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ModernDayWarrior
08-12-2007, 08:34 AM
So if the game has to use the USB ports... how will it use the one in the back? If it's wired, we have a serious problem. Enlighten me. Please.

FunkaTrunk
08-12-2007, 08:36 AM
Wireless Guitars Baby!

ModernDayWarrior
08-12-2007, 08:37 AM
Wireless Guitars Baby!

Alright. But what about the mic? I'm pretty sure people said it plugs into the controller... but what controller is that? And so you're saying the drums will be wireless too?

Emo_Reaper
08-12-2007, 08:37 AM
Well,the USB plug,would plug into the USB Port.Like the 2 in front. And dooooont worry about there not being enough slots. The Mic goes into the controller.

WildWalker
08-12-2007, 08:56 AM
It was mooted on here that the wired peripherals may plug in to the drum set (so the drum set acts as a hub)

Now if the rhumours are correct, and the xb360 guitars are wired, then HMX will have to provide some way to plug 4 wired peripherals in to 3 usb ports. One way would be to plug the mic in to the 'wireless' controller, assuming you have one of course.

WW

karlkaza
08-12-2007, 09:09 AM
I dont really care if the guitars are wireless or not
If they are GREAT! If not OH WELL!
I wont be play the whole coop band thing that much anyways
Just online.

TheRocker
08-12-2007, 10:05 AM
Okay listen , The Microphone Connects to Your X360 Wireless Controller , and the Drum , Guitar And Bass Go in The 3 USB Ports The 2 In The Front and 1 In The Back

Akaymay
08-12-2007, 10:06 AM
Okay listen , The Microphone Connects to Your X360 Wireless Controller , and the Drum , Guitar And Bass Go in The 3 USB Ports The 2 In The Front and 1 In The Back

I seriously don't understand why no one understands that at this point...

TheRocker
08-12-2007, 10:09 AM
I seriously don't understand why no one understands that at this point...

I know.. ..and I dont even own a 360

Bakkster_Man
08-12-2007, 10:13 AM
Does nobody else understand USB? You add routers and you can plug up to 127 USB devices into your XBox (or anything else with USB for that matter). Problem solved.

gh2masterwellalmost
08-12-2007, 10:18 AM
Any of you play Singstar? You could plug two mics into one usb router.

I'm betting that 2 guitars and a drum goes into one usb router, then the mic goes into a controller, which is either wireless or goes into the other frontal USB.

I promise, it will only use the front 2 USB if its NOT wireless. But i want it to be wired - i cbb with batteries, or "play and charge kits"

JakeFatal
08-12-2007, 10:24 AM
well im buying guitar hero 3 which comes with a wireless guitar so that takes away one usb port. im using my guitar her 2 controller for bass so thats 1 used. and im assuming drums will use one so thats 2 used up. and the mic plugs into the controller so that leaves one left so my problem is solved its not that hard to figure out

TheRocker
08-12-2007, 10:24 AM
Here

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Miroku227/360.jpg

Akaymay
08-12-2007, 10:28 AM
This thread should be closed. The question has been answered multiple times!

The Mic Plugs into the 360 Controller!

Thus, having only 3 USB cables to plug in, the Drums, Bass, and Guitar.

Problem Solved!

lorddavid
08-12-2007, 10:30 AM
Guys... seriously... stop attempting to explain... it's the idiots holding the fabric of space and time together... if you give them information... we're liable to... *Explodes*

sushi111
08-12-2007, 10:49 AM
My controller is wired.

What shall I do?

Ill probably buy a usb thingamajag.

gh2masterwellalmost
08-12-2007, 10:55 AM
Here

http://i42.photobucket.com/albums/e315/Miroku227/360.jpg

NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

It will be: USB EXPANSION PORT WITH 3 HOLES, GUITAR 1, GUITAR 2, DRUMS

MIC GOES INTO CONTROLLER. CONTROLLER CAN BE EITHER WIRED OR WIRELESS.

I PROMISE, COS THEY WILL NOT USE ALL 3 USBS UP AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT OPEN TO PEOPLE WITH WIRED...

phew.. good to get that off my chest, btw, couldnt be bothered to play around with paint...

lorddavid
08-12-2007, 10:59 AM
NONONONONONONONONONONONONO

It will be: USB EXPANSION PORT WITH 3 HOLES, GUITAR 1, GUITAR 2, DRUMS

MIC GOES INTO CONTROLLER. CONTROLLER CAN BE EITHER WIRED OR WIRELESS.

