Nooooooooooooooo!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[cooldude93]

I rencently discovered this game and when I went to find out who is on each of the five record lables I found out that one of them (Hollywood records) is the one doing all the dreadful, evil, terrible disney channel music. ...... That rotten music deserves no place in what is destined to be such a great hit like rockband.:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[BeckRokk]

Would you please care to elaborate?

[the_spike]

They aren't stupid. They won't put "disney channel" music in the game.

[c0nd0rd4myt]

i would also like to know where you figured this all out. Considering that disney has thier hands in every single cookie jar known to mand, its impossible to not hit them eventually.

[cooldude93]

I found all this out here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Band_%28video_game%29 and here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/777/777535p1.html

[Apoc29]

I'd say the potential for good music being in the game far outweighs any impact potentially bad music would have on the game.

[cooldude93]

I'd say the potential for good music being in the game far outweighs any impact potentially bad music would have on the game.

what do you mean

[c0nd0rd4myt]

that even though they do own a large collection of disney-ish bands, they also own rights and records for both Breaking Benjamin and Atreyu, which are far from being Disney.

oh and BTW, i wouldnt trust anything on a website that lets anyone edit the pages (aka wikipedia).

[Apoc29]

what do you mean

What I mean is you should trust the developers to put in songs that will actually be fun to play, and one or two 'Disney' songs (if they even decide to include them) won't ruin the game as a whole.

[Spraynwipe]

Hollywood Records also has artists like Queen too*, they're not all Cheetah Girls and other such non-Rock acts.

(*This is not a confirmation or denial of any songs in Rock Band, just an observation)

[cooldude93]

thats another reason Im dissapointed I cant beleive my favorite band queen is on the same record label as that trash

[c0nd0rd4myt]

thats another reason Im dissapointed I cant beleive my favorite band queen is on the same record label as that trash

a Rose by any other name would smell as sweet, or so they say. i really dont see why your gettin your drawars in a knot. who cares which bands are on what record label? its not like the people who own said labels are gonna dictate what songs are put into the game? personally i would be much more afraid of MTV trying to shove thier grubby fingers into the mix

[Hammertime80]

I found all this out here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rock_Band_%28video_game%29 and here http://ps3.ign.com/articles/777/777535p1.html

Wikipedia can be edited by anyone. They could say that Rock Band has been cancelled and get away with it until someone reverted the facts.

[cooldude93]

I have information from iGN too

[GNR962]

It doesn't matter what "information" that you get. Can't you trust Harmonix to put in good music. Don't you have faith in them? I sure as hell do and I trust them to put great music in here.



Also, I would be more worried with MTV. They got more bad music than anybody. I don't want any of that in RB.

[miketoast]

Yeah, Harmonix good, MTV bad!!!!

[cooldude93]

you right. I should beleive in harmonix They did a good job with the songs in the guitar hero games I shouldnt worry .thanx guys

[Bloodlust]

Fall Out Boy... Hannah Montana... Atreyu... Slipknot... It's all the same to me. More corporate manufactured pop music of their respective genres.

[flclrocks07]

YEAH BOIEEEEEEEEE!!!! MTV GONNA HOOK YOU UP WIT SOME FRESH BEATS FOR ROCK BAND!!!! WITH USHER, MARIAH CAREY, AVRIL LAVIGNE, AND SOME HARD ROCKIN N'SYNC, YOU'LL NEVER WANT TO STOP PLAYING. We now bring you back to your regularly scheduled life. Thank You.;)

[cooldude93]

YEAH BOIEEEEEEEEE!!!! MTV GONNA HOOK YOU UP WIT SOME FRESH BEATS FOR ROCK BAND!!!! WITH USHER, MARIAH CAREY, AVRIL LAVIGNE, AND SOME HARD ROCKIN N'SYNC, YOU'LL NEVER WANT TO STOP PLAYING. We now bring you back to your regularly scheduled life. Thank You.;)

are you being sarcastic?:confused:

[flclrocks07]

are you being sarcastic?:confused:

NO......I would NEVER joke about MTV's music prowess......(that's sarcasm for yes I'm being sarcastic) :rolleyes:

[SoraRikuVGM]

Honestly, do you think a loser like Corbin Bleu would be in? No, because we would behead him. :/

[hheemm]

I really hope they got Breaking Benjamin.

