The Equivalent of Freebird - Finale Song for RB?

[Kaiser]

So me and my mates have all had speculations about what songs will be on it and what songs should be on it, but the ultimate question was one that had us stumped.

When playing guitar hero II, the most definitive song was Freebird - complete Freebird and you were a Rock God. It was the pinnacle of the career, and thus you had to finish that song before you finished the game.

So what would be the "Pinnacle Song" for RB? It would have to be a long song (as long if not longer than Freebird) and have individual solo bits and changing timing and rhythm throughout it. It would also have to be from a definitive, legendary rock band.

So my suggestion is Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but there is a lot of piano and a HUUUUGE strain on the singer as they will be trying to mimic Freddy Mercury which, as everyone knows, is extremely hard.

So what's your suggestions?

[bumbousdude25]

It's definitely gotta be Paradise City by Guns N' Roses.

I just heard that song and it definitely hits all the requirements: crazy, fast vocals; crazy, fast guitar; crazy, fast drums... heck, even the bassist is getting a workout through the entire song.

The last 2 min 11 sec is just a series of refrains with insane guitar solos and drum craziness. And, like I said, the vocals are pretty hard considering the fact that the dude sings kinda high-pitched and really fast. I tried to tune into the bass as well and it gets really fast at the end.

The song is also 6 min 47 sec long. Free Bird was obviously a long song too, and you really feel like you accomplished something when you beat it on expert. I think people will feel that way when they beat Paradise City on expert also.

Bohemian Rhapsody would be a good song to have in RB, but like you (Kaiser) said, the vocals are the main part of the song, and there's too much piano. Paradise City has it all.

[Kaiser]

Ah! Nice suggestion! Paradise City sure has it all, and it is done by one of the Greatest Rock Bands of all time. So that's definitely one to think about, HMX ;)

Any other suggestions?

[Ostrizoso]

How about a live version of Dazed and Confused? Maybe one similar to that on disc 2 of the BBC Sessions. You would have to cut out the violin bow section, as it would be hard duplicate with the controller.

[Kaiser]

That's going to be the hard bit - a lot of definitive Rock songs have other instruments involved - Bohemian Rhapsody has Piano, Dazed and Confused has Violin... and many others (including Kiss songs) have an entire orchestra behind them. Many also have sax, ala INXS. So the real problem is finding a way to utilize the extra instruments and maybe have a solo of an instrument instead, or simply cut those sections out, which, in my opinion, ruins the song.

[WingsOfSteel]

Too bad we already have a Rush song; they have plenty of epic songs with difficult drums, bass, and guitar.

[ConsumerWhore]

Simple. We need to go metal again.

We went metal in the first one: Ozzy Osbourne -- Bark at the Moon
We went metal in the 80s edition: Extreme -- Play with Me

Slipknot's "Wait and Bleed" would be truely, truely insane. Can you Drum like Joey? Go from soft to scream in 60 seconds like Corey? I'm still not for sure if that would be the 'big boss' song, though.

[Rock_Starman]

The End by The Doors

[Kaiser]

Slipknot is not a band. Its a choir.

And the annoying thing with Metal is exactly that "low and rough to high and noisy" change - which is extremely hard for most people and what if your singer is a girl? It's hard for them. I also don't think Rush is as "definitive" as G'n'R or LZ, but hey, they are great nonetheless.

The End by the Doors is also another good one. But an explanation as to why it would be good would be appreciated?

[Kang_Zircon]

I'd really like Foreplay/Longtime from Boston. Zeppelin's Achilles Last Stand has pretty difficult parts for all the instruments, but is a bit lacking on vocals. Rock and Roll is good too.

[Kaiser]

Oh thats another good point - most rock songs have strong music solos and great rifts, but some are lacking the vocal regards, as their solos go for a good while in contrast to the lyrical parts.

[HPLabonte]

The End by The Doors

i'm gonna second this, haha!

[Rock_Starman]

Explation? Isn't it obvious? It's the end of the game and the song is called The End. Also The Doors are certianly famous and iconic enough to deserve the last song and haven't been in a music game yet. (though have had songs in other games)

[Kaiser]

Well the name seems obvious, but regardless of how much The Doors rock and how they haven't featured in a music game yet, this does not define the song as a terribly "Rock Anthemy" song. Again, focus on all instruments and change of pace during the song.

[fried_blowney]

Paradise City would be my number 1 pick. For Those About To Rock (We Salute You) by AC/DC would be great if the drums weren't so easy. I'd also suggest Roundabout by Yes. The guitar parts are great, the drums aren't easy by any stretch, nor are the vocals; it's 8:35 of pure greatness.

[Coldplayer]

I know everyone hates me for this, and yeah, there is no drum at the beginning, I still think Stairway is THE perfect final song.

[WingsOfSteel]

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up

[chaopolis]

Rick Astley - Never Gonna Give You Up

OMG!!!! LIKE YES!!!! TAT WOOD BE TEH BEST!!!!!1!!1!!

RickRoll forever!

[Qstrike]

2112 by Rush would be an amazing finale song...
too bad there's not so much vocals....even than, there's still singing, and Neil Peart proves he's a drumming genius

[WingsOfSteel]

There are some parts, like Discovery, where it's just guitar and vocals and the drums/bass are doing nothing for three minutes, and like you said, parts without (much) vocals like Overture and The Grand Finale.

Still, I want 2112 for DLC, hopefully with the option to play the entire song or a certain section. (Temples of Syrinx and Presentation FTW)

[Prescott523]

I'm 99% sure there's a thread like this already. Use search, please.

