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Phenomedom
03-11-2008, 03:12 PM
I'm sick of it.
YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC IS YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC. NOT EVERYONE ELSES.
Just cause you don't like the artist or the song, doesn't mean anyone wants to hear you whinning about it, and saying because of weeks like this, this is why Rock Band i declining. Rock Band is not declining.
I'm 25 years old, and I listen to just about every genre. I love Zeppelin, Eagles, The Who, Skynyrd, The Police, etc. But guess what, I listen to Nine Inch Nails, Disturbed, Linkin Park, My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, Unearth, Trapt, Stone Sour, Slipknot, BobaFlex, etc and a lot of underground bands most people on here probably never heard of.
Just cause it's a bad song to YOU doesn't mean it's not a bad song for other people. I'm not a huge Grateful Dead fan, but I downloaded the 6 pack, and found the songs a nice change of pace to play.
I personally think Harmonix is doing a great job. There was an outcry for newer songs, and they delivered. There was an outcry for Grateful Dead and they toss out a 6 pack. There was an outcry for more female vocalist songs, and we get a new Garbage track, and and this week's Paramore track.
They've been getting better at releasing variety. As much as I'd rather see a wider variety on a week by week basis, they've done a good job hitting different styles each week to appease a wider audience, and flesh out the game as a whole.
Kudos Harmonix.
BloodClot
03-11-2008, 03:24 PM
I so wanted to put a "your mom" response in here along with a "In before the lock"
Then I saw sarcasm...
Oh well, I will save it for future posts.
Edit: For the record, I agree with you and think that HMX is doing a great job of releasing a nice blend of music.
w00t!!
silvam14
03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
I'm sick of it.
YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC IS YOUR TASTE IN MUSIC. NOT EVERYONE ELSES.
Just cause you don't like the artist or the song, doesn't mean anyone wants to hear you whinning about it, and saying because of weeks like this, this is why Rock Band i declining. Rock Band is not declining.
I'm 25 years old, and I listen to just about every genre. I love Zeppelin, Eagles, The Who, Skynyrd, The Police, etc. But guess what, I listen to Nine Inch Nails, Disturbed, Linkin Park, My Chemical Romance, System of a Down, All That Remains, Killswitch Engage, Unearth, Trapt, Stone Sour, Slipknot, BobaFlex, etc and a lot of underground bands most people on here probably never heard of.
Just cause it's a bad song to YOU doesn't mean it's not a bad song for other people. I'm not a huge Grateful Dead fan, but I downloaded the 6 pack, and found the songs a nice change of pace to play.
I personally think Harmonix is doing a great job. There was an outcry for newer songs, and they delivered. There was an outcry for Grateful Dead and they toss out a 6 pack. There was an outcry for more female vocalist songs, and we get a new Garbage track, and and this week's Paramore track.
They've been getting better at releasing variety. As much as I'd rather see a wider variety on a week by week basis, they've done a good job hitting different styles each week to appease a wider audience, and flesh out the game as a whole.
Kudos Harmonix.
Music is a touchy subject to a lot of people and can cause people opinions to take control of them.
Also it just exposes a lot of people for the whiney beotches they are :)
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 03:30 PM
It's called self-control.
You know, something that all sane people should be able to exercise.
Especially on an online forum. Regarding a game. They're not going to die if their favorite band isn't released on DLC... but you seriously wouldn't know that from some of the posts here, good lord.
phulcrum
03-11-2008, 03:33 PM
I totally agree with you but do you realize that every week we get posts just like this along with every "DLC SUCKS!" posts?
silvam14
03-11-2008, 03:33 PM
It's called self-control.
You know, something that all sane people should be able to exercise.
Especially on an online forum. Regarding a game. They're not going to die if their favorite band isn't released on DLC... but you seriously wouldn't know that from some of the posts here, good lord.
I agree, although I'm not going to pat HMX on the back for some of their questionable content, I believe their effort to have weekly releases deserves everyone's respect
silvam14
03-11-2008, 03:34 PM
I totally agree with you but do you realize that every week we get posts just like this along with every "DLC SUCKS!" posts?
So True, So true.