[cooldude93]

Honestly, do you think a loser like Corbin Bleu would be in? No, because we would behead him. :/

I agree:D :D :D

[c0nd0rd4myt]

Fall Out Boy... Hannah Montana... Atreyu... Slipknot... It's all the same to me. More corporate manufactured pop music of their respective genres.

corporate? perhaps. they are contacting the major record labels and so therefore those bands that are featured would probably be very popular (if you believe that popular automatically = corporate)

manufactured? doubtful, and at the very least it cant be proved by anything other than your own suspicions.

and for the record mate, Pop music IS its own genre (boy bands, generally lighter music and more oriented towards the vocals)

[VocalKnight]

It always cracks me up when people pride themselves on being "anti-establishment" when it comes to music. The whole "if it's popular then it must suck" mentality is just as narrow-minded as any stuffy record exec who only markets Britney-clones.

My rule for music - if it's good, I listen to it no matter where it came from. If it sucks, it sucks no matter where it came from. Then I don't waste time being an artificial rebel.

[sa_nick]

It always cracks me up when people pride themselves on being "anti-establishment" when it comes to music. The whole "if it's popular then it must suck" mentality is just as narrow-minded as any stuffy record exec who only markets Britney-clones.

My rule for music - if it's good, I listen to it no matter where it came from. If it sucks, it sucks no matter where it came from. Then I don't waste time being an artificial rebel.

I wouldn't say I'm against popular music, I just don't like any of it. I do hate it when bands come along and just go with whats popular. That stuff is usually done for money, or the band is trying to make it big and are force into doing music they don't like but know will sell.

The other problem with top 40 stuff is the fact that there's too much rap/r'n'b crap that all sounds exactly the same, all the songs feature singers from other songs, it pisses me off.

Oh, and popular artists that don't write their own lyrics pisses me off too. And if it's a band they HAVE to write their own music. I don't care how good it sounds, I just can't respect the artist and my principles take over and i wont like it.

BTW, what the hell is this thread about? Something about the disney channel?

[Smidget]

BTW, what the hell is this thread about? Something about the disney channel?

Piratez!!!!!!!! Argh!!!


(sorry, had to, not trying to post-whore XD )

[hmxsean]

The other problem with top 40 stuff is the fact that there's too much rap/r'n'b crap that all sounds exactly the same, all the songs feature singers from other songs, it pisses me off.


The thing about going to the Top 40 when you are looking for something you want to listen to is like going to McDonalds when you are really craving a nice steak. Does it have some tasty food here and there? Sure. Does it have what you are looking for? No. If it did have what you were looking for would you be a little suspect of their motives? Definitely.

I would say that people who aren't terribly passionate about music don't really care about listening to something that sounds "different" or "new". They are looking for something to play in the background of their lives that emphasizes their experiences but isn't an experience in and of itself. The top 40 is easy to find and does the job pretty well, that's why it is at the top. That's my belief, anyways.

[c0nd0rd4myt]

I would say that people who aren't terribly passionate about music don't really care about listening to something that sounds "different" or "new". They are looking for something to play in the background of their lives that emphasizes their experiences but isn't an experience in and of itself. The top 40 is easy to find and does the job pretty well, that's why it is at the top. That's my belief, anyways.

i think people who are "anti-establishment" or whatever you wanna call it, are extremely passionate and over-zealous. i'm no musician, but i love music. i allways have music going of some form, and i aint the least bit picky. one of my favorite bands, Hammerfall is by no means anything new or different. in fact its about 20 years behind the times because they play the older 80's style, Iron Maiden-ish Metal, and they do it with a deep D&D Fantasy theme to thier music. Marilyn Manson is often called a poor-mans Alice Cooper, and i couldnt give two ****s either way.

i am far more interested in the end product (I.E the actual MUSIC) than the process in it how it was made

[cooldude93]

It always cracks me up when people pride themselves on being "anti-establishment" when it comes to music. The whole "if it's popular then it must suck" mentality is just as narrow-minded as any stuffy record exec who only markets Britney-clones.

My rule for music - if it's good, I listen to it no matter where it came from. If it sucks, it sucks no matter where it came from. Then I don't waste time being an artificial rebel.

look i just hate rap and the disney channel and most mtv ....although i am very anti-establishment I dont hate them because they are popular i hate them because they are posers who suck and shouldnt be in rock band (or guitar hero )...I wont hate music because its popular I like some popular music like the red hot chili peppers and my chemical rommance but when its is crappy, unorginal,crap like rap and the disney channel and most mtv :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[cooldude93]

corporate? perhaps. they are contacting the major record labels and so therefore those bands that are featured would probably be very popular (if you believe that popular automatically = corporate)

manufactured? doubtful, and at the very least it cant be proved by anything other than your own suspicions.

and for the record mate, Pop music IS its own genre (boy bands, generally lighter music and more oriented towards the vocals) what are you saying ???:confused: :confused:

[c0nd0rd4myt]

that you can be part of the establishment and still be "true"

[cooldude93]

true to what (im sorry Im a little slow tonight )

[c0nd0rd4myt]

yourself, your music, your fans.