[Teh_Jakester]

Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Iron Maiden. 14 or so minutes. Yay.

Maybe Catch the Rainbow by Rainbow. Yay.

[WingsOfSteel]

Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Iron Maiden. 14 or so minutes. Yay.

I have rarely agreed with you more.

[tombrady]

they should just put freebird in the game, not as the last encore obviously but who the hell wouldn't have fun busting out that solo again on the new frets down the neck. Who cares if the singer is only involved for like half hte song or less.

[WingsOfSteel]

Who cares if the singer is only involved for like half hte song or less.

About 25% of the people playing Rock Band?

[Rock_Starman]

focus on all instruments and change of pace during the song.

Well L.A. Woman would better fit that description. Lots of pace changing in that and would probably be really fun to play.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

Rime of the Ancient Mariner. Iron Maiden. 14 or so minutes. Yay.

Maybe Catch the Rainbow by Rainbow. Yay.

like i've said millions of times to deaf ears STAR GAZER is the ultimate final song. cozy powell demolishes his drum set with pwnful well uhh drumming, dio puts off his best vocal performance which is saying a lot since dio owns all, ritchie blackmore is a damn good guitarist who puts up one hell of a performance, and well the bass is adequate enough to satisfy his ass for 7 minutes. you guys seem to be forgetting that for rockband, the "freebird" would have to pwn for all instruments and not just a rockin guitar solo. sure star gazer doesn't have a long ass solo but for an overall song its pretty ****in badass

[Schultzy]

Ok, it WILL NOT be Bohemian Rhapsody, that's for sure. I know you people like Queen, I do to, but Bohemian Rhapsody is not good for rock band as an actual track. As DLC, perhaps, but it would never fly as the finale. Vocals are constant throughout, but this song, just like many Queen songs, are very heavily based around the piano, which is 80% of Bohemian Rhapsody.

Watch this video: http://youtube.com/watch?v=irp8CNj9qBI
As you can see, the bassist doesn't even come in till about a minute. Watch the bassist, HE LOOKS BORED. What does that tell you about the rest of the band members, just sitting there waiting to do something. Drums don't first come in til 1:20. Guitar doesn't first appear until 2:20, and even at that it has very few parts for him. Don't get me wrong, I love Bohemian Rhapsody and it would be cool for a final encore...IF THERE WAS A KEYBOARD PERIPHERAL. Until that time, it just won't work. Sorry guys.

As for Welcome to the Jungle, that most likely won't happen. Slash sold his and GnRs soul to GH3 and there isn't anything we can do about it. Guns and Roses will not be in Rock Band in any way, as much as I'd like em to be, they won't. Again, sorry guys.

I have no idea which song would be a good finale (I swear to God, if someone suggests Stairway one more time...), but I have thought it over for a long time. It should definitly be a classic song, one that's stood the tests of time. Which one that is, it's anyones guess, and certainly HMX's final decision. I'm sure we have nothing to worry about. They'll choose wisely. I have faith in them.

[mobird]

Ummm.... Ok, I'm sorry, I had to say something, how in the world has no one posted the most obvious choice that came to my mind.
One - Metallica

It has absolutely insane guitar and drums, and pretty awesome vocals. It's 7 and a half minutes long, lots of changes of pace, it seems to me the perfect choice. (The drum solo is sooo awesome.) Again, how has nobody thought of this yet?

[battle_axe_of_doom]

cuz that song is in gh3. also lmaorofllol@ insane drums and metallica in the same topic. lars is the ****tiest drummer in history

[mobird]

Are you kidding, listen to the double bass, I'd have to say that's pretty awesome. And, since that is in GH3, they have plenty of other great songs for that, Fade to Black, Welcome Home, Master of Puppets, and Ride the Lightning would be pretty sweet too.

[Ostrizoso]

The End by The Doors

I'd love to see this taken from a live performance where the song is even longer than on the studio album with a more sophisticated guitar piece. Think In Concert Disc 2, minus all the stuff about getting it on with his mom. I love Jim and all of his craziness, but that should not be put onto a video game that will be played by children across the country.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

Are you kidding, listen to the double bass, I'd have to say that's pretty awesome. And, since that is in GH3, they have plenty of other great songs for that, Fade to Black, Welcome Home, Master of Puppets, and Ride the Lightning would be pretty sweet too.

yeah double bass is a good way to see someone's skill :rolleyes:

[GameWiz68]

The Unforgiven by metallica :)

[Headbanger]

i'd love to see child in time...

[Tender-Surrender]

I would have to say something from Jimi Hendrix, preferrably Machine Gun, or maybe Change of Seasons from Dream Theater LOL. Yea that one is only 24 minutes long!

Imagine that 24 minutes of RB!

But yea for machine gun, it is minimal vocal, but an amazing guitar solo in the middle for about 4-5 minutes if not longer, and it is a 12 minute song.

And for Change of Seasons, well that is just a good song which is hella long haha.

I could think of more, but I am going to leave it at that.

[GameWiz68]

next person who mentions paradice city im punching in the face guns n roses will not be in rock band! as much As i want them in there, but Paradice city is a big NO NO theres better songs like night train and garden of eden.

plus my other suggestion is constant motion by DReam Theater

[danwaggs]

jesus of suburbia the song is long as hell and music changes like crazy and im pretty sure green day has proved themeselves not saying there the best band and this is the greatest song in the world but it fits the discription- as being a finale song like free bird because free bird isnt that greatest of a song but its fun to play because its so long it becomes a greater challenge to stay with it

[Kaiser]

I was merely saying that a great song like Bohemian Rhapsody would be great - but the vocals are the primary problem. The bassist can still pull of some great soloes in it, unfortunately I doubt that would be it.