Apples
03-11-2008, 03:34 PM
Yeah, with the variety of bands, artists, and genres now represented, I'm ready to say to critics that if you can't find something you like, your taste in music sucks, not the content.
This week was the perfect example, 3 unknown tracks, and because I kept an open mind, I'm walking away with 2 worthwhile songs in my library.
Those who don't keep an open mind are going to be continually disappointed when their niche artist/music type isn't represented.
Kurai
03-11-2008, 03:34 PM
They're not going to die if their favorite band isn't released on DLC... but you seriously wouldn't know that from some of the posts here, good lord.
That is most certainly a shame, could do with less whaaaambulance posts if that was the case.
BAzombie
03-11-2008, 03:35 PM
Very well said....
I too was going to give you a piece of advise.
But you said almost what I was gonna ... but switch 25 for 41 ..... and add Iron Maiden, James Taylor, The Guess Who, and Anthrax to your band list. :D
phulcrum
03-11-2008, 03:36 PM
They're not going to die if their favorite band isn't released on DLC... but you seriously wouldn't know that from some of the posts here, good lord.
Maybe they will... if they are emo.
GarryMar
03-11-2008, 03:38 PM
good lord.
That is mearly your opinion and all depends on personal preferance!
GarryMar
03-11-2008, 03:39 PM
Maybe they will... if they are emo.
I'd love an emo lawn outside my house, at least it would cut itself.
sillystou
03-11-2008, 03:40 PM
Keep up the good work HMX! :) You'll never be able to please EVERYONE all at once. That's just impossible.
If you release a trash pack, then the metal haters will hate you. If you release mainstream stuff like Paramore, then people who don't like mainstream will hate you. If you release The Who, then people will hate you for not releasing newer bands.
Whatever you guys do, you'll never be able to please every single person on this forum in ONE DLC. That's just the way it is.
Despite the fact that Paramore is a mainstream band, you have to admire the fact that they're trying to get us new bands. If you don't like it, maybe you'll be lucky and will get something you like for the next DLC.
chico76
03-11-2008, 03:42 PM
I think this isn't so much a "whiny problem" as it is an age problem. Based on the language (and grammar) used in various posts on these forums...
It is the "youngin's" that are most upset by the inclusion of certain bands. 20- and 30-somethings seem, in general, to be the more musically diverse when it comes to taste, and seem to be the most level-headed in their replies. 40+ are generally calm, but do have that condescending tone to their words, as though "they know what's best" for all of us (through some misguided impression that the only "good" music was made more than 25 years ago).
For the sake of everyone, we all just need to consider our audience... and whomever might be creating a post or responding to one. It's easy to tell when a reply is from a bratty teenager that is used to always getting their way. Likewise, it's easy to tell when a reply is from a grumpy old man (or woman) that hasn't listened to the radio since Disco...
For my part, I don't particularly care for a lot of the DLC we've been offered, but my "voice" is to simply leave it in the Xbox Marketplace. I've downloaded maybe 30 songs to date... both because I'm not necessarily a fan of EVERY band or genre, but also because I'm selective about what I spend money on. Contrary to popular belief, there are other games besides Rock Band to play for our consoles. I've recently discovered Lego Star Wars, which is incredibly addictive. Sure, Rock Band is awesome and probably in most of our Top 5's... but save some of your money for other games or for future DLC that you do like.
HMX will only shift their DLC strategy if the numbers hit them the wrong way... so, all of those people whining about how terrible this week is (or any other week), make sure you DON'T download the songs. That's the only way to make a statement. Whining here on the forums does absolutely nothing if you go and buy the songs anyway...
Highlandlassie1
03-11-2008, 03:44 PM
There is no music on this planet that EVERYONE will like.
Why can't folks understand that?
There are plenty of tracks to appeal to everyone.
What would be nice is if they did 3 packs consisting of one song each from different genres,
IE:
One classic rock song, one grunge song, one alternative song, or punk, or emo, or whatever, not 3 songs of the same genre.
That way 3 times more people will theoretically find at least one song that they can relate to every week.
