In all honesty, how have you enjoyed DLC thus far?

[captneta045]

Forget whining about the Thrash Pack (which I loved) or Paramore (which was fine, IMO) or that you didn't get your Who's Next album, how have you truthfully enjoyed DLC thus far?

Honestly, I love it. Just the thrill of anxiously waiting every week to see the DLC announced, even if I end up not getting it, is enough for me. At least HMX takes the time to release DLC every week, when GH3 releases it basically whenever they want to, and most of it, sadly, is crap. I've downloaded/purchased roughly 30 of the DLC songs thus far, and I'm really happy to know every Tuesday I'll have the chance to purchase more.

HMX, IMO, has done the best job with DLC ever... period. No other game that promises DLC releases that content on a weekly basis and tries to cater to everyone as much as HMX does (perfect exampe: the GH DLC price tags were hated, so they lowered it, also the variety of DLC released)... and that's something truly amazing.

[timeb0mb]

I loved the thrash pack, oasis pack, and some of the others, and i always thought paramore was quite retadly ***, which still i think is (IMO) but anyways.

I want them to make another one, or have someone in the gaming industry to make a game, were we can go to the bar, drink, audtion people. get in bar fights.

You know, the right things rockers do. :D


ANYWAYS!

I have loved the DLC so far, cant wait till friday. :D

[c-murph]

Agreed 100%.

I know it's coming but I still want my Nirvana Now though...

[I_LOVE_HMX]

If I had the cash i'd own them all = ]

HMX are doing an excellent job.

[metallirome]

I love playing the DLC. If I didn't like a certain song from the pack or just a certain song, im not one of those people that come on here and rip the song apart. Heck this beats playing the air drums!!!! I would have never imagined playing metallica songs though. Once I get my xbox back from microsoft i'll be downloading probably all the songs i did miss though. keep up the good work!

[Kurai]

I like em all to some extent, some for how fun they are to play, some for the actual music, I have them all, and while I'm still considering the Thrash pack when it's released on the playstation store tomorrow, I'm fairly certain I'll continue to buy a majority if not all of the DLCs.

[Sayburr]

40 songs downloaded... I am pleased with the DLC. Not everything appeals to me, but that is how it should be. Diversity in song style allows the widest range of appeal, for every person who hates the Thrash pack there is one person who hates the songs the thrash hater downloaded. If everyone liked the same things it would be one boring world.

[Megadeth_fanatic]

It's been great. I really think this is the future of gaming. Especially a game like this. There has been a few weeks where there was nothing I wanted to download, but I'm well over a 100 songs and I like most of what I've downloaded so I can't complain. Just hoping for more Classic Rock myself. And that isn't including Grateful Dead.

[gonadsandstrife]

Loving the chance to experience music I havent heard before in a way that requires complete concentration....but I am tired of playing in Tokyo.

[Unleavened_Dead]

I've downloaded everything they've put out, and I don't think it's ever gonna be enough. There are just so many songs that could/should be on rockband, they could release 20 a week and still go for years. I bought this game because it's the center of any party, it's just so much damn fun and I firmly believe it's impossible to walk by it after 2 beers. It's a social game in a way that few games have ever been able to be realized. The only thing I'm worried about is running out of cash and running out of hard drive space on my xbox.:p

[Geminice]

I enjoy the DLC so far. I have downloaded roughly 30 songs so far, and I really have a blast playing it. Hell, i would've probably gotten bored of the game without DLC. Now if all the people who play online would just get the same DLC as me..................:D

[DSOTM]

I don't really download all of the songs that they release, or even most of them. I usually only download songs that I know or songs by bands that I know. Still, the songs that I do download are pretty fun, but most of the songs they've released aren't really the kind of stuff that I'm into.

[CM_Drunk]

I really like the majority of it. There is only maybe 8-12 songs I Dont have. I know there is alot of Rush, The Police and such but I do think there is a great variety thats out there.

[Simbacca]

Concerning the DLC, I don't find it horrible but I do think it could have been much better.

A good chunk of the DLC choices seemed silly, as either they chose a band that really isn't very popular or known, or they chose a good band but then proceed to pick unknown or far less successful songs. I really do not understand Harmonix's need to often do this. I would imagine picking more successful bands and more successful tracks would of made good business sense, as it should of lead to more DLC purchases.