And I doubt very much that this topic is here already. I will not use Search. Ever.

One by Metallica would be awesome - vocals are a bit heavy though.

And PLEASE NO STAIRWAY!!!!

[Kaiser]

I'd love to see this taken from a live performance where the song is even longer than on the studio album with a more sophisticated guitar piece. Think In Concert Disc 2, minus all the stuff about getting it on with his mom. I love Jim and all of his craziness, but that should not be put onto a video game that will be played by children across the country.

Main demographic for GHII (and consoles) is 19-35yo. I don't think they'll mind.

And I mean, they could always do what they did to Rage Against the Machine in GHII - simply change the lyrics! Oh wait, that wasn't Harmonix, that was the Record Company - heh, fancy that, "F*** you I want do what you told me" but they changed the lyrics because the Record Company told them to...:confused:

[tq6993]

Hey!!!! How About Duality By Slipknot??? Just A Suggestion...

[bumbousdude25]

jesus of suburbia the song is long as hell and music changes like crazy and im pretty sure green day has proved themeselves not saying there the best band and this is the greatest song in the world but it fits the discription- as being a finale song like free bird because free bird isnt that greatest of a song but its fun to play because its so long it becomes a greater challenge to stay with it

LMAO GREEN DAY!?! I mean, I like Green Day and all, but... for ROCK BAND???? That would be so easy as a final song it's not even funny. Plus, everyone's sick of that song. Again, I'm not trying to put down Green Day, and I think JOS is a pretty good song, BUT we have to think about the masses. And, in the grand scheme of things, there really are so many better songs out there that fit the bill.

GameWiz68 - "next person who mentions paradice city im punching in the face guns n roses will not be in rock band! as much As i want them in there, but Paradice city is a big NO NO theres better songs like night train and garden of eden."

All I have to say to you, sir, is... well... there's always a chance GNR will be in RB. Furthermore, in regards to my post at the beginning of this thread, I was just excited because I had just heard the whole song a few minutes before I posted.

I do think it should be in RB, and it would be a good candidate for the final song.

[danwaggs]

yo thanks for not being a total ***** with your reply im sick of all of these a$$hole no it alls thinking there music gods or something because alot of the song people are picking are good songs but would be completely impossible for a mass amount of people to play they would just get piss off and quit j o s is a very compex song it might sound like some pretty basic riffs but think about how much that song bounces around it wouldnt be easy to keep up with also yeah its been over played on the radio but isnt every good song that comes out draged into the ground when it first gets played

[Kaiser]

Too much lead break, not enough singing in my regard.

And Im still thinking more definitive. Ill put it to you this way:

Freebird. Your entire career hangs here - this is it, the ultimate song - and youre playing at STONEHENGE, the ULTIMATE place for Legend Rock Bands to play. The flying saucer comes down and takes you away - and you join the likes of Elvis Presley, Michael Hutchins and Kurt Cobain. The words "Live and Let Rock" come into the scene - and you put down the guitar and yell "YES!" at the screen. Maybe do a little jig.

That's the type of song and classic finesse required for the finale song. Think about that exact feeling after beating Freebird on Expert - and multiply it by four after you AND your mates have completed it. It was be euphoria of the likes noone has ever seen before.

Yes, there are a lot of great songs, but in reality, are they TRULLY Rock Anthems? Are they there as ultimate songs to play and beat and be rated up there with Rock Gods? Freebird is up there as an anthem - Lynyrd Skynyrd themselves were legends, may their souls rest in Rock.

It is a hard dilemma, but a worthwhile one, I believe.

[Nilsen581]

Green Grass & High Tides - The Outlaws


wut would be amazing is the 20:58 live version...lol!!

but seriously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk

[Nilsen581]

Green Grass & High Tides - The Outlaws


wut would be amazing is the 20:58 live version...lol!!

but seriously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk

5:40 is where it really picks up.

But there are solos throughout...

seriously I challenge someone to find a better song.


I would die of excitement if this was in RB...I seriously can't beleive how good of a song it is.

[Rock_Starman]

Oh,I know. No ones said it yet and it's so epic it takes up 2 vids on youtube,famous enough,has guitar and drum solos and is 1 second away from being exactly as long as Free Bird and Stairway COMBINED:

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:)

[polishdog90]

I can think of a few:
-Welcome Home (Sanitarium) - Metallica:
It starts of slow, but builds into an intense song (kind of like freebird)

-Master Of Puppets - Metallica:
Epic guitar and good for all instruments

-Crazy Train - Ozzy Osbourne :
A classic and still difficult

-Through Fire and Flames - Dragonforce:
This would just be impossible on all the instruments

-Thunderstruck - AC/DC
Would be fun, but maybe a bit boring on drums/bass

-Layla - Eric Clapton/Derek and the Dominos
Good all around

-White Room - Cream
Awesome Wah on guitar and drums would be cool too

-Purple Haze - Jimi Hendrix
Who wouldnt love to finish with a Hendrix Jam

On any songs with long instrumentals the singer can just play percussion parts, so its not that huge of a deal if a song doesnt has long instrumental breaks.