I PROMISE, COS THEY WILL NOT USE ALL 3 USBS UP AND THEY HAVE TO KEEP IT OPEN TO PEOPLE WITH WIRED...

phew.. good to get that off my chest, btw, couldnt be bothered to play around with paint...
Correction. BOTH are right.

If you have a wireless controller, you don't need the USB hub, if the controller is wired, you'll need the hub.

It's common sense.

OliverTwisted
08-12-2007, 11:46 AM
My controller is wired.

What shall I do?

Ill probably buy a usb thingamajag.

If the only controller you own is wired that means you bought the Core, thus you deserve no sympathy. That package is a blight on gaming and a huge f'up from MS. That also means you have no hard drive so no DLC for you.

Maherj
08-12-2007, 12:02 PM
...no DLC for you.

NEXT!

http://img.search.com/thumb/e/e5/Sein_soup_nazi.jpg/250px-Sein_soup_nazi.jpg

MotleyPriest111
08-12-2007, 12:06 PM
I have the Premium, two Wired, two Wireless, and two Guitars. I bought wired for PC gaming, though.

Anyway.... If you don't have enough slots, look at your two friends and say "This console aint big enough for the three of us." And drop kick him in the face. Problem solved.

IdentityFraud
08-12-2007, 12:19 PM
Ok, so lets say people have a wireless adapter hooked up already, or the camera? Also, why aren't the guitars wireless? That'd free up alot more space.

_GABO_
08-12-2007, 12:21 PM
I know.. ..and I dont even own a 360
Same..well, yet. But I still get this. Some people just don't understand simple concepts...

gh2masterwellalmost
08-12-2007, 09:19 PM
If the only controller you own is wired that means you bought the Core, thus you deserve no sympathy. That package is a blight on gaming and a huge f'up from MS. That also means you have no hard drive so no DLC for you.

well actually I got a core back in XMAS 05 because they didnt have any premiums, but I bought a hard drive.

Anyway, I promise, it doesn't matter whether you own core or not, the ONLY way you can play the game with multiple instruments is with the USB router.

Kaboobi
08-12-2007, 11:09 PM
If you're spending the money to buy the full set, buying a $2 USB hub won't break the bank, trust me. USB can support up to 127 devices at once, a $2 USB hub will give you the 2-4 ports you need.

gh2masterwellalmost
08-13-2007, 02:02 AM
If you're spending the money to buy the full set, buying a $2 USB hub won't break the bank, trust me. USB can support up to 127 devices at once, a $2 USB hub will give you the 2-4 ports you need.

1) Router will come with the game and all versions (except game on it own)Promise.

2) The USB Router would have to be designed so it'd work with a 360... I've never tried having like 4 iPods plugged in at one USB on the 360 - though i'd like someone to look into that.

3) The back USB will NOT be used, because of the wireless connecter. Thats why they will include a USB router me thinks.

monoxidehektik
08-13-2007, 02:44 AM
This thread should be closed. The question has been answered multiple times!

The Mic Plugs into the 360 Controller!

Thus, having only 3 USB cables to plug in, the Drums, Bass, and Guitar.

Problem Solved!

So let's just say i'm using a usb mic...how does that work?

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 02:49 AM
1) Router will come with the game and all versions (except game on it own)Promise.

2) The USB Router would have to be designed so it'd work with a 360... I've never tried having like 4 iPods plugged in at one USB on the 360 - though i'd like someone to look into that.

3) The back USB will NOT be used, because of the wireless connecter. Thats why they will include a USB router me thinks.

1) Not so sure about that one, but I'd like to see it built into the drums.

2) No. The U in USB is UNIVERSAL, so any USB router must work. Otherwise, the ports wouldn't be USB. "Designed to work for the 360" is just a way to milk people for extra money.

3) Back works just as well as anything else, as long as it isn't otherwise occupied. I'm not putting it on wireless...

Eman311
08-13-2007, 03:36 AM
Okay listen , The Microphone Connects to Your X360 Wireless Controller , and the Drum , Guitar And Bass Go in The 3 USB Ports The 2 In The Front and 1 In The Back

not everyone has a wireless controller (even though it came with the system)

Eman311
08-13-2007, 03:38 AM
1) Not so sure about that one, but I'd like to see it built into the drums.

