Boys Vs. Girls

[FallenAce]

This isn't meant to be sexist, I'm just curious...

How many girls will play this game with a group of all girls? Do you think a group of girls has a fighting chance against a group of guys?

What about when you're playing and there's a girl in your group and she's doing so poorly, she's bringing the score down? I hate trying to let them down easy, and I get really tired of the nice talk where I have to say "You're doing fine" when I really don't mean it. Does anybody else go through this?

I'm sure it'll be worse for my friends who have no vested interest in my girlfriend and still have to be held back to play co-op.

It just makes me wonder how many girls out there are actually tolerable. Also, no offense to the girls who actually can play well. This isn't just about this genre of games: try playing Halo with your girlfriend... It's like pulling teeth. 30 seconds of combat just to run away long enough so that she can respawn...

[Xzyliac]

Not that I hate you but it's the blandness of this.

But hate is running through my veins. Is it you? PrObAbLyZ!

[_Five_]

Uh, you know this is not about gender but about the amout of time you have spent practicing a game?

I'm the only girl in my GH group (there's another girl that rarely plays with us, she's not bad, though!), and I can beat the (male) owner of the game in most songs by now.

I bet your girlfriend is not as interested in your games as you are.

[theLoser]

I am in a real band I am the only guy. Now with that being said I am a hardcore gamer and yet they either tie or beat me in halo2 But in GHII I own them 50% of the time they are not hardcore gamers but not casual gamers somewhere in between they just like halo more than I and I like GHII more then them.
So it depends on how much the all girl band really plays it is all about PRACTICE

thats my 2 cents anyway.

theLoser

[_GABO_]

I don't ever have this problem that you seem to. My friends that're girls don't even want to play Guitar Hero..however, they're horrible singers when we play SingStar.

[LZ_Reborn]

Uh, you know this is not about gender but about the amout of time you have spent practicing a game?

I bet your girlfriend is not as interested in your games as you are.

Or in Him for that matter.....

[Bobalicious93]

This isn't meant to be sexist, I'm just curious...

How many girls will play this game with a group of all girls? Do you think a group of girls has a fighting chance against a group of guys?

What about when you're playing and there's a girl in your group and she's doing so poorly, she's bringing the score down? I hate trying to let them down easy, and I get really tired of the nice talk where I have to say "You're doing fine" when I really don't mean it. Does anybody else go through this?

I'm sure it'll be worse for my friends who have no vested interest in my girlfriend and still have to be held back to play co-op.

It just makes me wonder how many girls out there are actually tolerable. Also, no offense to the girls who actually can play well. This isn't just about this genre of games: try playing Halo with your girlfriend... It's like pulling teeth. 30 seconds of combat just to run away long enough so that she can respawn...
yep this happens to me, but its not a girl thats doing badly, its my other friend who just absolutely sucks at the game, and hes a gamer, not just someone whos never played a game before :eek:

[IrisKandi]

I don't think that this is a gender issue. I am awful at GH. I don't play GH2 at all so when I am forced to play I know that I am going to suck. She should just take herself less seriously. Most people should too.

It's all about how much you practice because I know that I could kick ass at GH2 if I tried, but I don't.

[aaron_wil]

Do you think a group of girls has a fighting chance against a group of guys?


This isn't meant to be mean, but your a horrible person ....That's the most sexist thing I have ever heard. You will probably die alone....rightfully so...

[gh2masterwellalmost]

This isn't meant to be sexist, I'm just curious...

How many girls will play this game with a group of all girls? Do you think a group of girls has a fighting chance against a group of guys?

What about when you're playing and there's a girl in your group and she's doing so poorly, she's bringing the score down? I hate trying to let them down easy, and I get really tired of the nice talk where I have to say "You're doing fine" when I really don't mean it. Does anybody else go through this?

I'm sure it'll be worse for my friends who have no vested interest in my girlfriend and still have to be held back to play co-op.

It just makes me wonder how many girls out there are actually tolerable. Also, no offense to the girls who actually can play well. This isn't just about this genre of games: try playing Halo with your girlfriend... It's like pulling teeth. 30 seconds of combat just to run away long enough so that she can respawn...

