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IhateShittyMetalcore
07-31-2007, 01:37 PM
because, seriously. nice cash and grab, guys. I spent 65 bucks on a game that shouldnt even be 40 bucks. thanks?

also, most of the covers are horrible, at least try when you're taking my money. thanks.

lithiumkc
07-31-2007, 01:48 PM
because, seriously. nice cash and grab, guys. I spent 65 bucks on a game that shouldnt even be 40 bucks. thanks?

also, most of the covers are horrible, at least try when you're taking my money. thanks.

Yeah i wasnt too happy with the cost either, but meh.

I wasn't unhappy with the covers though.

IhateShittyMetalcore
07-31-2007, 01:53 PM
I'm unhappy with them. alot of the covers are really poorly done.

either way, I spent way too much on a 30 dollar game, cool.

Saltines
07-31-2007, 01:54 PM
Definatly too expensive. But I dont own it, I play it at a friend of mines.

What I find funny about the covers though, everyone thought I Wanna Rock was a cover, but they just re-recorded it, and it sounds like hell.

IhateShittyMetalcore
07-31-2007, 02:01 PM
Dee Snyder cant sing, shocking stuff.

not really, though.

bounchfx
07-31-2007, 03:07 PM
Two words: Meh.

ConsoleCoWBoY
07-31-2007, 03:39 PM
because, seriously. nice cash and grab, guys. I spent 65 bucks on a game that shouldnt even be 40 bucks. thanks?

also, most of the covers are horrible, at least try when you're taking my money. thanks.

Really??? Where did you get it?... i got it online for $39.99.... :eek:

am i the only one who enjoyed the add-on?

no_direction_home
07-31-2007, 03:48 PM
i quite like it the covers aren't to bad and it has dio
little bit on the expensive side though

Brad_Lee
07-31-2007, 04:02 PM
I enjoyed it. I didn't buy it though. Played through it at Best Buy start to finish... five starred every song first time through except for Play With Me... took 3 tries for that one.

Wrath Child, Only A Lad, and the one song with a bazillion 3 note chords were my favorite.

GARahn
07-31-2007, 06:00 PM
Even as expensive as it was, I think that it's a great game. I mean, yeah, there are songs in it that are complete crap *cough*Only A Lad, We Got the Beat*cough* but I think this game had what GH2 didn't: fun solos. In GH the songs were fun/epic, but you couldn't even do the solos without having to strum/kill the entire solo. And GH2 had some solos, but not enough to appease my want for awesome solos. And GH80's was a breath of fresh air. Here's how I see Rocks the 80's: 1/3 of the songs - crap. 1/3 of the songs - good to listen to. 1/3 of the songs - fun as hell to play.

the_spike
07-31-2007, 07:09 PM
I got it for $50 and thought it was really fun. A bit pricey but worth it.

Jsnkr9216
08-01-2007, 12:43 AM
You spent $65? Rofl, owned. It was worth all $50 to me.


And 80's is the best Guitar Hero game out so far.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-01-2007, 01:27 AM
Yeah! Come on! It wasn't that bad people.

ThePaska
08-01-2007, 03:32 AM
I got it online for $50 and I got a free t-shirt. I really like it to, the more I play it, the more I love the songs. Some of the covers aren't as good as I would like, tbu the songs are awesome, I think the game was well worth it.

WingsOfSteel
08-01-2007, 04:27 AM
$40 at Best Buy. Worth every penny.

TylerSalak
08-01-2007, 04:56 AM
because, seriously. nice cash and grab, guys. I spent 65 bucks on a game that shouldnt even be 40 bucks. thanks?

also, most of the covers are horrible, at least try when you're taking my money. thanks.

some covers may not have been good but a cover isnt supposed to sound exactly like the orig. recording.

i thought the game was awsome but a bit pricy for 30 songs.
i spent 50 bucks on it a EB games.

Syko360
08-01-2007, 05:00 AM
I got it for $40 at Best Buy. While it does suck compared to Guitar Hero 2 It is a good game on it's own but not worth any more than $30. It's worth $40 if your 360 is broken like mine though. ;)

Xzyliac
08-01-2007, 05:25 AM
Again, mine was free. So no complaints here.

