A question to those who know Punk

[benjamin]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?

[damnfinecat]

What do you want it to sound like? Like, classic punk like The Sex Pistols, 80s hardcore like Bad Brains, or 90s pop-punk like NOFX?

[benjamin]

I answered that question in my second paragraph.

[charlieboy123]

I really enjoy punk music and listen to it daily. i would say that political punk is badass and should give it a try, but if thats not your thing then try something fun like operation ivy, or rancid. but it you ever give hardcore punk music like career soldiers or casualties try, just give it a minute and im sure you'll like it.

[benjamin]

Rancid is pretty political. Really, they are very similar to the Clash. But I like Rancid more than The Clash.

[BlingShyne2]

Rancid are a bunch of pussies dude.

All these new douches ride around in tour busses selling records and all this other **** that dick wads feed them when they dont even write there own ****.

Sex pistols and violent femmes and those pop-punk-wanna-bes also suck, i mean, who the hell listens to that kind of ****?

Lame ass green spike mohawk ****s. thats who.

You want some punk? Listen to Black Flag, Minor Flag or SSD man, and if you want some current **** check out municipal waste. There the thrash kings of this era.

NOFX is alright, but Wolves in Wolves clothing was really REALLY lame as hell, coming from guys who wrote "Stickin in my eye" and "linoleum", there going the way of green day very fast.

[damnfinecat]

NOFX went the way of Greenday with their first album :/

Honestly, if you only break it down to stuff that sounds like the Sex Pistols, I'm not going to be able to help you.

[benjamin]

Why not? I just want angry music without all the politics of The Clash, or the Dead Kennedys, or Anti-Flag.

Boring.

[charlieboy123]

rancid has been around fools
and if you want real **** dont listen to Nofx
putting Nofx over rancid is basically saying you are ******ed, but Minor THREAT is good. Anti flag can been good but sounds to girly at times
im still saying hardcore **** as in casualties and career soldiers is bad ass

[Capt_SexyPants]

If you want Sex Pistols style stuff, just go to Punk77 (http://www.punk77.co.uk). That will have links, with soundfiles to most UK 77 'style bands. I would suggest X-Ray Spex, The Slits, Eater. However, I would like to also suggest you check out the Hardcore bands from the early eighties, as that really exemplified punk for me. Most 77 bands were art students, and their music is varied. Hardcore was fast, loud and angry. Start with the big names (Black Flag, Minor Threat, Bad Brains) and filter your way through to the more unknown stuff. It's great. I'd tell you to scope out Crust and Grindcore, but I doubt it'd be your thing.

[flclrocks07]

I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

Yeah that's an oxymoron. Punk was created to be political. If you want to get technical anything that isn't in your face about political injustice and the advancement of anarchy (which I don't condone by the way) isn't true Punk. I for one have no problem with any of Punk's many incarnations but if you are just getting into it I would suggest some Agent Orange, Operation Ivy, Rancid, and if you want some light hearted Pop-Punk try anything from Sum 41, blink 182's earlier stuff, and the earlier Green Day. Pshew. That enough for ya? :p

[benjamin]

How about this, I don't want the extreme left wing and whiny Punk music of bands like The Clash, or even more so, the Dead Kennedy's.

I like the anarchistic music of The Sex Pistols, I like nihilism, where they are just against everything. But I hate the left wing stuff.

[Jbla05]

Two words....The Ramones.

[3kage3]

The Ramones and Mike V and the Rats

[3kage3]

ya dead kennedys too california uber allies

[Comrade_pabs]

I dont consider the clash to be too political.Much of their music described how hard it was growing up in london during the 70's.Back then it was hard to find work and many young people grew disillusioned with what the future could hold.Thats my opinion though if you still feel the same about them thats fine.

[Comrade_pabs]

I forgot something! If you want to listen to a real good punk band give The germs a try

[3kage3]

*sob*all the ramones are dead now

[benjamin]

When did Marky Ramone die? Did it happen recently? I would have thought I would have heard about that.

[Comrade_pabs]

wait marky isnt dead...is he?

[SoraRikuVGM]

All of the Ramones (including temps) are alive except Dee Dee, Johnny, and Joey.

[3kage3]

my sis told me this she listens to them all the time and she would know this stuff

[rosie_187]

Of course all the Ramones would be dead if Mr Burns hadn't mistaken them for the Rolling Stones.

[benjamin]

my sis told me this she listens to them all the time and she would know this stuff

Ask you sister to name 5 of their songs.

