Horizontal guitar notes?

[parastroke7]

Forgive me if I'm beating a dead horse here (say that the idea has already come about)

Well...I was thinking...Rock Band isn't going to have a lot of instrumental songs because there always has to be a place for the singer.

Well, I was thinking...they could include songs without lyrics in the game if they figured out a way to successfully switch the vocals at the top with either Rythm or Lead.

It would be very strange, I know, to learn how to play GH horizontally. I for one could do it, but I'm not so sure how many people could do it, and how many would even enjoy this idea / option. The reason it could be lead is because the person playing Lead will probobly have the most reason to tear ass on a song, because they love a challange. That's just what I think though.

I know for a fact that Harmonix is not going to even think about incorporating this, and I'm not trying for that. I'm just curious what all of you guys think of this.

I mean, imagine rocking out to a sweet instrumental song with 3 guitars and the drum peripheral. I would totally be digging on that. Then think, what if this could be done for any song in the game? Instead of vocals, you would have the option to either play lead, rythm, or bass in this top area. The whole idea of it moving horizontally may rub many of you the wrong way, but if you learned to do it scrolling down then you could probobly do it scrolling to the left.

Another problem with it scrolling horizontally across the top is that it'll cut out a bit of the visible frets for the drums, bass / rythm / lead (whatever the left and right frets will be). I find, however, that when I'm playing guitar hero I rarely look that far up on the fret anyway. This is half of why it seems like a decent idea to me, because I don't see it being that bit of an inconvenience.

*applies fire-proof kevlar*

Input, everyone?

[battle_axe_of_doom]

or how about they put that **** where the mic works as an extra instrument during the instrumental passages and have it throughout the entire song. will be pretty boring i know but its better than leaving out the singer completely

[Magnet]

There's not going to be any horizontal scrolling fret boards, and you're really beating a dead horse.

[LoneSteele]

*applies fire-proof kevlar*

Input, everyone?

Since you thought ahead, and obviously are prepared to be flamed, I don't feel bad saying that this is an incredibly stupid idea and will never be implemented.

[SoraRikuVGM]

This is an awesome idea I would love to be implemented, but I dunno if it's possible.

[SirAnonymous]

If there were going to be instrumentals, couldn't the scrolling notes just come from center (in the distance) to the top of the screen?

Think like a regular notechart, but see-through and seen from below.

[IrisKandi]

Kudos for thinking outside of the box, but that's stupid. Even though RB will evolve into possibly having songs like Less Talk, More Rokk where you aren't playing a guitar but a keyboard or something else, I don't see the game leaving out an entire feature for an instruments. I think that instrumentals will be left for GH.

[hmxsean]

Our focus has been to pick songs that really make use of the four instruments for gameplay. That said, could we stop calling people stupid or idiots just because they had an idea and posted it on here. Somebody starts a thread about HUD and folks start blowing up like the guy shot your dog. I think we need to chill a bit and consider objectivity.

[IrisKandi]

Our focus has been to pick songs that really make use of the four instruments for gameplay. That said, could we stop calling people stupid or idiots just because they had an idea and posted it on here. Somebody starts a thread about HUD and folks start blowing up like the guy shot your dog. I think we need to chill a bit and consider objectivity.

Maybe when I said stupid, I should have said that it wasn't feasible. I don't see his way of using the horizontal stroll working.

And I totally agree that the songs that you guys are probably going to focus on should utilize all of your features because that's what make RB soo awesome. This is coming from a vocalist that doesn't want to sit out for an instrumental song. :)

[parastroke7]

Whew, gotta change my kevlar. I figured you guys wouldn't like the idea, but hey, ya gotta throw out ideas when they come about.

[Xzyliac]

I hate the idea. Do I think you sir are stupid? No. Do I think the idea is? Hell yeah.

But if that offends I apologize honestly but you came here to be critiqued (or if not you should've expected it) and we're not your mom. We don't know you and quite frankly half the people don't care.

That said I am shocked Sean would slam this thread and it's participants when alot more offensive critisms are going really without anyone stepping in. It seems pretty sad. Especially in the Ultimate Setlist board.

[parastroke7]

I hate the idea. Do I think you sir are stupid? No. Do I think the idea is? Hell yeah.

But if that offends I apologize honestly but you came here to be critiqued (or if not you should've expected it) and we're not your mom. We don't know you and quite frankly half the people don't care.

That said I am shocked Sean would slam this thread and it's participants when alot more offensive critisms are going really without anyone stepping in. It seems pretty sad. Especially in the Ultimate Setlist board.