[artdarkheart]

well...two long and good songs:

-in a gadda da vida - iron butterfly (arround 17 minutes)

-i heard it through the grapevine - creedence clearwater revival (arround 11 minutes)

[whofan]

next person who mentions paradice city im punching in the face guns n roses will not be in rock band! as much As i want them in there, but Paradice city is a big NO NO theres better songs like night train and garden of eden.

plus my other suggestion is constant motion by DReam Theater

Who says that GnR will not be in Rock Band? Has anybody confirmed that GnR is GHIII exclusive, or is this another wild assumption? Just because Slash is a character in GHIII does not mean that he took all the rights to everything with him.

Post me a link to where it says GnR will be exclusive to GHIII and I'll believe it (Provided it's a legit source) something's not sitting right about this, as I do not believe that Slash owns the rights to the entire GnR catalogue (I thought I read somewhere that Axl made the others sign over the song rights when he made them sign over the band name to him, but I'm not possitive about that)

Regardless, I think that "The Show Must Go On" By Queen would be a great way to end the game. It's got several tempo changes, great vocals, awesome solos, great drums and a bassline that once it gets rocking just doesn't let up.

(Youtube isn't working right now, so I can't get a video clip, but look it up!)

[The_Wurm]

heres my opinion

Boston (http://www.rockband.com/vbforum/showthread.php?t=3973)

[The_Wurm]

whooopsies

[lithiumkc]

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[lithiumkc]

Seriously, epic song.

[Nilsen581]

Green Grass & High Tides - The Outlaws

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk



Seriously, I wanna know what you guys think...song really picks up at 5:40...and the last 4 mins are amazing...

not that the first 5:40 is bad, its rockin.

[bubbameister]

I think Highway Star could be a good finale song. Its long and has plenty of vocals, two solos, and a great drum beat.

I also think L.A. Woman would be a great finale song because it has all members of the doors working perfectly together. But there is a lot of keyboards in the song though.

Both of these songs don't really live up to free bird either.

[Phrank-E]

Let's keep with the southern rock never ending solo:

Green Grass and High Tides - The Outlaws or
Gator Country - Molly Hatchet



Just changed my mind... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiOjAMMr3fM

Stranglehold is a much better song.. But is far too slow paced to be the final be all end all.


Green Grass and High Tides would be a killer to get through though..... Thought Freebird was bad?

[LavatoryLoveMachine]

Slipknot is not a band. Its a choir.

And the annoying thing with Metal is exactly that "low and rough to high and noisy" change - which is extremely hard for most people and what if your singer is a girl? It's hard for them. I also don't think Rush is as "definitive" as G'n'R or LZ, but hey, they are great nonetheless.

The End by the Doors is also another good one. But an explanation as to why it would be good would be appreciated?

Slipknot is NOT metal, so your argument against metal is unvalid. There are no rela metal bands that go from low and rough to high pitch. Its one or the other. Only nu metal and alternative metal, neither of them metal, do that ridiculous shift.

Man, is this argument getting old? Sorry, I just get bored when I got no new messages in Myspace.

The song at the end has to be truly, truly epic. Free Bird was epic, almost non of the songs mentioned here are that epic. I personally believe it has to be an old song, a landmark.

I play Free bird and Im doing great until the ****ing solo comes along lol My fingers hurt lol But I wont give up till I get 5 stars

[Boomshine]

"Seven Nation Army" - White Stripes

No seriously, though, I think whatever the finale is should be kept secret until the very end when someone unlocks it in game for the first time, and then releases it to the internet like the fool they are, wanting some form of recognition for being the first person to spoil the surprise at the end for everyone. :mad: I'm already pissed off at the bastard.

[Kaiser]

Slipknot is NOT metal, so your argument against metal is unvalid. There are no rela metal bands that go from low and rough to high pitch. Its one or the other. Only nu metal and alternative metal, neither of them metal, do that ridiculous shift.

Man, is this argument getting old? Sorry, I just get bored when I got no new messages in Myspace.

The song at the end has to be truly, truly epic. Free Bird was epic, almost non of the songs mentioned here are that epic. I personally believe it has to be an old song, a landmark.

I play Free bird and Im doing great until the ****ing solo comes along lol My fingers hurt lol But I wont give up till I get 5 stars

Dude I agree with you! We need EPIX. None have been Epix so far.

And yes, Epix with an X. Coz its cool.

This is the same problem we've had with my buddies, we just cant seem to decide on an Epic ending song...

[Vigorousjammer]

Oh,I know. No ones said it yet and it's so epic it takes up 2 vids on youtube,famous enough,has guitar and drum solos and is 1 second away from being exactly as long as Free Bird and Stairway COMBINED:

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:)
i'm gonna have to say this... In A Gadda Da Vida seems like a good choice for a finale song... however, it does have the keyboard solo in there... I think theres enough keyboarding in Rock in general to make a keyboard controller, anyways... not exactly how they'd do it... but hey, maybe for Rock Band 2...

a better finale song i think would be Roundabout by Yes, as somebody else has already said...
although, i'm sure the people at Harmonix already have one picked out for the finale, anyways...

[RokThor]

So why all the ire against Stairway, gang? Sure, it's not the toughest tune in the world, but neither is Free Bird.
A number of songs would work in this capacity. It just needs to feel like "historical God-Stuff."
My personal vote is Hotel California, but who knows? If they love music, HMX will do it right.

T

[Axel32]

Why hate on stariway? the entire song is nothing but Vocals and Guitar.. with very little drumming and litte, if any, Bass.. Stairway is not suited for Rock Band, that goes in Guitar Hero's corner.

