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IbanezBassist_v2
08-14-2007, 06:13 AM
I want to know how many of you have had issues with your PS3/360.

Rev0lver
08-14-2007, 06:20 AM
you should add another option. i have had problems with my 360 before, but i don't want a ps3.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-14-2007, 06:23 AM
you should add another option. i have had problems with my 360 before, but i don't want a ps3.

I'm looking for the error ratio of the 360. Not giving people an opportunity to choose something different. If you have one of the above mentioned systems. Answer accordingly to the best option that applies to you. Thanks

jq71586
08-14-2007, 06:24 AM
If you are concerned about hardware failures and things breaking down and that is one of your main priorities you have to go with the PS3. That is just a fact that it doesn't break down as often.

http://www.joystiq.com/2007/08/13/ps3-survives-108-straight-hours-in-a-sweatbox/

Now granted they didn't run the 360 under the same conditions, but the 360 breaks down in normal conditions much more often

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MrtyMcfly
08-14-2007, 06:27 AM
There's no choice for Xbox with minor problems above. But the only thing that happened to me was it froze a couple times.

But that was my fault. I had it laying down, with my Ps2 on top of it, inside an entertainment center. It overheated :eek:

But ever since I started standing it up and in the open, no problems whatsoever.
I think people hype up problems the 360 had a little too much. Just take care of it and you're fine.

Things to keep in mind:

Do not keep it in a closed up tight space

Do not leave it running all day

Try to minimize the time you use it. For example, I use my Ps2 to still watch dvd's, that way I'm not overusing my xbox.

And never ever attempt to move it if there's a game running and you have the system standing up. It scratches any cd horrificly.

A lot of it is common sense, just be careful, and you'll have no problems. I'm sure there's not much wrong with the Ps3 either, but it's more expensive, not as good of game selection (imo) and not as good online play (imo)

IbanezBassist_v2
08-14-2007, 06:29 AM
Well, originally I wanted a PS3, but I am seriously thinking about the 360 now. Its a tough, expensive decision to make. I want to make sure its the right one.

Magnet
08-14-2007, 06:37 AM
Well, originally I wanted a PS3, but I am seriously thinking about the 360 now. Its a tough, expensive decision to make. I want to make sure its the right one.

I eventually want both, but I can barely afford one at the moment. The PS3 being $500 right now and possibly going back up to $600 later on leans me toward the PS3, but the 360 Premium just had a price drop to $350, and it's got some great games to play before Rock Band comes around (I'm mostly interested in BioShock). I still haven't decided yet. I wish I was rich.

TheRocker
08-14-2007, 06:42 AM
I have had my ps3 for 7 months already and it is working great.

TheRocker
08-14-2007, 06:48 AM
I was in the same boat. I just bought my 360 in April. I spent a good week or 2 just researching comparisons and such on which to buy.

Not only is there the Ps3 vs. Xbox360 war, but there's the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray war too. I didn't like the idea that you can't play regular dvd's on blu ray, but you can on hd players.

Also with the new version Ps3 system they came out with it is NOT backwards compatible at all. Whereas you can still play most xbox games on the 360.

Your mistaken Mcfly , the New 80gb Ps3s Are Backward Compatible , they just dont use the Emotion Something Chip W/e , my point is you can still play Ps1/Ps2 Games.

jq71586
08-14-2007, 06:49 AM
Not only is there the Ps3 vs. Xbox360 war, but there's the HD-DVD vs. Blu-Ray war too. I didn't like the idea that you can't play regular dvd's on blu ray, but you can on hd players.



What are you talking about? You can play standard DVD's on the PS3/blu-ray. I did it just last night. and the night before that. And tonight when I watch Fracture.

This type of information leads to the wrong console purchase if you are interested in movies/hdtv viewing/entertainment.

