And Click Click Clack Goes The Drums...

[HollywoodBound]

Ok so after seeing the drum set which is an amazing peice of hardware and love that it will be so durable and what not the only thing that is bothering me is the fact of hearing the click click clack noise of the sticks hitting the pads. Mix that in with the clicking of the guitars and the tapping of the mic that's gonna be overkill.. (ok maybe not that bad but just sayin....)

So anyway my guess is that Harmonix doesnt plan on making much of any changes to this drum controller they've worked so hard on. The only thing that I wish they'd add would be a thin rubber pad over the pads and that would muffle out some of that click noise. If not I mean you could easly enough go to any store that sells those non slip pads for kitchens cut out the right size of circles and lay them over the pads and would work but it'd be nice if that wouldn't need to be done. Just wondering what other peoples impressions of this are.

Of course though the easiest fix would be to crank up the music volume (which I usually having pretty loud anyways) over the sound of the guitar and drums clicking noises but still.

[masterx1918]

it's gonna make a noise no matter what. whenever you hit two solid things against each other it will make noise, unless you want the drum pads to be made out of wool and the drum sticks to be covered with cotton balls

[skeltonath]

Hopefully there won't be that much clicking. The guitar's strumbar doesn't click anymore, plus you can't hear "click" of hitting the mic. I think you already suggested the best alternative, rock out louder!

[Anteraan]

Hopefully there won't be that much clicking. The guitar's strumbar doesn't click anymore, plus you can't hear "click" of hitting the mic. I think you already suggested the best alternative, rock out louder!

Good to hear about the guitar's strumbar. I was kind of worried about that for RB.

[masterx1918]

it also depends how hard you hit the drums. in the don't fear the reaper vids especially the guys are slamming those pads. same thing with the guitar you can strum softly and it won't make a noise. if you dum lightly it won't make (as much) noise

[admanimal]

I doubt that adding any kind of rubber to the pad is going to help (isn't that what they are made out of to begin with?). What could help is some kind of soft foam, as long as it doesn't keep the hits from registering.

[crunchyoverseas]

Being an actual drummer has advantages...

Modern Electronic drums kit use a mesh head which makes almost no noise, old roland kits used rubber which aren't as bad as the hard plastic of the '80's kits. But mesh heads would be more expensive...

Third party maybe? Anyone want to go into business?

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[Tendoza]

I mean when you look at it, you're hitting pads with pieces of wood, It's kind of like feeding a cat into a wood chipper and asking it not to make a noise, it's just gonna happen no matter what.

Crank it up to that special number and rock out is the only prescription for this :)

[21stbionic]

Your not gonna notice that after you get some practice in and start hitting the heads better instead of the plastic shell.Also those videos recording equipment were more on the players and not the speakers.We need not worry in 2 months I'm sure its gonna be the best days we have seen in some years.

[Terranova]

Your always going to get the sound of the sticks hitting the pads it's unavoidable but when your busy rocking to the tracks and following the note patterns you would barley notice it especially if you have decent volume, also lets not forget for most of the vids there were camera men with mics etc filming up close to the drummer which would have enhanced the sound of the sticks more than what it would have been.

[Emo_Reaper]

Being an actual drummer has advantages...

Modern Electronic drums kit use a mesh head which makes almost no noise, old roland kits used rubber which aren't as bad as the hard plastic of the '80's kits. But mesh heads would be more expensive...

Third party maybe? Anyone want to go into business?

t
Yea,Im a drummer too,and they'll always make noise(electronic,or acoustic) And honestly adding rubber pads wouldnt help much,because alot of the electric sets have rubber heads,and they are still loud when your rockin out to them. Just learn to deal with it :p Be excited that you actually have the game,not that your rockin too hard =]

[Smidget]

I didn't really notice it when I played. I mean, I remember them making the "thud" noise or whatever (not click click clack) but you kinda lose track of it as long as the music is even decently turned up. Mesh would be the only material that would solve that but as said, too expensive. I'm sure there's going to be a lot of modding going on with the drums so just be patient and no doubt there will be something.

[tf5_bassist]

omg... this is going to drive my wife CRAZY... her brother comes over and hangs out for days at a time, and we drive her nuts with GH2/GH80s, the drum sounds are going to be even worse lol...

Seriously though, they don't sound TOO loud, not like the oldoldold-school plastic heads... I'm with Crunchyoverseas though, the new style of mesh heads are freakin' QUIET (if you don't know what these are, then go read this (http://www.roland.com/V-Drums/msg_pad.html)). If there was a third-party drum kit that was more adjustable, mesh heads, and double-kick, I'd buy it in a heartbeat.

However, since they're the deadened rubber heads, that brings me to my next thought... I wonder if plastic brushes (http://www.vintagedrum.com/item/Vic-Firth-Rock-BRR-Rake-Brushes-UP-BRR) will work... I used to have a pair of these, and while they hit pretty hard for being brushes, they were still REALLY quiet.