[Nilsen581]

I'm telling you guys, this song would make the perfect encore song...starts out kinda slow and gets ridiculous after 5:40

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on one of their live albums theres a 21 minute version which is unbelievable and theres a 17 min version on youtube...but this 9 min studio version would fit perfectly for Rock Band.

[WingsOfSteel]

Plus, the first five and a half minutes of the guitar part are the same ten seconds worth over and over. Freya wasn't even that repetitive.

Also, while Freebird wasn't the hardest, it was still hard.

Stairway is very easy for 7 minutes and has a Tier-3-level solo for 30 seconds.

[Kaiser]

So why all the ire against Stairway, gang? Sure, it's not the toughest tune in the world, but neither is Free Bird.
A number of songs would work in this capacity. It just needs to feel like "historical God-Stuff."
My personal vote is Hotel California, but who knows? If they love music, HMX will do it right.

T

Its got nothing to do with that - its a fantastic song, but unfortunately, that's why it can't be there. Stairway to Heaven has never, and WILL NEVER be covered. Ever. Its too perfect as it is.

[Nilsen581]

Let's keep with the southern rock never ending solo:

Green Grass and High Tides - The Outlaws or
Gator Country - Molly Hatchet



Just changed my mind... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LiOjAMMr3fM

Stranglehold is a much better song.. But is far too slow paced to be the final be all end all.


Green Grass and High Tides would be a killer to get through though..... Thought Freebird was bad?

Totallyyyyyyyyyyy

Gator Country rules... Molly Hatchet has a bunch of good songs for RB/GH.

Dreams I'll Never See and Fall Of The Peacemakers to name a couple.

[WingsOfSteel]

Its got nothing to do with that - its a fantastic song, but unfortunately, that's why it can't be there. Stairway to Heaven has never, and WILL NEVER be covered. Ever. Its too perfect as it is.

Dolly Parton.

OK, it definitely doesn't touch the original, but it's a very interesting take on it.

[bumbousdude25]

Who says that GnR will not be in Rock Band? Has anybody confirmed that GnR is GHIII exclusive, or is this another wild assumption? Just because Slash is a character in GHIII does not mean that he took all the rights to everything with him.

Post me a link to where it says GnR will be exclusive to GHIII and I'll believe it (Provided it's a legit source) something's not sitting right about this, as I do not believe that Slash owns the rights to the entire GnR catalogue (I thought I read somewhere that Axl made the others sign over the song rights when he made them sign over the band name to him, but I'm not possitive about that)



YES! YES! You are awesome, my friend, and I totally agree with you.


In regards to all else, Ina - Gadda - Da - Vida would be cool (though maybe not as a finale) and Hotel California would be really good as a finale.

[Rock_Starman]

Epic final song huh? Faith No More? :p Well that really should be the first song (if difficulty wasn't a factor) and we already know it's in the game.

[CriticalAcclaim]

I honestly think Dream Theater should be in the game regardless of final song or not.

Dream Theater - The Glass Prison is my suggestion. 10 mins something.
Van Halen - Eruption
Metallica - Master of Puppets
Iron Maiden - The Number of the Beast. God that vocal intro would be good XD I know it's on GH3

[FrankieB]

So me and my mates have all had speculations about what songs will be on it and what songs should be on it, but the ultimate question was one that had us stumped.

When playing guitar hero II, the most definitive song was Freebird - complete Freebird and you were a Rock God. It was the pinnacle of the career, and thus you had to finish that song before you finished the game.

So what would be the "Pinnacle Song" for RB? It would have to be a long song (as long if not longer than Freebird) and have individual solo bits and changing timing and rhythm throughout it. It would also have to be from a definitive, legendary rock band.

So my suggestion is Bohemian Rhapsody by Queen, but there is a lot of piano and a HUUUUGE strain on the singer as they will be trying to mimic Freddy Mercury which, as everyone knows, is extremely hard.

So what's your suggestions?

I think its important to separate GH2 from RB, only because songs that were difficult for GH2 might not be as difficult for RB, depending on vocals and drums. My ideal "Pinnacle Song", as you put it, would have to be something complex and technical, and extremely fun to play, across all instruments.

I don't want to be one of those guys and just blurt out something like Stairway to Heaven, but at the same time I can't really think of anything that could constitute as the complete, entire band, expert final song.

I am sure whatever the decision is, its going to be a great song, and frankly I cannot wait.

[Cr1ckt]

The Doors have no bassist...= problem with choosing the End.
CriticalAcclaim, i don't know whether you were actually suggesting eruption or not, but it's kind of a guitar solo. However, Hot For Teacher would be hard for at least drums and guitar. I don't know much about its bass line, and the vocals are not too difficult.
I agree that Paradise City is a very likely candidate for the final song. It has the difficulty and the starpower.
For the Rush fans who wanted to go with a progressive song, I would suggest Roundabout by YES. It has sweet parts for all instruments, and it clocks in at over eight minutes, with tempo and time changes. I think it could reasonably represent a standard of difficulty, when considering the setlist so far.
However, it would be pretty exciting to see a Led Zeppelin track as the final song. I had always figured that Harmonix would choose Black Dog if they got the band to agree. Achilles Last Stand could be an interesting choice for the last song.

[Apples]

This was answered in the podcast yesterday. The final song in the campaign is going to be different on a per-instrument basis. For example, The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" was tentatively stated as the final drum song. The final guitar song was not announced yet.

[battle_axe_of_doom]

vocals = STAR GAZER

[Pluto2493]

Hotel California

[MasterTick]

-Through Fire and Flames - Dragonforce:
This would just be impossible on all the instruments


Hell, anything Dragonforce would be an awesome finale, wide range of vocals, insane guitar solos, insane rhythm guitar, insane drums.

