Drug Reference In Next Weeks DLC.

[Fleshwound]

I'm wondering if HMX will be editing the drug references in next weeks DLC. I'm hoping not. The are master recordings so I hope not.

[R33DH4M]

Yea they probably will but I don't care i'll be singing the real lyrics anyway.

[rockst01]

They wouldn't, Casey Jones would be ruined if they removed the word cocaine.


"Drivin' that train, high on _______
Casey Jones you better watch your speed"

[AcousticCitsuoa]

They wouldn't, Casey Jones would be ruined if they removed the word cocaine.


"Drivin' that train, high on _______
Casey Jones you better watch your speed"

how do they even edit it out?

would it just be silent there?

[Gryffindor]

I really hope they don't.

I don't see that as bad as singing "Always get it up for the touch of the younger kind." (The Knack - My Sharona).

[bisq]

why would they edit it? It's not like the song is telling people to do drugs, it's more of a cautionary tale...

[Sayburr]

Concidering its a master recording and there is no radio edit, my guess is no.

[billmcdougal]

I highly doubt it will be edited. There are worse things in the game, if you ask me. Hell, doesn't the Nirvana song use the word "whore?"

[Gryffindor]

I think in general if it can be played on regular radio then you'll see the same version in the game. The game is rated T for a reason.

Speaking of which, I'm rather surprised that they're editing swear words out at all with that rating. I'm playing Uncharted, Drakes Fortune right now. It's also rated T (Teen) and there's loads of swearing in it.

[maskofskin]

Sweet Leaf is entirely about marijuana.

:eek: I thought it was about Botany!

[mct685]

Sweet Leaf is entirely about marijuana.

[mct685]

:eek: I thought it was about Botany!

Damn, super ninja'd! You were able to quote me even before I posted!

[bisq]

Sweet Leaf is entirely about marijuana.

yup and that song DOES actually encourage people to do it...

TRY IT OUT!!!

[maskofskin]

Damn, super ninja'd! You were able to quote me even before I posted!

How, wow I must have natural forum skills far beyond normal users.

My e-midichlorians are through the roof!

[gocryemokid]

considering sweet leaf is in the game i'd sure hope not.

[Bullseye]

I say they could replace the drug reference with a more wholesome lyric...

"Driving that train... Hi, I'm Michael Caine"

[Dr._Rock]

Did someone say ccccccccocain!?!?!

[gocryemokid]

Did someone say ccccccccocain!?!?!

nah. Jerry Garcia said cocaine you sick clown bastard. :p

[Xanthous]

Cocain's a helluva drug...

[Bodabo420]

In the March issue of OXM it listed the 4 packs to come out in march:They were off of the date of the NIN pack but we will see

Tue 03.04.08
At The Gates "Blinded By Fear" -master-
Evile "Thrasher" -master-
Haunted "Shadow World" -master-

Tue 03.11.08
Bad Company "Shooting Star" -cover-
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Simple Man" -master-
The Police "Message In A Bottle" -master-

Tue 03.18.08
NIN "March Of The Pigs" -master-
NIN "The Collector -master-
NIN "The Perfect Drug" -master-

Tue 03.25.08
Iron Maiden "Wrathchild" -cover-
Black Sabbath "Supernaut" -cover-
Metallica "Fuel" -master-

[gocryemokid]

yeah thats a list we've all seen before. they angered the metalheads and pleased the hippies - i smell a revolt

[HarryYambag]

I laugh everytime I see your name!

Thats great man.

[Sayburr]

yeah thats a list we've all seen before. they angered the metalheads and pleased the hippies - i smell a revolt


Yeah, the hippies will say, "Peace, man" The Metalheads will say, "Tear 'em to peices, dude"

[Destnaru]

Well there goes another week with no DLC for me because I am not going to buy music with drug related lyrics.
What the hell are they thinking about there at Harmonix?
It makes me wonder if whoever the people are that are selecting songs for the DLC are not secretly working for Activision behind the scenes to kill the game.
Despite all of their disclaimers it is completely inappropriate to put that kind of content into the game.
People with children and teens who play the game are not likely to find it to be amusing.
Of course since I know now I won't be buying it.

[Fee]

Well there goes another week with no DLC for me because I am not going to buy music with drug related lyrics.
What the hell are they thinking about there at Harmonix?
It makes me wonder if whoever the people are that are selecting songs for the DLC are not secretly working for Activision behind the scenes to kill the game.
Despite all of their disclaimers it is completely inappropriate to put that kind of content into the game.
People with children and teens who play the game are not likely to find it to be amusing.
Of course since I know now I won't be buying it.