Of course at this point, they have only their sales to go by as an indicator of the market, and I have to wonder how much this indicator is being corrupted by the many, IMO, foolish people that feel like they have to purchase every DLC due to the faulty reasoning that if they don't, they wouldn't be saying "thank you" to Harmonix enough (like paying $170 for a game wasn't enough), or that if they don't, Harmonix would somehow run out of funding and desire to release more DLC in the future (which is ridiculous. considering lucrative as DLC is, low sales would simply cause them to start selecting more known and successful bands/tracks). Due note that I am not talking referring to people that download them all do to the "gotta get them all" pokemon/mmorpg collecting mentality. That reasoning is a bit more understandable as it seems to be a part of human nature, though I don't personally subscribe to that way of thinking. Anyway back on topic...

The only reasons I can possibly think of for the more obscure track choices over the more popular ones is either a) the record companies or the bands (however Harmonix needs permission from) only allows them access to these tracks (which seems very unlikely that they would make these choices), b) somehow Harmonix profits more off these choices, or c) the devs are just weird like that. I don't know, I personally don't get it.

Also note that I am in no way criticizing the genres they have covered with their DLC. Though some of the genres are not to my liking, I fully agree that they all should be represented so that there is something for everyone. All I am saying is that in many cases, I do not understand why they chose the tracks they did to represent many of the genres.

Anyway I will finish by saying that I have gotten much enjoyment out of my Rock Band purchase, and will continue to for some time. Perhaps, in a way, it is a good thing that they make some of these seemingly illogical choices. It helps save me from spending even more money than I already have for this game :p

I hope Harmonix devs read threads like this or else I wrote all this for nothing.

[Joatmon]

I like some of the dlc, I LOVE SHOCKWAVE. Yes, HMX is doing a good job of keeping it coming, yes this is the future of gaming, I think some of their choices are very questionable, yes this could be a great tool for music if used properly & without bias.

I am saddened by the fact that some of you seem to base your existence around buying dlc, yes, I love the game, yes I play way more than I should, yes sometimes it is more important that real life, even for me. I for one am trying to not get so completely sucked in to the anticipation and readiness to succumb to the marketing machine. It is a good (at what it does) machine...

:eek:

[Joatmon]

Concerning the DLC, I don't find it horrible but I do think it could have been much better.

A good chunk of the DLC choices seemed silly, as either they chose a band that really isn't very popular or known, or they chose a good band but then proceed to pick unknown or far less successful songs. [/i]

EXACTLY!

I understand using RB as a tool to expose us to new bands etc (Like Black Tide). HOWEVER, I could also understand putting in a known band pack with POPULAR songs & then maybe including the odd ones ALSO in the pack, not just putting in the obscure ones without the good ones.

[Joatmon]

I have to wonder how much this indicator is being corrupted by the many, IMO, foolish people that feel like they have to purchase every DLC due to the faulty reasoning that if they don't, they wouldn't be saying "thank you" to Harmonix enough (like paying $170 for a game wasn't enough)..... low sales would simply cause them to start selecting more known and successful bands/tracks).

I hope Harmonix devs read threads like this or else I wrote all this for nothing.

Again EXACTLY, you sir are obviously an intelligent person!

I don't think this generation understands the free market capitalist system...
You buy what you like, then they make more of what you bought and less of what you didn't.

If you buy EVERYTHING they make the "bean counters" have no way to show a chart in the staff meeting of what people ACTUALLY like (based on voting with your money), they can only assume that they are Gods gift to marketing because EVERYTHING they make gets snapped up regardless of quality, relevance or peoples wishes. Does that make sense to anyone else?

In a capitalism environment, people are supposed to "vote" with their money, that is how companies know what to make more of, if you don't buy it they will stop making it, if you buy it they will make more of similar items.

[Steef]

It's changed the game altogether for me!

I <3 DLC ;)

[silvam14]

I have download a lot of DLC ( I have 106 songs)

The only regrets I have are El Scorcho and Sick,Sick,Sick

[Royank]

I enjoy the DLC, I also like the surprise. But I would like to see some bands with their top songs they've made.

[TimJR]

It's been excellent. I've by no means picked up everything, only things I was intrigued enough to try or tracks I knew I'd like.

Do I want to remove some songs from my HD? Yes. But I haven't, because they so rarely come up in random playlists, and sometimes people come over to jam that like them.

Do I wish there were other songs instead of some of the DLC releases? Of course. Anyone who says otherwise is crazy.

But I've been very satisfied so far. The DLC has let me discover some songs I never would have heard otherwise, and I really like now.