Had I paid for it (especially $65! Online scams I've seen don't even get that high!) I'd be...actually satisfied. Price is too high but as for quality you can't expect much from a mid-summer filler.

Like Beck said here it's half cash-in and half mediocore filler. Basically an expansion.

What'd you expect?

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 09:07 AM
I dont know why all the blind love fanboys on here surprise me. but yeah, you guys dont have to all be happy drone bots, you're allowed to question ****.

the game was priced at $59.99, with GST it came to $63.59, about 33 dollars and 59 cents more than its worth. sorry, but even 40 bucks for 30 songs is a rip off. the game is a total cash and grab.

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 09:11 AM
Had I paid for it (especially $65! Online scams I've seen don't even get that high!) I'd be...actually satisfied. Price is too high but as for quality you can't expect much from a mid-summer filler.

Like Beck said here it's half cash-in and half mediocore filler. Basically an expansion.

What'd you expect?

it wasnt an online scam, I'm Canadian.

if its an expansion it shouldnt be priced as highly as a full game, no question about it. in fact, I cant think of any PS2 games that are priced that highly anymore. so yeah, thanks for ripping off your customers, guys.

um...either an affordable filler game or something that at least had some sort of care put into it. the game is literally a lesser version of GHII. so basically, I expected to not get ripped off.

Apples
08-01-2007, 09:16 AM
I wasn't that thrilled on the first pass, don't care for 80's songs either, but some of the songs have definately grown on me. I think that the GH franchise has such high standards that expectations for the expansion were too high.


The only things that really irk me:

* "the warrior" - fading out at the end

* "what I like about you" - everything about it, always hated that song

* Setlist skewed on the easy side - I'd love to have seen all of tier 1 removed and then replaced with a "harder" tier after Play With Me.


All in all, I think it's a nice bite-sized snack until GH3 and RB come out. (because lordy knows if GH2 DLC is coming)

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 10:04 AM
no, expectations for the expansion werent too high. the price of the expansion was too high.

lithiumkc
08-01-2007, 10:26 AM
no, expectations for the expansion werent too high. the price of the expansion was too high.

It is true.. I gotta agree on that one. I didn't think it would be that great, i had low expectations actually for the songs but there were a lot of good surprises. The cost just pissed me off, 67 bucks for it was kind of unbelievable

bounchfx
08-01-2007, 10:31 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like to play for fun.

but when you don't really enjoy half the songs and they are more boring than the first teir on easy of GH1/2.. no thanks.. it isn't fun.

but that's for me.

I would hardly call it the best one so far, but it all comes down to personal taste/preference

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 10:33 AM
I already knew what songs were going to be in the game before I even played it. I assumed the game would be 40 dollars at the most and I was more than prepared to pay that much for it and walk away with a smile on my face. the only reason I spent so much on it is because I wanted new songs to play which the developers must have already known because they charged way too ****ing much for it knowing we'd all pay it. lame.

God of War II is about the same price and is way more worth your hard earned dollar.

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 10:35 AM
Don't get me wrong, I like to play for fun.

but when you don't really enjoy half the songs and they are more boring than the first teir on easy of GH1/2.. no thanks.. it isn't fun.

but that's for me.

I would hardly call it the best one so far, but it all comes down to personal taste/preference


man, good call about the song selection. half the songs are good and the other half are total **** songs that everyone on planet earth has forgotten about because they're terrible songs. the whole package feels forced, like it was spewed out as quickly as possible with no care or attention just to meet the summer demand.

benjamin
08-01-2007, 10:36 AM
no, expectations for the expansion werent too high. the price of the expansion was too high.

Why did you buy it then? Every song in game was known, videos of every song were up almost before release, the price was always known.

You screwed yourself.

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 10:43 AM
the price was always known, huh? bull****. when the press statement regarding expansions came out it claimed that there would be at least 5 expansions and they'd all be budget priced.

bounchfx
08-01-2007, 10:47 AM
the whole package feels forced, like it was spewed out as quickly as possible with no care or attention just to meet the summer demand.

that's exactly what it is. They didn't really put any effort in, and it blatantly shows. Let the game be buried and never heard of again, please.