[MartyMcFly]

This was discussed in another thread. Someone summed it up easily by saying:

They could go 3 ways with it

Durability

Affordability

Noise

They could only go with 2 of those choices. As someone said earlier in this thread. Mesh heads would be too expensive. Do you want the drums to cost $200 alone?

[HollywoodBound]

Anyone here that was at PAX and got to play the drums what were your impressions on this matter from acutually playing it?

[Spraynwipe]

A lot of the noise that you're hearing is people hitting the plastic rims of the drums instead of the rubber pads. Even the worst rim offenders at PAX got used to the layout and learnt to hit with the point of the stick on the pad after a song or two, rather than whacking the entire stick across the edge of the rim.

[Coldplayer]

I case of the guitar controller, I always thought, why don't they make some kind of a rubber button instead of the plastic one, would'nt that make less noise? It would propably even feel better.

[Electric_Zen]

Even the worst rim offenders at PAX got used to the layout and learnt to hit with the point of the stick on the pad after a song or two, rather than whacking the entire stick across the edge of the rim.

Thank you, Dan, I've been looking for a band name.

This November, your world will be rocked by the unstoppable sound of Rim Offenders.

[PinkFloyd]

Thank you, Dan, I've been looking for a band name.

This November, your world will be rocked by the unstoppable sound of Rim Offenders.

:D that's so wrong in so many ways :p

OT:

just crank up the volume if the noise bothers you. I never noticed the Guitar Hero controller made any noise untill someone pointed it out to me. Why? I follow on-screen instructions: turn it up!

[Joigga]

3 Words - TURN IT UP!

[Maherj]

I love that band name...Rim Offenders.

I'll play bass for you just to say I played with the Rim Offenders

[AVC808]

plastic ass and the rim offenders :eek:

[MartyMcFly]

I lol'd

That would be epic

[Bakkster_Man]

Modern Electronic drums kit use a mesh head which makes almost no noise, old roland kits used rubber which aren't as bad as the hard plastic of the '80's kits. But mesh heads would be more expensive...

Third party maybe? Anyone want to go into business?

I can see myself making a modded, or from scratch, mesh drum controller. I've got too much going for it not to happen, I think.
I'm anticipating Rock Band, especially the drums.
I'm an Electrical Engineer, with experience in sensor technology.
My girlfriend is also an EE, but she's actually a drummer.

Time to start researching, I think...


This was discussed in another thread. Someone summed it up easily by saying:

They could go 3 ways with it

Durability
Affordability
Noise

They could only go with 2 of those choices. As someone said earlier in this thread. Mesh heads would be too expensive. Do you want the drums to cost $200 alone?

That was me :cool:

Basically, this is the classic engineering example. You need to make tradeoffs based on what you think is best. With computers it's small/fast/cheap, and other disciplines make still different tradeoffs.

And if you don't like it: start hacking. I'm looking forward to the drum hacks we get, and expect everyone to post their own.

[HollywoodBound]

hmm intresting... ^

[IErrantVentureI]

I coulda sworn I made a thread like this a long time ago. :p

Why do all my threads suck?!

[parastroke7]

Listen, guys...Mr. Clack Clack Clack is only going to be an issue for those with no stick control. The guys you see in these videos playing in drum duels and whatnot have a literal "arm erection", and use only 10% of their wrist, if that. Avid drummers use over 60% of their wrist when playing parts like these. The better you get, the more Mr. Clack will begin to disappear. Although, since most of you probobly aren't avid drummers, I agree with Bakkster. Either pad your sticks, or pad your...pads. I wonder why Harmonix didn't make the pads thick rubber rather than "skin"? Thick rubber only makes a wood-hitting-rubber sound.

[Terranova]

Listen, guys...Mr. Clack Clack Clack is only going to be an issue for those with no stick control. The guys you see in these videos playing in drum duels and whatnot have a literal "arm erection", and use only 10% of their wrist, if that. Avid drummers use over 60% of their wrist when playing parts like these. The better you get, the more Mr. Clack will begin to disappear. Although, since most of you probobly aren't avid drummers, I agree with Bakkster. Either pad your sticks, or pad your...pads. I wonder why Harmonix didn't make the pads thick rubber rather than "skin"? Thick rubber only makes a wood-hitting-rubber sound.

Maybe HMX did try thick rubber pads but found that it wasn't registering the hits with the note patterns as good.

[JarethLegend]

I'd like to get a confirmation on whether the game will support other electronic drum sets through a midi-to-usb adapter. The drumming game that existed before this does. I own electronic kits and would love to be able to hook it up to my Xbox for a little more realism.

[miketoast]

That would be sick!

I'm sure you have double bass.....