I'm not really offended, but I'm surprised a lot of people think it's a crazily idiotic idea. I'm also surprised that Sean jumped in here, too.

but, most of the reason I'm not offended is this : I don't work for Harmonix, I don't give them their ideas or tell them what's what. It was ony an idea for others to view upon, and negative criticism was expected ( obviously, seeing the end of my first post ).

I don't really have a problem with that though. My aim is to get this game when November comes around, be able to play all the drum oriented parts with my eyes closed (since there's only 4 pads and 1 bass pedal, and The Hives are in the game and I smell several more MTV bands creeping up). After I'm through with that, I'll try to do the equivelant of 5-starring all of the guitar parts, then I might even try to sing (with my stupid voice).

That's pretty much all. This is just a forum like any other, where things get discussed, people become notorious for their humor and antics, people get flamed to the point of liquification, and all ideas (good and bad) come out and are criticized. Flaming and praise are bound to happen as much as any other thing.

I'll post only my good ideas until then, and bury the moronic ones.

[Xzyliac]

Honestly I would love to hear them all. At times if an idea has a good foundation it's still fun to try and make it work.

Anyways I gave my two cents. See ya around.

[parastroke7]

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[hmxsean]

The reason I jumped in is that there has been a sudden rash of people just immediately attacking a person's idea for the game for no other reason than to feel superior. I'm working on Ultimate Setlist but right now my focus is on this part of the forum which shouldn't descend into that crap. It makes forums entirely unreadable.

[Xzyliac]

I understand. I also noticed you closed the My Chemical Romance thread in Album Reviews and took note of the bashers. Thank you.

[Eastwood]

Big thanks to Sean for doing what he can.

This idea is strange and I don't think it would work. I'm sure we could find something equivalent. Besides, if they made the change, there would be a rash of "my xbox only has 3 USB ports, how can I support 4 instruments" topics. :p

If this idea were to work it would have to take out the whole horizontal deal and make it multiplayer only and have everyone have their own screen.

[Rainbow]

I very much support the idea of having different instrument combinations than the canonical 4, if it can be done, though as has been stated changing the instrument mix or adding more have some problems for which I admittedly don't have good solutions.

Songs with less than the 4 instruments are still doable. Though Sean has said the focus is on picking good 4-instrument songs, I hope HMX is still onsidering this, at least for DLC, for the time when they have gotten past a certain threshold of full-band tunes. Two of my favorites from Guitar Hero 1 were the instrumentals (Spanish Castle Magic and Frankenstein), and it would be sad to see a lot of good and fun music get tossed because it didn't feature all four instruments.

Rainbow

[ThePaska]

I'm going to have to say this is a bad idea. It just isn't that practical. I think songs without lyrics could be put in the game, perhaps as DLC, and just up to 3 players would be able to play them. I say this not because sidescrolling notes would be hard, I mean it might take some time to get used to, but I'm sure it would be ok. I think it would be annoying because who is going to have 3 guitars? I think it will limit the play too much, causing people to either buy an extra guitar or seek out their 4th player online.

[dlisapussy]

or how about they put that **** where the mic works as an extra instrument during the instrumental passages and have it throughout the entire song. will be pretty boring i know but its better than leaving out the singer completely

Why have the singer do something boring when you can either

1) Do what he says.

or

2) Make a 4th track, which in my opinion, isn't 'cluttered' at all. Colored dots on a TV aren't hard to see, they don't need to be in detail. This way, you could sing, play lead, rhythm, bass, and drums. BUT it's only marketed as a four man band, so it won't happen in RB. Even though a singer/rhythm, lead, bass, and drums is a four man band. Plus, everyone thinks that making rhythm tracks for a song isn't practical (which is stupid, more tracks = more **** to play = more fun).

[Phrank-E]

I understand. I also noticed you closed the My Chemical Romance thread in Album Reviews and took note of the bashers. Thank you.

Yeah, But everyone didn't bash MCR at every oppurtunity, Then HMX might start to consider adding them.... And we can't possibly allow that can we? We must be heard.

[blue_dragonzero]

Due to the DLC yesterday, I believe it was RedOctane that likes MCR, not HMX. At least MiM can make you laugh. So keep up the good work HMX!:D

[WildWalker]

I think a couple of Instrumental songs would be great, it will allow the really talented RB players time to show their skillz while the *cough* singer goes to the fridge and gets the next round of beers.

:)

WW