Xzyliac
08-01-2007, 10:48 AM
no, expectations for the expansion werent too high. the price of the expansion was too high.

Agreed tenfold.

wwaballafoshosho
08-01-2007, 11:11 AM
i rented it at block buster and beat so yeah it was worth 8.76 and now the memory is on my memory card if the price ever drops and i decide to buy it

Eman311
08-01-2007, 11:14 AM
Unless that game comes out as DLC i won't go anywhere near it. unless of course i find a friend who lets me borrow it.

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 11:26 AM
thats what pisses me off the most out of it. I got a total of two, maybe three hours of play out of it. so I worked longer than I played just to cover the cost of it.

so yeah, thanks again, guys. that cock in my ass feels real nice, *******s.

Magnet
08-01-2007, 07:11 PM
thats what pisses me off the most out of it. I got a total of two, maybe three hours of play out of it. so I worked longer than I played just to cover the cost of it.

so yeah, thanks again, guys. that cock in my ass feels real nice, *******s.

That's it? Two or three hours? You didn't replay the songs much at all? You should have rented it then. Stupid decision to buy it.

And don't blame the developers for the price. They didn't set it. Scoot over to the official GH forums and complain to Activision and RedOctane about it since they're responsible for charging so much money.

You can talk about your distaste here, but if it's mostly with the pricing, then Harmonix can't really take any heat for it. I imagine some people over at HMX who worked on the game believed this would be a $30 or $40 game and only put that much effort into it. They would probably disagree with its final pricing.

IhateShittyMetalcore
08-01-2007, 11:06 PM
my understanding is that thats the last game that the Rock Band team worked on before moving on to Rock Band, so this is in fact the right place to say that the game was poorly done and over priced.

Jsnkr9216
08-01-2007, 11:47 PM
it wasnt an online scam, I'm Canadian.

if its an expansion it shouldnt be priced as highly as a full game, no question about it. in fact, I cant think of any PS2 games that are priced that highly anymore. so yeah, thanks for ripping off your customers, guys.

um...either an affordable filler game or something that at least had some sort of care put into it. the game is literally a lesser version of GHII. so basically, I expected to not get ripped off.

Oh, you're Canadian, no wonder you're *****ing and moaning.

Har, j/k. Unless you live in Quebec. Then i'm not joking.

And just because this is the best GH yet and we're sticking up for it because everything was stated before it came out (Price, Number of Songs, THE FACT IT WAS SAID A TIDE-OVER UNTIL GHIII AND WOULD ONLY HAVE 30 SONGS) You have no room to ***** about the price.

lithiumkc
08-02-2007, 12:20 AM
And just because this is the best GH yet and we're sticking up for it because everything was stated before it came out (Price, Number of Songs, THE FACT IT WAS SAID A TIDE-OVER UNTIL GHIII AND WOULD ONLY HAVE 30 SONGS) You have no room to ***** about the price.

No doubt.. They '****ed you in the ass" metalcore? Pretty sure it was YOUR wallet, and YOUR choice to buy it. You could have seen it and decided it was too expensive for 30 songs. Your fault if you didn't research it. I didn't like the price but I felt it was worth it for new songs and I'm happy with it because there are a lot of good songs there. As many on it that I play every time I put it in as GH2.

So please, you ****ed yourself in the ass, YOURE the consumer, nobodys forcing you to buy anything.

whofan
08-02-2007, 01:05 AM
The man speaks the truth. Everything about this game was revealed beforehand and thus you can not complain. You can use the old "But I didn't know what was on it!" or "I didn't know it'd cost this much!" or "I thought it was going to be good!" excuses, but in the end it's your fault, not the developers. You could have a) researched what was included (all songs have been announced for at least a month now and it was confirmed that there would be no bonus songs for some time). b) researched the cost to find the best deal. or c) Read the reviews released on release day (They would have enlightened you to the "problems" with the game such as replayability, lack of new look, etc.).