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There is no gene or physical feature which makes either sex better than the other musically, unlike with in say, athletics, an average man is more athletic than an average woman. Its only because males are encouraged more to do well.

Although, in today's society I think its sexist against males, (look at MPs here in UK, if you're an ethnic minority or woman you have a higher chance of getting chosen to represent a consitutency), it is merely that there is a higher amount of male gamers that means women will generally be worse at the game. Heck, when I went to my school and opened a guitar hero 2 stall for charity, the female teachers weren't as good on the first go as the children, but the children were more experienced in games.

Look, if you've got a gf or w.e. who you don't want to ruin your game: you're taking it too seriously. I let my noobish mate on my Halo 2 account - sure "man city fan" might have got more "f-ing noob"s than before, but you can't take it that seriously.

And yes, you are being sexist.

[Electric_Zen]

FallenAce, it sounds like you just don't like girls very much.

I'm looking forward to introducing the game to my wife.

[HMXQualityControl]

Bear in mind that HMXQualityControl's own HMXVegas (a girl-as seen on E3) kicks most of the company's patootie all over Mass Ave when it comes to our games. And the rest of the ladies play AT LEAST Hard difficulty on at least one instrument.

* cough *

[gh2masterwellalmost]

Bear in mind that HMXQualityControl's own HMXVegas (a girl-as seen on E3) kicks most of the company's patootie all over Mass Ave when it comes to our games. And the rest of the ladies play AT LEAST Hard difficulty on at least one instrument.

* cough *

Hear hear, despite the fact what you said that made sense was invalidated by "cough".

But, you basically said what i said in an awfully long message with a good example. Cheers man. Isn't sexism, along with creedism and racism, on the dont do list of rules?

[LZ_Reborn]

I'm looking forward to introducing the game to my wife.

Same here!!! Actually I think she's more excited about the game than I am....:p

[KingColon]

Everyone's got a ****ing bleeding heart these days.

[gh2masterwellalmost]

Everyone's got a ****ing bleeding heart these days.

What the hell are you talking about (report post people)...

[MotleyPriest111]

This isn't meant to be sexist.

"What's wrong with being sexy?"

[JB4GDI]

Well, just to add my two cents...

I come from a tech school background, 75% guys, 25% girls (approximately). Amongst my own special interest house (18 people, all of which play a musical instrument), there are 6 girls and 12 guys. Every one of the guys happens to play video games, and play at least one genre very well (I can even recall every single guy's genre as I'm sitting here). This seems to be the norm here at the school as it's rare to find a male who does not play video games, and play them well, to some extent.

Out of the 6 girls though, only one plays, and it's only World of Warcraft (which she did for her fiancee I believe, and she enjoys it and is good at it). The other 5 simply don't play video games. There have been times when we've been able to get some of the 5 to play certain games (Katamari Damacy is one that has worked great, and Bomberman DS), but even if they enjoy it, they don't tend to come back to it, and even if they do happen to come back, they don't tend to improve much, even with help. And games that I would think might be appealing to non-gamers (Wii Sports, Guitar Hero) don't seem to be things these girls have any interest in playing for more than a few minutes. I would like to point out that to me, this seems to be the norm at my school, as I know quite a few girls here and it's very rare to hear any of them even mention video games.

All I'm saying is, I'm pretty sure that if the guy/girl ratio was even here, the amount of male gamers would still be overwhelming compared to the amount of female gamers. I would also put money down that if a randomly picked male gamer went against a randomly picked female gamer, the male would win. Now, I'm not saying that females can't be as good or better than males (the fragdolls are a good example against that), but for whatever reason, it just seems like guys are somehow (maybe magically...) naturally better than females at video games, or, are at least drawn to them more. It would be interesting to see some scientific study done on males and females in regards to video game skills.

-Jaime

[Kang_Zircon]

It would be interesting to see some scientific study done on males and females in regards to video game skills.

Well, I've had a college course where, at one point we read some studies on women and techology. Not video games specifically, but they were covered.