[cooldude93]

This was answered in the podcast yesterday. The final song in the campaign is going to be different on a per-instrument basis. For example, The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" was tentatively stated as the final drum song. The final guitar song was not announced yet.

well if they are having different final song for different intruments then Queen will probably be the Vocal finale

[SmashingPumpkin]

Don't Stop Believin'. Come on everyone loves Journey.

[cooldude93]

Don't Stop Believin'. Come on everyone loves Journey.

I luv that song as well but its mostly piano and vocals for the first part of the song .....this is my chose for finale song <object width="425" height="350"><param name="movie" value="http://www.youtube.com/v/9fad25vmn4U"></param><param name="wmode" value="transparent"></param><embed src="http://www.youtube.com/v/9fad25vmn4U" type="application/x-shockwave-flash" wmode="transparent" width="425" height="350"></embed></object>:cool: :D :p :rolleyes:

[Nilsen581]

I'm telling you guys, this song would make the perfect encore song...starts out kinda slow and gets ridiculous after 5:40

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on one of their live albums theres a 21 minute version which is unbelievable and theres a 17 min version on youtube...but this 9 min studio version would fit perfectly for Rock Band.

THE OUTLAWS.... THEY HAVE 2 DRUMMERS AND LIKE 4 GUITARISTS!!!

[RokThor]

Gotcha...makes sense.
I'm still thinkin in GH mode. It would be pretty stinking boring for the other players. Maybe this should be in solo guitar mode though?

[jlc510]

To match Free Bird, I'd say One by Metallica, but then again who knows.

[fried_blowney]

Roundabout. End of story. Even with the keyboard solo it's still a rockin' song for everyone involved.

[PinkFloyd]

cuz that song is in gh3. also lmaorofllol@ insane drums and metallica in the same topic. lars is the ****tiest drummer in history

Cherub Rock tends to disagree with that reasoning.

[polishdog90]

If they had The End by the doors I would actually sing. Even if they didnt put it in the game, I would always yell: "Father I want to kill you... Mother I want to **** you." It would be so epic. You can just make the bassist play the keyboard bass part so thats not super important.

Also every single time I play won't get fooled again, I will be powersliding. Most likely ripping the chord out of the xbox and getting some sort of youve been rocking too hard screen.

If were dividing it by catagories:
Guitar- Metallica
Drums- The Who/Rush
Bass- Chili Peppers or Rush
Singing- The End- The Doors

Also it doesnt need to be 10 minutes long just to be the last song. In GH1 and Rock the 80s they werent really long songs.

[blue_dragonzero]

Once again, I belive in career specific finales. Of course you could play other instruments in quick play if you wanted...

[Kang_Zircon]

Once again, I belive in career specific finales. Of course you could play other instruments in quick play if you wanted...

So, no World Tour mode finale?

[BarryC]

As for Welcome to the Jungle, that most likely won't happen. Slash sold his and GnRs soul to GH3 and there isn't anything we can do about it. Guns and Roses will not be in Rock Band in any way, as much as I'd like em to be, they won't. Again, sorry guys.


Sir, no one even said Welcome to the Jungle and Slash is no longer affiliated with Guns N' Roses anymore.

[TheBends]

I was saying if it wanted to be an epic thing it could have a final venue at woodstock and have the final song be a hendrix. If it wanted to focus on the guitar a little it could go his national anthem to purple haze. If not whats wrong with all along the watchtower.

[Elnino]

Hmmmm..

Guns N' Roses-Paradise City
AC/DC-It A Long Way to the Top
AC/DC-Thunderstruck
Ozzy Osbourne-Crazy Train

Just a few.

[b0x1080]

I am too lazy to check to see if it has been said but rock of ages would be a good ending.

Plus it would give me an excuse to wear my tight bitish flag shorts and drum with out a shirt on.

[HPLabonte]

Stairway to Heaven has never, and WILL NEVER be covered. Ever. Its too perfect as it is.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfoccRna6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iM63kqnwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnnsL0ValJc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2LWWQAARA

=P

[Headbanger]

i think i probably just found the perfect final song for rock band: it's definitely not a famous song, but it's just freakin' TOUGH.
Galneryus - New Legend.

[jonfitzsimon]

This was answered in the podcast yesterday. The final song in the campaign is going to be different on a per-instrument basis. For example, The Who's "Won't Get Fooled Again" was tentatively stated as the final drum song. The final guitar song was not announced yet.

So with that being said. Why couldnt Bohemian Rhapsody be the vocals finale song?

[jonfitzsimon]

I wouldnt mind All along the Watch Tower, by Jimi Hendrix for the complete band finale. All of the instruments have great parts, plus the vocals are awesome.

[Akaymay]

Guns N Roses - Paradise City

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Guns N Roses - Nightrain

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AC/DC - Thunderstruck (Already Noted for you, Harmonix!)

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Van Halen - Panama

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I got a ton, but I won't load up the page with Youtube videos.

[Ardius]

Despite it being overplayed sometimes,
Hallowed Be Thy Name - Iron Maiden
or
Seventh Son of a Seventh Son, Phantom of the Opera, Rime of the Ancient Mariner, The Loneliness of the Long Distance Runner or Powerslave.

Hallowed Be Thy Name:
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Seventh Son of a Seventh Son:
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Phantom of the Opera:
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Trying to sing like Bruce Dickinson (or Paul Di'Anno) is going to be quite an achievement, plus Steve Harris is one of the best bass players around, Dave Murray and Adrian Smith are one of the most respected harmonising guitar-duos around (Janick Gers is awesome too though) and Nicko McBrain is pretty insane with his drum kit.