Myself, I'm absolutely loving this game and has gotten a tonne of play. I've actually got to take a day or two off to allow my hands to rest because I was playing it too much and my hand is not responding to some of my commands anymore.

lithiumkc
08-02-2007, 02:43 AM
I like a lot of the **** on it but theres some bad songs. Overall I'm happy with it. I knew the cost going in and i wasn't happy, but I bought it anyways. My choice, my money, my problem if I don't like it.

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 06:10 AM
my understanding is that thats the last game that the Rock Band team worked on before moving on to Rock Band, so this is in fact the right place to say that the game was poorly done and over priced.
Except it's not, you can't blame Harmonix for a price that they DID NOT place on the game. They created it, as someone else has said, possibly expecting a blatantly cheap game (considering it was repeatedly announced as just a small game with no bonus stuff, if they'd even assumed it was going to be a full game I bet they'd have at least put new sets in, or at the very least new encore stuff).

You want to complain about the game, then yeah, feel free to do so here, want to ***** about the price? Sod off over to Activision and e-mail them, as they put that price on there.

Personally, I love the game, I love ALL GH style games (I just love playing the GH guitar... I suck at any sort of real instrument, but love music, this game is the type of game that is made for me :D), but I'll admit, it was a blatant "this'll hold them until later in the year" title, but it doesn't seem like they even tried pretending it was something else.

The stated it was only 30 songs, they stated there was no bonus tracks, and you could easily have listened to those tracks on Youtube before buying the game. Meaning the final "guilty" party for you buying a game that "wasn't worth it" was yourself... if you didn't feel the game was worth that much, why buy it in the first place? If you couldn't be bothered to listen to the tracks prior to it, then tough.

I didn't know half the tracks prior to it, and bought it solely on the basis of the first tier really (I love Balls To The Wall, 18 & Life, Bang Your Head, I Ran & No One Like You (Yes, that's from the 2nd tier... no need to correct me :P)), but actually have preferred playing Radar Love & Just A Lad, as those two songs both stand out as the best by far on this game.

Phrank-E
08-02-2007, 09:24 AM
my understanding is that thats the last game that the Rock Band team worked on before moving on to Rock Band, so this is in fact the right place to say that the game was poorly done and over priced.

Do you even know what a publisher is? Know the difference between a publisher and a developer? Understand contractual obligations even though your company is being forced out?

Why are you *****ing here? You need to be at http://forum.guitarherogame.com/

THEY are responsible for GH80's price.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 09:33 AM
If you couldn't be bothered to listen to the tracks prior to it, then tough.

why is that a big arguement with you? I listen to heavy metal, I grew up in the 80's, I've already heard the tracks many times in my life. my issue with the tracks is that half of them suck, why would they put Syncronicity II in the game, thats one of the Police's absolute worst songs. why would they put the Go's Go's in the game at all, especially their most annoying and unappealing song. the entire packages quality is poor, sorry. the only two tracks that sound almost identical to their originals are Wrathchild and Caught in a Mosh, surprisingly. the dollar store Dio they got is an insult, whoever was jackassing their way around Sabastian Bach did a piss poor job. and thats only to name a handful of titles.

Phrank-E
08-02-2007, 09:35 AM
why is that a big arguement with you? I listen to heavy metal, I grew up in the 80's, I've already heard the tracks many times in my life. my issue with the tracks is that half of them suck, why would they put Syncronicity II in the game, thats one of the Police's absolute worst songs. why would they put the Go's Go's in the game at all, especially their most annoying and unappealing song. the entire packages quality is poor, sorry. the only two tracks that sound almost identical to their originals are Wrathchild and Caught in a Mosh, surprisingly. the dollar store Dio they got is an insult, whoever was jackassing their way around Sabastian Bach did a piss poor job. and thats only to name a handful of titles.

Dio is a master track isn't it? As in it IS Dio... not a cover?

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 09:39 AM
no, its a cover. listen to the original song and that will be evident right the **** away. unless it was re-recorded, but Dio's voice doesnt sound like crap, I know this because I just saw him with Sabbath a few months back and he sounded absolutely flawless.

