed by one thing.

I hope that by the time we get to 200+ songs, we get the ability to create playlists to select songs from... otherwise it will get a little annoying scrolling down to find the one we want.

...Now if only xbox live would work, so I could d/l the Monkees song. Three days straight now, and I can't connect... :mad:

[zanzabez]

I guess its time for me to upgrade the drive in my PS3 as I will fill it up!

[Eman311]

Great news! But, I have the old X-box with the 20 gig drive... That will not last very long. Guess I am going to have to start being very picky on what I download, goto make sure I don't waste space with songs I will not play.
delete them and redownload them when you want to play them. To download 3 songs only takes like 5 minutes,tops.

[pulseMOD]

Ewww...it came from the toilet!!! And since he obviously meant that he was going to be pissing $200 away.......

there's piss on it. Nasty!

Though that is the best possible way to piss away $200.

hey $200 is $200. and i'm sure all the money in our wallets unless its straight off the press has touched worse :cool:

[JIrish780]

It's going to be a thing of beauty when the downloads really start to pour in, especially these other full albums they have coming down the pipeline. I can't wait.

[appleb]

200+ songs at $3CDN a pop... I hope they sell larger song packs at a discount over the 3-packs they have now.

[Rivermen]

Really good interview. I`m glad to see the DLC is selling well enough to justify the amount we`re getting. I was worried that the plans for DLC would be abandoned if the sales weren`t up to par. Also, hearing them name drop Tool makes me all giddy inside. But drumming a Tool song would be the most impossible thing ever. One of the only songs I can see them doing would be Sober.

Either way, this is great news. So keep buying DLC everybody.

[MF-PO'd]

Now for Microsoft / Sony to start making better Hard Drive options for us to store all these songs on.

Fortunately Sony already has that mechanism in place, in that they let you add in any size hard drive you wish.

[MowDownJoe]

However, DeGooyer said he thought the free release of the Halo theme for GHIII was a great idea. And, in fact, he confirmed that Rock Band will expand to offer music content directly related to gaming.
OMG, YES. Portal song plz.
I can't see "Still Alive" fitting. Now "Live and Learn" from Sonic Adventure 2... that's a big "hell, yes" there. Crazy vocals and guitar work, and the drums are pretty frantic.

[RavagerX]

Rock Band's competing product, Guitar Hero III, has done a horrible job of offering regular downloadable content.

After reading that I busted out laughing and I can't explain why.....

in my mind I pictured the ppl at activision and neversoft sitting at a round table while someone reads that line out loud, then everyone sits in silence and looks down at the floor in shame.

[HMXJohnlok]

Ewww...it came from the toilet!!! And since he obviously meant that he was going to be pissing $200 away.......

there's piss on it. Nasty!

Though that is the best possible way to piss away $200.

Oh my. :rolleyes:

[BigC43]

That is awesome. I really hope we'll keep seeing awesome songs added every week!
*Goes to get another points card*

[Ultrace]

I would love the DLC to carry over, but artists might have it in the license contract that DLC is only for 1 game only, and that could create a problem.
We also still don't know if it's physically possible to use DLC for more than one game. It's never been done before, so there might be a software issue relevant to one system or the other that prevents it from happening. And I imagine that if it couldn't be done on one system, they'd avoid it for the other... Or else create the ultimate coup for one side.

[Ultrace]

I can't see "Still Alive" fitting. Now "Live and Learn" from Sonic Adventure 2... that's a big "hell, yes" there. Crazy vocals and guitar work, and the drums are pretty frantic.
Still Alive can completely fit. It's a rock song--but very light rock. It certainly wouldn't be very high tier, but it would be oh so fun to play which is really what RB has been about from the beginning. One of those songs where people would probably fight to be the singer. :)

[rockinmindless]

"Lost in the Supermarket" is my favorite Clash song ever. I *HEART* MTV.

That is would deffinately be an awesome song for RB. I would love to see them do the whole London Calling album, that would be great.