[vichnaiev]

Maroon 5. It's popular (both meanings, widely listened to and pop genre) and it does not sound generic (at least not all songs). Great bassist (the guy's got some groove), some good songs (ok, some really suck, but not all). You can't compare them to every crappy boy band out there, I feel like they are trying to make their own stuff. Listen to "Tangled", sounds ok to me. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEM ON ROCKBAND, please, that would suck.

Bottom end my point is: there are exceptions.

[cooldude93]

Maroon 5. It's popular (both meanings, widely listened to and pop genre) and it does not sound generic (at least not all songs). Great bassist (the guy's got some groove), some good songs (ok, some really suck, but not all). You can't compare them to every crappy boy band out there, I feel like they are trying to make their own stuff. Listen to "Tangled", sounds ok to me. I'M NOT SUGGESTING THEM ON ROCKBAND, please, that would suck.

Bottom end my point is: there are exceptions.


no I agree there are exceptions even some rap (mostly old sckool ) is pretty good ( when its not about braging about the amount of whores or money they have)but I hate allllllll disney channel original music

[c0nd0rd4myt]

my only question is what gave you the impression that Harmonix would even considering adding a song that would appear on the disney channel?

[SoraRikuVGM]

I hate Maroon They get me mad.

[vichnaiev]

I can find an exception for pop music, but for rap .......... no, I can't think of any, it's all crap to me.

[hmxsean]

I can find an exception for pop music, but for rap .......... no, I can't think of any, it's all crap to me.

Then you, sir, have not heard The Roots "Game Theory" album.

[vichnaiev]

Then you, sir, have not heard The Roots "Game Theory" album.

Well, that's another suggestion from you I'll be glad to hear. Couldn't find time to dig the punk band you suggested on the other topic, hopefully I'll get to hear both bands this weekend.

[hmxsean]

Gallows! Yeah, double up. Make a weekend of it. :D

[vichnaiev]

Gallows! Yeah, double up. Make a weekend of it. :D

Hey sean, take a look at the album review forum. Nice bands, loved the suggestions. =)

[3kage3]

they wouldnt put disney on rockband

[Black_Heaven]

If nothing else check out Aerosmith's Walk This Way with Run DMC and Public Enemy's Bring Tha Noize with Anthrax.

[Dan_CiTi]

TC, you're kidding right? They have all four major labels on board. Hollywood records and a bunch more are just parts of one bigger label. Like Reprise and Sire Records are just part of Warner Bros.

[cooldude93]

If nothing else check out Aerosmith's Walk This Way with Run DMC and Public Enemy's Bring Tha Noize with Anthrax.


see those are pretty good songs but most modern day rap is bad

[Brock_Landers]

I'll agree with that.. and I actually like rap.

I guess it's like the rock genre, the stuff that actually seems to get the exposure and saturate the marketplace somehow also happens to be the most disposable and shallow rubbish.

Go mainstream \o/

(btw, still waiting on "Turntable Hero" Harmonix.. or would that be "TurntableBand" now? :D)

[fenderblitz]

(btw, still waiting on "Turntable Hero" Harmonix.. or would that be "TurntableBand" now? :D)
if it was anything like Beatmania noone should be waiting for it

[Brock_Landers]

Can't say I've played it, but the theory of a game with a twin turntable controller should be pretty solid, since it largely is just a bunch of buttons and switches in the first place :P

The key to it would be licencing routines from competition winning DJs, and then hitting the correct switches, scratches, etc in time with the track (ala GH/RB).

If you're wondering what I mean and just thinking of club DJs, check the following links (warning, hiphop on blatent display past this point!)

Skratch Bastid turns two tracks into the Imperial March theme (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rGl4DlfBvLA&mode=related&search=)
SB during the 2003 DMC eliminations (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4eYsZG-y40&mode=related&search=) (watch the hands mid-way in.. that'd be fun to do)

Biggest issue I see is that it'd possibly require at least double the amount of licenced music, if not more.. altho the licence fee may not be so much if it's just 10s of a track they're using.