Having to pass entirely on DLC on a given week is what seems to irritate people the most.
thehelixreaper
03-11-2008, 03:45 PM
*signs in agreement with TC*
hmxhenry
03-11-2008, 03:47 PM
Just wanted to quickly chime in with two things. First of all, I changed the title of the thread. Apologies to the OP, but I thought this was a little more clear and to the point. I didn't read the sarcasm in the original title and was pleasantly surprised by the content contained within.
Secondly, it's good to see an open minded response to DLC in this thread. We'll never be able to make everyone happy with every track every week, but it's important to note that every week we put out DLC we make more people happy. This week, for example, Paramore has had an excellent response from female vocalists that have been asking for more female fronted bands to rock out to. Thanks to those who recognize that they are not the only ones playing the game, and appreciate a certain level of variety in the DLC provided. You keep playing 'em, we'll keep making 'em.
Apples
03-11-2008, 03:49 PM
You keep playing 'em, we'll keep making 'em.
Yessum :cool:
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 03:49 PM
Personally, when it comes to song diversity, I think it'd be cool if there was one week a month where they always released six songs, and on that week, try to make sure that each song is from a totally different genre, so that people will have a variety to choose from, especially if the last couple weeks hadn't been to their liking.
HarryYambag
03-11-2008, 03:50 PM
So is a pro-dlc thread, that cries about the crying in anti-dlc threads, any better?
Zeleii
03-11-2008, 03:51 PM
Good point, I have realized every week no matter what. Some jacka** makes a thread saying Harmonix hit rock bottom and "this weeks DLC" is the worst yet. So, what I'm trying to prove. Oh, just that people are total tardcakes that's all. FYI tardcake is a fun word
phulcrum
03-11-2008, 03:53 PM
FYI tardcake is a fun word
I like cockmonkey myself.
Sayburr
03-11-2008, 03:55 PM
So far I have been pleased with the DLC made available. I have not picked up everything, but I am still very happy for the diversity of songs. I am not going to list a bunch of bands I want, that is for the link at the bottom of the forums (request song). Yes, there are some bands I would love to see and I have let HMX know what they are. Meanwhile, I am enjoying the sampling they are giving us. One, maybe two songs this week from bands I have never heard of.
Meldlm
03-11-2008, 03:58 PM
Paramore has had an excellent response from female vocalists that have been asking for more female fronted bands to rock out to.
That was my first thought when I heard the song...more female vocals the the folks who were wanting them.
It's not one of my favorite bands ever (in fact...I'd never heard of them before the DLC announcement) but you know what? This game isn't called "RockBand customized for Meldlm" and after giving them a listen, and seeing as how they're discounted, I see no reason not to download em!
silvam14
03-11-2008, 03:58 PM
I think my wife will like the paramore song, so that's good enough for me.
PaleSaint
03-11-2008, 03:59 PM
So is a pro-dlc thread, that cries about the crying in anti-dlc threads, any better?
If we didn't have anti-dlc threads, then we wouldn't have pro-dlc threads whining about anti-dlc threads would we.
HarryYambag
03-11-2008, 04:01 PM
If we didn't have anti-dlc threads, then we wouldn't have pro-dlc threads whining about anti-dlc threads would we.
Touché. Well played my friend. :cool:
Zeleii
03-11-2008, 04:03 PM
I love popular threads they own. But yeah I pretty much enjoy all of the DLC to date. There is only one song I DONT enjoy and that was on the game disk and that is Dead on Arrival but I never really liked Fall Out Boy to begin with so yeah. But that's personal preference so yeah.
Samuel346
03-11-2008, 04:11 PM
Yeah, with the variety of bands, artists, and genres now represented, I'm ready to say to critics that if you can't find something you like, your taste in music sucks, not the content.
This week was the perfect example, 3 unknown tracks, and because I kept an open mind, I'm walking away with 2 worthwhile songs in my library.
Those who don't keep an open mind are going to be continually disappointed when their niche artist/music type isn't represented.
I agree with most of what you're saying, my dear apples, I have personally seen my music selection expand with RockBand and Guitar Hero.
The issue is true representation of what young people like who play this game and some feel cheated by that to a severe degree.