Phrank-E
08-02-2007, 09:48 AM
no, its a cover. listen to the original song and that will be evident right the **** away. unless it was re-recorded, but Dio's voice doesnt sound like crap, I know this because I just saw him with Sabbath a few months back and he sounded absolutely flawless.

The video I just watched said "As Performed by Dio" If it was a cover then it woulda been "As Made Famous By" But if they used Master tracks it wouldn't necessarily sound identical to the finished and published piece anyway... A lot of monkeying around with the soundboard can happen.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 09:51 AM
just checked wiki, its a cover.

listen to any song with Dio on vocals and you'll be able to tell that that isnt Ronnie James Dio singing.

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 09:59 AM
So if you KNEW what the track listing was, and you KNEW you hated it... why did you bother buying the sodding game in the first place?

Sorry, if you're going to go and buy a game that revolves solely around music, and you dislike the majority of the tracks on it, and then complain about that exact thing, you deserved to waste your money.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 10:34 AM
I knew I hated it? thats news to me, Skid Row, Iron Maiden, anthrax, Dio and a few other artists in the game are all favourites of mine. bad choice on the Skid Row song, though.

so reading is a pretty tough thing for you? I said I dislike half the tracks, not the majority of the tracks. besides, my issue is with the price of the game.

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 10:43 AM
I've already heard the tracks many times in my life. my issue with the tracks is that half of them suck.

I do believe I read you correctly the first time.

You paid your "hard earned money" for a game you only liked, by your own admission, about 15 tracks from... congrats, you deserved to lose your cash on a game you don't like.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 10:55 AM
so 15 out of 30 is the majority? does that make sense to anyone else on planet earth?

yeah, I work hard for my money. I work a labour job in a shop that deals with metal fabrications. so yes, my money isnt just handed to me, I bust my ass for my paycheck. if thats a problem for you you could try doing my job for a day then tell me my money isnt hard earned...assuming you'd even last a day.

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 11:03 AM
Congrats, you do a tough job (in actuality, it sounds like a similar job my Dad used to do, I however played clever and earn a decent wage in a charity shop, and then referee for wrestling companies around the UK, mebbe not as "tough" of a job some would say, but a damned sight more fun!)

But the fact remains that you paid through the nose for a game with a vast chunk of songs you dislike... what logic did you use for that if you had heard ALL of the tracks, and disliked half then?

Face facts, if you knew of every song in the game, knew you disliked half of them, yet still bought the game... then who's to blame that half of the songs you dislike? You knew they were there, you knew it wasn't a full game. Stop blaming someone else 'cause you bought a game with a soundtrack you didn't like when the entire game is based around that soundtrack.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 11:10 AM
oh, well I prefer to actually work for my money. wont be doing that job forever, man. just until I can save enough to go to school for something better, or join a successful band (not really banking my life on that one, though).

my logic was that I needed new songs and I assumed that the game would be priced lower like what was promissed from the get go. the only reason I paid for it is because GH and GHII literally bore me now.

man, you're completely missing my point. the game is too expensive, no question. thats my main problem with the game, how can you deny it, its a ****ing fact.

in fact, heres an article directly from wiki:

"Guitar Hero Encore: Rocks the 80s has received less praise than the first two games in the series. GameSpot gave the game a 7.0/10 review, criticizing the amount of songs with regard to the game's price. The reviewer commented that "thirty songs for $50 is a lousy value any way you slice it" and the game "feels like a quick and dirty cash-in." The reviewer also commented that the soundtrack was "eclectic," but "solid."1UP.com gave the game a 7.5/10 review, echoing these sentiments.[ IGN scored the game 7.2/10,[22] criticizing the song selection and quality of the song covers.

Most critics agreed that the game's price point was high, considering the reduced soundtrack. As of July 28, 2007, Rocks the 80s has an average review score of 73/100 on Metacritic and 75% on Game Rankings"

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 11:16 AM
Actually... I never once denied that the game was an over-priced, blatant cash-in, with no work what-so-ever done to spicing the game up (Even the encore for The Blackout Bar was kept exactly the same... so we had a siren leading into I Wanna Rock... wtf?)