2) No. The U in USB is UNIVERSAL, so any USB router must work. Otherwise, the ports wouldn't be USB. "Designed to work for the 360" is just a way to milk people for extra money.

3) Back works just as well as anything else, as long as it isn't otherwise occupied. I'm not putting it on wireless...

some people use the wireless 360 adapter, eliminating the use of that port if they wanted to have online and have multiple people. it's a valid issue.

The drums will act as the hub, my guess

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 03:48 AM
some people use the wireless 360 adapter, eliminating the use of that port if they wanted to have online and have multiple people. it's a valid issue.

I know, that's why I said "as long as it isn't otherwise occupied" ;)

Doesn't change the fact that it can all be fixed by having a USB hub, and if you really wanted you could (in theory) plug in 127 instruments to your 360.

TheRocker
08-13-2007, 03:52 AM
I know, that's why I said "as long as it isn't otherwise occupied" ;)

Doesn't change the fact that it can all be fixed by having a USB hub, and if you really wanted you could (in theory) plug in 127 instruments to your 360.

Damn.. Why cant just Microsoft just Help HMX out with their Wireless Tech

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 03:57 AM
Damn.. Why cant just Microsoft just Help HMX out with their Wireless Tech

Excellent question. Of course, we still haven't had an announcement that we're not going wireless. Not that I see any benefit to wireless.

TheRocker
08-13-2007, 04:00 AM
Not that I see any benefit to wireless.

I Know , but most people demand wireless these days.

Eman311
08-13-2007, 04:22 AM
I HATE wireless on my 360 at home. My connection at school destroys it, can't wait to go back to college in two weeks.

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 04:51 AM
I Know , but most people demand wireless these days.

Regardless, the lack of 360 wireless is still a rumor. And (back on topic) you can still plug in all the peripherals if there is no wireless.

AVC808
08-13-2007, 05:32 AM
i dont have a 360, just a ps3, but from what i can gather i think it's understandable for people to ask the question because i believe the core system comes with a wired controller. for those that have that only, they wouldnt have enough ports, and it seems like an unfair extra cost if they have to go out and get a wireless controller or a hub to play the game as it was meant to be played. obviously it would make the most sense if the hub was built into the drums, since the drums will be stationary.

MotleyPriest111
08-13-2007, 05:59 AM
Well if they can only afford the Core, do you really expect them to have any friends to fill up those ports?

AVC808
08-13-2007, 06:05 AM
Well if they can only afford the Core, do you really expect them to have any friends to fill up those ports?

that seems like a pretty ignorant statement. then again, im not a 360 owner so i really dont know if that's the general consensus. doesnt make much sense to me why they would sell a core system though. so are all core owners limited to single player?

MotleyPriest111
08-13-2007, 06:08 AM
Think of the Core as that 20 Gig PlayStation 3. The Premium is the $500 (And discontiued) 60 Gig PS3. The Elite is that new 80 Gig model.

gh2masterwellalmost
08-13-2007, 06:10 AM
Well if they can only afford the Core, do you really expect them to have any friends to fill up those ports?

thick, thick people

I have a core cos I wanted a 360 from the off, didnt preorder (nice move) and bought a HD with it.

and for the last time... THE USB ROUTER IS GONNA COME WITH IT!

joetaylor
08-13-2007, 06:17 AM
Well if they can only afford the Core, do you really expect them to have any friends to fill up those ports?

Im really trying not to get pissed off with you. I saved for 6 months for my Core, i couldnt afford the premium. I have alot of friends, probably more than you judging by your stupidity. So if you dont mind, shut it

AVC808
08-13-2007, 06:18 AM
Think of the Core as that 20 Gig PlayStation 3. The Premium is the $500 (And discontiued) 60 Gig PS3. The Elite is that new 80 Gig model.

ok well if the core is the equivalent of a 20g ps3, i still wouldnt assume people that bought the 20gig ps3 have no friends to play RB with. that makes absolutely no sense to me. some people like to buy the base model and upgrade it on their own.

MotleyPriest111
08-13-2007, 06:20 AM
Im really trying not to get pissed off with you. I saved for 6 months for my Core, i couldnt afford the premium. I have alot of friends, probably more than you judging by your stupidity. So if you dont mind, shut it

Dude, it's a joke. Alright? Calm down.