[mkkiller]

WOW 200+ songs ima need a bigger hardrive and quickly so heres my question i hvae plenty of microsoft points but not so much gig room so if i go out and get the 120 gig how and can i transfer my profile over to the 120 gig from the 20 gig? please someone let me know

[IndyWest]

Yes if you purchase the 120 gig drive it comes with a cable to copy your data from the 20 gig to the 120 gig drive. Too bad MS over charges for the 120 gig drive. Come on MS release a 320 gig drive or drop the price of the 120 gig drive to $99.

[The Squeaky Wheel]

"Lost in the Supermarket" is my favorite Clash song ever. I *HEART* MTV.

Train in Vain would be wicked as well

[topperharley]

I want to know for sure if/when a sequel comes out I'll be able to carry over my dlc.

That would effectively make my decision about buying a sequel. If I have 50+ songs that I shelled out $100+ dollars for, and I can't play them on the sequel, then I won't buy the sequel.

HMX made some decisions with RB that frustrated a lot of people (no online BWT, no solo World Tour, no bass Solo Tour), but if they tell people they have to repurchase all of the DLC for a sequel, they may as well tar and feather themselves.

[Bullseye]

200 plus? wow!


<----lights cigar with 4000 MS point card

[SKACMAN]

200+ songs at $3CDN a pop... I hope they sell larger song packs at a discount over the 3-packs they have now.

Exactly, they need to package the weekly DLC as a pack, Canadian pricing is just insane. $600 plus dollars for 200 songs yikes...

[LethalParadox28]

as of right now, my Rockband files stand at 1 gig of space. 200 songs at 30MB average would be 6000MB or roughly 6 more gigs. I dunno what you guys keep stored on your hard drives but I'm sure theres a mass of it that can be deleted. Old games that you never play, themes you don't use anymore, all that kind of junk that can go by the wayside if you really want the songs and don't want to spend the money. I personally don't download every song thats put out so I would say the max for files right now is about 1.5 gigs.

Anyway, the big thing is that it'll cost 400 dollars if every song costs 160 points for US buyers. That obviously doesn't take into account pack discounts or anything like that.

All in all, I think a 20 gig harddrive should have plenty of space in the end and if you consider the price of the songs for the quality and amount of songs...its not a bad deal at all. I'd figure most people will end up spending about 250-300 dollars (downloading around 125-150 of the 200 songs)

[SinistarX]

We also still don't know if it's physically possible to use DLC for more than one game. It's never been done before, so there might be a software issue relevant to one system or the other that prevents it from happening.

We haven't seen it done on the 360, no. On the original Xbox, the DDR Ultramix team managed to release content for each version of Ultramix that was then readable in the latest release.

So, by the time you purchased Ultramix 4 and had bought all the prior DLC, you had 130+ songs available in the game.

There was a downside to this that also exists for Rock Band. The more DLC on the system, the longer it took for the game to actually start. The start delay in Ultramix 4 was nearly unbearable. You would load the game and walk away while it reads in all your downloads. Rock Band has the exact same problem. I've purchased every bit of DLC so far and it now takes a minute or two for it to read in my "extra content".

Now, imagine what that delay will be like after 200 more songs are added.

I really hope they find a way to optimize that process.

[MF-PO'd]

Exactly, they need to package the weekly DLC as a pack, Canadian pricing is just insane. $600 plus dollars for 200 songs yikes...

Indeed.

Harmonix needs to do this to throw us a bone. I realize Sony is setting the prices and Harmonix probably doesn't want to rock the boat with them and ask them what the hell they are doing with the prices, so a nice compromise is to offer more song packs. The packs really reduce the gouge factor because at $3 a song, you'd have to be either rich or careless with money to go buying a whole lot of them.

[lancerevomg]

We haven't seen it done on the 360, no. On the original Xbox, the DDR Ultramix team managed to release content for each version of Ultramix that was then readable in the latest release.

So, by the time you purchased Ultramix 4 and had bought all the prior DLC, you had 130+ songs available in the game.

There was a downside to this that also exists for Rock Band. The more DLC on the system, the longer it took for the game to actually start. The start delay in Ultramix 4 was nearly unbearable. You would load the game and walk away while it reads in all your downloads. Rock Band has the exact same problem. I've purchased every bit of DLC so far and it now takes a minute or two for it to read in my "extra content".