FreQstar
08-14-2007, 06:53 AM
My 360 has never given me a problem. I've had it since march 15th 06. I use it for as a dvd player, I've downloaded most if not all the patches that have caused bricking and I've left it running for hours on end while downloading and no red ring of death)

Everything I've seen about the return policy seems that it's pretty easy to get a 360 fixed at little to no cost.

That being said every single time it takes a little longer to load or it starts making more noise then it should I start staring at the ring waiting for something to go wrong, but maybe that's just paranoa setting in from all those

psyborg
08-14-2007, 06:55 AM
My 360 decided it didn't want to be a game console anymore but rather a white brick that emits red blinking circles.

MrtyMcfly
08-14-2007, 06:57 AM
What are you talking about? You can play standard DVD's on the PS3/blu-ray. I did it just last night. and the night before that. And tonight when I watch Fracture.

This type of information leads to the wrong console purchase if you are interested in movies/hdtv viewing/entertainment.

Well then, looks like someone gave ME wrong info when I was shopping lol. Oh well, it's ok, I still like my xbox. Somewhere down the road I'd like to purchase a Ps3 in addition anyway. :rolleyes:

battle_axe_of_doom
08-14-2007, 06:58 AM
well my 360 still betrays me sometimes and freezes but only on madden and fight night. i can any other game for as long as i want and no freezing will occur. oh yeah and i'm on my second 360 :\

jq71586
08-14-2007, 06:59 AM
Both systems are great. Each have their strengths and weaknesses. The decision is up to the buyer ultimately.

Raider87
08-14-2007, 07:00 AM
I've had my 360 for a long time now and I've had no problems with it....

IrisKandi
08-14-2007, 07:04 AM
My 360 decided it didn't want to be a game console anymore but rather a white brick that emits red blinking circles.

You can send it back to Microsoft to fix it unless you have tampered with it.

Microsoft has an excellent repair policy. They just extended the policy another 2 years. I have 2 360's. One is a premium that I have had for over a year with ZERO problems and an Elite that I have had for about 3 months with only one problem with overheating, which was my fault.

The 360 is a workhorse if you take care of it right. It's still an expensive piece of machinery, and you shouldn't be beating it up in the first place after you spent so much money on it. It should be babied a little!

I remember hearing that the PS3 had problems with the disk loader and scratching disks. That was at launch so I am sure they have probably fixed it.

I personally think that the 360 is a superior system. I also think that HD-DVD is the way to go in that respect. Awhile back I helped a family decide between the PS3 and the 360. After a little bit of talking they went away with the 360 and Gears and Rainbow Six.

I have played a PS3 and wasn't impressed. Resistance was average at best imo, and the online interface was weird. Now I am going to get a PS3 EVENTUALLY because I want to play Heavenly Sword and FF13, but the 360 is a better value at the moment.

Please buy the 360!!!!!

battle_axe_of_doom
08-14-2007, 07:09 AM
also as much as i like mgs4, i got two words that should convince you to buy the 360 : MASS EFFECT

TheRocker
08-14-2007, 07:17 AM
Ps3 http://aycu30.webshots.com/image/21989/2003257152607463952_rs.jpg

Best
1. The PS3 has the Cell Processor.
2. The PS3 plays Blu-Ray.
3. The PS3 is Backwards Compatability.
4. The PS3 has Sixaxis Controllers.
5. The PS3 has a standard Harddrive.

Worst
1. It is Hard to Program
2. It Can Have a ?me-too? Mentality
3. Overpromised and Underdelivered
4. Weak Online Service
5. It is Expensive

Xbox360 http://aycu21.webshots.com/image/21140/2003281602672042147_rs.jpg

Best
1. The Xbox 360 has Hardcore Gamers.
2. The Xbox 360 has Xbox Live.
3. The Xbox 360 has Xbox Dashboard.
4. The Xbox 360 has Game Library.
5. The Xbox 360?s Pricing.

Worst
1. You have to pay to play online
2. They Use Microsoft Points
3. The Hard Drive Is Not Standard
4. The Accessories are Overpriced
5. One Third of the Systems are Defective

IrisKandi
08-14-2007, 07:23 AM
1/3 of the systems are defective? Really? I find that hard to believe. But what do I know?