[Seattle_Sound]

The Germs kick ass, Darby Crash was a great frontman.

[jmccabe1978]

you could give the Meatmen,MDC, Negative Approach,the Necros, the Misfits, GG Allin a try

[SoraRikuVGM]

my sis told me this she listens to them all the time and she would know this stuff

Well your sister is an idiot if she thinks every Ramone is dead.

[darthrick10]

not sure this is what your looking for but these are my top 10 punk bands



1. The Clash
2. MC5
3. The Ramones
4. The Sex Pistols
5. The Stooges
6. Dead Kennedys
7. Fugazi
8. Black Flag
9. The Misfits
10. Bad Brains

[Hastyl3]

if you're looking for some GOOD punk i'd go with the offspring: the kids aren't alright, americana, all i want, genocide, want you bad, pretty fly for a white guy, why don't you get a job?, original prankster, and come out and play.

[Seattle_Sound]

Early Husker Du......

[newwaytodie]

Anti-Nowhere League... lol thats about as nihlistic as they come eh?

[WildWalker]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?


God Save the Queen - Caused outrage, was banned by all radio stations and was considered by politians to be a direct attack on the monarchy.

Anarchy in the UK - This song mentions several policital oraganisations of the time, comparing them to the UK (MPLA, UDA and IRA)

Pretty Vacant - Again seen as an attempt to pollute society with its language, Va-cant was sung with emphasis on the 'cant' part, it was said to be sung to sound like '****' (sorry about the language) so Vaaaaaa'****'


Dude, they were very political, and the reason was that at that time the goverment were easy targets, there were strikes galore with the unions seeming running the show, and the pistols reflected this feeling in their songs.

WW

[Desensitized]

The Descendents
The Replacements
Screeching Weasel

Some of the best non-political punk ever written.

[XeR182ReX]

The Weirdos - "We Got the Neutron Bomb"

...oh wait.

:p

[zeefeet]

Misfits!!!!!!!!!!!

[midfielder7]

Here are some of my favorite punk bands...excluding some that you already said you aren't interested in.

Bad Religion
The Casualties
The Misfits
NOFX
The Ramones
Stiff Little Fingers
The Unseen

[Shneybz]

Husker Du my friend is an amazing punk/alt band.
Minor Threat (even though they are political) they are great
Bad Brains
The Misfits
The Stooges (old but awesome)
Iggy Pop
Fugazi
X
MC5
Mudhoney (they fall into grunge, but grunge is a form of punk)

theres a lot more but those are great starts

[FalseReality]

Blink-182
Iggy and the Stooges
Rage Against the Machine
Bad Religion
Pennywise
Green Day
Say Anything(not complete punk, but some of their underground songs are punk, but their album songs are good, creative, and well different)

Misfits

[Frankenlife]

Let's see here.....

X
The Buisness
The Vandals
Slaughter and the Dogs
999
Major Accident
Black Flag
The Misfits
The Adicts
The Dead Boys
Clit 45
Lower Class Brats
Cock Sparrer
The Buzzcocks
Swingin' Utters
Christ On A Crutch
No Use For A Name
GBH
Oxymoron
Final Conflict

That is all for now.

[Frankenlife]

Blink-182
Iggy and the Stooges
Rage Against the Machine
Bad Religion
Pennywise
Green Day
Say Anything(not complete punk, but some of their underground songs are punk, but their album songs are good, creative, and well different)

Misfits


Blink 182, Rage against the machine, pennywise, and greenday are not punk.

A band calling itself punk doesn't make them punk. Elton John could call himself punk all day long, and it wouldn't be true.

[Desensitized]

But The Vandals are punk? Please.

I like The Vandals, but Green Day and Pennywise are just as much punk as they are.

[SpeedMetal09]

Municipal Waste(little more on metal side)....Monster Squad....Lower Class Brats....Leftover Crack...Clit45

[StartSomething]

Blink-182
Iggy and the Stooges
Rage Against the Machine
Bad Religion
Pennywise
Green Day
Say Anything(not complete punk, but some of their underground songs are punk, but their album songs are good, creative, and well different)

Misfits

Learn what Punk is please

[karlkaza]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?
Try blink-182
If you like them:D :mad:

[BlingShyne2]

Municipal Waste

DUDE **** YEAH! Finally someone who's heard of them!

Municipal waste is definetely my favorite thrash band ever! I saw them like 4 times last year with GWAR's beyond hell tour!

I mean, they have a song called "The Thrashin' of the Christ", how can you not love that?