I was saying it like a reference to cheap dates that do the bare minimum. Take it easy. I didn't expect anyone to take offence. I'm sorry about that.



ok well if the core is the equivalent of a 20g ps3, i still wouldnt assume people that bought the 20gig ps3 have no friends to play RB with. that makes absolutely no sense to me. some people like to buy the base model and upgrade it on their own.

I was comparing it as the cheaper models have the basic essentials. The next model is upgraded and more common. Then the newest model for each system only has a bigger hard drive added.

joetaylor
08-13-2007, 06:23 AM
Dude, it's a joke. Alright? Calm down.

I was saying it like a reference to cheap dates that do the bare minimum. Take it easy. I didn't expect anyone to take offence. I'm sorry about that.

No, my fault sorry. All these people going "ZOMG, EVERY 360 HAS WIRELESS CONTROLLOR" are really ignorant people that i want to hit. Some people CANT AFFORD the Premium or, spend another £30 on a wireless controller, which i honestly dont need. You really sit THAT far away from your 360 that the wire doesnt reach?

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 06:36 AM
I didn't expect anyone to take offence. I'm sorry about that.


No, my fault sorry.

It's a first for the internets! People apologizing to each other to avert a flame war! ;)

Tmidiman
08-13-2007, 06:45 AM
No, my fault sorry. All these people going "ZOMG, EVERY 360 HAS WIRELESS CONTROLLOR" are really ignorant people that i want to hit. Some people CANT AFFORD the Premium or, spend another £30 on a wireless controller, which i honestly dont need. You really sit THAT far away from your 360 that the wire doesnt reach?

Joe you are just plain rude.

The customer knows what they want and can freely ask for what they want. If we want wireless we want it and if you don't, fine. There is no reason to react like a child just because someone wants something different than you do.


Finally, if I'm going to spend $199 or more for something I as a customer I can ask for whatever I want.

Kang_Zircon
08-13-2007, 06:46 AM
This is sort of related... About the using a hub/drums as a hub thing: Would a hub provide enough power to support two or more devices? I have a keyboard on my PC with two usb ports, but with the mouse plugged in one slot, there isn't enough power for a flash drive.

Prescott523
08-13-2007, 06:57 AM
I have a wireless router that plugs into my USB in the back. Does no one understand that?

joetaylor
08-13-2007, 06:57 AM
Joe you are just plain rude.

The customer knows what they want and can freely ask for what they want. If we want wireless we want it and if you don't, fine. There is no reason to react like a child just because someone wants something different than you do.


Finally, if I'm going to spend $199 or more for something I as a customer I can ask for whatever I want.

I didnt mean that you cant have wireless at all. I dont want/need wireless at all, i feel comfortable with wired, if you want wireless, fine by me, go do it. I was ranting at the people that assume that every single 360 owner has a wireless controller and if they dont that there in someway inferior. Sorry if it came across to you that way.

Electric_Zen
08-13-2007, 07:00 AM
The Mic Plugs into the 360 Controller!

This has been repeated ad nauseum, but is purely based on what a couple of people thought they saw on the Gamespot video.

Nobody at Harmonix has confirmed this, and at least one Harmonix employee has implied that this is not going to be the case for the final release.

Prescott523
08-13-2007, 07:11 AM
Sean has said it over 5,000 times, nothing has been confirmed yet. But I'm sure that to play a game as user-friendly as Rock Band is looking to turn out, it seems as if they will manage something for you wireless and non-wireless users, so everyone's happy. End of story.

ThePaska
08-13-2007, 07:17 AM
This has been repeated ad nauseum, but is purely based on what a couple of people thought they saw on the Gamespot video.

Nobody at Harmonix has confirmed this, and at least one Harmonix employee has implied that this is not going to be the case for the final release.

It actually has been confirmed in a two interviews, one I don't remember, the other is the post E3 interview on IGN, they state that not only will the headset be able to be used if you don't want to buy the mic, but also the mic will be plugged into the controller. This is especially helpful since there are no controls on the mic itself, so the singer needs the controller to select songs and their character and the venue and whatever else.

Rock Band Post-E3 Interview (http://xbox360.ign.com/articles/810/810634p1.html)
"IGN: Is there any way to put controls (like a D-Pad) on the mic or will we have to use a controller when the mic's the only instrument plugged in?
LoPiccolo: You'll need to use a controller to navigate when using the mic.

IGN: Since you can use a headset for the mic, is it possible to do duets or have background vocals? And is there any specific functionality for this in the game?