Now, imagine what that delay will be like after 200 more songs are added.

I really hope they find a way to optimize that process.

i highly expect that not having a long load time if any for the dlc songs of rockband will probably be a big feature of the rockband 2 that is set for release in the very far future according to what i have heard...they don't seem in any rush to release rockband 2 with all the dlc coming in which is a very good thing and they will be able to add lots of features and improvements to the 2nd version

[Otheradam]

Instead of a Rock Band 2, I'd rather them release redesigned instruments this Novemeber or something, specifically the drums. Well, only the drums. I think the guitar is fine. But the drums really needs better sensitivity on the outside pads, noise dampening and more bounce, plue the kick pedal obviously.

[MushroomBoy]

they've mentioned the dlc, so at the VERY least i think they're working on it, if that problem isn't solved in advance.

[face777]

I seriously think it is way to early to be talking about a rock band 2.

I don't even see how it could be justified.

Some of us still haven't got Rock Band 1 yet!

[adam9981]

I can't believe how nobody has mentioned how AWESOME it is that he said that they are working on getting some TOOL dlc! This would make my year.

Plus, even hearing that Pink Floyd and Led Zeppelin are being concentrated on is Freaking Amazing!!!

GO TOOL!!!!

[snwns26]

I still think the best way to make RB2 is with a patch. It would just be an overhaul of RB1 with new stuff so the DLC would still work. Patch in stuff that would warrant a sequel and some new songs and charge the price of a game for it. The only downside is that it would take a lot of HD space so it might have to be split up into modes, songs, outfits and faces, etc.

[SKACMAN]

Indeed.

Harmonix needs to do this to throw us a bone. I realize Sony is setting the prices and Harmonix probably doesn't want to rock the boat with them and ask them what the hell they are doing with the prices, so a nice compromise is to offer more song packs. The packs really reduce the gouge factor because at $3 a song, you'd have to be either rich or careless with money to go buying a whole lot of them.

Well I am not rich or am I poor, I do however enjoy this game a lot, and my friends are always over drinking and playing. We all have different tastes, it only makes sense to throw us a bone. You are right, it would be nice to see Harmonix discuss pricing with Sony, they would have a better chance than us normal joes.

[appleb]

Indeed.

Harmonix needs to do this to throw us a bone. I realize Sony is setting the prices and Harmonix probably doesn't want to rock the boat with them and ask them what the hell they are doing with the prices, so a nice compromise is to offer more song packs. The packs really reduce the gouge factor because at $3 a song, you'd have to be either rich or careless with money to go buying a whole lot of them.

I haven't bought any online content because the CDN pricing gouge factor is just too much. I'm not spending $600 on content when I know someone else is getting the exact same for $400 in equivalent money.

Sure, I can cherry pick the songs I buy, but then it's a matter of $60 instead of $40. Still too much.

[BloodClot]

Still Alive can completely fit. It's a rock song--but very light rock. It certainly wouldn't be very high tier, but it would be oh so fun to play which is really what RB has been about from the beginning. One of those songs where people would probably fight to be the singer. :)

It would be cool if they were in talks with Jonathan Coulton (he wrote Still Alive) about any of the things he also has done.

Yeah, a lot of the stuff he has done doesn't have a lot of "Wow, that would be fun to play on drums/guitar/bass" parts in them, but he has a lot of "fun" songs like Still Alive, Code Monkey, Creepy Doll. You can hear any of those songs on his website.

He doesn't own the song Still Alive as it was commissioned by Valve, so they own the rights to it.

JC's website is here: http://www.jonathancoulton.com

[Bu11ze1]

no mention of GnR :(

[BathTub]

I haven't bought any online content because the CDN pricing gouge factor is just too much. I'm not spending $600 on content when I know someone else is getting the exact same for $400 in equivalent money.

Sure, I can cherry pick the songs I buy, but then it's a matter of $60 instead of $40. Still too much.