Either that or:
Painkiller - Judas Priest
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would be a nice way to end.

[bumbousdude25]

Hmmmm..

Guns N' Roses-Paradise City





Guns N Roses - Paradise City


Paradise City FTW!!!

[BarryC]

HMX is sitting on something really brilliant, I'd suppose. If they were using a master in that "leaked" video of them playing Welcome to the Jungle, I'm sure there will be a Guns N' Roses song in the final game and I really hope it's Paradise City :)

[Silver]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3WfoccRna6I
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3iM63kqnwY
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HnnsL0ValJc
http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=mF2LWWQAARA

=P

My favorite one. (http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=Gq9xU3rPltE)

[Nfsjunkie91]

Didn't read through the entire thread, but I think Highway Star would probably make a pretty good finale song, plus it's already been announced.

[Spear_of_Destiny]

Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime", "Silent Lucidity" or "Empire".


Type O Negative's "Christian Woman" or "Black No. 1"


Concrete Blonde's "God is a Bullet" or "Bloodletting: The Vampire Song"


We can also say YES to "Stairway to Heaven"

[blue_dragonzero]

Queensryche's "Operation Mindcrime", "Silent Lucidity" or "Empire".


Type O Negative's "Christian Woman" or "Black No. 1"


Concrete Blonde's "God is a Bullet" or "Bloodletting: The Vampire Song"


We can also say YES to "Stairway to Heaven"

I don't see Christian Woman on the T rated main setlist... But Queensryche would be great!

[jonfitzsimon]

What about "She talks to Angles" as the vocals finale and "American Pie" for the entire band finale.

[Spear_of_Destiny]

You know, I was watching that Queen clip a few pages ago, and i was thinking to myself "Damn, Freddie Mercury looks EXACTLY like Franknfurter from Rocky Horror".
Which got me thinking... "You know, Hot Patootie from Rocky Horror is a pretty badass song. Meatloaf and all...".


But yeah, Queensryche is my favorite all time band. (FZ is my favorite all time musician). I saw Dream Theater mentioned and thought why not "Pull Me Under"?

[Spear_of_Destiny]

Another thought....how about "Du Hast" by Rammstein? Its not terribly difficult german, and pretty much everyone thinks they know how to sing it anyway... :D

[Murderous_Urges]

I'd say something like Hallowed be thy Name or Fear of the Dark by Iron Maiden

[welshy32]

Blind Guardian - And Then There Was Silence.. about 16 minutes worth! It changes speed/power etc.. would be great!! Failing that, pretty much anything by Dream Theatre would be ace!

[dime6457]

Hmmmm i would defentily have to say cemetary gates by Pantera

Dime was one if not the best gutarest ever

and his brother vinnine was phenominal on the drums and rexs basslines were great

and Phil Anselmo started a lot of the singing we use in our music todady

And cemetary gates is defintally the best song for rock bands finally song

[Shredder]

I would definitely say Iron Maiden is the best band for the final encore. Insane across all the instruments and really underrated vocals. Hallowed be Thy Name, Phantom of the Opera, Run to the Hills or basically anything from them would be awesome.

[Rocker2]

jesus of suburbia the song is long as hell and music changes like crazy and im pretty sure green day has proved themeselves not saying there the best band and this is the greatest song in the world but it fits the discription- as being a finale song like free bird because free bird isnt that greatest of a song but its fun to play because its so long it becomes a greater challenge to stay with it

yeah Jesus of Suburia would be great and so would a live version of The End by The Doors (it's really long and a great song) And as far as Stairway to Heaven is concerned it will probably be the final song in GH3.

[stlbss]

Paradise City is my #1 for the finale. I was happy when GH III did not include it, and hope like heck it closes out Rock Band. To me, it is the greatest rock song of all time. Vocals would be hard, drums would be hard, and the guitar would be insane the last two minutes of the song. Love it.

[foolosophy]

Scorpions - Coming Home

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Ok I apologize for my inner Scorpions-fanboy coming out there, continue with the thread.

[Sleepy211]

i WOULD LOVE TO HAVE " Green Grass and High Tides" From the Outlaws as a Finale .

but that probably wont be the case ! even though it has all the similarites as Free Bird

1. Southern Rock
2. Long as Hell
3. Awsome Solos
4. Not alot of singing involved
4. it's a classic rock song with plenty of difficulty .

Personally i think Metallica will make it as the final song but if there was a song to compete as a final dificult track . It would be Green Grass and High Tides



man my fingers are gonna be sore playing that track over and over !

[Ardius]

i WOULD LOVE TO HAVE " Green Grass and High Tides" From the Outlaws as a Finale .

but that probably wont be the case ! even though it has all the similarites as Free Bird

1. Southern Rock
2. Long as Hell
3. Awsome Solos
4. Not alot of singing involved
4. it's a classic rock song with plenty of difficulty .

Personally i think Metallica will make it as the final song but if there was a song to compete as a final dificult track . It would be Green Grass and High Tides



man my fingers are gonna be sore playing that track over and over !

Im going to make some points for why Run to the Hills will be the last song in a similar fashion:
1. Its Iron Maiden, they are the masters of encores.
2. Awesome solo
3. Quick pace for all instruments
4. Singing.......yeah, come on, you aint going to be 5 starring expert
5. Bass - best metal bassist in the world, everyone knows it
6. Its a classic metal song, not the most difficult, but more difficult than the average rock song.
7. Drums......nice intro and its pretty intense, but again, there are harder drums out there even in Maiden's own material.