LoPiccolo: We don't have any support for background vocals in Rock Band. We have certainly discussed it, and would love to return to it in the future, but we had to draw the line somewhere. You are, however, free to sing along. =)"

Tmidiman
08-13-2007, 07:30 AM
No problem Joe.

I hope MS is paying attention to what customers want and give hamonix what they need to deliver it.

And yes, I am in Sales.

Electric_Zen
08-13-2007, 08:36 AM
We'll find out soon enough, but I would make some quick points on the helpful quotes you cited.



"IGN: Is there any way to put controls (like a D-Pad) on the mic or will we have to use a controller when the mic's the only instrument plugged in?
LoPiccolo: You'll need to use a controller to navigate when using the mic.
This quote does not say anything about whether the mic will actually be plugged into the controller that is used for navigation.



IGN: Since you can use a headset for the mic, is it possible to do duets or have background vocals? And is there any specific functionality for this in the game?

LoPiccolo: We don't have any support for background vocals in Rock Band.

There is no explicit reference to the Xbox 360 headset here. Since Harmonix programmers have stated in the past that fidelity on the Xbox 360 headset is too low to support vocals, I am guessing that they are referring to standard USB headset mics here.

ThePaska
08-13-2007, 09:00 AM
Ok but if the mic doesn't plug into the controller, where will it plug into? USB? And then how will you use a controller with it? Is the Xbox capable of having a Mic, Drums, two guitars and a controller plugged in? And has there ever been a game where the mic plugs in seperate from the controller and you use another controller to move through menus?

It just makes more sense to me, and from the videos and the interviews its basically proven that the mic will plug into the controller. If I could find the other interview, it says flat out that it plugs into the controller.

I don't know about the headset stuff, to me it sounds like they are talking about 360 headsets, but it doesn't matter much since I assume most people will buy a mic.

bchaps
08-13-2007, 09:08 AM
how much do the rouders cost
and
do they just give you 1 extra usb port

Tmidiman
08-13-2007, 09:24 AM
Just found this info on the update to add wireless guitars to the 360:

http://majornelson.com/archive/2007/08/07/xbox-360-system-update-august-07.aspx

Now we just have to wait and see if this is for RB or just for GH III.

I so want that wireless strat tha looks just like my real one.

Bakkster_Man
08-13-2007, 01:34 PM
Does nobody else understand USB? You add routers and you can plug up to 127 USB devices into your XBox (or anything else with USB for that matter). Problem solved.

I'll post this again, for those of you who didn't read the thread.

Kang_Zircon
08-13-2007, 02:50 PM
I'll post this again, for those of you who didn't read the thread.

Do you know if they will be powered adequately though? Just curious, because I've had that issue with USB hubs.

Bakkster_Man
08-14-2007, 12:14 AM
Do you know if they will be powered adequately though? Just curious, because I've had that issue with USB hubs.

If they aren't getting enough power (5V only goes so far) you just need to get a powered USB hub, which gets power from the wall to send the 5V to all the devices connected to it.

Joigga
08-14-2007, 12:25 AM
its 2 USB ports for me ... i use a wireless network adapter

FunkaTrunk
08-23-2007, 12:40 PM
You know, it’s pretty damn sad that so many of you guys have so little faith in the developers. You people REALLY think that this question is a problem for these professionals? Good night…

Eastwood
08-23-2007, 12:46 PM
I think it would be awesome if the drums doubled as a hub. It would also keep at least two cords headed to the back and out of the way of my feet. Dont need hundreds of dollars crashing to the floor.

MartyMcFly
08-23-2007, 12:47 PM
Why was this thread even bumped?

Maherj
08-23-2007, 12:53 PM
I think it would be awesome if the drums doubled as a hub. It would also keep at least two cords headed to the back and out of the way of my feet. Dont need hundreds of dollars crashing to the floor.

I thought of that too. Would make the most sense out of anything I've read so far. If not, hubtime

Eastwood
08-23-2007, 01:02 PM
Looking at the new videos, I cant seem to follow the cords and see where they are plugged in.

Drossvirex
08-23-2007, 10:00 PM
Why is it that in the lastest IGN article they said you would need a USB hub?

I don't really care either way but I think no one really knows what they are talking about.

LoneSteele
08-23-2007, 11:57 PM
Okay listen , The Microphone Connects to Your X360 Wireless Controller , and the Drum , Guitar And Bass Go in The 3 USB Ports The 2 In The Front and 1 In The Back

I'm sorry, I know, I know, people have been saying all along that the mic will go into the Wireless controller, but I have yet to see ANY form of confirmation of this. It seems like thats what one person started saying and everyone else jumped on board.