Well I guess enough canadians are buying it at the over inflated costs otherwise Harmonix would adjust the prices. They are increasing the prices of the Christmas releases at the end of the month so it seems price adjustment ability isn't an issue.

[Deeznutzs27]

There has to be a Pearl Jam 3pack in there somewhere.. Please.

Great news and congrats to Hamonix for putting up the 2.5Million DL Songs number. Thats impressive.

Continue to take care of us and we will do the same.

[Julio_Strikes_Back]

no mention of GnR :(

GH3 exclusive.

[AVC808]

when i saw GH3 has journey dlc i thought to myself, "when is rock band gonna have something from journey." i think the mention of it in this interview pretty much locks that up. im not sure why everyone is surprised at the 200 song count. there's 52 weeks in a year so 52 x 3 = 156. add the albums we've been promised (an id assume a few more that havent been announced) and you have 200 songs easy. i am stoked to hear some weeks we'll see more than 3 songs.
i think the best part is hearing their commitment to the game. i suppose there could have been a chance we wouldnt have seen 200+ songs in 2008 had they chosen to abandon dlc and focus on a sequel this year.
looks like we are doing a good job of keeping them happy with the current sales of dlc!

[Quastor]

I still think the best way to make RB2 is with a patch. It would just be an overhaul of RB1 with new stuff so the DLC would still work. Patch in stuff that would warrant a sequel and some new songs and charge the price of a game for it. The only downside is that it would take a lot of HD space so it might have to be split up into modes, songs, outfits and faces, etc.

This, to me, sounds entire feasible, and entirely the right way to go.

I see it as something similar to what Oblivion did with Shivering Isles. You release a DLC patch to upgrade the graphics engine and add new features for a price. Then, also put retail disc with the game + updates for those who want to get into Rock Band for the first time and don't want to spend $250 to do it.

[Ceely4]

GH3 exclusive.

Not true. I wrote a letter to Harmonix, in November, asking if there was any problem with them being in the game considering Slash was the poster boy for Guitar Hero. I just recently received a response, and the representative didn’t directly answer my question, but he did say he would love to see GNR in the game and encouraged me to request their songs through the new request a song feature. So I’m guessing there is a chance.

[MF-PO'd]

Well I guess enough canadians are buying it at the over inflated costs otherwise Harmonix would adjust the prices. They are increasing the prices of the Christmas releases at the end of the month so it seems price adjustment ability isn't an issue.

This is partially untrue. Harmonix has no problem to adjust prices in the U.S. store by conveying a new MSRP to Sony/Microsoft, but according to hmxsean, they can't tell them how to price items in the non-U.S. stores. With that said, I'm sure there's no problem for Sony to adjust the prices. They'll have those $0.99 songs right up to $2.99 CDN in no time at the end of the month.

[sushi111]

OMG, YES. Portal song plz.

Yes!

I would love to sing that!

[Lizard_King]

this is good news knowing there will be this many songs available . Excited to about LZ ! However I still want some Doors or Cream or Hendrix dlc though!

[Lady Siara]

Two other IGN favorites may one day make their way onto Rock Band. DeGooyer agreed that both Tool and Journey would be excellent additions to the library and that "we're working on them."

I can only hope that Tool and Journey make it. If Tool gets in, I will be a very, very happy woman.

[toolfan62]

Oh.My.God.
Tool! please please please please pleeeease get some tool.

[undertow]

I can only hope that Tool and Journey make it. If Tool gets in, I will be a very, very happy woman.

I think I love you. Why, Oh Why, Oh Why, Oh Did I ever leave Ohio? :p


Tool for Rock Band!

[SKACMAN]

I'd gladly take some Tool and A Perfect Circle.

[admanimal]

I think the main reason that they don't want to commit on the DLC being compatible with RB2 is that it simply may not be technically possible or practical to make it work, in the same sense that Guitar Hero DLC couldn't "just work" in Rock Band because GH songs lack some of the data necessary to make them work completely in Rock Band (i.e. drums and vocals, etc.) Now it is possible that RB2 won't be such a dramatic change from RB1 and that the DLC can work, but I think at this early stage they want to leave the door open to make significant changes to the game that could effectively render RB1 DLC incompatible with RB2.