[DSOTM]

Geez, there are a lot of people on these forums that download every song they can for Rock Band. I feel like I'm the only one that just gets what he likes :<

[FamousLastX]

I've been quite content with what we've gotten. Have I liked every week? Of course not. But I can appreciate what they are doing and I'm sure the weeks where I was disappointed, some others were quite satisfied and vice versa. I have picked up my fair share of songs and it has added more life to an already fantastic game.

[mgoblue]

I have been happy with most of the DLC so far. I've downloaded at least one song a week excluding the NIN Pack, SXSW Pack and this weeks Thrash Pack as I couldn't fing even one song in any of those packs that I thought I would like to play or even listen to, so I passed.

[maskofskin]

I'm not thrilled every week, but the DLC has definitely kept me interested in the game and anticipating every new announcement.

[XxJAPAN4xX]

DLC for the win.

[RkBndDrmr]

I have about 75% of it. Overall they have done a great job. My only wish is that they stop with the themed weeks. Instead of 6 GD songs or a thrash pack, I'd would much rather see a mix each week. DLC has been great in expanding the game and keeping it fresh.

[capndan]

i love the DLC ok so every week its not the best but i do download alot of it (i have 101 songs)

and who dosent love seeing the forums go down on friday as everybody and there mom logs on to the rockband forms to see what tusedays DLC is going to be

[Serpentd]

Geez, there are a lot of people on these forums that download every song they can for Rock Band. I feel like I'm the only one that just gets what he likes :<

Nah man, your not alone. I get only the stuff I like. Not necessarily just know. If I've never heard a song I will You Tube it and if it sound halfway descent then I'll pick it up. But by no means would I buy everything just to have it. I will cater to my 7 year old daughter though with songs like Paramore which she actually knew and loves to sing to. Gotta love the DLC though, wouldn't be nearly as fun without it.:)

[Destnaru]

Considering that HMX is apparently trying to appeal to a very broad and diverse audience the DLC is not all that bad but so far in my opinion the general audience has been overlooked and obviously feels alienated.

If HMX would just put out some DLC content that appeals to the general audience it would go a long way to stifling a lot of the criticism.
For example, if they would have in addition to putting up a few thrash rock songs also put up at least one that appeals to the general audience like "99 Red Balloons" by Nena or "Doctorin the Tardis" by the KLF, many people wouldn't be saying that the whole week of DLC was terrible.
But putting up blocks of songs that only appeal to a narrow and specific genre of Rock music is going to be met with negative feed back by those that feel alienated.

[squiggerz]

Considering that HMX is apparently trying to appeal to a very broad and diverse audience the DLC is not all that bad but so far in my opinion the general audience has been overlooked and obviously feels alienated.

If HMX would just put out some DLC content that appeals to the general audience it would go a long way to stifling a lot of the criticism.
For example, if they would have in addition to putting up a few thrash rock songs also put up at least one that appeals to the general audience like "99 Red Balloons" by Nena or "Doctorin the Tardis" by the KLF, many people wouldn't be saying that the whole week of DLC was terrible.
But putting up blocks of songs that only appeal to a narrow and specific genre of Rock music is going to be met with negative feed back by those that feel alienated.

I'm normally not one for jumping into or spearheading a musical tastes debate, but how do you consider those two bands to be material that appeals to a general audience? I don't know anybody (ahhhhhhhhnnnnnyyyyyyboddddddddyyyy) that likes 99 Red Balloons. :P

[Joatmon]

Geez, there are a lot of people on these forums that download every song they can for Rock Band. I feel like I'm the only one that just gets what he likes :<

You aren't!:D

[bood-boy]

i LOVE DLC... a major reason as to why i signed up for XBL...

so far ive thoroughly enjoyed and never regretted getting...

metallica pack, police pack, black sabbath pack, HMX pack

fortunate son, jukebox hero, buddy holly, gimme three steps, hard to handle, limelight, interstate love song, number of the beast, all the small things, working man, we care a lot, truth hits everybody, sex type thing, el scorcho, march of the pigs, china cat sunflower, casey jones, beethoven's c***, shockwave, & d.o.a.


except for march of the pigs (which i regret getting) and the freezepop & srpode songs on the HMX pack, all the DLC has made the game 100X better, most of the DLC ive gotten is better than 90% of the songs in the game, and a few of the DLC tracks are the best songs in the game. without em, the game wouldnt be the same. my friends go over to ppl's houses who have the ps2 version, with no DLC, and tey come over and say "rockband sucks without the extra songs".. and anyone who doesnt have DLC and hears aout the songs i have, wishes they had the songs i have.