Dude, its Rock and Roll, 90% of songs are written while on drugs or about drugs. Thats like saying I don't my kid to play a racing game because they might see a car wreck.

[maskofskin]

There's all kinds of 420 and 69 references hidden in the game without the DLC.

[AnonymousMonkey]

why would they edit it? It's not like the song is telling people to do drugs, it's more of a cautionary tale...

That kind of reasoning is usually lost on people who who just yell "DRUGS ARE BAD THINK ABOUT THE CHILDREN!"

[Fee]

Yea, he bought the wrong game if he dont want his kids to hear about drugs.

[Dr._Rock]

If you're so concerned about what your childern are exposed to why in the h*ll are you letting them play a T rated game???
Do they listen to the radio???
They will hear this stuff.

[Meldlm]

Well there goes another week with no DLC for me because I am not going to buy music with drug related lyrics.
What the hell are they thinking about there at Harmonix?
It makes me wonder if whoever the people are that are selecting songs for the DLC are not secretly working for Activision behind the scenes to kill the game.
Despite all of their disclaimers it is completely inappropriate to put that kind of content into the game.
People with children and teens who play the game are not likely to find it to be amusing.
Of course since I know now I won't be buying it.


Hahahaha.....HA...Hahahaha.

These people amuse me. They're usually the ones with Sweet Leaf on their DLC list and have no clue about it's meaning as well.

60s and 70s era Rock Music having references to drugs?! No way!

[Dr._Rock]

Sweet Leaf is about Sharron Osborne, right??

[Destnaru]

Nice pile on!
I am pretty open minded and I don't find the cryptic messages to be something that is really all that bad, yeah, I know they are everywhere in the game.
And I am not saying that because I disapprove of certain lyrics that it shouldn't be available to anyone by any means.
I am simply saying that if they are trying to promote a relatively new game that is targeted at teens then maybe they should put a little more thought into the overt references to glamorizing the use of drugs.
Not everyone finds that to be a good message to be directed at teens.
If you want the songs that promote the use of drugs in your DLC then that is fine with me but personally I will not buy them.
And that is just my opinion.

[QueensoftheStoneAge]

It's just drugs, it's not like it's promoting satanism or anything. Casey Jones better be uncensored, if not that would be very lame.

[WharfRat23]

That Is A Disgraceful Idea They Better Not Edit Out Cocaine in Casey Jones.... If They Are Just Use Another Song Please..........Dark Star Perhaps

[dfjdejulio]

Sweet Leaf is about Sharron Osborne, right??

Actually, remember the "little green sprout" from the "green giant" TV commercials?

The song is about Ozzy's "Brittish schoolboy experimentation" phase with the sprout, back when he was a lad. It's a little known fact you can pick up by watching the unrated director's commentary of the vegetarian edition of "Behind the Music".

[mct685]

Well there goes another week with no DLC for me because I am not going to buy music with drug related lyrics.
What the hell are they thinking about there at Harmonix?
It makes me wonder if whoever the people are that are selecting songs for the DLC are not secretly working for Activision behind the scenes to kill the game.
Despite all of their disclaimers it is completely inappropriate to put that kind of content into the game.
People with children and teens who play the game are not likely to find it to be amusing.
Of course since I know now I won't be buying it.


lolbrainwashedlol

[Meldlm]

I am simply saying that if they are trying to promote a relatively new game that is targeted at teens then maybe they should put a little more thought into the overt references to glamorizing the use of drugs.

Because if these songs weren't included in the game then teens would never been exposed to drugs, amiright?

Truth be told, "teens" have almost certainly been exposed to drugs in much more insidious ways before they ever picked up a guitar controller or microphone. It's up to parents to make sure that they make the right decisions once they are exposed, not keep them from being exposed. That's a losing battle, especially in a game featuring music from the late 60s and early 70s.

While I respect your right to not download these songs, I also think it's fairly close-minded to assume that any reference to a drug is "glamorizing" it. Casey Jones is far from glamorizing cocaine, it's a historic cautionary tale about drugs and the horrid effects they can have.

[Apples]

I thought sweet leaf was a tribute to the Canadian national flag. :(

[Destnaru]

By the way, I don't think the lyrics should be edited on any song.
I am completely opposed to that.
Leave them just as they are and don't try to halfass clean it up.
If the original lyrics has profanity or says "cocaine" or whatever then leave it in there.
Instead of radio editing the lyrics maybe they should be more selective about the kind of songs they are putting up there.
And by the way if a song has filthy lyrics or promotes drug use at least stipulate that in the description so I can make my decision to purchase it or not based on that.