Phiromos
08-14-2007, 07:30 AM
well i've heard lots of people have tons of problems with 360, even though personally i haven't had a single one, except when my brother kicked it over while a game was in there and the game doesnt work anymore..but ive had my 360 for...a while..i got it when it came out

Saltines
08-14-2007, 07:34 AM
If I were you, I would wait a little, price drops, more 360 fixes... Wait until they have alot of the bugs worked out..
I personally would do that, and grab the 360. I havent heard much good about the ps3, so far the library of games is a tad weak..

IrisKandi
08-14-2007, 07:35 AM
I mean I have had maybe 5 out of the 50 plus friends on my friends list have to send their 360 to Miscrosoft, but that's not that many imo.

Eman311
08-14-2007, 07:47 AM
The only true deciding factor in this decision is whether you are ready for an hd dvd player.

If you have an hdtv, or plan on having one soon, i'd go with the ps3. If you're all for the games and a great community, go with the 360. The 360 has a great warranty now, so even if it does happen to break (which is easy to avoid) you should be all set.

ALSO, the newer 360's have a redesigned motherboard that is cooler, and a dvd drive that is quieter. Any 360 you buy from now on will have this, so reliability will be much better. If you buy a 360, make sure it has the HDMI port, this signifies it is one of the redesigned models.

Apples
08-14-2007, 08:32 AM
Recently, MS has switched to improved production methods and added an additional heat sink on the 360. This stands to improve reliabilty even more so for first-time 360 buyers. I think these moves combined with a 3 year warranty makes the reliability complaint somewhat of a past issue. The 360 recently had a nice price cut to make it more a more attractive proposition as well.

I also think the failure issue has been exaggerated by a vocal minority and perpetuated by Sony fanboys in these stupid "console wars" tirades.



IMHO, the 360 has a better game library, better online features, and several other "significant" benefits over a PS3.

Either way, have fun with your new game console.

LZ_Reborn
08-14-2007, 01:40 PM
I want to know how many of you have had issues with your PS3/360.

No problems here with the PS3, and I have had mine since Dec-25.

Also your decision may be influenced depending on when your planing to buy your new console. If it's a month or two from now. Then "maybe" the game library issue won't matter that much, there's a lot of sweet games on the way.

But whichever one you choose, I'm sure you will be very pleased with it.

SoraRikuVGM
08-14-2007, 03:37 PM
I have a Wii. Sorry.

BTW, try 360. If it gets red ring, just send it to Microsoft.

sushi111
08-14-2007, 03:56 PM
My 360 broke so i bought a new one.

monlienNH3
08-14-2007, 07:28 PM
Systems I own and experience, benefits, negatives:

(knocks on wood constantly through this post)

Launch 360 Pro:
No problems. Never had to send it in. Got the red lights once because the AV cables got loose when I took it to a friend's house. Never saw that again. I love achievements (it has changed the way I play games). Live is worth the money. Wonderful user interface. Really like the controller. Custom soundtracks. Lots of game demos available. But most importantly it has a great game library(for example GHII, Dead Rising, Lost Planet, Gears of War, Oblivion (also on PS3), Forza 2, lots of good XBL Arcade games - all with free demos) and getting better - Eternal Sonata, Mass Effect, Bioshock, Virtua Fighter 5 with online play. Plus a few games PS3 will have also: Assassin's Creed, Mercenaries 2, Rock Band, and Guitar Hero III.
Negatives: loud CD drive (louder than it should be), the system runs pretty hot but doesn't overheat, overpriced gamerpics and themes (but you don't have to buy them), not fully backwards compatible, D-pad on controller needs redesign.