[Nilsen31]

The 4 - 5 minutes straight of guitar playing will lead to Green Grass being one of the last songs.

[Nilsen31]

Green Grass & High Tides - The Outlaws


wut would be amazing is the 20:58 live version...lol!!

but seriously: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R82OM5tzcrk



called it in early September!



and yes, i forgot I had a name on here and created another one :D

[ChiSoxChampions]

all along the watchtower? or my personal favorite "can't stand losing you" by the police. they should at least put that song in the damn game it'd be sweet. or maybe something by system of a down, like aerials.

[ChiSoxChampions]

Im going to make some points for why Run to the Hills will be the last song in a similar fashion:
1. Its Iron Maiden, they are the masters of encores.
2. Awesome solo
3. Quick pace for all instruments
4. Singing.......yeah, come on, you aint going to be 5 starring expert
5. Bass - best metal bassist in the world, everyone knows it
6. Its a classic metal song, not the most difficult, but more difficult than the average rock song.
7. Drums......nice intro and its pretty intense, but again, there are harder drums out there even in Maiden's own material.





definitely, i was going to say run to the hills would be great

[ckymt1]

I think the finale needs to be a dream theatre song.

Most of their songs are atleast 10 minutes and...well... you just need to listen to some before you know what you will know after you knew about knowing to listen to dream theatre.

[beastsvengence]

i've thought they should put more malmsteen in guitar games

id also vouch for stargazer and other dio songs

however on the scale of length and epicness combined with great parts for all instruments both seperately and together, i can think of 1 perfect song

2112

[RastamanD]

I Know what it should be.....i know becase last nigh this native american guy brought me into the desert and jim morrison was there, he said the finale song for Rock band should be...the waynes world intro..........................JK i think it should be somethink pink and something floyd

[Mournblade77]

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[presticle]

I say it should be "Green Grass & High Tides" by the Outlaws. Oddly enough, I saw this morning that this song is included in RB.

[Queenfreak39]

Zeppelin's Since Ive Been Loving You

It would be almost perfect for RB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=89yw7wqoaio

[hobbesdream]

The End by The Doors

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[LordFrieza]

Fear of the Dark by Iron Maiden would be my pick. The song changes paces nicely and I'm positive (much like ANY Iron Maiden song) it will be a challenge to play all parts.

[Atsumi]

I think it would be great if they put Tribute by Tenacious D. Only because it would be humorous.

Finale: "Couldn't remember the greatest song in the world. NO! This is a tributeeee"

[senomar]

^That would own, but I don't think it would be a good finale.

But I think the final song will be either something by Liquid Tension Experiment or some cliche classic rock song that every 12-year-old and their mother have been overplaying for 35 years.

[Nilsen31]

Green Grass & High Tides is simply one of the greatest songs ever written.

[blackmageyapo]

Brighton Rock - Queen

Its only about 5 minutes studio, but if you got a live performance those go for like 15 minutes.

Difficult vocals, difficult guitar, difficult bass, the drums sound like they could be challenging as well. Anyhow, whoever mentioned bass in Queen songs before its because John Deacon is a beast.

Edit: VVV I'm still gonna to for Brighton Rock, but that would be another acceptable choice VVV

[CableCarrier]

Ogre Battle is the only acceptable Queen ending song.

[Sora124]

Metropolis Pt 1: The Miracle and the Sleeper by Dream Theater, for three reasons:

1. Dream Theater hasn't been featured in any music/rhythm game yet

2.It will be a very challening song that has difficult parts for all instruments, although not so much for the vocals

3. They play it live as an encore anyways, I think it would be very fitting.

[HPLabonte]

Green Grass & High Tides is simply one of the greatest songs ever written.

I just heared it for the first time, and oh man, is this song INCREDIBLE! I heared it on Sirius Radio, and I was incredibly impressed so I had to buy it, I really think this is the final-freebird-style-song. That is, if Won't Get Fooled Again isn't the final song.




The End by The Doors

That would be more epic than faith no more

[predtime]

vocals = STAR GAZER

STARGAZER fo sho'.

that's a good suggestion.

ALSO I think "In a gadda da vida" would be a good idea as well. It just takes a while for vocals . . .

[jasotastic]

-in a gadda da vida - iron butterfly (arround 17 minutes)


Nice choice, assuming that Kansas' Magnum Opus was after that (A. for being longer B. for being just a little better)

[RAVEN1248]

i would have to say the final song for RB should actually be probably one of the greatest metal songs of all time.............................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. .................................................. ..............MASTER.............................. ......MASTER......................MASTER OF PUPPETS.............

and if you dont know who its by...... then what the hell have you been doing for the past 20 years

[Badosh]

ok so lets go other this again?
1: Ozzy Osbourne -- Bark at the Moon -- 4:17
2:Lynerd Skynerd -- Free Bird -- 9:07
80's: Extreme -- Play with Me -- About 4:08
3: Charlies Daniels Band -- The Devil Went Down To Georgia -- 3:37 ( Original) (Around 7 minutes in game)
RB:?
needs a song that can match all these

[BigT0ke]

Another Brick in the wall parts 1-3 By of course Pink Floyd This song has it all and wouold be an awesome addition to RB, bass has some slow spots but vocal's and guitar both have a serious challenge, while drums would be a blast to play. Thought freebird was long try 19 min for all 3 of these parts.