[killer_roach]

Again EXACTLY, you sir are obviously an intelligent person!

I don't think this generation understands the free market capitalist system...
You buy what you like, then they make more of what you bought and less of what you didn't.

If you buy EVERYTHING they make the "bean counters" have no way to show a chart in the staff meeting of what people ACTUALLY like (based on voting with your money), they can only assume that they are Gods gift to marketing because EVERYTHING they make gets snapped up regardless of quality, relevance or peoples wishes. Does that make sense to anyone else?

In a capitalism environment, people are supposed to "vote" with their money, that is how companies know what to make more of, if you don't buy it they will stop making it, if you buy it they will make more of similar items.

I think you have the capitalist system a bit confused.

In all reality, DLC purchases hinge around something known as "marginal willingness to pay". Basically, it means that someone will purchase an additional unit of something if the price is equal to or less than the amount of value that the purchaser perceives the unit to have. For me, somebody who plays multiple instruments and has diverse musical tastes (to say nothing of a decent amount of disposable income), my willingness to pay for most any song is much higher than, say, a high school student with narrower musical tastes having to buy DLC with their allowance. Obviously then, on Harmonix's side, they have to figure out a price that gets enough people to buy so that the revenue covers the production costs and gives them enough of an accounting profit to incentivize the creation of future content.

In a perfect system with only one supplier (as Harmonix is currently a monopoly holder as a provider of DLC until they provide tools for bands to import their own songs), Harmonix would probably charge somebody like me $3 a song and charge another group of people $1 or $2 a song trying to get the price for any particular person as close to their marginal willingness to pay as possible (perfect price discrimination), but there's no real foolproof way of being able to do this through a system like XBLA or the PS Store.

[Destnaru]

I'm normally not one for jumping into or spearheading a musical tastes debate, but how do you consider those two bands to be material that appeals to a general audience? I don't know anybody (ahhhhhhhhnnnnnyyyyyyboddddddddyyyy) that likes 99 Red Balloons. :P

Just because you don't like them or don't know anyone that likes them doesn't necessarily mean that no one likes them.
In contrast, most people that I know don't like thrash rock music.
I was just using those as an example anyway.
I fully expect that if you are stuck in a particular genre of Rock then you would say that songs like that suck.
Well personally I think that thrash rock sucks so it is a difference of opinion.
But I am not going to assume that no one likes thrash rock just because I don't and don't personally know anyone that does.

[Sveppi]

I like everything that I've downloaded for this game :D The NIN, Grateful Dead and Sabbath packs in perticular.

[S1ckH4nds]

For example, if they would have in addition to putting up a few thrash rock songs also put up at least one that appeals to the general audience like "99 Red Balloons" by Nena or "Doctorin the Tardis" by the KLF
Timelords. And you lost me. That's general audience appeal? A late 80's mashup of "Rock & Roll Pt. 2" and the Doctor Who theme? :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong, I have it on vinyl myself, but I'm not really sure out of the Rock Band target audience just how many people would be going "oh, I've got to spend my 160 MS points on that track". :D

Back on the topic of the original post, I've bought it all (except for the thrash pack, just because I haven't had a chance to DL it yet) and that's mainly because I look at it not as an iTunes Music Store, but instead as additional levels in a game I love playing. When using that perspective, of course I'm going to grab as much as possible. Case in point; hate the Dead, but am having a fun time playing bass on Franklin's Tower and I Need A Miracle. So roll on HMX -- keep putting it out there, and I'll keep grabbing it.

[Fatal_T]

I have no complaints with the DLC really. I buy what interests me, and if it doesn't catch my fancy (as in the Thrash Pack), I'll just wait till the next week.

Still can't believe they put out Calling Dr. Love - one of my all time favorite songs!

[Destnaru]

Timelords. And you lost me. That's general audience appeal? A late 80's mashup of "Rock & Roll Pt. 2" and the Doctor Who theme? :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong, I have it on vinyl myself, but I'm not really sure out of the Rock Band target audience just how many people would be going "oh, I've got to spend my 160 MS points on that track". :D


Don't get all fixated on the two songs that I mentioned.
I didn't necessarily mean that they should specifically add those two songs, I was only using them as an example.
It could just as easily be Joan Jett, Blondie, Pat Benatar, Etc. Etc.
I know you must be smart enough to know what I mean if you put some though into it.