Launch PS3 60GB: No problems. Makes a wonderful Blu-ray player. I also own a stand alone HD-DVD player. I was worried that the Blu-ray player in the PS3 may be subpar since Blu-ray players were more than the PS3 at the time, but the HD-DVD and Blu-ray discs are of equal quality. Very nice. Online is free, although I've never played a game online with it. Has a web browser, but I prefer to browse on a PC. I like the fact that they now offer PS1 classics for ~$5-10 that you can play on your PS3 or PSP. Very quiet system for being so powerful. Doesn't run hot. The model I have is fully backwards compatible (some newer models may or may not be.) Good games are coming: Heavenly Sword, Little Big Planet, plus the stuff I mentioned in the 360 list. Home looks interesting.
Negatives: Very small game library, most of which is on the 360. No achievements (trophies just don't seem the same, but we'll see when they appear). Demos can take a LONG time to download. Don't offer free trials of most arcade titles. I miss having rumble in my controller.

360 Elite: Same as before. Never had a problem. My girlfriend and I were fighting over who would play the 360 and I wanted more harddrive space, so I bought one of these when it came out. This is now my system and the pro is hers.

And not that it factors in, Launch Wii: Loved Wii Sports, Zelda, Trauma Center, Super Paper Mario. But don't play it much. Controller is pretty cool. The whole family loved it. Gamecube games work great.
Negatives: The Wii Store hardly ever works for me. At least it worked long enough to download Punchout! Game library has slowed down and doesn't look too promising, exciting anymore.

Anyway, I like all the systems, but as a gaming machine, at the moment, the 360 is the best by far. You just have to overlook how loud it can get playing certain games. Always go back to the dashboard before ejecting a game and give it lots of room to breathe. I've run mine for 18 hours straight plenty of times and the launch system ran at least 3-5 hours a day since launch. Never had a problem. I think using my dashboard rule might make a difference. I started doing that because when I ejected the games from the game menu, they would come out extremely hot and I may have scratched one that way - not sure. Nevertheless, it's a small hassle for a wonderful system.

Another long post by monlienNH3... I really don't mean to write books every time.

newwaytodie
08-14-2007, 08:24 PM
I had an original launch day 360 that lasted a year and a half, it eventually gave me the "3-ring" swan song and I went and got another one.

To paraphrase apples, the HW failure is a dead issue. MS has rectified the problem that caused it, and have insured that, just in case, you're still covered with the best home console warranty out there.

I would love to have a PS3, and I do plan on getting one, but there are just so many great games (both now and in the future) for 360. That "must buy" game for PS3 just hasn't come out yet.... MGS4, Gran Turismo 5, FFXIII, those games are far off on the horizon.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-15-2007, 12:37 AM
Well, lets just say for hypothetically that all those releases were available right now, you had neither console. Which one would you get then?

Eman311
08-15-2007, 12:47 AM
I'd still get a 360. The ps3 has those games coming out, and I am a huge MGS4 game. But I see more developers going exclusive for the 360 in the future than the ps3, and that is definetly the current trend. or go multiplatform of course.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-15-2007, 12:49 AM
or go multiplatform of course.

Ha! I wish I could!

Saltines
08-15-2007, 12:52 AM
If all those releases were out, I don't know if I could say.

There are alot of good games coming out and that definatly changes the outlook on these consoles.. I would probably still go for the 360, but the ps3 wouldn't be a far off choice.

I hear the online is weak, and I know 360 has a strong online database.
I've never used a ps3 before, so I'm not quite sure of all it's little tricks.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-15-2007, 01:01 AM
PS3 is a nice little bit of technology. I've played on one many times and can say I'm comfortable in its ability.

360 not so much. I've never played one so don't know. That is why I am trying to do all the research I can on it.

Its hard to switch over to 360 since I've been playing on the Playstation platform for 12 + years. Sony has been good to me as in the game genre.

Saltines
08-15-2007, 01:09 AM
PS3 is a nice little bit of technology. I've played on one many times and can say I'm comfortable in its ability.

360 not so much. I've never played one so don't know. That is why I am trying to do all the research I can on it.