[Destnaru]

lolbrainwashedlol
lolasificarewhatyouthinklol

[Joatmon]

I would hope in the interest of common sense that they wouldn't continue with offensive lyrics.

You should have seen the look on my neighbors face as he realized that his 8 year old daughter (Singing bloom) was about to sing "whore"...

The safer the game is, the longer it will last & it will have the broadest appeal, which of course means more income for HMX,

Yes, I am perfectly aware that an 8 year old doesn't qualify as a "T" (teen), but my daughter who is 16 does, and I don't like her singing about pot, cocaine, sex, & whores either..

Crap! I am turning into my parents!!

I have always appreciated music without all that crap in it more than the music WITH the crap in it. I LOVE Slayers MUSIC, I hate it not only when they "sing", but WHAT they sing as well. I would buy an all instrumental Slayer album!:D

[Meldlm]

And by the way if a song has filthy lyrics or promotes drug use at least stipulate that in the description so I can make my decision to purchase it or not based on that.

Or you could take 4 or 5 minutes out of your day and listen to the song on Youtube before you download it. Seeing as how you're so concerned about it.

[QueensoftheStoneAge]

It's 2008. Get with the times.

[Electric_Zen]

Dear Harmonix,

In the true spirit of Rock and Roll, please do not distribute any music that might challenge or offend anyone.

I look forward to the Wiggles pack on March 11th.

[Destnaru]

Or you could take 4 or 5 minutes out of your day and listen to the song on Youtube before you download it. Seeing as how you're so concerned about it.

I have to do that a lot anyway because there is no preview.
But at least you offer some intelligent advice.
:D

[Meldlm]

I think some of you folks have mistakenly purchased the wrong game. You were looking for "Christian based Polka Band"

*Points to the end of the aisle*

But seriously...they didn't just pick random words outa the air for the phrase "Sex, drugs, and Rock n Roll"

[dfjdejulio]

The safer the game is, the longer it will last & it will have the broadest appeal, which of course means more income for HMX

That doesn't follow at all -- look at the following GTA has.

There are plenty of people who very much like things that other people find offensive for some reason or another. This doesn't mean that all content must service the lowest common denominator.

The best path for Harmonix to take is probably, err on the side of "safe" songs for the tracks built into the game, and then offer a very wide variety of very clearly labeled downloadable content.

That way, folks who want to avoid swearing or drugs or violent or sexual or religious content can do so, and folks with more diverse tastes can obtain content they're interested in.

[Meldlm]

How come we didn't get a big ole Anti-Rape thread when Sex Type Thing by STP was released two weeks ago?

[CaptTrips]

the problem with censoring comes down to this issue

Why should I be censored for someone else? Why is it not my choice to be censored. I am a grown adult.

If a parent doesn't want their child to listen, hear, be exposed to anything certain thing(s), I have no issue with that, but I don't want to pay the price for it either...

I read a suggestion the other day that seemed like common ground. If a song is going to be censored, then release two version, a censored and non-censored version.

A company can't go wrong when it gives consumers choices...

[Destnaru]

That doesn't follow at all -- look at the following GTA has.

There are plenty of people who very much like things that other people find offensive for some reason or another. This doesn't mean that all content must service the lowest common denominator.

The best path for Harmonix to take is probably, err on the side of "safe" songs for the tracks built into the game, and then offer a very wide variety of very clearly labeled downloadable content.

That way, folks who want to avoid swearing or drugs or violent or sexual or religious content can do so, and folks with more diverse tastes can obtain content they're interested in.

Give this man a gold star.
They should hire you at Harmonix immediately as a consultant.

[Fee]

How come we didn't get a big ole Anti-Rape thread when Sex Type Thing by STP was released two weeks ago?

Well that is anti-rape song already, so and Anti Anti-Rape thread? would that be for Rape? lol :p

[angry_jonny]

How come we didn't get a big ole Anti-Rape thread when Sex Type Thing by STP was released two weeks ago?

We did. Well, maybe not that big, but there was a reaction. I had a problem with that song due to the POV: singer as rapist (and yes, I know it's anti-rape). I think it's a cool song and have no issue with it as art, I just prefer RB as lighter entertainment. And it's certainly a lot to ask of kids to "role shift" and understand the subtleties there. No problem, don't have to buy it.