Back on topic,
The DLC is ok but it would be a lot better if HMX would add some songs to the weekly content that have broader appeal.
At least one a week.

[trident5]

I really enjoy the DLC. They vary in style, and are great in their own way... Even that crappy 'We Care A Lot' song. Right now, I'm trying to only play DLC online, if I can. I'm tired of the Main Disk Songs right now. I'll give them another go soon.

I'm get the thrash pack, though I don't know if vocals will be fun.

[squiggerz]

Actually my point was that there is no 'general audience', it just doesn't exist. The term is meaningless. It's like the movie industry saying Finding Nemo is appropriate for General Audiences, that just means kids can watch it without their parents worrying about too much reality seeping into their brains. It doesn't necessarily mean that more people enjoy it than say, Hostel. I mean, say everybody knows the Barney theme song, it's unabrasive to most everyone but how many people would actually download it (assuming a chart could even be created, that is)?

But back to topic, yeah, I love the dlc. Even the fact that there are songs I haven't planned on downloading out there makes me happy just to know I have the option later on if I want to give it a try. HMX has really set the bar. Wonderwall and Thrasher have been two 'diamonds in the rough' for me.. I never liked Oasis but I gave WW a shot, and I love the chart for some reason. And thrasher.. well.. a challenge is always good. :)

[Sayburr]

Even the fact that there are songs I haven't planned on downloading out there makes me happy just to know I have the option later on if I want to give it a try. HMX has really set the bar.

Funny you say that, I opted not to buy the DLC released this week due to personal taste, so instead I picked up two Oasis songs because I didn't get them when they were released since I was on the fence with them. I still have a couple of songs I have not picked up yet that I may get later, depending on what the future holds. So, while I have not DLed them all, I know they are there if I change my mind.

HMX is doing a good job. No song or genre will appeal to everyone at one time, so releasing a wide range of songs is a great idea, one I hope they continue to do. Mostly because I am being exposed to new music. Last week was a great week in that I explored three new bands and picked up two songs. This week I explored three new bands again and picked up two songs (but the songs were from an earlier week). But, still, I am exploring new stuff, which makes me happy.

[whofan]

Concerning the DLC, I don't find it horrible but I do think it could have been much better.

A good chunk of the DLC choices seemed silly, as either they chose a band that really isn't very popular or known, or they chose a good band but then proceed to pick unknown or far less successful songs. I really do not understand Harmonix's need to often do this. I would imagine picking more successful bands and more successful tracks would of made good business sense, as it should of lead to more DLC purchases.

Of course at this point, they have only their sales to go by as an indicator of the market, and I have to wonder how much this indicator is being corrupted by the many, IMO, foolish people that feel like they have to purchase every DLC due to the faulty reasoning that if they don't, they wouldn't be saying "thank you" to Harmonix enough (like paying $170 for a game wasn't enough), or that if they don't, Harmonix would somehow run out of funding and desire to release more DLC in the future (which is ridiculous. considering lucrative as DLC is, low sales would simply cause them to start selecting more known and successful bands/tracks). Due note that I am not talking referring to people that download them all do to the "gotta get them all" pokemon/mmorpg collecting mentality. That reasoning is a bit more understandable as it seems to be a part of human nature, though I don't personally subscribe to that way of thinking. Anyway back on topic...

The only reasons I can possibly think of for the more obscure track choices over the more popular ones is either a) the record companies or the bands (however Harmonix needs permission from) only allows them access to these tracks (which seems very unlikely that they would make these choices), b) somehow Harmonix profits more off these choices, or c) the devs are just weird like that. I don't know, I personally don't get it.

Also note that I am in no way criticizing the genres they have covered with their DLC. Though some of the genres are not to my liking, I fully agree that they all should be represented so that there is something for everyone. All I am saying is that in many cases, I do not understand why they chose the tracks they did to represent many of the genres.

Anyway I will finish by saying that I have gotten much enjoyment out of my Rock Band purchase, and will continue to for some time. Perhaps, in a way, it is a good thing that they make some of these seemingly illogical choices. It helps save me from spending even more money than I already have for this game :p

I hope Harmonix devs read threads like this or else I wrote all this for nothing.