Its hard to switch over to 360 since I've been playing on the Playstation platform for 12 + years. Sony has been good to me as in the game genre.

Yeah, it's a tough decision.. If you could I'd say go both but thats a little extreme. I still play my playstation one sometimes... two of my favorite games are on that console, and I don't have a working ps2.

The ps3 really looked good when it was near release, and I heard the price and was turned off to it. I would say.. if you have the money.. Then maybe you should go for the ps3. Blu-ray is pretty kick ass, it wont be money wasted. My only problem with the ps3 is the small library of games, but soon thats going to change for the better.

nicko68
08-15-2007, 01:32 AM
I think PS3 would be good for those of us who have a PS2 and would like to ensure we can continue to play GH, GHII and GH80s, provided that the guitar controller for the upcoming GHIII will work with those games.

LZ_Reborn
08-15-2007, 01:40 AM
I think PS3 would be good for those of us who have a PS2 and would like to ensure we can continue to play GH, GHII and GH80s, provided that the guitar controller for the upcoming GHIII will work with those games.

I believe there is an adapter that you can use to plug your old PS2 controllers to the PS3 I think it was like 20 bucks. Haven't tested myself so please do a little research before you go out and get it.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-15-2007, 01:59 AM
I think PS3 would be good for those of us who have a PS2 and would like to ensure we can continue to play GH, GHII and GH80s, provided that the guitar controller for the upcoming GHIII will work with those games.

If thats the case, why not just keep your PS2 as well?

kanerules
08-15-2007, 02:12 AM
Since you mentioned being a playstation guy, I had to comment. I have stuck with playstation as well through the 1st two consoles, and I absolutely hated the original xbox...mainly the controllers.

Now however, I have had a 360 for approx 6 months and I couldn't be happier with it. The online is amazing, and the arcade games database is steadily growing with awesome games I played when I was younger, such as the original Doom, Sonic the Hedgehog, TMNT arcade game, etc...and graphics-wise, although technically speaking, the ps3 might be superior...unless you're extremely picky I don't see that much of a difference.

As for ps3, I recently played around with one for about half a day, and while the system is very impressive, the menus and online were not hard, but not as easy as 360 to navigate, as well, as many have mentioned, the game library, even after the soon-to-be-released titles is not overly comprehensive. And for the most part, minus a few exclusives..a lot of the bigger games are on 360 as well, anyways.

These factors for me sell the 360, but the ps3 is far from a bad machine, but I think in terms of features, games, and navigation, the 360 is the way to go. And this is coming from a playstation guy.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-15-2007, 02:27 AM
These factors for me sell the 360, but the ps3 is far from a bad machine, but I think in terms of features, games, and navigation, the 360 is the way to go. And this is coming from a playstation guy.

Thanks, I appreciate the info, especially from a fellow Sony fan. I'm pretty set on the 360, just wanted to know everyones stand point on it.

Thanks to everyone who gave me usefull info to base my descision!

Phrank-E
08-15-2007, 11:12 AM
I'm looking at it like this.. I am still waiting for "Home" to launch.. That is supposed to flesh out all the online concerns... But seeing is believing. I agree that XBL is the best online arena... But I don't need absolute superiority in that aspect.. Just really damn good should fill the bill. But I need to hear some hands-on final reviews on Home.

I would hate to live in a world without God of War, Twisted Metal, Gran Turismo and another handful of Sony made games. I don't think M$ has ever crafted a game I care about. They may have some big league exclusives.. But then I HATE FPS games.. So I have no real reason to get a Xbox. PS3 also has at least one DL game they made to be DL'd and not just some 20 year old game. I want new. Calling All Cars was made by David Jaffe and is supposed to be really good. I just like the fact Sony is willing to fund simple games for DL as opposed to just cashing in on old properties.

I love everything Hi Def and didn't buy 300 yet cause I wanna wait till I have a HD player.. Bluray seems to be in the lead on that front as well. After all... Many MANY movies are Bluray only and can't be had on HDDVD. Blockbuster announced to only rent Bluray.