But Casey Jones? Come on...the coke isn't glamorized (it's a warning), and it takes some digging/creativity to find the Lady in Red = barbiturates interpretation.

[bisq]

I'm sorry but I still don't see what the problem here is. Both Casey Jones and Truckin' refer to cocaine in their lyrics but in both cases it is in a negative light. The character in Casey Jones causes a huge accident (or at least it is implied by the lyrics) because of his negligence and in Truckin' right after they say 'livin on reds, vitamin C, and cocaine' the next line is 'all a friend can say is ain't it a shame'...

Just being upset about a word without any regard to context makes no sense (I'm not talking about profanity thats a whole other issue). Personally murder is more offensive to me than cocaine, but I doubt they would censor or avoid that word, especially if it was used in an anti-violence context.

[SlowGears]

Stop you guys are harshing my buzz. I hope that the song is on censored, a warning would also be a good ideal. That way people that have never heard the song before will know not to buy it if they are offended my certain things

[darknessmoon]

Cocain's a helluva drug...

Chappelle's show reference. NOICE.


In the March issue of OXM it listed the 4 packs to come out in march:They were off of the date of the NIN pack but we will see

Tue 03.04.08
At The Gates "Blinded By Fear" -master-
Evile "Thrasher" -master-
Haunted "Shadow World" -master-

Tue 03.11.08
Bad Company "Shooting Star" -cover-
Lynyrd Skynyrd "Simple Man" -master-
The Police "Message In A Bottle" -master-

Tue 03.18.08
NIN "March Of The Pigs" -master-
NIN "The Collector -master-
NIN "The Perfect Drug" -master-

Tue 03.25.08
Iron Maiden "Wrathchild" -cover-
Black Sabbath "Supernaut" -cover-
Metallica "Fuel" -master-

Um, are you lost?


Well there goes another week with no DLC for me because I am not going to buy music with drug related lyrics.
What the hell are they thinking about there at Harmonix?
It makes me wonder if whoever the people are that are selecting songs for the DLC are not secretly working for Activision behind the scenes to kill the game.
Despite all of their disclaimers it is completely inappropriate to put that kind of content into the game.
People with children and teens who play the game are not likely to find it to be amusing.
Of course since I know now I won't be buying it.

I think you bought the wrong game then. I think you meant to buy this game (http://www.target.com/Karaoke-Revolution-American-Encore-Bundle/dp/B0010B3PUA/sr=1-5/qid=1204325179/ref=sr_1_5/602-7942632-9260654?ie=UTF8&rh=k%3Aamerican%20idol%20video%20game&page=1), perhaps?

[DethBoxx]

Danger: Contains Thought Provoking Material!

[dfjdejulio]

I think you meant to buy this game (http://www.target.com/Karaoke-Revolution-American-Encore-Bundle/dp/B0010B3PUA/sr=1-5/qid=1204325179/ref=sr_1_5/602-7942632-9260654?ie=UTF8&rh=k%3Aamerican%20idol%20video%20game&page=1), perhaps?

NO (http://www.hellokittyonline.com/us/).

[SlowGears]

They got Hello Kitty Online that is so sweet. Screw RB I'm goign to play that from now on

[meltphace]

high on rogaine
problem solved.

[dfjdejulio]

They got Hello Kitty Online that is so sweet. Screw RB I'm goign to play that from now on

You can't. It's still in closed beta.

(In my defense with regard to actually knowing that fact, I'll mention that the only character I like is Badtz Maru.)

[DoomSong8]

Does this open the possibility of QOTSA's "Feel Good Hit of the Summer"?

[BhindBluEyes430]

By the way, I don't think the lyrics should be edited on any song.
I am completely opposed to that.
Leave them just as they are and don't try to halfass clean it up.
If the original lyrics has profanity or says "cocaine" or whatever then leave it in there.
Instead of radio editing the lyrics maybe they should be more selective about the kind of songs they are putting up there.
And by the way if a song has filthy lyrics or promotes drug use at least stipulate that in the description so I can make my decision to purchase it or not based on that.

Cocain isent prfanity . **** is profanity but I got bleeped for it lol.

really you think a song about drugs is filthy. Even one denouning drug use (dont think it is but anyway) Ive never herd somebody say those two words in the same sentance. It dosent matter. Really it dosen't Drugs arent filthy their stupid. and smart people stay away from them.

[RavagerX]

You should have seen the look on my neighbors face as he realized that his 8 year old daughter (Singing bloom) was about to sing "whore"...