One thing that came up was that the way boys and girls are raised from an early age had an impact on their relationships with technology. Things like tech and computers seem more masculine and boys are introduced to them earlier than girls. Even the names of things (i.e. gameboy) make them seem more masculine.

The other thing we learned was that women and men have very different desires for how technology should be used. Men see technology as something to be figured out and understood (or solved/beaten) wich could apply to the presence of more male gamers. Women, on the other hand, were more interested in the utility of technology (things like communication, organization, etc.). Most video games have virtually no utility other than entertainment (except MMO's which can be used for communicating, and statistically, have higher female players).

These were from articles by both men and women. If you're still awake and want to know more I can try and find my book that had these studies and cite you some sources...

[Simonious]

My 360 is allergic to girls.

And yes, my IQ dropped saying that.



But on a more intelligent note, my online band is (I believe) going to have a female guitarist, and whenever I have friends over, there's more than likely going to be one or two girls over. I'm pretty tolerant of people sucking at games, honestly. But not all of them do.

[One_Rabid_Monk]

This is a very funny thread to me because in my group of GHeroists the top 2 spots are women. Women over 30(not by alot) even. The third place player is a 15yr-old boy. There are differences in playing style though. The boy wants to "beat" a song, no matter how ugly it looks. It counts as a win to limp in on 3 stars. His mother, the second best, doesn't like moving up in difficulty until she can 5-star easily. I'm a mix of the two and hands down the best. I haven't completed all of the songs on Expert yet, Instituionalized and Miserlou burn me everytime, but I think I am pretty decent at GH for a man or woman. Also I never played until the game come out for 360, so I still have room for improvement.

This thread makes me wonder though, will I have a hard time finding bandmates just because I am a woman? C'mon boys, some girls like to rock too and don't suck.

My gamertag is One Rabid Monk, if you don't mind playing with a girl, or have info to help me finish the above songs, send me a message.

[gh2masterwellalmost]

This is a very funny thread to me because in my group of GHeroists the top 2 spots are women. Women over 30(not by alot) even. The third place player is a 15yr-old boy. There are differences in playing style though. The boy wants to "beat" a song, no matter how ugly it looks. It counts as a win to limp in on 3 stars. His mother, the second best, doesn't like moving up in difficulty until she can 5-star easily. I'm a mix of the two and hands down the best. I haven't completed all of the songs on Expert yet, Instituionalized and Miserlou burn me everytime, but I think I am pretty decent at GH for a man or woman. Also I never played until the game come out for 360, so I still have room for improvement.

This thread makes me wonder though, will I have a hard time finding bandmates just because I am a woman? C'mon boys, some girls like to rock too and don't suck.

My gamertag is One Rabid Monk, if you don't mind playing with a girl, or have info to help me finish the above songs, send me a message.

hyperspeed mode to beat those songs, works everytime, its how i did freebird and jordan.

[JB4GDI]

Well, I've had a college course where, at one point we read some studies on women and techology. Not video games specifically, but they were covered.

One thing that came up was that the way boys and girls are raised from an early age had an impact on their relationships with technology. Things like tech and computers seem more masculine and boys are introduced to them earlier than girls. Even the names of things (i.e. gameboy) make them seem more masculine.

The other thing we learned was that women and men have very different desires for how technology should be used. Men see technology as something to be figured out and understood (or solved/beaten) wich could apply to the presence of more male gamers. Women, on the other hand, were more interested in the utility of technology (things like communication, organization, etc.). Most video games have virtually no utility other than entertainment (except MMO's which can be used for communicating, and statistically, have higher female players).

These were from articles by both men and women. If you're still awake and want to know more I can try and find my book that had these studies and cite you some sources...

I'm awake now. That would definitely be something interesting to check out!

-Jaime

[IrisKandi]

Well, I've had a college course where, at one point we read some studies on women and techology. Not video games specifically, but they were covered.

One thing that came up was that the way boys and girls are raised from an early age had an impact on their relationships with technology. Things like tech and computers seem more masculine and boys are introduced to them earlier than girls. Even the names of things (i.e. gameboy) make them seem more masculine.