Besides, it's not like buying RB2 will suddenly make RB1 and all of its DLC stop working...

[Bu11ze1]

GH3 exclusive.


link? referring to GnR

[Coldplayer]

Awesome. Just awesome.

Rockband = Best Game Ever Created.

[xxpigxx]

Tool
Journey
Led Zeppelin
200+ songs

*drool*

My wife is so going to kick my ass for wasting so much money

lol

[Redebo]

We haven't seen it done on the 360, no. On the original Xbox, the DDR Ultramix team managed to release content for each version of Ultramix that was then readable in the latest release.

So, by the time you purchased Ultramix 4 and had bought all the prior DLC, you had 130+ songs available in the game.

There was a downside to this that also exists for Rock Band. The more DLC on the system, the longer it took for the game to actually start. The start delay in Ultramix 4 was nearly unbearable. You would load the game and walk away while it reads in all your downloads. Rock Band has the exact same problem. I've purchased every bit of DLC so far and it now takes a minute or two for it to read in my "extra content".

Now, imagine what that delay will be like after 200 more songs are added.

I really hope they find a way to optimize that process.

You've got a point about the load in times, but you know what else is crappy like this? iTunes. I've got 32,000 MP3's in my collection and it takes over a minute just to read the headers to put on the screen...

[BhindBluEyes430]

"One of the great things about experiencing this early success, is that it gives us a great deal of confidence to move forward and get some of those songs that will really satisfy super fans. The whole goal is to get the music that resonates with people. A song like [The Clash's] 'Lost in the Supermarket' in my mind doesn't get enough credit. "

All that means to me is more CLASH yay lost in the supermarket is a great song to. so what of ots not mainstream the clash Are "The Only band that matter" Exept the who of corse

[tombrady]

DeGooyer agreed that both Tool and Journey would be excellent additions to the library and that "we're working on them."



I got a chill when I read that :)

[toolfan62]

DeGooyer agreed that both Tool and Journey would be excellent additions to the library and that "we're working on them."



I got a chill when I read that :)

Seriously lol, i was overcome with joy.

[tombrady]

I mean even if they don't get into the game, I can say i <3 HMX for trying now...and I can blame Tool for it if they don't get in, though I had that feeling all along.

Either way, great to hear that they're working on it...we get new threads on the setlist forum every day for Tool...I love when developers actually know what their consumers want and actually act on it.

[toolfan62]

I mean even if they don't get into the game, I can say i <3 HMX for trying now...and I can blame Tool for it if they don't get in, though I had that feeling all along.

Either way, great to hear that they're working on it...we get new threads on the setlist forum every day for Tool...I love when developers actually know what their consumers want and actually act on it.

I always just figured tool would never sell out to a game. So i just always assumed they would never be in these games but like you said im glad they are trying.

[xxpigxx]

I always just figured tool would never sell out to a game. So i just always assumed they would never be in these games but like you said im glad they are trying.

Actually, Maynard, from what I heard, like the idea

[XMECUTIONER]

And this, my friends, is why I picked Rock Band as my choice for Game of the Year last year, because of the nearly unlimited content!

http://www.gameindustry.com/editorial/item.asp?id=352

[army_of_me]

I always just figured tool would never sell out to a game. So i just always assumed they would never be in these games but like you said im glad they are trying.
Dude, after GH2 came out, they said in an interview (I believe it was in EGM) Tool was interested in being in but they got back to HMX too late to make it in the game. So, unless they've changed their minds since then (and why would they?)...

(And Lost in the Supermarket... hell yeah!)

[capitalfn9]

i hope that at least 3 of these 200 songs are gnr

[jawboneradio]

It would be cool if they were in talks with Jonathan Coulton (he wrote Still Alive) about any of the things he also has done.

Yeah, a lot of the stuff he has done doesn't have a lot of "Wow, that would be fun to play on drums/guitar/bass" parts in them, but he has a lot of "fun" songs like Still Alive, Code Monkey, Creepy Doll. You can hear any of those songs on his website.