[Desensitized]

And learn that there are different kinds of punk.
Like pop-punk?

[xtcdukes]

Why not? I just want angry music without all the politics of The Clash, or the Dead Kennedys, or Anti-Flag.

Boring.

Uh....that's kind of the spirit of punk. Most true punk/hardcore is very political. Take that out and you're left with pop music under the guise of punk.

[Rockerman]

how about some classic punk from The Ramones?

[OliverTwisted]

If you want angry music just ask people to suggest some angry music, don't put that "I want punk but nothing from punk bands" crap. And everyone needs to stop trying to define punk. Punk is whatever the hell it wants to be. Labeling it kinda defeats the purpose.

[Phrank-E]

Slayer, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies. Not "Punk" the way you think.. But rooted in punk.

Also Motorhead. Half Rockabilly, Half Punk with a sprinkling of Metal...

[outofcontrol]

how about some bad religion?

[Desensitized]

Uh....that's kind of the spirit of punk. Most true punk/hardcore is very political. Take that out and you're left with pop music under the guise of punk.
Just like The Ramones.

Good punk isn't always political.

[idiotec]

I think the Decedents fits your request the most. Maybe the Exploited as well.

[Simonious]

The Misfiiiiiiiii
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*coughs*
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The Misfits.

And Bad Religion too. If you're not too big on the whole political thing, though, listen to their earlier stuff and nothing but.

[ConsoleCoWBoY]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?

Non political punk?... Why not try: The Dead Milkmen (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1HN3DXBoBAw), The Circle Jerks (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yuH6UnNIfDY), The Plasmatics (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QKXE6HrhMak), or Iggy Pop (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4hPnZUMBwA)? :D That's what I listened to "in the day"! :D

[cmg4894]

Minor Threat are always great


Greg Sage and The Wippers

[Elvis_L]

I say misfits, dead milkmen (not angry but funny), fugazi, Minor threat, black Flag. maybe not your thing but Bad Religion is great

[ziggy stardust]

My favorite punk bands:
Black Flag
Minor Threat
Sex Pistols
Buzzcocks
Dead Kennedys
Damned
Clash
The Jam
Richard Hell
Television
Velvet Underground

[lexiconfrasier]

The Germs, Black Flag, T.S.O.L. (their early stuff with Jack Grisham, nothing after Jack left), Circle Jerks, Adolescents and stuff like that.

[switchfootfan95]

i love punk music and some of my favorite bands include the dead milk men, the ramones, the sex pistols, bad religion, dead kennedy's, butthole surfers so if you want to listen to some, thats what i would recomend. hope it helps

[drummerboymiked]

i know some punk bands
blink182
rancid
jimmy eat world
the acro brats

[Ritualistic]

FEAR
Bones brigade
Lower Class Brats
The adicts
The Krays

[sickdaddy]

19 Limbs. Your mom's favorite band (http://www.19limbs.com)

The Accused (http://www.myspace.com/kingsofsplatter)

Poison Idea (http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=74439043)

and of course....

G G Allin (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GG_Allin)

[lucifer vandross]

this might be off topic, but the kid was saying he hates the "left wing" punk... but i mean punk is all about being against the establishemnt and it started in the reagan era. I mean that's why it's "leftist". What's wrong with left anyway? I have a friend who was so halloween punk in high school and he's the son of a hardcore rightest and he follows that lean and it's like, why be punk then? it's like stewie singing "establishment" at woodstock.

Anyway also off topic, but has anyone else read Hairstyles of the Damned? Great

[ZeroTheHero]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?

Try The Adolecents, Circle Jerks, and Dead Kennedys

[zepplinmike]

this might be off topic, but the kid was saying he hates the "left wing" punk... but i mean punk is all about being against the establishemnt and it started in the reagan era. I mean that's why it's "leftist". What's wrong with left anyway? I have a friend who was so halloween punk in high school and he's the son of a hardcore rightest and he follows that lean and it's like, why be punk then? it's like stewie singing "establishment" at woodstock.

Anyway also off topic, but has anyone else read Hairstyles of the Damned? Great


IMO, you can just like how the music sounds and not necessarilly agree with the politics of it. I get what you're saying though when it comes to going all out with the dressing punk thing and all that. Taking on the image kind of declares that you agree with the politics of punk.

Anyways, I'm pretty conservative, but for my money, punk music doesn't get better than the Clash. Their music was well written, and I never found much of their message to be too offensive or controversial or whatever to my sensibilities, whether I agreed with them or not.