The other thing we learned was that women and men have very different desires for how technology should be used. Men see technology as something to be figured out and understood (or solved/beaten) wich could apply to the presence of more male gamers. Women, on the other hand, were more interested in the utility of technology (things like communication, organization, etc.). Most video games have virtually no utility other than entertainment (except MMO's which can be used for communicating, and statistically, have higher female players).

These were from articles by both men and women. If you're still awake and want to know more I can try and find my book that had these studies and cite you some sources...

I can agree with this post as it is probably the only one that isn't sexist. I remember as a little girl not being too interested in video games because they weren't offered to me at a very young age. But as I got older, I played video games with my cool uncle and fell in love. Granted, I am a very niche gamer unlike my boyfriend who will play ANYTHING that gets a good review. But I think that is the difference you are talking about between how boys and girls are conditioned to think about video games. He just likes video games no matter what because he's been playing since he could hold a controller. I play games that I can interact with other people while playing like Gears online, and other games as long as my boyfriend "plays" with me.

But there is no biological difference in men and women that make guys better at video games. In fact, some women are better at video games because they have no preconceived notions of how to play the game.

[FallenAce]

This isn't meant to be mean, but your a horrible person ....That's the most sexist thing I have ever heard. You will probably die alone....rightfully so...


Hahaha! Wow, really? I'm going to die alone because I wanted to know if others run into the same issues as I do when I'm playing video games with my girlfriend? Doesn't the fact that I have a girlfriend kind of point you towards the idea that I'm not alone?

Also, you might want to go back to school. Your grammar is lacking. Just a friendly suggestion. Thanks for reading my future.

On a lighter note, Kang_Zircon's post was insightful, and I just wanted to say "thank you" to him, so thank you, Kang_Zircon.

[Smidget]

you know this is not about gender but about the amount of time you have spent practicing a game?

There are competitive female teams in Halo circuits, solo competitive female players in DOA circuits, and of course other games with competition circuits. There are insane females who play WoW. It's just "about the amount of time you have spent practicing."


What about when you're playing and there's a girl in your group and she's doing so poorly, she's bringing the score down?I hate trying to let them down easy, and I get really tired of the nice talk where I have to say "You're doing fine" when I really don't mean it. Does anybody else go through this? I'm sure it'll be worse for my friends who have no vested interest in my girlfriend and still have to be held back to play co-op.



Play the game to have fun. Every time you play a game, it doesn't have to be to get high scores. I mean damn, you should be happy your gf is playing the game with you in the first place. You get to enjoy something you love and she is taking an interest in it even though she knows she isn't great and you might be getting frustrated. You don't have to say "you're doing fine" if she isn't, that is lying and in this context - about a video game - pretty damn silly. If she knows she's doing bad (which she probably actually does) she might actually want to get better. So how about this, so she doesn't suck when you play with your friends - the more she plays the better she'll get because it's..."about the amount of time you have spent practicing" But even besides ALL THAT, play the game to have fun! Thats like me playing getting frustrated because there's a sucky person on my Halo team (think 8 person LAN). Who the hell cares, everyone is having a blast playing to have fun. Winning or losing doesn't matter; its all about the laughs we have as a group. If you can't play a game without always being competitve or without always going for the high score, then thats your bad; don't put it off on her or the female gender. Especially with a game thats meant for group play. geez...

[GrayInvisible]

I think it's because they're not raised to like them at a young age. I think they should, because in todays world they're being raised to be fashionable. I like when females integrate with everyone.

Not to be sexist, but I hate when gaming groups unite around the fact that their women. If you bring it up that it's sexist they'd probably say "Well all the other teams are male". All the other teams are male because there are mostly males playing video games, and when they recruit they find mostly males. I'm sure if there was a all male group that didn't accept females than it would be considered sexist by the female gamers. Also, most of the female clans have female specific names. I say a lot of male clans have neutral names, or most. It just seems like wanting attention.

Instead of segregating themselves it should be a melting post of different people. They don't have to emphasise the fact that their female. Males don't emphasise the fact that their male.

Is this sexist? To me it isn't, but things are odd in this world.

[hmxsean]

And the conclusion-

Women will be just as good as everyone else at this game and at music in general. Thread over!