I have always appreciated music without all that crap in it more than the music WITH the crap in it. I LOVE Slayers MUSIC, I hate it not only when they "sing", but WHAT they sing as well. I would buy an all instrumental Slayer album!:D

I am so sorry, but I found what is in bold hilarious...then I felt bad. I read it again, and once again broke out in laughter....then felt bad again. Sorry....it's just the visual that I get.

I agree with you on Slayer definitely.

Anyway, from my point of view....the game is for teens....anyone younger probably shouldn't play, and if teenagers and up play, no doubt they have heard worse lyrics long before this game.

[Gryffindor]

<snip> no doubt they have heard worse lyrics long before this game.

I'd be willing to bet they've heard worse out of their own parent's mouths.:D

[darknessmoon]

You can't. It's still in closed beta.

(In my defense with regard to actually knowing that fact, I'll mention that the only character I like is Badtz Maru.)

Lol...


I'd be willing to bet they've heard worse out of their own parent's mouths.:D

Heh, you'd be surprised at the kind of things kids these days say (pre-middle school to middle school age)! :eek:

[ToradtheIdiot]

Heh, you'd be surprised at the kind of things kids these days say (pre-middle school to middle school age)! :eek:

Ever been called a b*tch-ass motherf*cker by a kindergartener? I have. Whole group of them, actually.

If you're personally offended by even the name of drugs, that's one thing, but if you consider yourself a "moral crusader" for the good of the children, you need to really re-examine kids today.

There are far worse contexts to hear about cocaine than Casey Jones. In fact, if you want to try experimenting with parenting, I think it'd be an interesting way to introduce a(n older) child into the concept of drugs, with music. They hear it, either know what it means or doesn't, in either case you have a discussion, which is scientifically proven to be better than an edict. Sweet Leaf might be a better song for this actually, but my point remains.

Responsible parenting isn't a list of "Do's and Don't's", it's an active conversation wherein the parent(s) help the child understand new concepts (even the scary ones) that WILL enter their life before you expect it to, and develop mature and thought-out opinions on them.

[HauntingYourKids]

I don't think they'll censor anything. They've had songs that use the words b*tch, g**damn, and isn't "Sex Type Thing" basically about rape? Hey, rape is said in a bunch of other songs, too! And in "Blackened," vocalists will infamously remember singing "See our mother put to death/ See our mother die." Mother is probably a metaphor for something, but that's still a disturbing lyric to sing out loud. So "Driving that train high on cocaine" should be okay.

[Teh_Nfsjunkie91]

Just to let you know, the "Mother put to death/See our mother die" refers to "Mother Earth," or so the song makes it seem. (Color our world blackened etc.)

[Dr._Rock]

I always thought mother refered to the woman whom gave birth to you.

[Fee]

Who you think gives birth to life now? Mother Earth.

[obnoxious_xb]

its rock, get over it. :cool:

[Dr._Rock]

I always took the lyric literaly, whitch I thought was pretty metal.
I guess it probably does mean mother earth, wich is no less metal,

[SlowGears]

As we can see by the lyrics Mother Earth is mentioned right off the bat. Now what happens is some people do not know these songs that well, so the assume the worst. :D


Blackened is the End
Winter it will send
Throwing all you see
Into obscurity

Death of Mother Earth
Never a rebirth
Evolution's end
Never will it mend

Never...!

FIRE
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead,
Blackened--is the--End!
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead,
Color our world Blackened!

Blistering of Earth
Terminate its worth
Deadly Nicotine
Kills what might have been

Callous frigid chill
Nothing left to kill
Never seen before
Breathing nevermore

Never...!

FIRE
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead,
Blackened--is the--End!
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead,
Color our world Blackened!

BLACKENED.

Opposition (opposition)...Contradiction (contradiction)...Premonition (premonition)...Compromise
Agitation (agitation)...Violation (violation)...Mutilation (mutilation)...Planet Dies
Darkest Color,
Blistered Earth,
True Death of Life.
Termination (termination)....Expiration (expiration)...Cancellation (cancellation)...Human Race
Expectation (expectation)...Liberation (liberation)...Population (population)...Lay to Waste
See our Mother
Put to death
See our Mother die

Smouldering decay
Take your breath away
Millions of our years
In minutes disappears

Darkening in vain
Decadence remains
All is said and done
Never is the sun

Never...!

FIRE
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead,
Blackened--is the--end!
To begin whipping Dance of the Dead....
FIRE
Is the outcome of hypocrisy,
Darkest--poten-CY!
In the exit of hu-ma-ni-ty,
Color our world Blackened!