As many of you have undoubtedly noticed, I have really reduced my presence here as of late. This has been due to the very negative atmosphere this place has taken on as of late. HOWEVER, it's posts like these that bring me back to comment and hopefully enlighten

The above-poster can not understand the logic that goes into picking the DLC choices. Why not pick the most well-known songs? There are a couple of really good reasons as to why the tracks may be chosen. Let's look at some examples from the existing DLC:

The Police:
DLC Tracks: Roxanne, Can't Stand Losing You, Synchronicity II, Truth Hits Everybody

Out of this group 2 tracks can be considered "obscure". Let's begin with "Synchronicity II". Undoubtedly "Synchronicity II" was chosen due to the relative difficulty of the drum track. The guitar track is nothing terribly exciting, but presents a minor challenge at expert. As well, the vocals are an abosolute blast to sing along to (who wouldn't love to belt out "Yooooooooo" at the beginning or sing about the drudgery of everyday life?). Ask most Police fans and they'll point out that Synchronicity (The album of origin for this track) and Synchronicity II in particular are highlights in the Police career.

Now for "Truth Hits Everybody". This is obviously a pretty major obscurity for most who don't know The Police. However, it is easily a better suit for Rock Band than more popular songs like "Spirits In The Material World", "De Do Do Do, De Da Da Da", and "Invisible Sun". This one was undoubtedly chosen because it's a pretty good fit for the game.

The Clash:
DLC Tracks: I Fought The Law, Complete Control

Technically speaking both of these tracks are amoung The Clash's most popular, but I'll bite anyways. I Fought The Law, if you've heard The Clash, you've heard this song no doubt, so there's no point arguing anything about this track. The only obscurity would be "Complete Control", which was a single (a sucessful one at that). This was undoubtedly chosen over more popular songs like "London Calling" because it's a lot more active of a track than that song. Active on all parts means much more fun for the whole crew.

So, in conclusion, songs are undoubtedly chosen based upon fitness for the game first (i.e. is the song interesting and active enough to keep everyone (not just the guitarist or drummer) entertained?) and popularity second.

We will get "popular" stuff, but expect the developers to dig deep into catalogues to find those songs that are much more appropriate for this game.

BTW: This is not meant to be a hit against Simbacca at all, I'm not saying he's one of the overly negative people, but his post just served as a launching point for my explanation. As well, my thoughts on the DLC content some far is that it is simply amazing. Although there are many weeks where I don't get anything "new", that's why I stockpile reserve songs (i.e. We Care A Lot, War Pigs, NIB, Sweet Leaf). No other game offers this level of support, I'm loving it and encourage HMX to continue

[squiggerz]

Honestly the most marvelous thing about it all is their consistency, I mean every week something new comes out, it's not like people are having to wait months for new content, these guys are actually pumping out new stuff on a schedule, and that alone is worth the price tag of the game/gear alone for me. To know they have a (seemingly) consistent commitment to putting out new stuff (granted they are making a buck or two million off of it lol). So yeah, they just need to keep pumping out stuff and I'll rummage through and find something I like I'm sure :)

[Lanceres218]

I'm happy with what they come out with. Alot of the bands i dont know cause i am trying to expand my music listening so i download the song on limewire before i get the dlc. But if i dont like it i dont download simple as that. I dont whine about songs i want and other crap. They try to appeal to everyone. One week you will get what you want and another you wont. Just how it is going to be. Wait paicently and your songs im sure will come up at some point. HMX reads what people want and i am sure are doing what they can to get the songs we want. All i have to say.

[Flawless]

Absolutely, even on weeks when the music isn't my taste or a song is way too difficult, I can rest assured that the week after, or after that one there will be something I can download.

Variety is the spice of life, and Harmonix knows this.

Great work, keep it up.

:cool:

[cyanyde]

why are peeps hatin on paramore? that song is awesome

[bisq]

I hope they continue to make releasing songs that fit well in the game and have interesting parts the #1 priority, not just releasing the 'biggest hits'. I feel there should be some well known songs in the game but in my opinion there already are. If big (and often overplayed to death) hits is all someone cares about getting or if that is all their friends want to play and if they aren't interested in expanding their horizons much, then it seems to me they are more of a 'casual' player and their downloading habits should reflect that. You shouldn't feel like you have to get everything.

Remember that when it's all said and done there will be LOTS of songs available so eventually everyone should have quite a bit to choose from that they like, and some people that are fans of certain niches of music will have their favorites included as well.