I'm leaning towards the PS3 right now... I'll let ya know if I change my mind.

PS. As to the current library.. Xbox didn't have a stellar library it's first year either I'd wager. Most system's don't/won't. But we are getting into it's second holiday season and thing's should start hopping. What else besides RB do ya need anyway...

PSS. I hear SquareEnix isn't Sony Exclusive anymore either.. Don't remember where I heard it.. But FFXIII may find it's way to Xbox someday.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-16-2007, 05:18 AM
What kills me is the damn price tag! Obviously if it was even 50 bucks lower I'd go with it. I know! I KNOW! Its BR too! ****!

Phrank-E
08-16-2007, 07:12 AM
Meh.. Money doesn't color my decision... When I was little younger than you are now I starved myself for a month to scratch up the cash needed to buy a 3DO on launch.. That set me back 699+tax. This is why I always laugh when People cry "It's too much for a console" Balls, I say. If it gives you ultimate pleasure it is worth every penny.

travmeatwad
08-16-2007, 07:22 AM
Alright.. I got my 360 a few days before launch.. and it froze on me like once or twice.. but that's it.. Until recently, when the picture stopped working.. the sound was the only thing working.. I've never heard of any others with this problem, so it's rare..

the_polite_force
08-16-2007, 09:55 AM
Meh.. Money doesn't color my decision... When I was little younger than you are now I starved myself for a month to scratch up the cash needed to buy a 3DO on launch.. That set me back 699+tax. This is why I always laugh when People cry "It's too much for a console" Balls, I say. If it gives you ultimate pleasure it is worth every penny.

i did the exact same thing for my ps2. i was fortunate that after saving up like $230 the price was dropped and i went ahead and got it along with mgs2. that is still one of my proudest moments :'(

Brock_Landers
08-16-2007, 11:25 AM
My 360 hasn't had any problems in the 6 months or so I've had it.. It get's a fair workout, but not 12 hour marathons of GoW at a time.

Achievements are pretty awesomely addictive too.

Isn't the 360 switching to a new cpu that runs cooler, soon? Might be worth waiting for that if it is true.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-17-2007, 01:06 AM
Meh.. Money doesn't color my decision... When I was little younger than you are now I starved myself for a month to scratch up the cash needed to buy a 3DO on launch.. That set me back 699+tax. This is why I always laugh when People cry "It's too much for a console" Balls, I say. If it gives you ultimate pleasure it is worth every penny.

Balls my ass! Did you have two kids then that you had to support?

Saltines
08-17-2007, 02:57 AM
I wish I could just not worry about the price of these consoles, but I'm sure it will be a bit different once I can get a job and decide for myself what I can do with my money.

Phrank-E
08-17-2007, 09:18 AM
Balls my ass! Did you have two kids then that you had to support?

Was paying Child support for one.

IbanezBassist_v2
08-17-2007, 05:20 PM
Was paying Child support for one.

Ahh....but I said two. :cool:

Brad_Lee
08-17-2007, 08:48 PM
I have a 360, PS3 and a Wii... and I can say with great certainty that as of right now the Xbox 360 is a more sound investment. And I am saying this having my 360 get the RoD 4 times.

My PS3 sits on the shelf collecting dust next to R:FoM and my Wii only sees action on classic games.

BD movies is nice and all... but I don't buy videogame consoles to watch movies.

I vote for a fifth option.. the 360 isn't reliable... but it has a lot of stellar games.

the_polite_force
08-17-2007, 08:50 PM
wuts rod??

Brad_Lee
08-17-2007, 08:55 PM
ring of death.

the_polite_force
08-17-2007, 09:00 PM
oh. i always just called them the red lights of doom

stinkdog2007
08-18-2007, 04:32 AM
I have had my 360 since Dec '06 and I haven't had a single problem.:D

Rock_Starman
08-18-2007, 05:47 PM
0 problems with the PS3.
On my 5th 360.