BLACKENED.

[Dr._Rock]

While I always Knew the song was about nuclear war, I thought it was totaly metal to put in a reference to whatching your mother die.
What's up with the Nicotine reference??

[SlowGears]

Well this song is basically a song about how we are killing the planet,and are selfs. Once it is gone there is no getting it back.

[Dr._Rock]

Cool. We've gotten way off the subject of this thread.

[lymph]

The Perfect Drug Trent Reznor sings about is Absinthe, a mild hallucinagen.

[Frederf]

Stupid bored 16 year olds. They get excited over anything drug related in much the same manner that younger folks get excited over new Pokemon characters and older folks get excited about soap opera stars' lives.

The "drugs are cool" people are the same idiots that brag about how they got D's and F's on their report cards. It's just a cry for attention. Am I supposed to be impressed that you're altering your brain chemistry? No.

[Ventura]

Why should I be censored for someone else? Why is it not my choice to be censored. I am a grown adult.

I'm with you mate.

Why should I have to babysit someone else's kid just because some guy with an 8 year old daughter let his guard down? What do I care? If some of these people crying out for censorship did a better job parenting (and it is their job, not mine), it wouldn't be a problem.

Like somone else said, just release two versions, or - god forbid - some of these so-called parents actually check out the content first before deciding if they deem it appropriate or not.

[Dr._Rock]

It's a T rated game!!! Why release 2 versions??? If some jack leg doesn't want his childern exposed to drug references and corse language then he souldn't let his kids play this damned game!!!!!

[Maggot_Brain]

"Ridin' the train, high on -silence-?" That would totally suck. Wouldn't buy it, I think. This censorship stuff is going too far.

[yur0wnstupidity]

i think they may, but they may not at the same time.... in welcome home they say "youre a whore in sheeps clothing ****ing up all i do" but in RB welcome home its changes to "youre a wolfe in sheeps clothing mocking up all i do" which if they get rid of whore they may get rid of a drug reference, but on the other hand in 1 song (cant remember the name) they dont censore ass...

[Maggot_Brain]

It doesn't explain "Nature is a whore" in In Bloom.

[jonzes]

I look forward to the Wiggles pack on March 11th.

THOSE GUYS ARE FREAKS!!!! WON"T ANYONE THINK OF THE CHILDREN???

[jonzes]

The Perfect Drug Trent Reznor sings about is Absinthe, a mild hallucinagen.

Small niggle, the song is obviously a love song about mutual dependence. It's a metaphor. In the VIDEO he drinks some absinthe but that is because it was considered very edgy back in the 90s, if the song was actually about him thinking absinthe was the 'perfect drug' that would be pretty lame wouldn't it?

I doubt the song will be censored, there game is rated teen and I don't think the word 'cocaine' will violate that in any way.

In this case I am very glad that MTV & HMX are companies interested in making money because that means they will not listen to the anti-sex-drugs&rocknroll folks on this board. The same folks were burning records in the 60s and putting labels on CDs in the 90s, they believe that ignorance is bliss but great art cannot be made in a straightjacket.

Not that Casey jones is necessarily great art but it is a fun song :)

[CyN1caL]

i think they may, but they may not at the same time.... in welcome home they say "youre a whore in sheeps clothing ****ing up all i do" but in RB welcome home its changes to "youre a wolfe in sheeps clothing mocking up all i do" which if they get rid of whore they may get rid of a drug reference, but on the other hand in 1 song (cant remember the name) they dont censore ass...

The master of Welcome Home is a "single" master, same for Creep. The words are changed, by the original artist, for better radio play.

Speaking of which, the song itself (Welcome Home) is about the character The Writer, believing his girlfriend cheated on him, and how he plans to drag her through a graveyard by her hair, while she is bound in ropes, and bury her alive. Clearly, it's a song for kids. :p

As for Casey Jones, I'm betting the line will be censored, simply because it's a flat out statement.

[ClassicCarraway]

Don't forget, they released Sex Type Thing a couple of weeks ago, which is more or less about rape, so I'm thinking the phrase "high on cocaine" is the least of their worries :D

Mature lyrics and themes FTW!

[XShagrath]

While I'm not interested in the Grateful Dead pack, it does bring up an interesting topic. I know they censored the "****" out of the Garbage DLC, which kind of sucks. Isn't there a way (at least on the 360) to make DLC have an 'M' rating, and therefore no "child" accounts would have access to it? I know there's a couple f-bombs in one of the Thrash pack songs, and I'd hate for those to be censored out.