He doesn't own the song Still Alive as it was commissioned by Valve, so they own the rights to it.

JC's website is here: http://www.jonathancoulton.com

Hooray! More Coulton fans! :D

I'm a huge Coulton fan...I drew all of his Things A Week and do the art for his new songs. I also happen to know that JoCo was visiting Harmonix a few months ago...no official word though if Coulton music would be included as RB DLC, although they are pretty big Coulton fans from what I've heard. I would snap that up in a second, if it came out. :)

[REICHLEIN]

Tool
Journey
Led Zeppelin
200+ songs

*drool*

My wife is so going to kick my ass for wasting so much money

lol

That's one of the few advantages of being divorced. You don't have to worry about wifey's approval.

[pmpboarder]

Rock Band's competing product, Guitar Hero III, has done a horrible job of offering regular downloadable content.

After reading that I busted out laughing and I can't explain why.....

in my mind I pictured the ppl at activision and neversoft sitting at a round table while someone reads that line out loud, then everyone sits in silence and looks down at the floor in shame.

HAHAHA! I can see it, too. And it makes me happy. :D

EDIT: Also, I know you guys probably don't believe it, but I will buy every piece of DLC they throw at us. As you can see in my signature, I'm keeping up pretty well. :cool:

[mercuryshadow09]

May as well just sign my check over to Harmonix! \m/

[integral_taken]

Tool
Tool
Tool
Tool
Oh yes!

This is gonna be a good year..

[m00p]

in all seriousness tho HMX, im going to buy EVERY single song u have on the marketplace from now on =]. No fall out boy or green day n i will "piss" my money away.

[Dugrex]

Lost in the Supermarket and they are getting The Beatles. What more could you want. Thank you HMX. It is going to be a good year.

[actinanass]

Now for Microsoft / Sony to start making better Hard Drive options for us to store all these songs on.

...you know u can UPGRADE your hard drive on the ps3 right?

[toefer2]

as of right now, my Rockband files stand at 1 gig of space. 200 songs at 30MB average would be 6000MB or roughly 6 more gigs. I dunno what you guys keep stored on your hard drives but I'm sure theres a mass of it that can be deleted.

I was thinking the same thing. I have a 60gb PS3, with no worries about filling it up, but I still occasionally go through my game save folder and downloaded games folder and delete stuff that I know I haven't used in a while. I used to want to save lots of demos, but then I realized I never play them, so there's no point. Even if you have a smaller hard-drive, like a 20gb on the 360, I can't imagine why it would be so full. PS3 games are often built with the hard-drive in mind, so they install some files when you first play them, but since 360 games don't do that (as far as I know...maybe a few do, who knows) I don't know where all that space is being used.

Add to that that I doubt there are more than a few people who will buy all 200+ new songs, and suddenly hard-drive space, or lack thereof, shouldn't even be an issue.

As for the article, I noticed this:


DLC is equal in all respects to the songs that come on the original disc

Not to be a stickler, but DLC doesn't have the crowd singing along, so it's not completely the same. I know it's unlikely -- and probably impractical -- for them to do this, but its absence in DLC is certainly noticeable.

In any case, I'm glad to see that weekly downloads can be expected to continue throughout the entire year.

[dfjdejulio]

However, DeGooyer said he thought the free release of the Halo theme for GHIII was a great idea. And, in fact, he confirmed that Rock Band will expand to offer music content directly related to gaming.

Time to revive this thread (http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=14582)?

The Portal song is probably the one that got the most requests so far.

[Purist]

What's the big deal with playing DLC on a sequel? Just put in your old RB disc, sheesh.

[Atsumi]

Tool
Tool
Tool
Tool
Oh yes!

This is gonna be a good year..
Tool isn't actually announced.

They're just working on it. And that would be AMAZING!

[NX013]

I find it interesting they name dropped Pink Floyd, Beatles, Tool and Journey, especially since we've requestd them a lot on the setlist request forum. Unlike a certain other game, Harmonix is paying attentioon to the fans

PLEASE RELEASE THOESE BANDS DLC, I wanna feel Comfterbly Numb and schism Anyway you want it and we will all Come Together to the Stairway to heaven.