I download all of the offered content because even if I don't like the song "in real life" it doesn't stipulate that I won't like it in the game.
It's more asking for true balance in the DLC. The content from pre-90s is fantastic. I love Police :) along with the rest of the content. Once we really start looking into the 90s and definitely into the 00s the music representation is not at the same level, in a lot of younger (and some older) peoples opinions.
I don't mean to hate on DLC. I don't want to be seen or misinterpreted as a "whiner" because that is not my intent at all.
But I guess I could make the statement more clear this way.
Erase all the music from the 70s out of your mind for a second(that's in this game). Now, let's pretend there wasn't any at all, til the DLC. Everyone would be asking for Sabbath and etc(not gonna name all the bands) and instead they released "Discos best hits".
Again, is Disco the worst thing ever, I am not trying to make a claim to that, but at the same time if that scenario happened, I think the people who want the 70s more than anything else would feel the way the people who want 90s+ music.
Does that maybe clear things up?
ILY Apples :p
Maybe they will... if they are emo.
You may think that your humor, which insults something that people WHO SPEAK MOST on these forums don't like, is funny.
But it's not.
Plenty of people have killed themselves, and it's just not funny.
Meldlm
03-11-2008, 04:13 PM
I would totally download "Disco's best hits" :D
tobiasdennis
03-11-2008, 04:15 PM
I think anything that I don't listen to, sucks. Which is what most of you listen to. It all sucks.
No offence.
K.
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 04:16 PM
I think it's funny. :P
Samuel346
03-11-2008, 04:17 PM
I would totally download "Disco's best hits" :D
Speaking strictly Rock of course. Showing relations was intent.
I think it's funny. :P
Well then I hope you never have to deal with someone who kills them self, although apparently you may require it to understand why it's not funny.
chico76
03-11-2008, 04:18 PM
I think anything that I don't listen to, sucks. Which is what most of you listen to. It all sucks.
No offence.
K.
If you don't listen to it, how do you know whether or not it sucks? Maybe if you listened, you'd find something new that you would realize doesn't actually suck...
I've learned to appreciate a few new bands/songs since I started playing Rock Band and the Guitar Hero series... and it's been well worth it...
hmxhenry
03-11-2008, 04:21 PM
I think anything that I don't listen to, sucks. Which is what most of you listen to. It all sucks.
No offence.
K.
"No offense" is a phrase that is bound to make the Rock Band list of Forum Fouls when HMXjohnlok gets back from SXSW. Saying "no offense" before or after a statement does not give you license to say something deliberately offensive.
phulcrum
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
"No offense" is a phrase that is bound to make the Rock Band list of Forum Fouls when HMXjohnlok gets back from SXSW. Saying "no offense" before or after a statement does not give you license to say something deliberately offensive.
Glad I'm not the only one who thinks that when someone uses the phrase.
QueensoftheStoneAge
03-11-2008, 04:23 PM
/this thread
darknessmoon
03-11-2008, 05:01 PM
Just wanted to quickly chime in with two things. First of all, I changed the title of the thread. Apologies to the OP, but I thought this was a little more clear and to the point. I didn't read the sarcasm in the original title and was pleasantly surprised by the content contained within.
Secondly, it's good to see an open minded response to DLC in this thread. We'll never be able to make everyone happy with every track every week, but it's important to note that every week we put out DLC we make more people happy. This week, for example, Paramore has had an excellent response from female vocalists that have been asking for more female fronted bands to rock out to. Thanks to those who recognize that they are not the only ones playing the game, and appreciate a certain level of variety in the DLC provided. You keep playing 'em, we'll keep making 'em.
I think it's great that in this post it's acknowledged that requests ARE carefully taken into consideration. Paramore has been highly requested, and BLAM! There it is! You have no idea how excited our Bass player got when I told her the news. So excited that I'm gladly going to lend her my 360 and Rockband so that her and our guitarist (her bf) can rock out to that and all of the other DLC I have (all minus Cherry Bomb).
But, of course, no matter what you guys do, people will not take this into account, and they will continue to think that you guys are not reading our posts simply because THEIR requests have not been met. Not everyone on the forums will do this, of course.