I totally understand Harmonix's stance with the disc-based content, as they needed to hit the widest range of potential customers, and 'T' was the right match there. However, with DLC, I'd rather they either marked some of it 'M' and alienated some of their userbase (which they probably don't want to do), or just release songs with no profanity at all.

[EvilMonkey236]

honestly, there is no reason to censor songs unless its a game that kindergardeners play, but if someone is over 7, they atleast heard the words, whore, cocaine, pot and many other offensive words already

[Chris_Gonzalez]

I think they shouldn't censor Casey Jones. It'd be a shame. I mean, it's Casey Jones for Christ's sake! Leave "High on cocaine" in there!

There's worse stuff on prime time TV, on the radio, and ESPECIALLY said in school. I have heard (and said) much worse things than "cocaine" in the school hallways, and I'm in 10th grade.

I'm pretty sure that "cocaine" doesn't violate the T-Rating anyway, but I'm not sure. I'll look into the specifics later, maybe.

[gunner07]

"We care a lot about the smack and crack and whack that hits the streets"

Same difference.

[Gryffindor]

From the ESRB website: http://www.esrb.org/ratings/ratings_guide.jsp


TEEN
Titles rated T (Teen) have content that may be suitable for ages 13 and older. Titles in this category may contain violence, suggestive themes, crude humor, minimal blood, simulated gambling, and/or infrequent use of strong language.

Rock Band MTV Games T Lyrics, Mild Suggestive Themes

Lyrics - Mild references to profanity, sexuality, violence, alcohol or drug use in music
Suggestive Themes - Mild provocative references or materials

[Keebler]

I'm against drugs completely, but I'm not warped enough to think they should remove references to drugs or not choose certain songs based on they fact that they are about drugs. Guess what people? Some of that is actually good music. And drugs are (sadly) a significant part of rock's history. I see no reason to censor the songs, especially considering what you hear on the radio.

[DethBoxx]

thought it was totaly metal to put in a reference to whatching your mother die.

You should listen to the song 'Am I Evil?' then.


What's up with the Nicotine reference??



Yeah that reference makes no sense at all and makes him sound a bit dumb LOL

[CaptTrips]

isn't Casey Jones about a famous or infamous guy name Casey Jones in the 1900's that was linked to a train wreck, that is still still honoured today...

[Groghunter]

Obligatory Bill Hicks Quote:

If you don't believe drugs have done good things for us, then go home and burn all your records, all your tapes, and all your CDs because every one of those artists who have made brilliant music and enhanced your lives? RrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrEAL ****ing high on drugs. The Beatles were so ****ing high they let Ringo sing a few songs.

Personally, I'm hoping that if they're putting "Casey Jones" of all songs, in the game, that it's uncensored. I'd rather not have the song, than have a song with twenty words in it deprived of one. Especially the defining the word of the song.

Oh, and reality check? I gonna have to call BS on the Grateful Dead being sincere about the antidrug message of this song. I'd call it more of a "anti-overuse" song.

[angry_jonny]

Oh, and reality check? I gonna have to call BS on the Grateful Dead being sincere about the antidrug message of this song. I'd call it more of a "anti-overuse" song.

Agreed. Though coke is hardly a Dead-like drug, so not much of a stance at all for them to take. Think of the tragic loss to the music world had Casey Jones dropped acid before driving that train....

;)

[Quinarvy]

I don't think it needs to be censored, whats the worst that could happen?

Jack Thompson saying that Rock Band is telling people to go out and drive trains while being high on cocaine.

[Focker420]

i think they may, but they may not at the same time.... in welcome home they say "youre a whore in sheeps clothing ****ing up all i do" but in RB welcome home its changes to "youre a wolfe in sheeps clothing mocking up all i do" which if they get rid of whore they may get rid of a drug reference, but on the other hand in 1 song (cant remember the name) they dont censore ass...

in In Bloom they say "nature is a whore" or somethin like that... yet they wont say it in welcome home... but they are refering to 2 different types of whore...

[akspiderman]

They did blank out the F-bomb on Sabotage. In the "thorn in my side" line.

[fried_blowney]

I'm not surprised. Leaving an F-Bomb uncensored would probably easily cause an M rating with the game which = bad as far as HMX is concerned.

[Groghunter]

Jack Thompson saying that Rock Band is telling people to go out and drive trains while being high on cocaine.