Also, LOL at including 'bands that aren't known'. I've heard of almost every band so far in the DLC. The only ones I haven't heard of are a couple of the newer bands but I never once assumed nobody had heard of them, I just figured its because I don't listen to a lot of modern radio. Heck after 'crushcrushcrush' came out, I've now heard it multiple times in restaurants, the mall, etc. I'd probably heard it before but just not noticed.

[soonerintx]

A+ to Harmonix for how they have handled the DLC.

I have purchased most of the songs, in general I don't get a song only if I know I won't like it.

I know the DLC is successful for me b/c I find myself playing it a lot more than the songs in the main game.

They've done a good job with variety to keep all interested. Yes I hate the Thrash pack, but have no issues with them putting it out for the fans.

I would say that I would like to see some packs occassionally focus just on super popular songs and not necessarily on the merits/difficulty of each part. While when playing by myself I love the "hard" stuff, as a party game it works much better with songs that people know. And most people who don't have the game aren't playing past medium anyway.

Keep doing both and I'm happy. I didn't think I'd like the Shockwave song, and I know none of my friends will ever choose it, but it's hella fun to play. Conversely a song like "Hard to Handle" isn't that difficult to play solo, but is a definate crowd favorite and will be played very often at parties.

I find of the 116 songs I have, <30 get picked over an over again at my RB parties and it has nothing to do with the challenge of the parts.

[Purist]

About 12 songs here, which I thoroughly enjoyed. I like the opportunity to build up the music with the sub-genre you personally like, so it's like your own game, in a way. Good job, HMX, keep 'em coming.

[noobert]

in all honestly...id say 1/3 of it is stuff i like and thats pretty good otherwise id be broke spending all my money on dlc. im satisfied with it

[fatasthmatic]

ive actually enjoyed about 90% of the dlc so its going pretty good. but i havent got anything new since the nine inch nails pack. but i have every song before that.

[SuperDull]

I love it all, there are some songs that are def better than other but for the most part they are all rockin.

Keep up the good work HMX.

[S1ckH4nds]

Don't get all fixated on the two songs that I mentioned.
I didn't necessarily mean that they should specifically add those two songs, I was only using them as an example.
Yeah, I know... it just threw me off because I hadn't seen that specific song mentioned in a while, thought it was kind of odd. That's all.


The DLC is ok but it would be a lot better if HMX would add some songs to the weekly content that have broader appeal.
At least one a week.
True that. Honestly, I wouldn't mind seeing a regular six songs each week -- one three pack of mainstream / mass appeal stuff, and another three pack of indie / lesser known tracks. But then again, I guess it's all up to how well the sales do for HMX and whether or not they could keep up a pace such as that.

[simmias]

Timelords. And you lost me. That's general audience appeal? A late 80's mashup of "Rock & Roll Pt. 2" and the Doctor Who theme? :rolleyes: Don't get me wrong, I have it on vinyl myself, but I'm not really sure out of the Rock Band target audience just how many people would be going "oh, I've got to spend my 160 MS points on that track". :D

I hear HMX is going to combine it with Orbital's "Doctor Who Theme" and the Pogues' "Wild Cats of Kilkenny" for the Doctor Who Pack.

[Simbacca]

As many of you have undoubtedly noticed, I have really reduced my presence here as of late. This has been due to the very negative atmosphere this place has taken on as of late. HOWEVER, it's posts like these that bring me back to comment and hopefully enlighten...

Enlighten huh, someone's a bit full of themselves... :D I'm just kidding with ya bro.

When I first came to these forums, I noticed the largely negative atmosphere too. It really surprised, as I come here after and while spending much of my online time on another game forum that is extremely calm, constructive, and positive. Usually any destructive negativity there is denounced rather quickly. Anyway I try to maintain the same attitude here as I would like the overall atmosphere here to be more like there.


...So, in conclusion, songs are undoubtedly chosen based upon fitness for the game first (i.e. is the song interesting and active enough to keep everyone (not just the guitarist or drummer) entertained?) and popularity second...

I get that reasoning and do see it in some of the choices. I meant to make a note of this reasoning in my last post but simply forgot to while adrift creating that wall of text :p.

Still, there are many songs that I don't find have a particular interesting chart and are not very well known. These tracks therefore fail both priorities ('fitness' and popularity) IMO. An example of this is some of the NIN songs. I love playing Perfect Drug, but I don't find the other two songs that interesting to play nor listen to (of course this is IMHO, i only picked it because it is the closest example i could find out of what i downloaded).