I think anything that I don't listen to, sucks. Which is what most of you listen to. It all sucks.
No offence.
K.
Wow. I was going to say something about this, but you're not worth my time (or anyone else's for that matter).
BloodClot
03-11-2008, 05:50 PM
Although I have less then a year and a month to get into that 40+ group, I feel I am very fortunate for the year I was born, I caught a bit of the hippy music, classic rock, disco, new wave, beginning of rap (who can forget Rapture from Blondie :p), Grunge, pop, and everything in between. I wouldn't even mind some Rock-a-Billy music (Stray Cats would be fun).
As it has been said time and time again, you will not be happy all the time with what has been put up. Best thing to do is buy what you want, STFU about what you don't want. Speak with your wallets and not with your mouth (or keyboards). Do you think if they released me singing Yoko Ono's greatest hits and no one bought it, they would release more? As much as you would like to think it, the game wasn't made for you and neither is the DLC (it was made for me since I enjoy all music to some extent). Life's not fair...and inevitably you will die (just had to throw that last part in there).
I can go on and on how diversity is one of the games strength, then I can go and get all patriotic on you. Next will come the wall of text which you will skip.
So basically, give the guys at HMX a chance, you have all been enjoying the game since it came out, your type of music will come, have some faith.
tobiasdennis
03-11-2008, 05:52 PM
please don't beat me up internet-people-with-different-opionions!!!!111
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 05:57 PM
The quality of the of the personality of the poster above me is directly related to the quality of music the band in his signature makes. Check out their Myspace to see what I'm talking about. :P
Tralfmadorian
03-11-2008, 05:57 PM
A lot of people have trouble wrapping their brains around subjectivity and relativism. The internet is overstuffed with them.
There are objective qualities to music than can be quantified and ordered, but something subjective like preference cant be quantified or analyzed, and this goes for music, movies, books, art, even sexual magnetism.
Sure you can take a band like The Beatles. There is no way to discount the fact that The Beatles were both artistically brilliant, innovative, and popular. They are one of the few bands in history to nail that trifecta and have long and successful careers. But even with all that easily verifiable evidence, there are still people who "just dont like the way they sound".
When people suggest that disliking or liking a certain band reflects on your personality or intelligence, they go too far.
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Uhm...
Except, the music people listen to has a lot to do with their personality.
If you don't see that, you're blind.
Phenomedom
03-11-2008, 06:02 PM
Just wanted to quickly chime in with two things. First of all, I changed the title of the thread. Apologies to the OP, but I thought this was a little more clear and to the point. I didn't read the sarcasm in the original title and was pleasantly surprised by the content contained within.
Hey no worries, I guess the original title was <strike>slightly</strike> extremely misleading. I appreciate you taking the time to read it before locking it mistakenly.
Secondly, it's good to see an open minded response to DLC in this thread. We'll never be able to make everyone happy with every track every week, but it's important to note that every week we put out DLC we make more people happy. This week, for example, Paramore has had an excellent response from female vocalists that have been asking for more female fronted bands to rock out to. Thanks to those who recognize that they are not the only ones playing the game, and appreciate a certain level of variety in the DLC provided. You keep playing 'em, we'll keep making 'em.
Once again I think you guys have done a really great job. Looking back there's only been 3 weeks that I haven't downloaded a single track, however that's not to say I don't plan on going back to those 3 weeks, it's just that I want to save them for a week when there's nothing I like to download, but the way that's going that might not be for a very long time.
I don't know about other people, but also I take into consideration when downloading a song, how much the people I play with regularly with will enjoy it, or even so if some members of my family will enjoy it for when I bring it over to family get togethers.
Tralfmadorian
03-11-2008, 06:06 PM
Uhm...
Except, the music people listen to has a lot to do with their personality.
If you don't see that, you're blind.
I see a lot of things that determine a person's personality.
If you define yourself by your musical taste, that's cool. I don't. Even the music I make doesn't say anything about my personality. People who like angry music arent always angry people, nor is the reverse true. Some people live and breathe music, and some people just enjoy the diversion it provides.