Ok I'll stop now

[admanimal]

I find it interesting they name dropped Pink Floyd, Beatles, Tool and Journey, especially since we've requestd them a lot on the setlist request forum. Unlike a certain other game, Harmonix is paying attentioon to the fans

PLEASE RELEASE THOESE BANDS DLC, I wanna feel Comfterbly Numb and schism Anyway you want it and we will all Come Together to the Stairway to heaven.



Ok I'll stop now

Don't get too ahead of yourself, it was the interviewer who mentioned those bands, not the MTV guy.

[SoKGiX]

Not true. I wrote a letter to Harmonix, in November, asking if there was any problem with them being in the game considering Slash was the poster boy for Guitar Hero. I just recently received a response, and the representative didn’t directly answer my question, but he did say he would love to see GNR in the game and encouraged me to request their songs through the new request a song feature. So I’m guessing there is a chance.

what/where is the request a song feature????

[espher]

what/where is the request a song feature????

Look down.

[SamStone]

The news of all this DLC is great, but there are a couple of potential problems coming in the future:

- Startup time, as mentioned above
- Song management. They are going to have to patch the user interface to make it easier to find songs. I don't want to scroll through 200 songs to find the one I want to play. Even the sorting feature they have now is only a marginal improvement. We'll need folders, or the ability to have 2 levels of drilldown (pick artist, then pick song), etc.

But here's the big one for me: The more DLC that comes out in this format, the more Harmonix's hands are going to be tied in coming up with new features for Rock Band. For example, if they come up with a new guitar that allows string bending simulation, or they add 2 cymbals to the drums, or they add more instruments, the current DLC may not support it. So they'll be faced with either having some way to upgrade everyone's DLC, or announce that Rock Band 3 doesn't work with the current catalog, or something like that.

The other thing that may happen is that as all the Rock Band players build huge libraries of DLC, it will kill innovation from other developers because Rock Band will have the customers 'locked in'. Basically, that the Microsoft Windows model - get everyone tied to your product, and you cut competitors off at the knees.

So we could wind up with a Rock Band that is stagnant in terms of features, and a market in which Rock Band has a monopoly and there are few competitors.

Hopefully, it won't all evolve this way, but it's something that worries me. I'm hoping that 10 years from now we'll have music games that make Rock Band look like pong, but that won't happen if innovation is stifled by the mass of DLC.

I'm sure there are workarounds for this - they could make Rock Band 2 backwards compatible with older DLC, in which case you get the legacy feature set, but 2.0 DLC would allow string bending, or extra instruments, or a 5th indicator for drums for a high-hat or crash cymbal, or whatever. Or maybe the format of Rock Band DLC already has the ability for such expansion built into it.

[SoKGiX]

Look down.

lol thanks

[espher]

lol thanks

It's what I'm here for. :)

[Ultrace]

What's the big deal with playing DLC on a sequel? Just put in your old RB disc, sheesh.
That mindset begs the question of why they would bother putting out a sequel. Surely not for new songs, since DLC covers that. Then it must be for new features, venues, outfits, etc. -- in which case, using the old songs with those new items works very well. It would be great to start a band in what RB2's version of BWT would be and immediately have 100-200+ songs available for random and made setlists... Not to mention if they somehow incorporate dynamic fixed setlists that adapt themselves to your downloaded content based on era, genre, etc.

[supersonic1414]

That mindset begs the question of why they would bother putting out a sequel. Surely not for new songs, since DLC covers that. Then it must be for new features, venues, outfits, etc. -- in which case, using the old songs with those new items works very well. It would be great to start a band in what RB2's version of BWT would be and immediately have 100-200+ songs available for random and made setlists... Not to mention if they somehow incorporate dynamic fixed setlists that adapt themselves to your downloaded content based on era, genre, etc.