To be honest, I don't think this is going to be the case, because a) believe it or not, there are still people with no wireless controllers, b) the controllers mic quality is substantially lower than your average USB mic, and c) If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading previews for the game that said the mic was a standard USB mic. A hub (would have to ship with the game) would be a much more likely alternative.

If I'm wrong, then PLEASE show me some form of official confirmation of this, because I've looked for it, I just can't seem to find it.

McDeezy
08-24-2007, 12:12 AM
I just though of something cheesy HMX might pull but I doubt it. Since the bundle contains online 1 guitar, mic and drums. That means 3 usb devices. They'll sell guitars seperate and to use it you would have to go out and buy a hub yourself. Thats just something I thought of though. Was it confirmed that only one guitar comes in the bundle?

Bakkster_Man
08-24-2007, 12:34 AM
I'm sorry, I know, I know, people have been saying all along that the mic will go into the Wireless controller, but I have yet to see ANY form of confirmation of this. It seems like thats what one person started saying and everyone else jumped on board.

To be honest, I don't think this is going to be the case, because a) believe it or not, there are still people with no wireless controllers, b) the controllers mic quality is substantially lower than your average USB mic, and c) If I'm not mistaken, I remember reading previews for the game that said the mic was a standard USB mic. A hub (would have to ship with the game) would be a much more likely alternative.

If I'm wrong, then PLEASE show me some form of official confirmation of this, because I've looked for it, I just can't seem to find it.

I agree. I have never seen the quote where they say you plug into the controller, just that the singer needs a controller for the menus. Maybe people misunderstood, and (as seems to be typical on these forums) said "OMG :eek: this is teh confirmed".


I just though of something cheesy HMX might pull but I doubt it. Since the bundle contains online 1 guitar, mic and drums. That means 3 usb devices. They'll sell guitars seperate and to use it you would have to go out and buy a hub yourself. Thats just something I thought of though. Was it confirmed that only one guitar comes in the bundle?

I can't believe people are actually that concerned about buying a hub still. If you're worried about being able to afford a $10 hub (powered, of course), you probably shouldn't be buying a $200+ game for a $280+ console. Yeah, it would be cool to be put into the drums or in the bundle, but if it isn't, it's not the end of the world. You might have to spend another 2% to use everything, OH NOES!

woobwoob
08-24-2007, 05:49 AM
Was it confirmed that only one guitar comes in the bundle?

as listed on ebgames site:


Contains: game, wired guitar, microphone and drum set.

but then again, perhaps their information about the contents of the bundle is as reliable as their release dates...

Bakkster_Man
08-24-2007, 06:01 AM
as listed on ebgames site:


Contains: game, wired guitar, microphone and drum set.

but then again, perhaps their information about the contents of the bundle is as reliable as their release dates...

Gee, you think? < /sarcasm>

IErrantVentureI
08-24-2007, 06:08 AM
Would a non powered hub work?

ababypenguin
08-24-2007, 06:09 AM
I agree. I have never seen the quote where they say you plug into the controller, just that the singer needs a controller for the menus. Maybe people misunderstood, and (as seems to be typical on these forums) said "OMG :eek: this is teh confirmed".


it is pretty easy to see on the 40 min Gamespot video that the mic is ALWAYS plugged into the wireless controller. But I think it was confirmed that USB mics are compatible also.

Bakkster_Man
08-24-2007, 06:16 AM
Would a non powered hub work?

I expect not. Most devices that get power over USB (aka, they don't plug into anything else and have no batteries) need a powered hub. I'm guessing that the peripherals do require a powered hub, and that's probably your best bet. I could be wrong, though, and you might be fine; I wouldn't expect it to work, though.

Basically, USB cables supply 5V to devices. This is enough to run most small devices. Larger devices usually require another power source. When you hook up a non-powered hub, that 5V needs to get split to power everything attached (including itself). Try to plug too many powered devices in, and none of them get enough power and they shut themselves down. Powered hubs provide a steady 5V to each downstream connection, eliminating this problem.

Can you tell I'm a Computer Engineer?

FunkaTrunk
08-24-2007, 10:46 AM
Wireless guitars. And if you don't want wireless, your stupid.