But that's beyond the point. What I said was a response to people who say "If you dont like _____, then you are stupid and you suck at appreciating music." Ive heard or read this so many times it makes me sad.
tobiasdennis
03-11-2008, 06:07 PM
try not to make fun of my band too much you might hurt my feelings... haha
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 06:08 PM
Well.
I'm not saying that people define themselves by their musical tastes.
I would say that people's musical tastes are defined by their personalities.
:P
DreAdAwaKeNinG
03-11-2008, 06:09 PM
lol.
I really don't mind the music. I think y'all need to get to a studio and get those vocals done in a manner in which I can actually hear them over the guitar/drums.
Phenomedom
03-11-2008, 06:09 PM
beginning of rap (who can forget Rapture from Blondie :p),
Oh, what I wouldn't give for Biz Markie's "Just a friend".
Tralfmadorian
03-11-2008, 06:10 PM
try not to make fun of my band too much you might hurt my feelings... haha
I've heard worse. There are things I dig about it. I'd offer some constructive criticism from a IRL musician perspective, but I have this strange notion that it would either be disregarded or would lead to some more juvenile sarcasm, and I think we've all had our share of that.
darknessmoon
03-11-2008, 06:12 PM
A lot of people have trouble wrapping their brains around subjectivity and relativism. The internet is overstuffed with them.
There are objective qualities to music than can be quantified and ordered, but something subjective like preference cant be quantified or analyzed, and this goes for music, movies, books, art, even sexual magnetism.
Sure you can take a band like The Beatles. There is no way to discount the fact that The Beatles were both artistically brilliant, innovative, and popular. They are one of the few bands in history to nail that trifecta and have long and successful careers. But even with all that easily verifiable evidence, there are still people who "just dont like the way they sound".
When people suggest that disliking or liking a certain band reflects on your personality or intelligence, they go too far.
(Bold added to your quote for emphasis)
I am one of those people. I don't deny the greatness and all that is the Beatles, but it simply doesn't appeal to me.
Uhm...
Except, the music people listen to has a lot to do with their personality.
If you don't see that, you're blind.
I will agree to a certain extent simply because I know it doesn't apply to all people, but it does to some.
I don't know about other people, but also I take into consideration when downloading a song, how much the people I play with regularly with will enjoy it, or even so if some members of my family will enjoy it for when I bring it over to family get togethers.
Count me in as being one of the people that does that.
tobiasdennis
03-11-2008, 06:13 PM
I really don't mind the music. I think y'all need to get to a studio and get those vocals done in a manner in which I can actually hear them over the guitar/drums.
We did the recording ourselves so it's VERY amature. But thank you though! You could have been a *****. Respect!
What I said was a response to people who say "If you dont like _____, then you are stupid and you suck at appreciating music."
Man I never said anything about anyone being stupid or sucking at appreciating music. GET OFF THE COMPUTER FOR A WHILE. And stop trying to attack me BRAHHHH.
BloodClot
03-11-2008, 06:14 PM
Oh, what I wouldn't give for Biz Markie's "Just a friend".
Yeah, me too. Too bad their isn't a guitar part in it (that I can remember).
Be as fun as Shakarone (sp?) aka mentally handicapped rap (*note* I used the PC term). Before I get flamed, listen to it before you pass judgement on me.
Tralfmadorian
03-11-2008, 06:23 PM
Man I never said anything about anyone being stupid or sucking at appreciating music. GET OFF THE COMPUTER FOR A WHILE. And stop trying to attack me BRAHHHH.
Because you are the only person I could possibly be talking about and the fact that ive been posting for about a half-hour can only mean I don't get away from the computer enough.
Get over yourself cool internet guy.
something you did say in another thread applies almost directly:
I think people don't like it in general, because most people prefer bad music. Based on what I read on this forum anyway.
That kind of looks like youre attacking people's ability to distinguish "bad" music from "good" music. If someone likes it, then it obviously is only "bad" from your particular subjective angle, since people generally dont prefer "bad" things to "good" things.
But I digress. Im sorry if I made you feel like I was attacking you.
m85021
03-11-2008, 06:26 PM
Those who don't keep an open mind are going to be continually disappointed when their niche artist/music type isn't represented.
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