This is only funny because it's exactly the type of thing Jack Thompson would do. ROFL :D He would especially ignore the fact that the song had been around longer than he's had a law degree.

[Focker420]

wow... its amazing how close minded so many ppl are... look they are words... its not like its an actual drug that hmx is handing out to u... im amazed at how butt hurt and upset ppl get when somebody says something "bad"... its not like somebodys telling ur kids to go out and mass murder a bunch of ppl... plus for the guy that saw his 8 yr old or whatever sing whore... if u actually knew the term they were referring to then u would've realised its not a big deal... (they werent talking about a hooker).... also a bunch of drugs arent bad(they are if u abuse them)... but the stuff u get from ur local doctor could screw u up wayy worse... notice all the prescription adds on tv that have side effects of stroke heart attack or death... i doubt a couple of words are gonna do that... PEOPLE!! there are way worse things u need to worry about than shielding ur kids from some words... a word isnt gonna smack ur kid in the face and make em cry... so stop being such pansies and educate ur kids about the REAL world...

[Andyx1337]

wow... its amazing how close minded so many ppl are... look they are words... its not like its an actual drug that hmx is handing out to u... im amazed at how butt hurt and upset ppl get when somebody says something "bad"... its not like somebodys telling ur kids to go out and mass murder a bunch of ppl... plus for the guy that saw his 8 yr old or whatever sing whore... if u actually knew the term they were referring to then u would've realised its not a big deal... (they werent talking about a hooker).... also a bunch of drugs arent bad(they are if u abuse them)... but the stuff u get from ur local doctor could screw u up wayy worse... notice all the prescription adds on tv that have side effects of stroke heart attack or death... i doubt a couple of words are gonna do that... PEOPLE!! there are way worse things u need to worry about than shielding ur kids from some words... a word isnt gonna smack ur kid in the face and make em cry... so stop being such pansies and educate ur kids about the REAL world...

educate ur kids, 4 a bettar 2morrow.
Message paid by the educate ur kids and by Focker420, INC.

[Quinarvy]

This is only funny because it's exactly the type of thing Jack Thompson would do. ROFL :D He would especially ignore the fact that the song had been around longer than he's had a law degree.

He said that the NIU shootings were the result of the shooter playing a mass murder simulator called Counter-Strike.

Tried same thing with the Virginia Tech shooting, except that kid liked books and his friends said he rarely played video games.

[fried_blowney]

Video games don't cause people to do s*** like that. Their f***ed-up minds do, and everyone blames something else.

[Focker420]

educate ur kids, 4 a bettar 2morrow.
Message paid by the educate ur kids and by Focker420, INC.

idk if ur bein a smartass or what but that was funny...

[krammkracker]

Enough arguing, on with the topic....

Censorship is evil!!

Hasn't anyone ever read "Fahrenheit 451"

Get a grip people!

[Focker420]

lol... no i havent read it but i want to... oh and thanks to hmx for not censoring the GD songs...

[Apples]

The thing that sort of irks me is that they bleeped out "drugs" in Complete Control but left the same references in this pack, and "goddamn" in El Scorcho.

It seems inconsistent.

[Grey Fox]

I've always been of the opinion that censorship ruins the subject matter. They can put ESRB ratings on DLC on LIVE can't they?

[bonethug0108]

The thing that sort of irks me is that they bleeped out "drugs" in Complete Control but left the same references in this pack, and "goddamn" in El Scorcho.

It seems inconsistent.

I think it may be that they may have had to get a censored version of complete control for other reasons and that version had drug cut out, whereas the grateful dead songs and el scorcho are uncensored versions(as far as I can tell).

And back then drug was probably one of the censored words, so all copies of a censored complete control had drug taken out.

That's my take on it.

[yelladog32]

While I always Knew the song was about nuclear war, I thought it was totaly metal to put in a reference to whatching your mother die.
What's up with the Nicotine reference??

The only thing I can guess is that it refers to some sort of addiction...



EDIT: Maps is considered 'explicit'. Check it out on iTunes. ;)

[amnb]

i hope the pta hears the songs

[Ridlyblade]

I hate censorship, the PMRC and all things of that nature, AND I'M A PARENT.

...But I fully accept the responsibility to teach my daughters about things like drugs and promiscuity as I feel it becomes relevant. The world wasn't meant to be sheltered from it's meant to be experienced.

But on a lighter note, I'm definately sitting my kids down when they turn 12 and making them watch Requiem For a Dream. That should definately teach them that drugs are bad.