IErrantVentureI
08-24-2007, 02:16 PM
Well let's hope they pack in a nice little powered hub for us then.

Bakkster_Man
08-24-2007, 02:33 PM
Wireless guitars. And if you don't want wireless, your stupid.

O RLY?

I like wired peripherals. They don't need batteries, which means I don't have to charge or toss anything, and as an actual musician I feel wierd when I'm not corded to anything. I can see why people like wireless, but don't just say "OMG, that's not what i think so it's stupid!"

Desensitized
08-24-2007, 02:35 PM
Wireless guitars. And if you don't want wireless, your stupid.
... And if we don't care?

It's "you're" by the way.

FunkaTrunk
09-03-2007, 03:33 PM
... And if we don't care?

It's "you're" by the way.

My bad, "You're stupid".

But I see what your guys are saying. Maybe the package will come with a hub of sorts, or the guitars will plug into each other...I DON'T KNOW, the Dev's are smart, they'll think of something to suit all our needs.

WildWalker
09-03-2007, 10:39 PM
Does nobody else understand USB? You add routers and you can plug up to 127 USB devices into your XBox (or anything else with USB for that matter). Problem solved.

Yeah, it's great, so simple, but hang on, we forgot something..... oh yeah, each USB port (to be compliant) has to supply 500mA to the device, so 500mA * 127 is about 63.5Amps, thats a lot, I mean 63 Amps DC OMG.

hehe, WW.

logicalnoise
09-04-2007, 01:07 AM
Yeah, it's great, so simple, but hang on, we forgot something..... oh yeah, each USB port (to be compliant) has to supply 500mA to the device, so 500mA * 127 is about 63.5Amps, thats a lot, I mean 63 Amps DC OMG.

hehe, WW.

:rolleyes:

Bakkster_Man
09-04-2007, 05:41 AM
My bad, "You're stupid".

But I see what your guys are saying. Maybe the package will come with a hub of sorts, or the guitars will plug into each other...I DON'T KNOW, the Dev's are smart, they'll think of something to suit all our needs.

Grrr... thread necro.


Yeah, it's great, so simple, but hang on, we forgot something..... oh yeah, each USB port (to be compliant) has to supply 500mA to the device, so 500mA * 127 is about 63.5Amps, thats a lot, I mean 63 Amps DC OMG.

hehe, WW.

That's why most of my other posts have mentioned that the hub will need to be powered. :cool:

Hopton
09-04-2007, 08:44 AM
im pretty sure that it was stated in another thread that your gonna probably have to buy a usb router in order to hook everything up, i could be wrong though so dont hold me to it

FunkaTrunk
09-15-2007, 11:04 AM
Well than...it looks like the 360 guitar will be wired. Ah, what do I care, the games all that matters, and it's going to be AWESOME!

milkman4591
09-15-2007, 12:49 PM
ok once and for all, everyone shut up. Alex said on oxm podcast 79 that the 360 bundle would get a usb hub mixed in, along with every instrument (drum, guitar, and mic into controller) being wired, so stop it. Now we know, so there :D.

Leo_10th
09-15-2007, 12:55 PM
ok once and for all, everyone shut up. Alex said on oxm podcast 79 that the 360 bundle would get a usb hub mixed in, along with every instrument (drum, guitar, and mic into controller) being wired, so stop it. Now we know, so there :D.

You positive the mic plugs into the controller? I could have sworn it's a usb mic... maybe i just COMPLETELY missed that in the interview... in which case i'm sorry :rolleyes:

milkman4591
09-15-2007, 01:03 PM
You positive the mic plugs into the controller? I could have sworn it's a usb mic... maybe i just COMPLETELY missed that in the interview... in which case i'm sorry :rolleyes:

Actually thats the only part i'm not 100% on, only assumed based on all the videos I've seen and articles I've read. Someone who's played on the tour would be best to answer. Thinking about it now, most likely its is a usb since a stand was confirmed for it (would be completely weird with 360 controller on that). Either way, the problem with the usb space (and the title of the thread) is completely solved, until somebody announces keyboard haha.

milesodanglers
09-15-2007, 01:51 PM
I personally use the back port on my 360 for the wireless adapter, but according to reports the bundle will come with a usb hub, allowing you to use all the instruments and plug in all the wires you need too, im assuming that since the back port could be used for the wireless adapter hmx ruled this out and decided there are two ports left uh oh and then figured they needed to throw in the usb hub.