However it was an over-priced cash-in that I was willing to buy from the day it was announced (to the point I had already told the staff in the local store that I would pick up a copy, and could they reserve it for me).

my main complaint was that people are complaining about the price here, as though it's Harmonix's fault, all they're guilty of is making the game, and for all we know, they were told that it was only something to tide everyone over, and so assumed it would be a cheap "expansion" rather than being priced as a full blown game.

The only thing that miffed me was the GH2 was priced at £19.99 brand new over here... yet 80's was £29.99... we got half the songs, and paid an extra half of the price... ta muchly Activision!

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 11:28 AM
the only thing that I really got a kick out of was the alternate costumes for the characters, like Johnny Napalms rat tail and axel steels arena rocker look.

as for the game itself, its fun, just not worth the price. I'm not unhappy with the product, I just feel that it was ridiculously over priced which doesnt sit well with me.

lorddavid
08-02-2007, 11:33 AM
I'm used to everything being stupidly over-priced... I live in the UK after all, so we're taxed on everything... "here's your wages... but we've taken off tax, oh yes, when you bought that game, we're taxing you on it, you want to drive on the road... yup we'll be taxing that... and yes we do apologize but the petrol so you can actually use the roads you've been taxed for... is also taxed, oh sorry, you want to die and leave your family money... yes you're taxed there too"

So yeah... I'm used to over-pricing, I guess it wasn't so bad for me, as lately the Wii games have been coming out priced at £45 new (about $80-$90!), so £29.99 was a relative bargain in retrospect... but yeah, I still feel it was overpriced.

£19.99 would've been sufficient I think. However none of us know what they had to make back thanks to the cost of licensing the tracks to begin with... so there could've been another reason for the high price initially as well.

DokkenIsntRockin
08-02-2007, 11:48 AM
I'm used to everything being stupidly over-priced... I live in the UK after all, so we're taxed on everything... "here's your wages... but we've taken off tax, oh yes, when you bought that game, we're taxing you on it, you want to drive on the road... yup we'll be taxing that... and yes we do apologize but the petrol so you can actually use the roads you've been taxed for... is also taxed, oh sorry, you want to die and leave your family money... yes you're taxed there too"

I live in Canada, its the same thing here, man. we have to pay 6 percent "government sales tax" on everything here. so for every one dollar you spend you have to pay an extra six cents. but I live in the only province that doesnt have Provincial Sales Tax on top of the GST so it could be worse. some provinces pay the six percent with an added 14 percent tax for every dollar, so thats 20 cents for every dollar spent. and we also get taxes removed from our paychecks every two weeks. it isnt optional, alot of my money goes to **** like unemployment insurance so that unmotivated *******s can make money off of my work, yay.


So yeah... I'm used to over-pricing, I guess it wasn't so bad for me, as lately the Wii games have been coming out priced at £45 new (about $80-$90!), so £29.99 was a relative bargain in retrospect... but yeah, I still feel it was overpriced.

man, you got iy for cheap. its priced at 60 dollars here in Canada. not cool, some people in other provinces probably spent close to 80 bucks for it. ugh.


£19.99 would've been sufficient I think. However none of us know what they had to make back thanks to the cost of licensing the tracks to begin with... so there could've been another reason for the high price initially as well.

well, realistically the game would have sold exceptionally well with a 30 dollar price tag so the cost of royalties would have been easily covered. with the high price of the game I imagine sales would be lower and it would be more difficult to cover the royalty costs.

no_direction_home
08-02-2007, 04:55 PM
it wasnt an online scam, I'm Canadian.

if its an expansion it shouldnt be priced as highly as a full game, no question about it. in fact, I cant think of any PS2 games that are priced that highly anymore. so yeah, thanks for ripping off your customers, guys.

um...either an affordable filler game or something that at least had some sort of care put into it. the game is literally a lesser version of GHII. so basically, I expected to not get ripped off.

im Canadian and i only payed 55 at EB games