Though I definitely agree 'fitness' should be the higher priority over popularity, one would think it still shouldn't drastically out-weigh from a business sense. You could make an incredibly interesting chart but if it's for a song that none ever even heard of, a vastly majority of owners' will never download it to see it (believe it or not everyone, most RB owners never visit online forums for discussion on DLC). To most RB owner's, this is a party game first and foremost, not a competition. Therefore getting some more known bands and known songs from the bands is more important to most RB owners than getting the new "zomg dis song is da new hardest song on expert" (guess I need to clarify as I knew this would be taken out of context, i am not saying all songs place 'fitness' over popularity are hard, this was just an example...).

Also I should clarify that I am not saying that obscure picks should never occur, I'm simply saying it should be a little less often.

And before ending this post I feel I should touch on another note that I am fully aware have seen many in this community seemingly oblivious to in my time here: Harmonix not only has to get permission to add songs to the game but they also can only ask for songs that still have master records saved away somewhere. There are so many songs requested from the sixties and seventies that Harmonix most likely just can't honor, not won't.

[bisq]

I get that reasoning and do see it in some of the choices. I meant to make a note of this reasoning in my last post but simply forgot to while adrift creating that wall of text :p.

Still, there are many songs that I don't find have a particular interesting chart and are not very well known. These tracks therefore fail both priorities ('fitness' and popularity) IMO. An example of this is some of the NIN songs. I love playing Perfect Drug, but I don't find the other two songs that interesting to play nor listen to.

Though I definitely agree 'fitness' should be the higher priority over popularity, one would think it still shouldn't drastically out-weigh from a business sense. You could make an incredibly interesting chart but if it's for a song that none ever even heard of, a vastly majority of owners' will never download it to see it (believe it or not everyone, most RB owners never visit online forums for discussion on DLC). To most RB owner's, this is a party game first and foremost, not a competition. Therefore getting some more known bands and known songs from the bands is more important to most RB owners than getting the new "zomg dis song is da new hardest song on expert".


First of all I thought March of the Pigs was a pretty well known song...its not a great fit for the game, but in terms of songs in the pack it's my favorite.

Second, although a lot of people don't buy any content, a lot of people buy all or most of the content. I feel this is where they are making a lot of money, from people hopelessly addicted to the game. If you want these people to continue to do so you need to make the charts fun to play so they stay on the bandwagon.

Third, to me fun to play is not the same as difficult necessarily. Especially for vocals but also for guitar. Although I'm not a super elite player, even if I was there are some songs that are hard that I don't think would be very fun (i.e. anything with too much fast strumming or fast chord changes that make your hand hurt).

[bmore007]

This is what my DLC consists of

Oasis Pack, Police Pack, Buddy Holly, El Scorcho, I fought The Law and Crushcrushcrush(picked up cause i only had $1.03 left on my psn account)

I may have one more I can't think of right now. Anyway I have really enjoyed what I have and i'm looking forward to adding a couple Nirvanna tracks, as well as Message In a Bottle and hopefully Rock 'n' Roll Star, Beetlebum and Hysteria.

[Munky2008]

I have been competely happy with all the dlc. I have all the Dlc just like Bisq above me. I enjoy a challange with every instrument. HMX has got me hooked with the DLC, and I beleive I will continue to get the DLC. This includes the not so famous Thrash Pack.

[Bukkethead]

I've bought most of it, and haven't been disappointed yet. I buy the stuff I like, don't buy the stuff I don't like (but don't begrudge it to others), and life's good.

[sundaygloom]

the DLC is cool, ive downloaded all the songs and continue to look forward to more everyweek. true, alot of the songs i dont really care for much, its all a matter of opinion, and theyre still fun to play, so whatever... a new venue for the DLC would be cool

[darknessmoon]

The fact that we're not all stuck with ONLY the songs on the disc and that we have options to EXPAND our game, should be more than enough reason for no one to ***** about the DLC (I'm not trying to imply that anyone here is *****ing, as I didn't read the whole thread this time).

But anyway, I am very satisfied with all the DLC I've purchased. Granted, I don't like all of it, but when I play with my friends and they see a setlist that consists of 131 songs, and they happen to select a song I don't like, I think to myself that I'm glad I bought it, cuz at least SOMEONE is enjoying it! :cool:

[Sarge51]

I think the DLC has been decent. But it would be nice to get something I know.