[Gouivel]

Dirty Rotten Imbeciles

[Gouivel]

Anyways, I'm pretty conservative, but for my money, punk music doesn't get better than the Clash. Their music was well written, and I never found much of their message to be too offensive or controversial or whatever to my sensibilities, whether I agreed with them or not.

That Is Not The Point Of Punk

[sickboy1138]

Motor City 5 - political
The Stooges
The New York Dolls
The Ramones
Television
The Dead Boys
The Cramps
THE MISFITS
The Meteors - psychobilly, but still great punk - sounds ike theyd be the bastard sons of the misfits/cramps

and while poitcal awareness and punk go together I dont think they're inseperable

as cheesy as it sounds.. look it up on Wiki. they have an impressive history of Punk
and its MANY sub-genres. youre bound to find bands youll like

[osirisbunnyfoofoo]

Not that this needs to be said, but you can't go wrong with the big four.

Sex Pistols
Ramones
The Clash
The Stooges

And punk definitely doesn't get any better than The Clash. If you want something that sounds more punk-ish than London Calling (which I hardly consider punk at all), go with their first self-titled album and Give 'Em Enough Rope.

[voodoo idol]

Stiff Little Fingers
Rancid
Subhumans
UK Subs
Black Flag
X
Agent Orange
Dead Kennedeys
Avengers
The Dils
Zero Boys
Black Market Baby
Gang Green
Government Issue
Dag Nasty (only the Can I Say? record)
New York Dolls
Ramones
Johnny Thunders & the Heartbreakers
The Stooges
The Cramps
Dr. Know
FEAR

[voodoo idol]

How about this, I don't want the extreme left wing and whiny Punk music of bands like The Clash, or even more so, the Dead Kennedy's.

I like the anarchistic music of The Sex Pistols, I like nihilism, where they are just against everything. But I hate the left wing stuff.


Just so you know:

The Dead Kennedeys are to the US what the Sex Pistols were to the UK.

[Chr1sK]

The Toy Dolls (not angry but they'll run circles around anyone else to this day) , sham 69, Peter and the test tube babies for UK Punk

if you want raw, aggressive, staight up nasty rock n roll - go with G.G. Allin

[aplusjimages]

I have to say that I'm surprised at the list of punk bands on this thread. If you really want that angry music then go with what several people have suggested:

G.G. Allin

He's as angry as it gets. You should also watch his video Hated. Before there was 2girls1cup, there was G. G. Allin. I believe him when he said that if he wasn't in a band then he would be a serial murderer.

[YYZ2112RUSH]

I would suggest G.B.H. or the exploited there really raw, not to political.Just pissed off english punks.

[YYZ2112RUSH]

Slayer, DRI, Suicidal Tendencies. Not "Punk" the way you think.. But rooted in punk.

Also Motorhead. Half Rockabilly, Half Punk with a sprinkling of Metal...

Metal rooted in punk A.K.A. Thrash metal

[mikeoxbig]

Probably not quite what our looking for but you can't go wrong with Social D

[ddub]

Good suggestions and plenty to listen to. The only one I haven't seen mentioned is D.O.A. They are political, but definitely not like the clash.

[BecauseWeCan]

Early Bad Brains, Black Flag, Minor Threat, The Ramones, Television, Sham 69, The Exploited, The Buzzcocks, The Circle Jerks. Basically, go with anything that was relevant to the punk scene in the 77 or the hardcore scene.

[BecauseWeCan]

I have to say that I'm surprised at the list of punk bands on this thread. If you really want that angry music then go with what several people have suggested:

G.G. Allin

He's as angry as it gets. You should also watch his video Hated. Before there was 2girls1cup, there was G. G. Allin. I believe him when he said that if he wasn't in a band then he would be a serial murderer.

He was seriously screwed up and iconic, but in all honesty, he's an artist you have to grow accustomed to because he's so raw and unique. He's had so many bands because they ended up getting banned from everwhere, if not thrown in jail every night.