That is the key, Ultrace.....Somehow they either need a patch for this version, or at least incorporate it into the sequel (and making the DLC compatible in the sequel ) so that BWT incorporates our DLC libraries into certain venues sets, and challenges.....It's cool to make a setlist, but they need to do something where we incorporate our libraries of DLC into the regular challenges on the tour, so we are not only playing 58 songs over and over....

[mercuryshadow09]

what/where is the request a song feature????

At the bottom of the page!

[SinistarX]

My wife is so going to kick my ass for wasting so much money

She'll end up doing what my wife did: set up a DLC allowance (http://www.disjunction.net/?p=498).

[FatWilma]

PINK................FLOYD...............YEEEEEESSS !!!

not gettin my hopes up just yet tho, cause if this actually does happen, i'm sure it would take months before we see it (points to exhibit A - The Who).

[jonzes]

Lost in the Supermarket and they are getting The Beatles. What more could you want. Thank you HMX. It is going to be a good year.

I agree with the positive vibe, this interview had a lot of good news, but saying they are 'working on' LZ, Beatles etc. does not mean we will ever get them. If the holders of the rights are too shortsighted to take the wheelbarrow of cash being offered for whatever reason the songs will not be in Rock Band.

Then there are the technical limitations or source tracks etc. etc...

If you want evidence go onto Itunes and look for Beatles songs you KNOW jobs has offered buttloads for them but still negotiations continue. Also, where has HMX ever stated 'Band X will never be in rock band ever, ever ever.'. I don't doubt that they want all the best music in the game or that they are negotiating for the rights but I do doubt that 'working on' = 100% you will get it.

The really good news is they are making mint off the DLC so far. That HAS to help their sales pitch to rights holders on the fence, as does the upswing in Itunes sales that goes along with being included in a music game.

[FultonPub]

I agree with the positive vibe, this interview had a lot of good news, but saying they are 'working on' LZ, Beatles etc. does not mean we will ever get them. If the holders of the rights are too shortsighted to take the wheelbarrow of cash being offered for whatever reason the songs will not be in Rock Band.

Then there are the technical limitations or source tracks etc. etc...

If you want evidence go onto Itunes and look for Beatles songs you KNOW jobs has offered buttloads for them but still negotiations continue. Also, where has HMX ever stated 'Band X will never be in rock band ever, ever ever.'. I don't doubt that they want all the best music in the game or that they are negotiating for the rights but I do doubt that 'working on' = 100% you will get it.

The really good news is they are making mint off the DLC so far. That HAS to help their sales pitch to rights holders on the fence, as does the upswing in Itunes sales that goes along with being included in a music game.

I think wheel barrow of cash might be a little bit of an exagerration.....

[williams22]

Does anyone think it will be possible for there to be a patch that expands BWT to include DLC more and make the BWT even larger? I know you can do the make a setlists but playing the same thing over and over accomplishes nothing. I want to progress in the game but get to play the new stuff at the same time.

[Brainp0wa]

All I can say is "Wow".

[toolfan62]

Does anyone think it will be possible for there to be a patch that expands BWT to include DLC more and make the BWT even larger? I know you can do the make a setlists but playing the same thing over and over accomplishes nothing. I want to progress in the game but get to play the new stuff at the same time.

..you already can.

[pmpboarder]

She'll end up doing what my wife did: set up a DLC allowance (http://www.disjunction.net/?p=498).

That's awesome! Your wife is a keeper! Which I'm sure you already knew, since you married her. :cool:

[pmpboarder]

I think wheel barrow of cash might be a little bit of an exagerration.....

Maybe not... :rolleyes:

http://www.dkimages.com/discover/previews/740/51217.JPG

http://www.brickshelf.com/gallery/mijasper/Things/wheelbarrow.jpg

[iamtheddrman]

@pmpboarder
ROFL!

[Joatmon]

If they don't make content playable in the next version, they should burn in hell... I have always thought that when the "new one" comes out that the "tracks" or "Maps" or "DLC" should be usable in the new one, it is just good common sense & would extend the game for me way beyond the initial purchase, & YES, I will buy the new one IF I can use what I already bought WITH it, not like the activision guitar issues.... I have guitars from previous versions of GH that I can't use etc... assinine..