Anyway, that's more for the pipe dreams forum i think :)

edit: hmm just thought of another problem.. i wonder if you could actually watch the tv screen and turntable at the same time.. heh

[RedinTheSky]

What I mean is you should trust the developers to put in songs that will actually be fun to play, and one or two 'Disney' songs (if they even decide to include them) won't ruin the game as a whole.

This is a contradictory statement. Trust the developers and Disney songs. Haha. But I do trust the developers. I don't trust people that don't play instruments having control over what is in the game.

[relic81]

I just want awesome free dlc for this game.

[newwaytodie]

Free? yeah right bro.. I dont mind paying at all. If you're worried about Hannah Montana making it into the game you shouldn't really be worried, it's called Rock Band. Not "Pre-Manufactured-Sugar-Coated-No-Talent-Bullsh-t Band"

[TheRocker]

They aren't stupid. They won't put "disney channel" music in the game.

they Never Its not BRRRUTAL

[pillarstatic]

who cares which bands are on what record label? its not like the people who own said labels are gonna dictate what songs are put into the game? personally i would be much more afraid of MTV trying to shove thier grubby fingers into the mix

Yea if company's like MTV got all their music based on the record label you wouldn't be seeing nickelback on MTV or MTV2 (nickelback is on roadrunner, a heavy metal record label). Also if MTV gets their hands on this game deciding all the music it will probably go to hell REAL quick.

[SweetLikeGravy]

As Hmxsean has said about music in general, there is plenty of good underground rap out there these days, you just have to look hard enough. Right now, I believe that there is a lot of good political rap coming out of my hometown, NYC. Rappers such as Immortal Technique, Mos Def, and Talib Kweli. And they ren't even that underground. All I'm saying is, it's there.

[pillarstatic]

As Hmxsean has said about music in general, there is plenty of good underground rap out there these days, you just have to look hard enough. Right now, I believe that there is a lot of good political rap coming out of my hometown, NYC. Rappers such as Immortal Technique, Mos Def, and Talib Kweli. And they ren't even that underground. All I'm saying is, it's there.

yea BUT, rap sucks.

[hmxsean]

yea BUT, rap sucks.


No. Bad rap sucks. Just like bad metal sucks.

[VocalKnight]

No. Bad rap sucks. Just like bad metal sucks.


True. Crap is crap, no matter what genre you find it in. But you'll also find some pleasant surprises in each genre.

[superpunkgohan]

But you'll also find some pleasant surprises in each genre.

That's such a true statement. I listen to a lot of punk and metal stuff, and generally can't get into any pop, but my girlfriend likes Jason Mraz a lot and I'll tell you what, that dude can do some pretty sweet stuff. I never would have even given him a chance if she didn't make me listen to it, but he's got a few songs that display an incredible ability of songwriting. And to jump on the whole "popular music sucks" subject, I agree that I can't stand it when bands and artists don't write their own music/lyrics, but the crowd that type of music is targeted at couldn't care less. As hmxsean said, they're just looking for stuff to play in the background, while I think it's safe to say that most of us here desire a little more from our music.

Of course, this all applies to American pop music. In other countries, their Top 40 music is nothing like ours. Take Dimmu Borgir for example. People over here in the USA listen to Dimmu Borgir and would never consider it "popular" metal (at least amongst the general public), but over in Norway that stuff is hugely popular and in the Top 40. In fact, a lot of Dimmu Borgir's fans over there consider them sell-outs because they're now on a major record label and their music has reached American audiences.

In in all, it's all about perspective. What's "crap" to you may be someone else's favorite song, and vice versa. "Metal rules, it's the best music ever!" Yeah? Play it for Grandma and see how she feels. She may like it, but odds are it's all noise to her. The key to it all is respect. I think no one should ever say a particular band or song "sucks," but try to see it as "This doesn't necessarily suck, but it doesn't appeal to me." It's all about respect. Remember, the people making the "crap" have to at least care about music enough to make it. We all just have different tastes.

< /music rant >

P.S. I hope the Aladdin song is in Rock Band. "A whole new world!!!!!!!" That song has got some sick double-bass you know.

[hmxsean]

In in all, it's all about perspective. What's "crap" to you may be someone else's favorite song, and vice versa. "Metal rules, it's the best music ever!"

Last week The Onion wrote about this somewhat-

http://www.theonion.com/content/news_briefs/open_minded_music_lover

[newwaytodie]

Lest you question a credible source such as The Onion.

It's like I've always said: Music is a form of expression. Being a musician, (and what some people might call a lame ass, pansy, emo, p**sy) I'd like to call it the language of the soul. It may be a different language of the listener, and thus unaccessible.