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cmg4894
08-12-2007, 01:49 PM
I have posted this idea on Scorehero and have gotten a very negative response. I don't think the people there are getting my idea. I'm doing it here to get another opinion.

Price on RB and GHIII has been a big topic on most forums. Here is my idea:

This is the third year in a row for a GH game and another guitar. So you're looking at spending $100. I know you don't have to buy the bundle but with the wireless guitar, I am. The quality of the guitars have gotten better with each game. I think the Les Paul is going to get the best. Back on topic, instead of releasing a new game every year how about not releasing a disc and only DLC. I know it is promised but most people are thinking of it as only small add-ons.

Now on to RB. Are we going to need an RBII next year? I know this is a little soon but with the rumored price, most people are going to have to start saving money right after they get the first one. If we know we won't get an upgrade for two or three years that would save us money in the long run. Look at the difference between GH, GHII, and GHIII. GHII was the best I think. Do we really need the changes for GHIII. I know of the engine thing but come on? Most of what I have heard is "oh it looks so much better". Do you really care. It is basically 5 colored circles on a board. I could deal with a white background and stick figures. The game is still really fun. AND with people complaining about how they like this song and don't like that song it could be a solution to that too. You only buy what you want and don't have it included on a disk you have to play to beat the game.

This has gotten too long. Just wondering if it is needed to have a physical disc in hand. Look at GH: RT80's. Just a disc that is just like GHII but new songs. I don't own it but I've played it. I don't think it's worth $50. $30 as DLC would have been better. When we are on RBVII and GHX and you want to play a song on #3 then #6 you would have to change discs. With DLC everything would be on a master list.

Julio-Claudius
08-12-2007, 01:53 PM
Yes it is. A whole game would take up far too much memory.

MotleyPriest111
08-12-2007, 01:56 PM
Guitar Hero III would be a pretty large price. 1600 points is $20. 20x3=60. 1600x3=4800. That's 4,800 points for DLC. Knowing them, they'll just bring it up to 5,000 to make it look complete or something.

Kang_Zircon
08-12-2007, 02:03 PM
I think it's reasonable to not have a new game come out every year, and instead support it with DLC for as long as possible. I'd actually rather see the games go that way than having hew hardware ever year.

But at the same time, if I could pay more for new content and get a disc, instead of having to download it, I would. Maybe not a whole new game, but a disc of songs I can load to my machine. I just prefer having hard copies of my media over a single file on my hard drive. Consoles break, hard drives fail, and sometimes companies stop supporting their older games. I just feel safer having a hard copy.

MotleyPriest111
08-12-2007, 02:06 PM
Hard copies can never be taken away if something happens. Let's say you hard drive fries. Bye bye 4800 points. What if you run out of space? Of course you could buy the Elite, but what about those GamerScore Whores that have it in the 10,000's? That's a lot of space I'm guessing.

cmg4894
08-12-2007, 02:09 PM
I think it's reasonable to not have a new game come out every year, and instead support it with DLC for as long as possible. I'd actually rather see the games go that way than having hew hardware ever year.

But at the same time, if I could pay more for new content and get a disc, instead of having to download it, I would. Maybe not a whole new game, but a disc of songs I can load to my machine. I just prefer having hard copies of my media over a single file on my hard drive. Consoles break, hard drives fail, and sometimes companies stop supporting their older games. I just feel safer having a hard copy.

Wow, even in a short amount of time the response has been very different. I understand the having a disc thing. I'm old school and I'm not used to the whole digital media yet. But I'm thinking of price and how easy it would be to play in the future.

MotleyPriest111
08-12-2007, 02:11 PM
What about an instruction manual? Will they fax it over to you?

cmg4894
08-12-2007, 02:18 PM
What about an instruction manual? Will they fax it over to you?

Ha Ha, but is THAT really needed? Did you read it for GH? I don't know anyone who did.

Kang_Zircon
08-12-2007, 02:35 PM
The one thing I will say I prefer about DLC is your ability to me more selective in your content. I have the PS2 version of GH, so getting GH 80's was the only way for me to get new content (or make my own...). I like almost all the songs on that game, but if I could have narrowed the list down to a dozen songs, and had it be a lot cheaper I would have preffered that.

cmg4894
08-12-2007, 02:57 PM
The one thing I will say I prefer about DLC is your ability to me more selective in your content. I have the PS2 version of GH, so getting GH 80's was the only way for me to get new content (or make my own...). I like almost all the songs on that game, but if I could have narrowed the list down to a dozen songs, and had it be a lot cheaper I would have preffered that.

This my friend is my entire point.

monlienNH3
08-12-2007, 05:04 PM
I like DLC for these games, but I'd prefer the new disc every year on top of that (and I'm sure that's what will happen - too much money is made from retail discs to discontinue them). It would be nice if the DLC from Rock Band could be compatible with RB2 and there is no real reason not to let that happen. I'm definitely against pure DLC because it's not going to last like a disc.

Example: Joe Rocker lives in a small town with high speed internet. While he's there, he downloads over 100 songs during the next year and a half. Then he decides to move out to the country (where I was living a few months ago and really like living like that), but he can't get broadband internet there. His XBOX 360 breaks. He puts his hard drive on his new system, but since he can't connect to XBOX Live, he's screwed due to content protection. Plus he can't get new songs to play cause they stopped releasing proper sequels. There are plenty of scenarios like this. However, with a disc, as long as you have it, you can play it.

This might seem ridiculous to someone who has never been without broadband access, but there are people out there who don't have it. Anyway, I'll be buying a lot of DLC for Rock Band - probably all of it. But I'd buy it all over again if they released it as an expansion disc. I personally want new Rock Band and Guitar Hero games every year - just don't keep upgrading/enhancing the controllers/instruments. Like say for RB2, don't decide to release the double pedal kit that's wireless - but then again, that would be awesome. Anyway, it's not like these sequels are as exploitive as say sports games, Tony Hawk games, etc. Instead of a few tweaks, new rosters (read: names, stats), and some useless new feature, you get 40-80 new songs. $60 is a great deal for 40-80 new ineractive tracks - no matter how many times they do it because there is plenty of great music out there and new music comes out every year.