[Pancreas]

Punk in the UK grew out of the dissatisfaction with Thatcher-era Britain, and disillusionment with the rock genre as a whole at the time. It was a short-lived movement that spawned a lot of sub-genres of punk. Saying you want Sex Pistols-esque punk without the politics is kind of weird. Most of the punk from that era was politically motivated, whether it was the nihilism displayed by the Pistols, the far-left approach of the Clash, or the far-right Oi! sub-genre. A lot of you need to realize that punk has evolved and spawned a myriad of sub-genres since the mid-late 70s: new-wave, hardcore, grunge, pop-punk, etc to name a few. The Ramones pioneered pop-punk. Blink-182 is synonymous with 90's pop-punk, as is Green Day. Punk is now an umbrella term, as there isn't a lot of punk music that matches the original movement. That being said, I don't know how to help ya, the Sex Pistols were kind of in a class of their own (though correct me if I'm wrong). You'll probably want the likes of Anti-Flag (maybe even the Misfits, good old horror-punk).

[fighting69th]

Swingin' Utters, Cock Sparrer, The Damned, old Bad Religion

[BhindBluEyes430]

No better band than the only band that matters the clash. try giving everything a listen even if some of the clash dosent sound so punk its still amazing music

[gbvines]

I love the Sex Pistols and they're one of my least favorite punk bands. Listen to stuff from the 80's-90's.

[Flyboy0727]

I am looking for some Punk music to give a listen, but I am going to narrow the requirements just a little.

I am looking for some Punk that is similar to the style of the Sex Pistols, Raw, Incredibly pissed, and Nihilistic. I don't want the political punk of the Clash.

So does anyone have any recomendations?

The Adicts
The Toy Dolls
The Vibrators

[Pennsylvanian]

If nobody has said No Cash yet, then give them a listen. If you want something raw and angry, that's some of the best you'll get. Though they are a hardcore crack-rock band, the guitarist is surprisingly good. Warning though: The vocalist's voice can easily get on 95% of the world's nerves instantly.

[pinkbrassmonkey]

the sex pistols were a sorry mishmash of the misfits playing stooges songs. i mean, i like the misfits, and i lovee the stooges, but the pistols didn't have many good songs. bodies is good, but thats the only one that really sticks for me. the clash are gods. nihilists piss me off.

that said, maybe leftover crack is what you're looking for.

my shout outs go to:
clash
patti smith
gorilla biscuits
stooges
mc5
ramones
flogging molly(but i'm not sure why.)
and punchline

[Phybersyko]

Try out:

7 seconds
Bad Brains
the Misfits
Buzzcocks
the Dead Milkmen
the Exploited
Gang Of Four
the *****s
Cruci****s (might get censored by forums, Cruci-eff-you-sea-kay-ess, kinda political punk, but waaaay over the top)
the Jam
Public Image LTD.

[BhindBluEyes430]

Download I fought the law and Complete control for ROCk band you'll know punk

[radiju]

no need for the extreme cussing BlingShyne2. Minor THREAT by the way. and whats wrong with political punk? almost all good punk bands are political. ALMOST. anyways if you want some real punk listen to black flag, bad brains, dead kennedys, sham 69, the exploited, misfits, redemption 87, D.R.I, The Adicts, The Adolescents, Circle Jerks and if youre kinda into ska then there's no better ska-punk band then Operation Ivy.

[bassmasta727]

YEAH OP IVY!!!

Pre rancid...and better too!

Also Circle Jerks...

lmfao casualties arnt tru punk....i went to a concert...its fun untill u realize that all theyr music is tabbed as 3333---5555----3333----5555 and then all you can do is sit there and respect the punk drummer musicianship

to me grunge sounds a lot like old punk, not the best voice, lyrics with a meaning, simple guitar riffs to me bands like nirvana even tho they are categorized as grunge sound a lot like old punk and to me grunge is punk

[Pennsylvanian]

Download I fought the law and Complete control for ROCk band you'll know punk

A little more specifically, the version of I Fought the Law by The Clash, as the Bobby Fuller Four version (the original) is not exactly the most hardcore thing you'll come across.

[MattyJames]

I saw a few people here listed Circle Jerks and I would have to agree. It sounds like they would be the band that resembles what you are looking for the closest. I would recommend starting with "Group Sex" by them. Very solid album.

[rupert_giles]

The documentaries mentioned in this article might be of use to you:

http://www.gibson.com/en-us/Lifestyle/Features/Punk%20Rock%20Turns%2030_%20Time%20to%20Mo/

[Pennsylvanian]

Ah damn, just realized I missed this and laughed half to death. Figure this thread would be a good place to show it.

http://www.mitchclem.com/nothingnice/418/

[OldFogey]

A little more specifically, the version of I Fought the Law by The Clash, as the Bobby Fuller Four version (the original) is not exactly the most hardcore thing you'll come across.

Jeez dude it was 1964. That song rocked back then!

[King_Nuthin]

Jeez dude it was 1964. That song rocked back then!
Yep. Both versions are great. The Bobby Fuller Four version was a cover as well - the original actually dates back to 1959 and the Crickets post Buddy Holly (sure you knew that OF). DK also did a notable cover - reworking it into a tale about the infamous Twinkie Defense.

As for the original poster try FEAR. Nobody ever accused Lee Ving of being a pinko leftie, though there seems to be some debate as to whether it was all an act or the real deal for him.

[matty13]

UK Subs.

The Damned.

The Exploited.

Sick of it All (NJ hardcore).

BLACK FLAG.

All of these could give you the Sex Pistols-type thing you're looking for, but with a bit more talent.

[Rockbandfan23467]

Yep. Both versions are great. The Bobby Fuller Four version was a cover as well - the original actually dates back to 1959 and the Crickets post Buddy Holly (sure you knew that OF). DK also did a notable cover - reworking it into a tale about the infamous Twinkie Defense.


When you hear the Crickets version, it sounds like all they did was return a librairy book late. The Clash sound like actual criminals!

[BhindBluEyes430]

A little more specifically, the version of I Fought the Law by The Clash, as the Bobby Fuller Four version (the original) is not exactly the most hardcore thing you'll come across.

so its still amazing just because its not hardcore dosnet mean its not punk and it dosent mean it cant kick any harcore punk bands ass

And complete control has got to be one of the greatest punk songs ever.
or this :D

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[Pennsylvanian]

Hey, don't make me to be a Bobby Fuller hater, I'm just saying if they followed Minor Threat with some of their songs, there'd be a confused face or two.

[october5th]

Sex Pistols were political.

[fighting69th]

Sex Pistols were political.

Sex Pistols were manufactured and utter garbage. Puppets. Let's put out one record and have it be on a major label. Icons. Right!

[BhindBluEyes430]

It dosent matter if the Sex Pistols were good or not
they werent political they were Nhialists Meaning they sang about nothing but What was wrong with the world

The clash on the other had sang about ideas to help change the world

[fighting69th]

It dosent matter if the Sex Pistols were good or not
they werent political they were Nhialists Meaning they sang about nothing but What was wrong with the world

The clash on the other had sang about ideas to help change the world

Just want to let you know you have a great point. But Nihilistic? White Riot was that and more IMHO, though I know there were misunderstandings with that song. I agree the Clash were about positive change in the long run even though they sold out themselves. I am not a fan of either but your views are valid.

[BhindBluEyes430]

I dont think White riot was Nihilistic. it was more about how us white suburban kids Dont do anything we dont riot or care. and how we should take up arms for a cause. I guess you could say that because the line "And nobody wants to GO TO JAIL" Thats the only reason we dont fight anymore? boring ass teenagers. If only we had something to fight for now

Their only Nihilistic song i think would be london calling.


The ice age is coming, the sun is zooming in
Engines stop running and the wheat is growing thin
A nuclear error, but I have no fear
London is drowning-and I live by the river
still some of the most awsome lyrics

I dont think the clash ever sold themselves out even if they went more mainstream they were still the most devoted Band. I meanwhile strummer was being sent to the hospital he wouldent go until he signed every autograph and shook everyones hand

[fighting69th]

I dont think White riot was Nihilistic. it was more about how us white suburban kids Dont do anything we dont riot or care. and how we should take up arms for a cause. I guess you could say that because the line "And nobody wants to GO TO JAIL" Thats the only reason we dont fight anymore? boring ass teenagers. If only we had something to fight for now

Their only Nihilistic song i think would be london calling.


still some of the most awsome lyrics

I dont think the clash ever sold themselves out even if they went more mainstream they were still the most devoted Band. I meanwhile strummer was being sent to the hospital he wouldent go until he signed every autograph and shook everyones hand

I think as a whole, even though I am not a Clash fan, they are top notch. Influenced more than the Pistols by far and were genuine. The Pistols were the punk rock boy band IMO. McClaren was looking for the next NY Dolls

[Sayburr]

Punk, huh? OK, here is my list:

The Saints (Im Stranded)
The Jam (Snap)
Black Flag (Damaged)
The Damned (Damned x3)
X-Ray Specks (Germ Free Adolescents)
Patti Smith (Horses)
Stiff little Fingers (Inflammable Material)
Television (Marquee Moon)
The Wire (Pink Flag)
Suicide (Suicide)
Blondie (Blondie)
The Clash (any album)